Morning Reads for Monday, December 10, 2018

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Will Durant
Will Durant

Snooze through this one Noway. From yet another liberal rag, National Review. It makes the point that the media has been focusing on the participation in felonious campaign fund pay offs of alleged sex partners there are portents looming in there that obstruction may be looming large. And obstruction has precedence in our two most recent impeachments: The Special Counsel’s Cohen Sentencing Brief Is Ominous for Trump …I want to focus on a different document: the special counsel’s sentencing memo outlining Cohen’s cooperation with the Special Counsel’s Office. This document may well outline the roadmap for an impeachment count against… Read more »

Noway2016
Noway2016

I’m with DTM on this one. So, Trump paid off a couple of ‘hos. Big whoop! Trust me when I tell you, he ain’t goin’ to jail over that! LOL! Don’t stop bleve-in’ Will!

Will Durant
Will Durant

And your inability to read and/or willful ignorance continues.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Hey, Will…I seem to have to do all y’alls work for you but here it is…Trump has committed and is guilty of…..Coital Collusion! LMAOOOOO!!

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

Didn’t you think that merited impeachment and jail time when Bill Clinton did it?

Noway2016
Noway2016

“Whataboutism, whatboutism!!!!!” Keep on sputtering, Dave!!! LMAO!

Will Durant
Will Durant

It’s probably a valid response to your notaboutisms in your attempt to skew the actual point of the article summed up in this quote: “As much as Trump’s defenders may want to minimize “process crimes,” it remains a fact that the last two articles of impeachment drafted against American presidents featured clear evidence of, yes, process crimes. Process crimes are still crimes. It is an enduring feature of political corruption that politicians will lie about things that aren’t illegal but are politically or personally embarrassing — and when they lie under oath or cause others to lie under oath they… Read more »

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

It’s too bad Trump is not a member of Congress and have the government gravy train pay for his affairs like about two hundred members whose names have never been released or prosecuted to the tune of $17 million and counting!

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Man, that sure is a lot of collusion. At least Trump didn’t have to be sued to pay his girlfriends like Clinton. Was Melania out there trashing them? Let’s see why have 25 FBI agents been fired or resassigned? Oh, for doing an honest job?! Hardly. There is your collusion. What a joke.

Will Durant
Will Durant

Obviously both of you don’t possess the ability to read for yourself. Hint: IT ISN’T ABOUT THE WHORES! So to get it on your level:

Vlad like Trump
Trump like Vlad
They play house
Trump wins White House
Win, win, win.

Trump told Mike
Leave Vlad out
Out, out, out
Lie, lie, lie.

Mike told lie
Trump told Mike to lie

Then we have the big word I can’t get around and it isn’t collusion for you of the deliberately obtuse persuasion, it is OBSTRUCTION.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Let’s chill for a second, Will. Just because these women perform in adult films, strip, model naked, etc. that does not make them “whores.” These are all legitimate, legal professions.

If anyone deserves moral condemnation here, it’s the guy cheating on his wife after she just gave birth.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Yeah, Will. Do what your boss tells you to do! You tell him, Sniv!

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

I love the moral outrage from you guys! How many bimbos has Clinton had and how many did that wife of his cover up and why? How many were barely out of high school? No telling about him and the Epstein plane! Listen, if Trump builds the wall, Ginsberg is replaced and we get China to quit cheating which even you libs agree needs to be done but don’t have the gonads to address it, then he can do nothing for 6 more years and I will be ecstatic! He can literally close down Washington, pass nothing, do nothing and… Read more »

Noway2016
Noway2016

Epstein’s Bone Drone?

Will Durant
Will Durant

Even given your free association mentality. What in the wild, wild world of sports does that have to do with the Trump administration’s obstruction of justice via Michael Cohen’s testimony to Congress?

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

It doesn’t have anything to do with it, Will. That’s the point. Noway and DTM are so far in the tank for Trump that they’d probably thank him and shake his hand if they came home to see him raw dogging their wives.

This isn’t about criminal behavior. This isn’t about obstruction of justice. This isn’t about policy. This is 100% about “owning the libs.” Noway is just searching for an excuse to type “AWWW NAWWW” because he’s sad and angry at the person he wound up becoming.

Noway2016
Noway2016

LOL! Is that your best Sigmund Floyd impersonation? LMAO!
Did you notice that I haven’t done an “AN” since before the election? Damn restrained if you ask me!

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Andrew, NoWay and I sit back and laugh at the tightly wound hate filled liberal snowflakes constantly post here that just think life is a sh-t sandwich!

If I were a radical socialist and had your mindset I would be miserable too! Thank God I am just the opposite. I wake up daily thanking the Lord for the multitude of blessings I have and everyone else has if born in this country!

Will Durant
Will Durant

Why do you constantly post here? Your responses are beyond being tangential to the discussion, they aren’t even in the same orbit.

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

There were only at least14 people in the Trump orbit and campaign including Don Jr, and Ivanka and Jared, and hundreds of communications with the Russians You do know the campaign did involve thousands of people and hundreds of thousands of communications? Only 14 people and their communications is even smaller than the Georgia undervote of 100,000 in 4,000,000, and that’s insignificant to the GaGOP. Even the Russian Deputy Foreign Minister said “I don’t say it was all of them, but a whole array of them supported contacts with Russian representatives”. It wasn’t everyone, so course there’s truth in the… Read more »

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Does anyone want to know why we sold 20% of our uranium to the evil Soviets and $140 million shows up in the Clinton Foundation. I want to know who benefitted and why. Seems like some real Russian collusion. Did anyone tinkle on a bed Obama slept in?

Now that is some serious crime! Lets spy on Trump and frame him. 25 FBI employees fired and reassigned for doing a great job right?!

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

“It’s not the [copulation] its the cover-up.”

The main thrust of Will’s cite isn’t that Trump cheated on his wife with a couple of porn stars and Playboy models. Rich dudes paying women for sex is an easy enough concept for most of us to swallow. The bigger issue – and the harder one to overcome – is Trump directing someone to commit a felony on his behalf. That’s an actual crime, which is why this blog’s two proudest cucks are focusing on the porn star aspect and going back to the ol’ Clinton well.

Gregs
Gregs

I’m with Comey, I don’t want Trump impeached. America needs to expressly reject its reflexive decision to elect a blatant white nationalists bomb thrower to the highest elected office in the land. Anything short of this will likely lead to more violence by MAGA cultist; more bombs being mailed, more people being mowed down by cars, more church shootings. I don’t take impeachment lightly. Removing a duly elected president requires a high bar. Yes, it appears he may have broken many laws before he was elected, but I would only support impeachment if it can be shown that he obstructed… Read more »

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

Merry Christmas! Don’t worry, Santa Deal still has state goodies to hand out to good cronies and friends before he leaves office at the end of the year if you haven’t already got yours. Deal on Friday appointed his executive counsel since 2011 to the state Court of Appeals. Sweet!

Noway2016
Noway2016

Update on our Meal at Myrtles: Lot’s of great food and howling about the Libs! Mugs of cider were raised and clinked in honor of Kav and his importance of being on the court. Speculation was rampant on which upcoming case would see both he and Clarence getting their revenge on the Dems. Inquiries were also made about several of our GP posters who are still missing in action. Sides were splitting with laughter over the Libs melting down over Rudolf and Charlie Brown. Over all a better than expected time considering our loss of the House…

Ellynn
Ellynn

Well… It’s not happening with this case.

https://www.npr.org/2018/12/10/675260800/supreme-court-declines-key-planned-parenthood-case

My grandmother had a phrase for your luncheons. Kaffee-Klatsch verrückte alte Narrenmänner. My German and tenses are very rusty – I admit to looking up the spelling of verrückte. -nar was always a favorite of hers when dealing with her brothers and uncles.

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

McConnell told Trump the sentencing bill won’t be given a vote in the Senate. He said there’s insufficient time since the legislation was approved by Grassley’s Judiciary Committee only last February. Actually it won’t be voted on because the legislation doesn’t have the support of two-thirds of Republicans in the Senate. Chuck Grassley being infuriated about it is amusing. When you act as a partisan tool, you’re treated like a partisan tool. Maybe Chuck’ll, he’ll, he’ll…. do something. You know, like Susan Collins did on healthcare. She really showed ‘em. The legislation passed the House 360-59 in June. (That’s like… Read more »

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

Ayers needs a little time off to collect a couple more tens of millions. He’s earned it.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

At least now when he get’s pulled over for another DUI he can name drop Donald Trump.

Will Durant
Will Durant

That being said he was smart enough not to take the job.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Only because he’d took everything he could off of Trump/Pence. I’m sure he’ll find some more campaigns to siphon money from. Dude is a leech.

It does warm the depths of my cold, cruel heart to know that, no matter how much money he makes through dubious campaign consulting fees, I’ll have the one thing that he’s most butthurt about not having: a UGA diploma.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Ok, what’s the UGA angle here? Did he try and not get in? And the campaign angle? Is he doing something other consultants don’t do?

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Less complicated version: Ayers works for a campaign collecting a big paycheck as a “consultant.” The campaigns then buy a bunch of campaign ad time. The campaigns use another Ayers’ company as the media buyer, directing more money to Ayers’ pockets (something that may not always be made clear to the client beforehand). At the same time, Ayers’ is running dark money organizations which take money from other organizations Ayers is “consulting” to run ads (using Ayers’ other company as media buyer again) benefiting the campaign Ayers is “consulting.” Legally, it’s in a gray area (or at least the whole… Read more »

Noway2016
Noway2016

Well, KSU should be proud of one of their alumns has made it to the top of his professional food chain. Right now, I’ve of the opinion he couldn’t care less that he wasn’t a Bulldog.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Ayers…that is not Obama’s buddy Bill Ayers is it?

Noway2016
Noway2016

Damn, DTM! That’s good!!! Lol!

Noway2016
Noway2016

At least he didn’t DUI off a bridge and kill a girl.

Will Durant
Will Durant

Whataboutism redux, plus a 5 point deduction for an ancient one.

Look the guy has a net worth of $50 million at age 36 for being a political consultant in Georgia and Washington. I don’t care which “side” he is on. To quote the comedian Henry Cho “What’s wronnnnng with this picture?”

Noway2016
Noway2016

Nothing! He’s providing a service. Wildly successful if y’alls figures are right.

Will Durant
Will Durant

And here we have a fundamental difference yet again. Not between right and left issues but right and wrong. Super PACs take in billions, mostly from corporations that the Supreme Court has determined are covered under our Bill of Rights. All that filters down so that a glorified bag man can glean a net worth of more than $50 million in about 15 years from that system working for politicians who are ostensibly paid about the same as an associate lawyer in a major law firm. You don’t see a problem with a system like that?

Noway2016
Noway2016

I still don’t. Explain to me more. He has media buying companies, right? Don’t they normally get a14% cut of the buy? Maybe he’s also helping write the ads? He’s a strategist of sorts, too, right? If he didn’t make the buys, another firm would. He dad is Whit, who’s been doing polling since forever. Sounds like he’s just continuing the family trade.

Will Durant
Will Durant

Now you have finally outed yourself. It is no wonder that you excel at fiction.

Noway2016
Noway2016

What does that even mean? I asked a no snark question. If you wanna chance to “skool Noway”, this is it. How has Nick Ayers done anything more evil than any other hugely successful pol guy? Hello, James Carville? Doesn’t/Didn’t he do roughly the same things?

bethebalance
bethebalance

Turning down the Chief o Staff position undoubtedly also a good long-term business decision.

Noway2016
Noway2016

I agree totally. Even giving up a safe House or Senate seat is stupid. Price should have never given his up. He’s be there for life!

Noway2016
Noway2016

I’d like to appeal to Deep Dark to allow Carolina back. Don’t know if she’s been exiled or if she was just a ghost poster of someone else, but her rants were actually hysterically funny!!! Whatta ya say, DD?

TheDeepDark
TheDeepDark

Everyone that was moderated was given explicit instructions on how to be able to comment again. That particular user has not followed those instructions, thus a permaban has been instated.

Benevolus
Benevolus

If those instructions involved some sort of repentant email, I would love to have seen her message!

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

If that’s the measure, how are DTM and Noway still here? I don’t think the former has changed anything about his behavior around here.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Darn Andrew I am so sorry that my posts don’t meet your high expectations….zzzzzzz…..I still see that you whine quite often and want to ban certain posters you don’t agree with which is humorous! I wont use the word Snowflake or Safe Space but sometimes that seems to fit! I have not see you shadow other posters like you used to or comment under different names, so I guess that is an improvement. I wonder if the reason we don’t hear from good ole BJ is that he might be a multiple account of one of our current posters…What do… Read more »

Noway2016
Noway2016

Thanks for the explanation, DD. Too bad for her. She was a fun foil. Maybe yall can forgive the transgressors one day and invite them back…on trial. Heck, Carter pardoned the draft dodgers, so there is historical precedent.

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

More on Christmas presents….

Trump’s Thanksgiving gift to the families of military servicepeople that are repelling the caravan invasion was so well-received that their service on the border is being extended from 15 Dec into January.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/04/us/politics/us-mexico-border-troops.html?emc=edit_cn_20181208&nl=politics&nlid=8895957120181208&te=1

Speaking of Christmas gifts, a limited government shutdown Christmas present from Trump for many others could be in the wings:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/03/us/politics/wall-government-shutdown-trump.html?emc=edit_cn_20181208&nl=politics&nlid=8895957120181208&te=1

chefdavid
chefdavid

Looks like the military at the border as a deterrent worked. http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/migrant-caravan/sd-me-where-are-the-caravan-members-20181206-story.html I know my nephew and a lot of my friends would rather be there than in the middle east for Christmas.

Benevolus
Benevolus

It’s questionable whether the military at the border had any effect. That article certainly doesn’t say they did.

Those people were never going to get into the country. We do have border controls and they mostly work. The hucksters generating the whole “migrant caravan attacking us” meme know that fear works on some people and were just using that to manipulate them.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Benev, do you think a group of ragtag ramblers can get through the US military? I think they certainly had an effect. Why don’t you tell us how they don’t.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Because international law prohibits the US military from crossing the border into Mexico. Because US law prohibits the US Army from operating as a police force. In other words, they lacked the legal authority to lay a finger on anyone.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Ang, its national security! Thwarting invasions…liberal invasions at the ballot box and national treasury.

What is wrong with legal immigration?

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

The military thwarted an “invasion at the ballot box and national treasury”?

Have you been chugging CBD oil?

Noway2016
Noway2016

Plus 100000!

Gregs
Gregs

Waiting on a tweet from Trump so that the MAGA crowd can begin the assault on that flaming angry democrat Justice Kavanaugh

https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/10/politics/supreme-court-planned-parenthood-abortion/index.html

Benevolus
Benevolus

Ginny tried to link to story on Friday that I wanted to comment on. The link she posted was broken: https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/272124/talking-millennials-aout-socialism-bruce-thornton It’s supposed to be: https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/272124/talking-millennials-out-socialism-bruce-thornton So instead of what appeared to be “Talking to millenials about socialism’, it’s actually “talking millenials out of socialism”. First: The header of this site is pretty funny: “”INSIDE EVERY PROGRESSIVE IS A TOTALITARIAN SCREAMING TO GET OUT”. Second: The sub-headline is “Can a generation marked by privilege and arrogance be reasoned with?” Third: The second sentence says” Socialism’s long record of failure…” I submit that the definition of ‘socialism’ being used is pretty… Read more »

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

I read that article and it seems spot on to me. Ding, ding ding. Just a couple of paragraphs from the article below… What say you? “Millennials are a different breed. They have lived in this brave new world of affluence from childhood, and so have a much higher baseline standard of material comfort, and greater expectations for achieving their political ideals like universal free health care, guaranteed jobs, free college tuition, social harmony, and equality of outcomes rather than of opportunity. But they are continually disappointed and aggrieved because despite the serial failure of a century of socialist economies… Read more »

Benevolus
Benevolus

My main point is that just saying “socialism” doesn’t have much meaning. It’s like saying “peace”, or “freedom”. It’s a matter of degree. So that’s a signal that this is more about cranking up the outrage machine than it is about any sort of legitimate discussion. So millenials expect progress and that makes them childish? What, we should make them walk to school/work in the snow? Impose a little artificial hardship on them? That’ll straighten them right out! “A century of socialist failures”? This has been the greatest, strongest, most advanced country the planet has ever seen. Either the socialism… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

A Boomer calling millennials “privileged and arrogant” is incredibly rich. Last I checked we weren’t the generation that racked up gigantic deficits and put the social safety net on the path to insolvency.

Can we please put all the old people on a boat and send them out to sea?

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Ang as usual you have a morsel of truth in your remarks. The idiotic leftist agenda is going to place a ridiculous burden on your generation. Why do you support nonstop government spending and welfare? Unchecked borders is even more of it. Economic growth is the answer. That is the exact opposite of what socialist policies provide. Just look. Trump reverses them and growth goes up 50% or more. So is it fair to say you are cutting your own doo dads off by supporting the radical socialist agenda? Equal outcomes is what you get in Venezuela and Cuba. Isnt… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Trump reverses them and growth goes up 50% or more.

Would you mind providing a modicum of evidence as to the things Trump has “reversed” and how that has caused “growth” to go up 50% or more?

bethebalance
bethebalance

I used to think that way- to want faster change. Unfortunately, life evolves painfully slowly. Like the arc of justice. And every New becomes an Old in just one lifetime, God willing. So I forgive the Olds when they drive 8mph, or repeat the same exact story for the 8th time in one day (e.g., shout out to the CPUSA link– I didn’t see it at first, but there it was at the end!) Not to worry- after just seven reincarnations of your soul, even the Olds may understand that the key to keep living is to keep things New.… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Baby boomers became the majority of the electorate in the early 80s. At that point the debt-to-GDP ratio was about 35%. Now it’s roughly 103% and rising. Since the early 80s boomers have consistently voted to cut their own taxes and borrow money without any concern for future generations. They’ve put off necessary infrastructure maintenance and investment to the point we have a $4 trillion deficit in infrastructure and deferred maintenance. They’ve done absolutely nothing to address climate change despite over two decades of scientific consensus pointing to human activity and the burning of fossil fuels. This was a generation… Read more »

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Oh, so more socialism is the answer!? More free crap, no incentives to work. Polices that discourage growth. If anyone mentioned cutting entitlements one party would kill you if you did and the other has no balls to do it either. I don’t disagree with a thing you wrote above. This current generation is even worse because of lousy parenting and political correctness run amuck. This generation has never had to sacrifice a thing and has no clue how the real world works. I would like to see some workable solutions. More growth, caps on spending. Across the board. Climate… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

I never said more socialism is the answer. It seems that – like your hero – literacy isn’t your strong suit. My point was that we’re staring down the barrel of major issues with regard to the national debt, exploding deficits, widening income inequality, crumbling infrastructure, and a degrading environment. Those problems are largely the result of a generation of Americans that prioritized themselves over any sort of collective identity and gave themselves massive tax breaks and expensing the cost to my generation. A generation that, as you mentioned, “would kill you” if you tried to cut Medicare or Social… Read more »

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Andrew I want policies that work. My proposal is to limit government spending, maybe freeze it across the board and grow out of it without huge cuts. No one has the courage to cut. Libs will ALWAYS say it heartless. Regardless. We cannot tax our way out of this but we can grow out of it. Technology could lower healthcare costs dramatically like it has lowered costs in every other industry. Its possible… What do you suggest? I don’t care about owning libs. I want things that work. I just have not seen many ideas coming from the liberals that… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

I want things that work. I just have not seen many ideas coming from the liberals that work in my humble opinion. Then you aren’t looking. The issue isn’t a lack of ideas from liberals. The issue is a lack of intellectual curiosity that prevents you from actually reading about what the Democratic platform is. How do I know this? Because you consistently mistake communism for socialism and socialism for liberalism and incoherently rant about how liberals want excessive taxes and open borders. If you took just a couple minutes of your day to educate yourself, you’d be able to… Read more »

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Sorry, trickle down IS capitalism. Socialism has been disproved. In Venezuela, Cuba and almost every country in central and South America…and in France today!

France has a 40 year lead on the US with socialists in control. So if you like what you see there, go for it. I want no part of it. And we have to listen to leftists tell us that Europe has it all figured out….how is that immigration policy working for them too?

FreeDuck
FreeDuck

Very much approve of the new site decor.