The Minority Majority sues Gwinnett

The Atlanta Journal Constitution’s Dave Wickert reports that:

Illegal immigration advocate Jerry Gonzalez commented:

The impact on the upcoming November and future elections is unknown at this time but based on the settlement in a voting rights lawsuit in Fayette County, this story is likely to play out for a long period.

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SouthernMissy
SouthernMissy

It’s impressive how quickly a connection was created between affording minorities equal access to ballot and illegal immigration. Of all the areas Jerry Gonzalez is involved in, you chose to bring up his work related to undocumented immigrants. Fear monger much?

Teri
Teri

There are many ways to posit Gonzalez’s work, but “illegal immigration advocate” is maybe not the one I’d go with.

drjay
drjay

i totes get the impetus for a lawsuit like this, but why eliminate the county wide chair position?

George Chidi
George Chidi

The presumption is that the chair would be chosen by racially-concentrated votes, and that it creates an unrepresentative extra vote on the commission. That’s probably not going to play well in court, but it’s a chip on the table. The problem with the commission districts as they stand is really, really subtle. District 2 — Lynette Howard’s seat — is probably going to vote majority Democrat … this year. But it’s only up for election in gubernatorial election years, when nonwhite voter turnout falls disproportionately. Gwinnett is going to argue that black and Latino voters have a shot at electing… Read more »

atler
atler

Let’s try this. A. Gwinnett County Schools are majority-minority. B. Gwinnett County Schools are among the best run in the state. C. Add A+B together and minority children attending Gwinnett County Schools disproportionately benefit from the current governance/administrative structure. D. Add A+B+C and you ask: if it isn’t broke why fix it? DeKalb County used to have the best public school system in the state. Clayton County used to be above average. The leadership changed and one county lost accreditation and another nearly did. Now it is very easy to claim that it is a mere matter of demographic change… Read more »

SouthernMissy
SouthernMissy

George, the demographics in Gwinnett County started to rapidly change in the 1990s. In 1990, some of the census tracts in Radloff’s district were only 5-10 Black, while by 2010 there were 40-90% black. Gwinnett’s delegation at the General Assembly introduced the new lines in 2011 (I believe), clearly splitting Radloff’s increasingly minority district. It will be interesting to watch if these groups can prove intent, but numbers certainly don’t look good for Gwinnett.

George Chidi
George Chidi

Here’s a counter-argument to that. The school system exists, today, because of a broad commitment to an excellent education defining Gwinnett. It’s about the only thing that defines Gwinnett, actually. It is the fundamental social compact there. I’m incredibly proud to live in a state that can produce schools like Gwinnett’s, and I want DeKalb to return to glory like Gwinnett enjoys today. But here’s the thing: can an all-white school board be expected to continue this commitment to excellence, if most of the children in school are nonwhite? I would say this current school board would: I know the… Read more »

atler
atler

@George: “But here’s the thing: can an all-white school board be expected to continue this commitment to excellence, if most of the children in school are nonwhite?” My answer is yes. What is the basis that you have for believing otherwise in the context of a modern, very diverse, mostly affluent urban area 50 years removed from Jim Crow? I believe that nonwhites will be elected to the school board in a few years without the need of a lawsuit, just as they were in neighboring Cobb County. Especially if more than a few are willing to run as Republicans… Read more »

Benevolus
Benevolus

“the economic issues in Clayton County were not due to white flight but rather occurred after the dot.com bust and after 9/11 hammered the airlines. Most of the jobs that went away around that time never came back.”

Those aren’t contradictory statements, I don’t think. It can be both. Jobs leave, white airline employees leave, minorities move in to the now cheaper properties. Add to the mix that Atlanta demolished all it’s public housing and Clayton apparently is where there were voucher-ready residences and public transportation.

Jean
Jean

One thing about the school board is that the incumbents have been there a long time – the most recent person started in 2005, the most recent before that in 1997 and the person who is in that “packed” district has held that position since 1973. (There is no Democrat running in that district.)

Is this lawsuit the reason that Democrat Derek Johnson dropped out of the race for commissioner district 1?

Jon Richards
Jon Richards

In the most recent election, Louise Radloff ran for her school board seat as a Democrat. So technically, there are four Republicans and one Democrat on the school board.

bethebalance
bethebalance

I still don’t know why districts aren’t created as a matter of course by an impartial software program crunching data to a formula which allows minority blocs fair access to representation. is it so hard to tell when you’re stretching the numbers too thin, or packing too tight? mortal legislators should not be charged with manipulating their destinies.

George Chidi
George Chidi

Oh. Districts should be impartial, in a perfect world of disinterested political actors …

In truth, redistricting is one of the most nakedly and purely political acts in government. The only reason we’re having this discussion is because it’s not legal to screw people based on their race. It is perfectly legal to screw anyone when drawing district lines for any other reason.

Is it fair? Is it moral? It it good for democracy?

You are aware you’re reading about American politics, right?

Enjoy the Silence
Enjoy the Silence

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