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Noway2016
Noway2016

Just got the Jiffy Pop on the stove for tonight’s speech by The Great Man!! The issues? Drugs, Murders, Human Trafficking. He has no greater duty and responsibility than to protect His Fellow Americans…

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

No doubt a vainglorious, clownish leader in need of feeding his outsized and easily-bruised ego will own the libs..

Noway2016
Noway2016

He’ll do his best to protect The American People, David. Even Libs!

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

You’ve got that backwards. The American people need protection from Trump.

bethebalance
bethebalance

We should all be wary of any declaration of emergency for a non-emergency. Use of emergency powers are ripe areas for abuse, and have been used to justify things like martial law, restrictions on free movement of citizens, etc. It was Palpatine’s stepping stone from Senator to Emperor. So, may we not stray from the rule of law. But there is comfort if it goes to the Courts to sort out. It may also present a face-saving way to end the shutdown impasse— take the Wall out of the equation– maybe essentially by kicking it to the Courts– and you… Read more »

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Noway, are you going to watch the riveting reply from Pelosi and Schumer? Maybe the liberals can ban this from TV! You know the networks probably wont show Trump!! I hope they show the videos of these lying clowns saying the EXACT thing Trump is saying today about immigration just a short time ago. Trump is the first president in 35 years with the stones to do something about it. Like confronting China and getting tax reform done too. Just cleaning up messes he inherited. Instead of some BS reply, just play continuous loops with Schumer, Pelosi Obama and both… Read more »

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

Count me among those supporting investigation into elements of the Jones/Moore election campaign.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Can’t believe they’re letting Capt. Quaalude stay up past his bedtime.

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

Either likely lots of executive time this morning and afternoon, or two haridos in one day.

Mr1raggedhole
Mr1raggedhole

Wow, you guys really should take this act on the road. Maybe you could open for that surgery without anesthesia act because your attempts at humor on this site are only slightly less painful.

Enjoy the Silence
Enjoy the Silence
Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

Thanks for that tidbit. The AJC mentioned computer issues, but provided no details.

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

Will Trump tonight repeat the lie that some of the Presidents that preceded him told him they should have built a wall? Won’t matter, it’s already on video.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Clintons and Obama Pelosi and Schumer have all said the same damn thing Dave…What is your point?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bKTv57OEJE

bethebalance
bethebalance

Many of us have been saying there is lots of bipartisan agreement on border security, so it’s good to see that’s finally sinking in, and getting a little air time. Hopefully, this will stop the ridiculous position that Dems want open borders. But my guess is that it’s the false “open borders” position that continues to get demonized on the air. But there is also still plenty of differences as well, notably on the policy surrounding any physical barriers, and certainly on the issue of whether or not a lack of barrier rises to a national “emergency” under the law.… Read more »

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

If you are watching Pelosi and Schumer after the President’s speech, do any of you trust those two to guard anything much less the security of our country? Trumps lists the hundreds of thousands of crimes, human trafficking, murders, 90% of our heroin epidemic comes from Mexico and more will die over the next year than did in the Vietnam War. Those 2 argue that there is no problem at all. Trump is making this all up. Who do you believe? 35 years of kicking the can down the road. Those 2 have been there for ages…doing nothing. They cause… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Trust them more than the guy who sniffs like a recovering cocaine addict.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Shrivler, are you losing your mind? …WTF does what you posted have to with anything much less the price of onions in Denmark? Maybe you had an extra snort or snivel.

bethebalance
bethebalance

DTM, when I read your posts, I feel like that I’m watching senility set in before my eyes.
Maybe re-read your own post in order to understand the reply.

Benevolus
Benevolus

Manafort passed polling data to a Russian? WTF?
I think there’s a word for that…. col- something?

Benevolus
Benevolus

Let’s just recap for today:
– Manafort colludes with Russia by giving them polling data.
– SC compels that mystery foreign company to abide by Mueller’s subpoena.
– Trump Tower meeting Russian accused of money laundering.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Collusion Benev? Did you remember that Hillary, the DNC, FBI, and intelligence agencies all colluded together to destroy Trump? We know this happened. The Clinton Campaign and the DNC paid Russian spies (denied it for a year by the way) for the fake unverified Dossier used by the FBI to lie to a FISA Court which then allowed the FBI to entrap low level Trump supporters and use that as an excuse to spy on the opposition party in an attempt to destroy the republican nominee and determine outcome of a US presidential election. All the while exonerating the democratic… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Awwww that’s cute. You still don’t know how FISC works.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Oh, but you don’t disagree with anything in that summary I see!

Why don’t you unlighted us about FISA little buddy!?

Are you saying you can just lie to any of those judges and get the okay 98% of the time anyway so its just a sham? Is that right?

Better yet, are you saying those lying FBI agents, some 25 which have been fired by the way, DIDNT LIE TO THE FISA COURT?! That might news for all of us.

Hmmmmm….let us know your geniusness!

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

I already have. Multiple times. I even used my DOJ background to explain some of the redaction codes that were cited in the published FISA applications.

For the millionth time, please stop blaming me for what is clearly the result of some type of dementia.

Not commenting on the rest of your senile ranting does not mean I agree with it. I’m just having a light chuckle at you getting a stick up your butt about something you clearly know nothing about.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Bottom line, Sniv: Do you think the
FISA court judges were lied to or misled in any way whatsoever?

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

No. You and DTM continue to operate on the assumption that the “Steele dossier” was the only piece of information presented to the FISC. That is incorrect. It’s so incorrect that Devin Nunes & Co. have ditched it as a talking point. In fact, they’ve moved on from attacking the FISA process altogether because they’ve been so thoroughly clowned by actual natsec experts. The released FISA applications have made clear that the “Steele dossier” was not the only evidence presented to the FISC. Furthermore, it’s been readily established that the FISC was made aware that the dossier originated as “opposition… Read more »

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

“Only”…. of course it was not the only evidence….Good try!! But they lied to the courts about that damn fake-ass BS didn’t they?! And it was a “significant” part of the evidence…. Certainly you don’t deny that do you? Do you deny who paid for it? Do you deny who paid for it denied it for a year? Why? Do you deny the FBI hated Trump and did everything they could to get rid of him? Do you deny they had an “insurance policy” to keep him from being elected? Do you deny Rosenstein and many others agreed Comey should… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

But they lied to the courts about that damn fake-ass BS didn’t they?! And it was a “significant” part of the evidence…. Certainly you don’t deny that do you? No, they didn’t. We’ve been over this. The nature of the “Steele dossier” was fully disclosed to FISC. The government presented the portions of the dossier they had been able to corroborate (a lot of it has been corroborated, by the way) and the Court made a determination on whether or not the evidence presented – all of the evidence, not just the Steele dossier – presented probable cause. FISC judges… Read more »

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

You whiffed again!

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Whatever you say, Mark. Hope that Razadyne starts working.

Will Durant
Will Durant

Just did a little math and this is how the current state of our national politics adds up. We have shut a portion of our government down to this point costing the government itself about half of what Trump wants for his fence (and yes, at this point it is a glorified fence). Our overall economy is suffering even more, to the tune of $6.5 billion per week. Derived in late 2017 Standard & Poor’s came up with the estimate in a report titled, “With a U.S. Government Shutdown, There Will Be Blood.” https://www.spglobal.com/en/research-insights/articles/With-A-US-Government-Shutdown-There-Will-Be-Blood All for the sake of politics,… Read more »

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

More math….illegal immigration costs between $100 and 200 billion depending who you ask. One party is trying to improve the situation to a tune of $5 billion. Seems like a homerun return on investment in money and lives saved. How many lives will continue to be ruined by DOING NOTHING FOR GOD”S SAKE? Guess what group of goobers cant do math and want nothing done? Isnt that about right Will? Who is on the side of trying to fix the damn thing for the first time in 35 years. The first president brave enough to take it on and not… Read more »

Will Durant
Will Durant

Since our resident pigeon has already crapped the board, I’m going to play, though I’m fully aware there is no “winning” an argument with you. This is for the benefit of those who have the ability to think on their own. Please provide the proof that spending $5.7 billion just fencing 215 more miles of Mexican border will save us that $100-200 that our Minister of Propaganda Hannity is pulling out his ass. I think the budget agreed to before Limbaugh and Coulter told Trump he was copping out on was $1.7 billion for actual usable border security, not a… Read more »

Benevolus
Benevolus

We should get Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez to advocate for The Wall and Trumpistas would drop it like a tiki-torch gone wild.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

WWWWWWiiiillllbbbbuuur….check your sources on illegal immigration costs. Not Hannity okay? Now what you are arguing for is setting on your ass doing nothing! Just like the liberals AND conservatives have done for 35 years.

Now why is YOUR doing nothing the logical solution?!

It aint! Or tell me why not doing jack sh-t is a good thing!!

bethebalance
bethebalance

Pls post your source(s).

Will Durant
Will Durant

$1.7 billion is hardly doing nothing. Quit building strawmen. Where did I state that I want to set on my ass doing nothing? I just don’t want to pay for a stupid symbolic gesture. No one is proposing that nothing be done. This is not the first president to do something about the border in 35 years. Quit being ridiculous if you don’t want to be taken as such. Building a portion of a physical barrier just because a loose cannon got off script during his campaign with a ludicrous promise that we should build a wall across the Mexican… Read more »

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

I totally support the liberals and their demand to protect our borders. I support giving them everything they asked for. What reasonable politicians they are. I appreciate their hard work. How about you all?

Obama, Hillary and Schumer describing the horror story at the border and BEGGING for more funding….Please listen to them.

https://www.facebook.com/SameVidOfLibs/videos/1195820727243510/_

Are they lying then or now? What changed? Did the republicans work with the liberals here? Of course.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

I’ll support the wall the moment Mr. Art of the Deal shows me the check from Mexico. That’s what was promised. Not my fault Trump isn’t the negotiator he claims he is.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Well at least you agree there is a problem unlike your liberal buddies.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

There’s a “problem” it’s just not the one Cheeto Mussolini thinks it is. Drug trafficking largely occurs at ports of entry. Cartels aren’t lugging bags of Fentanyl through the desert. Building a wall won’t do anything to alter the ways in which smugglers bring drugs into the United States. CBP could use more resources to help stop the movement of drugs, counterfeit goods, etc. into this country… a wall won’t do that. A wall isn’t going to stop people from coming here illegally, either. Half of the unauthorized immigrants in this country are visa overstays. According to a 2017 study… Read more »

Ellynn
Ellynn

10% late fee on $16.5 million… and a $100 reconnection fee for each meter…

https://dcist.com/story/19/01/08/can-d-c-shut-off-the-white-houses-water-for-unpaid-bills/

Benevolus
Benevolus

Just saw a great twitter thread about why the Russian interference might have been so effective:
– They had hacked into the DNC database, and they had Manafort giving the internal GOP polling data. So they had both sides of the targeting battle. They would have known exactly what to say and where to say it, and who to say it to.
What campaign consultant wouldn’t want it’s opponent’s marketing plans? And a massive network of professional (paid by others) worker-bees to leverage that information?

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Benev…. votes. Did the Russians convince anyone that Hillary was a crook, unlikeable, ran a lousy campaign, was lazy, didn’t go to state she thought she had in the bag and on and on ? We all knew that. Even the democrats. Did the Russians place one vote? Oops… Do you think a dishonest,lying press doing all they could to ruin Trump and a dishonest FBI and Washington swamp might have had a bigger impact than a few Russian Facebook ads? Aren’t the same guys still doing the same thing today? Did you see Pelosi and Schumer looking like 2… Read more »

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

I guess you’re among those that are uninterested in an investigation of the Jones/Moore election campaign.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Mark, calm down.

Ellynn
Ellynn
Ellynn
Ellynn
Ellynn
Ellynn

In Iowa primary election news… some one gets a primary challenger!
http://kiwaradio.com/local-news/hull-state-senator-to-run-against-congressman-king-in-2020/

Noway2016
Noway2016

Question for the BABB Boys: Why do our overseas embassies have fences/walls? Why does the Vatican? Why does every US military base? Why does the White House? Why does the Naval Observatory and US Capitol?

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Noway, don’t ask a question they don’t want the answer to. Your question must be racist or hateful.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

I know that flights from Moscow to DC are expensive, but have you ever been to the Capitol? There isn’t a wall or a fence. The building is open to the public. House and Senate office buildings are open to the public. You can eat lunch in their cafeterias.

The Vatican is also open to the public and you can waltz right past the “wall” and into St. Peter’s Square without a passport, visa, or any other documentation. That’s just a sh*tty analogy, bro.

Ellynn
Ellynn

Ft Steward does not have a full fence around it. Some areas are fully fenced (not walled) off but you can get to a lot of places with out crossing a fence line. It has areas that are completely fenced, but not the whole property. As long as HWY 119 is not closed off for maneuvers, tank crossing or shelling you can drive right through the base. It’s damn hard to get into the restricted areas if they don’t want you there. Almost every road has plate readers. and rumor is the whole area is covered by thermal imaging devices.… Read more »

Benevolus
Benevolus

Even if we agree that a wall in some sense might be necessary, is there a plan for it? Where would it go? Why there? Do we own the property? Did an agency request this? Environmental analysis? Has a budget been done? A request for a proposal? Cost analysis? Or is this a “just throw some money at it” gig? Normally, if an agency needs something, they do a proposal and ask for the money. Then we can actually debate the merits of the proposal and requested funding. But it seems in this case, it’s just the words “The Wall”,… Read more »

Ellynn
Ellynn

Any RFP to a contractor or designer needs to have a written scope through whatever funding stream has congressional oversight. It needs to have Corp of Engineer or GSA approved surveys, estimates and public notification to adjacent land owners. No such animals exist on boarder wall construction. NONE. Not even ‘study’ contracts for environmental and soil tests. Sure a contactor prototypes exists (sort of a RFQ), but where are the itemed detailed lists of where, when, and the legal hows? Example; it took almost 10 years of planning, surveying and land evaluation of the area for the Savannah Harbor Expansion… Read more »

Ellynn
Ellynn