Iowa: And So It Begins

As you know, we strive to be a site that specializes in Georgia politics.  That’s different than the politics of Georgians, which opens up all discussions to the national talking points of the day.

That said we’re also a community, and we understand that you fine people still want (for some of you need) to talk Presidential politics.  From time to time we’ll open up a thread or two to let y’all relieve this pressure.  We are, after all, only a month away from Georgia’s Presidential Preference Primary.  I would ask that y’all remember the goal is to be civil when asserting that your candidate was personally chosen by God and whomever you are arguing with is obviously damned to hell for eternity for asserting otherwise.  Or better yet, please try articulating and persuading using logic and reason rather than bolding asserting divine superiority.

With that said, here’s an open thread to discuss Iowa and all things Presidential Primary.  All parties/candidates fair game.

I’ll start with a mostly non-prediction:  I have no idea what’s going on in Iowa.  My gut (and the general consensus of anecdotal data points from my friends and contacts in the business) tell me that Iowa was supposed to be a battle between Trump and Cruz, and Cruz was supposed to win.  Neither has finished strong.  My gut tells me that Cruz has stumbled more and may have given Trump the opening he needs in a state where some ground game establishment is needed.  The upside beneficiary should be Rubio, but I still would be surprised if he finishes higher than third.  But a closer third than I would have expected a week ago.

Iowa and New Hampshire should begin the graceful exit stage for many of the candidates.  Santorum and Huckabee should exit the race by morning.  “Should”.  I’ll go one step farther.  If Jeb isn’t in double digits, he should leave before New Hampshire.  We’ll see how he performs, but I’ll probably expand on that tomorrow.  Not sure what Rand does, but he has a Kentucky race he needs to soon focus on.  Kasich and Christie are banking on NH, so they’ll be with us this week regardless.

Democrats?  I have no idea.  The party that has usually captured the imagination of the country’s youth has played out like two old goats fighting over a turnip.  And then there’s a third guy standing around watching for some reason but no one knows why.  And seeing how bad this field is, it pains me the GOP has squandered a summer that should have been used to articulate a positive message for the future instead of having a significant portion of our party demand we export all the brown people and only allow others in the country if we approve of their God.

That’s my overview as we end the pre-game show and begin putting points on the scoreboard.  I’ll be back in an hour or so and mix it up in the comments section for a little while.

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Lawton Sack
Lawton Sack

My farthing:

1. Cruz
2. Trump
3. Rubio

A month away from the Georgia/SEC primary, and I still have no idea who I am going to vote for. I know who I am not voting for, though.

chefdavid
chefdavid

So if Bush falls out does his support go to Rubio?

Bart
Bart

Agree with Lawton, month out, no idea who is my second choice now that it has become clear Carly is all but done. Rubio probably in the lead, but I still think he is a better choice for VP. Cruz, my Trump as in no freakin way will I vote for that whiney canuck. As for Trump, I began re-reading Art of the Deal this weekend. One thing jumps out right away, he hasn’t changed in personality since the book was written. As he says early on in the book, ‘If they’re shooting, I’ll keep shoveling” regarding media. He’s got… Read more »

Bart
Bart

Email from TPP endorsing Ted Cruz, “Our mission now is to harness all the might and fury of the Tea Party movement to build a massive grassroots operation for Senator Cruz. The big-government establishment cronies in Washington are gunning for him. They will do anything to stop Ted Cruz and the peaceful political rebellion raging across the country. They are spending millions to tear Ted Cruz apart in the press, on the airwaves, and in the key primary states. They will fight him all the way to the convention. They will lie, cheat, and steal in order to hold onto… Read more »

Will Durant
Will Durant

So it’s a variation on the ol’ tv evangelist telling you to send your money to the Lord but giving you their address. I will just go ahead and say it. Anyone sending money to the Tea Party Patriots at this point is a fool and deserves to be parted from their money.

Bart
Bart

Agreed Will and it’s a damn shame.

edatlanta
edatlanta

No matter who wins, America will lose.

Bernie in a squeaker, nowhere else will he win.

You people are a mystery to me.

Chet Martin
Chet Martin

You don’t think Bernie wins New Hampshire?

Stefan
Stefan

My prediction on tv, or on radio anyway, was Clinton +6. It’s looking like Clinton +3 at the moment. The weird thing about caucuses is that no matter how many people show up at a site, the number of delegates it has to award is already decided (by population of precinct).

Chet Martin
Chet Martin

It’s disappointing when polls turn out to be accurate. Takes the fun out of the drinking game.

Bart
Bart

Got to say, MSNBC blows away FOXNEWS on election coverage.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Congrats to Ted Cruz. May he find the same success the last two Iowa winners did.

So my GOP establishment friends, is it Marco or bust? Or does he have to post a top 3 finish in NH before the establishment starts throwing all their chips on him?

Bart
Bart

O’Malley and Huckabee accept reality.

Santorum, Fiorina, Bush, Christie, Paul, Carson and Kasich should do the same.

auh2o
auh2o

Rubio is this cycle’s “Comeback Kid.” Trump failed miserably. Bluster is only bluster. My bet is, in the end, Rubio takes 2nd. This is now a whole new ballgame.

Bart
Bart

All the hubbub for months about Iowa and we basically end up with offsetting penalties. What a waste, especially for Bush and the millions he blew attacking Rubio.

Dems will split delegates equally, GOPers: Cruz – 6, Trump 5, Rubio 5. All that for this?

auh2o
auh2o

Biden has to be contemplating ending it all right now. A doddering old Socialist fool who had no business getting anywhere near Hillary, ties her? And now he will smash her even more in NH. Good Lord!! Hillary is the biggest loser tonight! What a pathetic, pathetic showing by her. Biden could have come in and won here…

Saltycracker
Saltycracker

Let’s hope none of the GOP establishment gets hurt jumping on the Rubio train. It might be their first good decision. Still Like Fiorna for his attack VP.