Speaker Ralston: No Changes To “Campus Carry” Bill

Speaker Ralston said in an interview with WABE the House will not make any changes to the “Campus Carry” bill passed out of the General Assembly on March 11th. Governor Deal issued a statement soon after the bill’s passage signaling he wants lawmakers to exempt on-campus child care centers and to address his concerns about high school students enrolled in college courses on campuses that permit firearms.

Whispers of potential action by the General Assembly have swirled around since Governor Deal’s statement. Speaker Ralston said in the interview:

If you start trying to pick at the threads of some of these things, sometimes you can end up gutting the entire intent of the law, and I’m not going to ask this House of Representatives to do that

Despite the Speaker’s unwillingness to tweak the bill, Governor Deal has not indicated whether or not he will veto the legislation.

Note: You can hear the interview with WABE’s Denis O’Hayer tomorrow morning on WABE.

Note: We originally reported that Johnny Kauffman did the interview with the Speaker. We regret the error and blame others.

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elfiii
elfiii
4 years ago

Nor should there be any changes. The closer we get to “Constitutional Carry” the better off we are.

Benevolus
Benevolus
4 years ago

Can you carry in the Capitol?

Will Durant
Will Durant
4 years ago
Reply to  Will Kremer

Next year? Baby step. Just the legislators initially. Lobbyists receive an exemption on supplying them free ammo.

MikeSilver
MikeSilver
4 years ago
Reply to  Will Durant

There are locations where the government has a compelling interest to be in complete control of weapons. Jails are the best example. If government makes that determination, then it should be serious and effective at implementing that decision. The location must be protected and secured with POST certified screening and armed security through out the building. They do that with the Capitol (they even have fancy black rifles). The Regents are arguing that campuses should be gun free while doing absolutely nothing to make sure its weapons free. Gun Free signs, Board of Regent’s rules, and another law that a… Read more »

Benevolus
Benevolus
4 years ago
Reply to  MikeSilver

If the Capitol is so well protected it seems like the first place we should be able to carry, no?

blakeage80
blakeage80
4 years ago
Reply to  MikeSilver

In that regard, UGAPD has 90-100 sworn officers, so if you are being generous 25-30 officers per shift to patrol a small city with about 35,000 folks in it during the day. I’d guess that’s a much higher ratio than most cities. However, campus is still a pretty soft target for a gun(wo)man. This all reminds me of the time I got into an argument with one of my professors in grad school about this subject. He was upset at the possibility of students carrying guns, but actually calmed down a lot when I said it would mostly be seniors… Read more »

gcp
gcp
4 years ago
Reply to  blakeage80

Campus carry bill prohibits dorm carry. Additionally many students don’t live on campus thus they walk to and from parking areas, public transit and in some cases students walk from off- campus residences to on-campus classes. Campus visitors, staff and individuals passing through a campus would also be able to carry if licensed.

elfiii
elfiii
4 years ago

No, but you should be able to.

blakeage80
blakeage80
4 years ago

I’m still a little miffed about the change to churches having to opt to allow carry as opposed to it being OK by default. I’m sure he’ll sign it though. Above all the noise, he knows the right thing to do. That whole campus daycare thing is a flimsy excuse.

gcp
gcp
4 years ago

I guess the two shooters on the Ga. State Campus last night were unaware that campus carry is still illegal but of course, criminals don’t adhere to the law.

bethebalance
bethebalance
4 years ago
Reply to  gcp

i think urban campuses like State and Tech have a different set of circumstances, too, because so much of their campuses are public streets.

elfiii
elfiii
4 years ago

@Andrew C. Pope – “It’s a little disingenuous to say that the BoR is “doing absolutely nothing.” After all, universities have police departments that are armed and capable of enforcing the weapons ban.”

There has never been a police department in the history of our country that ever had a chance at being effective at enforcing a weapons ban for the simple reason criminals just don’ care.

Jack Fitz
Jack Fitz
4 years ago

I feel like there is this general feeling w/ the “carry lobby” that if everyone is carrying then everyone will be safe. Am I wrong to think that’s the desired outcome? I’m guessing the money behind the lobby would be on board with that notion.

But by that same regard, should we be assisting every other nation in building nuclear weapons? I mean, if we all have them, then we aren’t likely to use them right?

gcp
gcp
4 years ago
Reply to  Jack Fitz

No, it’s not “everyone” because in order to obtain a carry license in Ga., you undergo a background check. In regards to other countries and nuclear weapons, many of those countries would not pass a “background check.”

Jack Fitz
Jack Fitz
4 years ago
Reply to  Jack Fitz

So if you don’t pass a background check, you can’t get a carry license. But you said a few comments ago that the criminals with weapons on GSU campus probably wouldn’t have passed the background check, and yet, they still had guns. My assertion is that if the criminals have guns, then the lobby would want all “non-criminals” to have guns, a carry license, and free reign to go anywhere. So using binary logic, “everyone” would have guns. Sure N Korea shouldn’t have nukes, but they probably will anyways. Should we encourage S Korea to nuke up too? Would the… Read more »

gcp
gcp
4 years ago
Reply to  Jack Fitz

Those GSU shooters violated the law by possessing guns on-campus, doing a drug dealer and then shooting each other so obviously did not care about the law to begin with.

I am not part of the ” lobby” and I do agree with most current restrictions on possession and carry.

As for S. Korea, I don’t know that tactical nukes are not in S. Korea. Either way, nukes can be delivered anywhere these days with or w/o basing them in a particular country so that question is mostly moot.

MikeSilver
MikeSilver
4 years ago
Reply to  Jack Fitz

The students were also under 21, thus wouldn’t have been eligible for a carry license and were carrying in violation of many state and federal gun control laws. Did Gun Control work? Isn’t this proof that the Chancellor Huckaby and the University System are lying when they say our campuses are free of crime and students should be stripped of their ability to defend themselves? Gun Control will never work because it only regulates the people who follow the law. We should stop criminalizing the law abiding, which is what gun control does and what gun-banners want. Not everyone will… Read more »

elfiii
elfiii
4 years ago

@Jack Fitz I feel like there is this general feeling w/ the “carry lobby” that if everyone is carrying then everyone will be safe.

No, that isn’t the sentiment. The goal for the “carry lobby” is “Constitutional Carry”, just like that liberal hellhole Vermont has – open or concealed carry, 24/7/365, no permit required.

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