Morning Reads for Tuesday, December 27

Good morning! Tonight is the fourth night of Hanukkah, so take a moment to enjoy last year’s Tiny Desk Concert featuring Sharon Jones and the Dap-Kings performing “8 Days (of Hanukkah).” It’s a spectacular song, and while we lost Sharon Jones earlier this year (enough, 2016!), her joy is transformative – and may be the kick in the pants you need to ease yourself into the week.

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Noway2016
Noway2016

Did y’all know that Obama would have won against Trump if he had run? Yep, according to the Narcissist in Chief, that’s exactly what would have happened! Woulda, Coulda, Shouda…Truly, truly sad…
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4066510/Obama-says-beaten-Trump-allowed-run-weigh-important-issues-ex-president-instead-staying-sidelines.htm

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Narcissist? Sounds like the pot is calling the kettle a Kenyan-born socialist with a phony birth certificate.

Obama’s current favorable rating is 55%. Trump is around 44%.

Noway2016
Noway2016

You’re more incoherent than normal, Drew. Obama’s musing about a third term is hypothetical pablum. This much is certain: if Hillary hadn’t been trying to shield her activities by using her own private server, she WOULD be the president-elect right now. Gar-en-teed…

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

So you’re saying a Democrat without ethical baggage would have won “gar-en-teed” but you think Obama, a Democrat without ethical baggage would have lost?

Never mind the fact that Obama’s ’08 and ’12 campaigns showed a greater ability to articulate a message to working class whites in the Rust Belt and an ability to turnout young people and people of color at higher rates than Clinton.

Noway2016
Noway2016

I offered no opinion as to whether Obama would have won. He couldn’t run. That topic is over. It’s an entertaining what-if, nothing more. Like would a top form Jack Nicklaus have beaten a top form Tiger? A top form Jimmy Connors versus Roger Federer? Zzzzzzz….
But of the Dems running who had any semblance of name ID, an honest Hillary would have beaten any of the 17 Repubs badly, including Trump.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

I still think Uncle Joe should have loaded up his Trans Am and taken his message to the working class.

For the record, prime Tiger and prime Federer easy.

Noway2016
Noway2016

You know, I’ll give you some credit on that one. I’d have loved seeing him take on Hillary! That would have been real sport…
I swear, next to Al Gore, back when he didn’t win TN in 2000, Biden has to be the most depressed man in America right now. Now THAT one is a real Woulda, Coulda, Shoulda…

Noway2016
Noway2016

Hmmmm….Nicklaus and Tiger with same equipment – a push. Same with Connors/Fed. Remember Connors played with that tiny T-2000, (which I currently have in my car’s back seat. Yes, I occasionally bring it out to play with…Never served harder with any other racket…) that had a sweet spot the size of a silver dollar. Again, would have had a big bucket of popcorn to watch both of those matches…

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

It’s not just equipment, athletes today are stronger, faster, and better conditioned than their predecessors. Look at swimming and track, even the non-PED enhanced performances are better than the times/marks put up in the 80s and 90s

bethebalance
bethebalance

occasionally think abt how records continue to be broken. one could argue evolution of body. but at this point, i think maybe much is evolution of the game. for non-equipment issues, the thought is that those whose bodily physics are most beneficial to the game are more likely to enter and compete. so, track athletes, and swimmers too become on average taller, and thus more likely to break records. even tennis favors height to a sig degree. matter of fact, most games favor height, so i can see taller and taller athletes everywhere. football/rugby and wrestling/fighting may have exceptions, but… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

For Tiger, I’m assuming we’re making them play at Augusta or any of the others that were “Tiger-proofed.” That means Nicklaus is playing on a longer, tighter course than he ever saw during his prime. Even with upgraded equipment, the game is different than his era.

For Federer, in addition to his athletic advantages over Connors, Fed’s dominance came from the fact he was so fundamentally sound and was a brilliant technician. I don’t think there’s an element in which Connors has the “edge.”

Noway2016
Noway2016

In this hypothetical, Fed would have no athletic advantage over Connors. Connors at 21 was fast as a cat and they say no one ever hit the ball harder off of both sides that Jimbo. You’re right that Fed is the most fundamentally sound man to draw a breath and Connors would have a disadvantage with the forehand approach shot, which was a slice that had an annoying tendency to find the top of the tape. But, throw in grit and the his ability to own a crowd and Jungle Jim would be feared, indeed. Remember when he beat the… Read more »

Noway2016
Noway2016

And I’ll take Jack any day over Tiger. He was second in majors like 18 times…

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Re: Your hypo…

If grass: Sampras. If clay: Nadal. Hard court or dice roll for surface: Fed.

If it’s a women’s match I’ll take Serena all day, everyday.

Saltycracker
Saltycracker

Good subject – following kids that play sports all through schools and focus (over focus) on a few of them has their skills developed far beyond 10 or 20 years ago.

The coaches and many parents make them specialize to be selected from “feeder” schools to high school. It has a bright side and a dark side.

The worst for injuries, costs and craziness might be competitive cheer.

ScottNAtlanta
ScottNAtlanta

Bernie would have wiped Trump across the floor like a damp mop…but woulda coulda shoulda doesnt count

Noway2016
Noway2016

Naaaaaa….

xdog
xdog

Here’s a look at the prospects for North Georgia natural gas. Geologists think plenty is there waiting to be found. Environmentalists want changes to the Georgia Oil and Gas Deep Drilling Act of 1975. As usual the market determines activity.

gcp
gcp

61 shootings, 11 dead over the weekend in Chicago. Locally, murders are up from 2015 in Atlanta and Dekalb.

Trump is only lacking VA pick, Agriculture and SCOTUS. All selections (possible exception is the Treasury guy) will eventually be confirmed with varying degrees of difficulty.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Ted Cruz gets the SCOTUS slot…

gcp
gcp

Senator Mike Lee from Utah

Noway2016
Noway2016

You know, that’s just fine, too!!!! Current gov appoints himself or other Repub. No fuss, no muss…

Saltycracker
Saltycracker

Ag- hope he picks a tariff person over a subsidy person. And we replace food cards with real meals.

ScottNAtlanta
ScottNAtlanta

Already said he doesnt want it

Noway2016
Noway2016

Trust me, if Trump offered it (to Lee or Cruz…), he’d foam like a Pavlovian dog.

ScottNAtlanta
ScottNAtlanta

God Forbid

Saltycracker
Saltycracker

Doggone it, Iran is stealing Trump’s “the art of the deal” tactic and bragging they got their 80 Boeing airliners at half price.

Love it that Trump is going into the world bazaar and not wanting to pay first asking price.

Will Durant
Will Durant

Carrie Fisher dead at age 60.

Noway2016
Noway2016

All right, all these people about my age or a little older are dying! I don’t like that. Cut it out!

Will Durant
Will Durant

Yeah, one of the participants in our dead pool cheated. He had already cheated the reaper a couple of times with the big C but didn’t wake up a couple of weeks ago. Poolees (poolers?) automatically win if they cash in their own chips. His widow had us send the pool money to the American Cancer Society. A great guy that was so honest he couldn’t play poker worth a damn. 2016 has seen several of my friends and family leave us. I’m hoping to do my share of strutting and fretting in 2017.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Ok, Drew gotta start a new thread. We wore that last one out:
Clay: Nadal
Grass: Borg (Five straight, retired at 26) I know, I know Fed and Sampras both won 7…
Hard: Connors (Sampras also won 5 US Opens as did Fed)

But for my life, in their prime, no nerves with all stars lined up: Steffi Graf

bethebalance
bethebalance

this story was out a week ago, but i didn’t want to ruin Christmas by injecting the power of Coca-Cola’s advertising. but here in the A, some probly proud of it.
http://www.npr.org/2016/12/20/506215632/how-red-and-green-became-the-colors-of-christmas

Noway2016
Noway2016

Could somebody pull-eezzzeeee get this 800 Pound Gorilla off the national couch!!!
http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/the-administration/311883-pardon-the-interruption-clinton-allegation-may-force

Will Durant
Will Durant

I would like for any Supreme Court Justice to have at least some experience on a bench somewhere. Even Taft had put in some time as a judge prior to Harding naming him for the court. Generally only the most difficult cases make it to the Supremes and I for one would appreciate a justice selected for his previous written interpretations of the Constitution, not a political hack. No matter how some have ridiculed the concept lately the Constitution is a living document as it has to be. For example there is no way Madison, et al. could have foretold… Read more »

gcp
gcp

Rehnquist, White, Powell, Warren had no previous judicial experience prior to SCOTUS. For repub appointees (in recent history) a judicial record does not necessarily predict or show how one wii vote on high profile SCOTUS cases. O’Connor, Kennedy, Souter, Roberts and Stevens did not vote party line on several cases. If you want a “political hack” check with the dem appointed justices as they always vote party line on big issues.

gcp
gcp

Should be “will” not “wii”

Will Durant
Will Durant

Ideally a justice votes his or her interpretation of the Constitution and/or what is best for the country regardless of the party line. And unicorns fart rainbows, etc. Warren was a former conservative Governor from California but tell that to the conservatives in the sixties who wanted to impeach him for his “liberal” decisions striking down separate-but-equal schools, etc. Not that it matters what I want but what the nation should want is a track record. We also don’t need one without a track record who could possibly be on the court voting who knows how until 2055 or so.

David C
David C

That’s not really true though. Read down criminal procedure cases on the years, and you’ll often find Breyer joining up with Rehnquist and company and Scalia siding with Ginsburg–the latter being much more skeptical of the cops entering your house or checking your car without a warrant than the former. And I don’t think you’ll see any more Souters: since him there hasn’t been a GOPer who joined the ‘liberal’ block, even if Roberts wasn’t going to strike down Obamacare and overturn decades of Commerce Clause or Statutory Interpretation precedent willie-nillie (just hamstring it with a silly interpretation of the… Read more »

gcp
gcp

Criminal procedure is not a big issue to the public. I was referring to gay marriage, abortion, Obamacare, affirmative action… It’s the repub that crosses over not the dem.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

People’s opinions and beliefs are becoming more liberal over time. For example, look at the percentage of younger Americans who approve of, or have no objection to, gay marriage. This has been a trend for a while now and SCOTUS is merely reflecting those changing opinions among society (and the changing opinions of the justices themselves). For example: Lawrence v. Texas a 2003 case where the Supreme Court struck down Texas’ sodomy law. That was a 6-3 decision. In 1986, the Supreme Court voted 5-4 to uphold Georgia’s sodomy law in Bowers v. Hardwick. The Lawrence Court was actually more… Read more »

gcp
gcp

Yes, once again in Lawrence, repub justices were swing votes, not the two dem justices.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Only because society became more tolerant of homosexuality. If societal norms shifted the other way it would be Democrats swinging to the right.

gcp
gcp

Societal change should be expressed legislatively (with a few exceptions) not judicially.

Will Durant
Will Durant

I know the activist court thing is still a big rallying cry, especially from the far right. However without the judiciary we get little protection for minority and/or individual rights. A representative legislature is going to necessarily follow the will of the majority most of the time if they want to be reelected. To paraphrase Larry Flynt, we can’t have 5 wolves and 1 sheep voting on what’s for supper. In vitro fertilization among other societal issues changed the map on gay marriage. How many decades would it have taken for all of the states to accept gay marriage legally… Read more »