Morning Reads – Thursday, November 29, 2018

Y’all. We are so close. 5 more sleeps until this election season is over.

But for now – morning reads:

Peaches

Jimmy Carter

Sweet Tea

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xdog
xdog

SC prisoners scam more than $500K from US troops.

It’s a familiar story–meet via dating app, build friendship, exchange compromising photos, guy shows up posing as father, money changes hands.

The lesson is familiar too, stay off dating apps.

A reasonable guess is this is not limited to SC.

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-army/2018/11/28/prisoners-steal-more-than-500k-from-troops-through-dating-app-sextortion-ring/

xdog
xdog
Indypendant
Indypendant

Electric scooters are not bicycles, they are two wheeled skateboards with a grab bar.

If you can’t ride a skateboard (and stop) successfully at 25mph, you have no business renting an electric scooter.

Will Durant
Will Durant

Even if you can ride a skateboard, without a helmet they are still a Darwinian dice roll.

Gregs
Gregs

From the looks of several downtown streetscapes across America, they are litter!

Will Durant
Will Durant

That Trump link from The Hill with the retweeted meme along with other Twitty Pulpit offerings wanting former presidents Obama and Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Rosenstein, Mueller, Comey, Soros, John Kerry, Andrew McCabe, Snoop Dogg, The New York Times, flag burners… all to be tried for treason should be noted. He has now went beyond the pale. How can you respect the office when he wants his predecessors in that office prosecuted for treason? These are the words of a despot who is tearing down the principles of the very flag he wants people to be jailed for burning. https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2018/11/29/an-incomplete-list-all-people-donald-trump-has-said-should-be-jailed/

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

It’s tempting to think Trump is playing three dimensional chess here and trying to deconstruct American institutions. He’s too big of an imbecile for that.

Trump is a 72-year-old man who watches Fox News all day. He’s acting exactly how Noway, DTM, and this board’s resident old people act. The only difference between Trump retweeting some stupid meme and Noway forwarding one on to his buddies at Myrtle’s is that Trump has a larger following. There isn’t some grand play here. Trump’s brain is turned to mush and he’s yelling at clouds.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Love this from Andrew… Trump is an adult and so are DTM and Noway! They don’t buy being an impetuous, know it all snowflake millennial that thinks he has all the answers and doesn’t know jack s—t! We are adults are not eaten up with Andrew’s politically correct garbage, identity politics, hatred, socialist bilge and constant name calling. We happen to love this country and understand what got us here. We understand the vision that this country was founded on. You are right Andrew! That is the best compliment you have given us “old folks”. Thanks! Andrew things have been… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Andrew things have been rarely better in this country on almost every measure other than civility and hate. And that is 90% coming from radical leftists like you

Says the guy who dedicated six paragraphs to insulting me. Also, learn how to properly use impetuous. Here’s a sentence: The impetuous President tweeted out the creation of a new space force without thinking of the consequences.

Ellynn
Ellynn

The ‘things have been rarely better in this country” doesn’t fly. The economy was going great, the budget was balanced, stock markets were rising, and we had a budget surplus in 1998 – and yet we still impeached a president for doing bad things.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

And the other balanced budget year was something like1969. So forget about that lala land statement. And do impeach a president for doing bad things. Lets not frame him for not doing jack sh–t! I don’t think we want to relive that time do we on the way to hyperinflation and the Vietnam disaster? A time when folks really had something to be pissed about. Right after the multiple assassinations, the draft.. oil embargoes instead of oil surpluses today. Today what are we whining about? Not enough whipped cream in our Starbucks? Spare me. Not getting a participation trophy? We… Read more »

Ellynn
Ellynn

That’s a lot of implied hystirababble and misdirection to avoid the fact that if a President is doing bad stuff, (which it is looking more likely then not whether you want to believe it or not) the “things have been rarely better in this country” defense has not been successful in the past.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

This is all I can hear when I read DTM’s posts:

Noway2016
Noway2016

And this, Drew, is all I can hear whenever you and your cadre of Libs post anything!

Indypendant
Indypendant

Every time I close the page on one of Noways posts it sounds like a toilet flushing.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Andrew, Noway nails you little buddy. The perfect lib captured right there. I figure you must be more attractive than this pitiful person.

Indypendant
Indypendant

Things are great. School shootings continue to pick up pace. Synagogue bombings are on schedule. Teargassing of children, check.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Want to bet who fired more tear gas? Trump or the blustering anointed one?!

Who caused this migration northward in the first place? The anointed one! Who is fixing this garbage? Not our lib buddies that want no borders and no proof to vote. Don’t blame Trump. He is fixing another mess that has been festering for years and left on his doorstep. Do you disagree?

Sally Forth
Sally Forth
Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

Yeah, the opioid epidemic and rapidly increasing rates of suicides are signs things have rarely been better in the country.

Benevolus
Benevolus

OK, since we are (almost) past the midterms, time to think about 2020. Is Trump going to run again? Is Trump going to get a primary challenge? What are the consultants thinking is going to be the best way to attack Trump? His childishness? His lack of knowledge/research/advice? His constant lying? His dysfunctional administration? I also want to mention that the GOP will be defending 22 Senate seats in 2020, while Dems will be defending 12. Is Perdue safe? Who might run against him? Will Colorado flip Cory Gardner? McCain’s AZ seat will be open. Is Susan Collins safe? Is… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Is Trump going to run again? Unless KFC intervenes, yes. Is Trump going to get a primary challenge? Doubt it. If he does, it won’t be a strong one. What are the consultants thinking is going to be the best way to attack Trump? Democrats had a pretty solid 2018 message… Trump is trying to take healthcare away from you and your family so he can give massive tax breaks to himself and his super-rich friends. Stick with that. I also want to mention that the GOP will be defending 22 Senate seats in 2020, while Dems will be defending… Read more »

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Strong message! Give me a break. They had NO message other than I hate Trump and I am going to raise your taxes and you are going to like it. If enough numb nuts buy into that then good for you.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

If that’s the case then “I hate Trump and I’m going to raise your taxes and you are going to like it” gave the Democrats a bigger win than the Tea Party and Newt’s Republican revolution and the widest popular vote margin since Watergate. They should stick with it.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Well so far that is the only message. You might want to think of at least one idea that help some Joe get a job instead of foodstamps. Just trying to help…

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Again, that message helped Democrats retake the House. If it ain’t broke don’t fix it.

chamblee54
chamblee54

An exception was Georgia. Demoze found a dog whistle way to say racism, and played it for all it was worth.

Indypendant
Indypendant

I’m a numb nut and I vote!

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Its obvious Indy… you do vote…do you procreate?! You are not alone believe me!

Indypendant
Indypendant

Go forth and multiply.

I took it literally.

Just like caring for widows, orphans, and foreigners.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Indy, you probably are not full numb nut…maybe just a one nut. Not a full fledged Bofa Deez!

That is a complement by the way. It is obvious who the full numb nuts are on this blog!

Benevolus
Benevolus

Well that devolved quickly.

Ellynn
Ellynn

Like you didn’t really know that would happen when you asked the questions? HAHAHAHAHA

Ellynn
Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Wife and I did IVF and were happy just to get the two babies we did. I can’t imagine someone being so vain as to demand certain characteristics

Ellynn
Ellynn

Currently the set of twins in China that started off the how global debate in the link had the gene that allows cells to carry and contract HIV removed. But what else does the gene do?

Ellynn
Ellynn
Ellynn

And the California Dem Party Link resigns…

Andrew C. Pope
downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Trump, Trump, supposed collusion…focus folks, focus!! Collusion, FBI, Hillary, DNC, Justice Department…

Ellynn
Ellynn

Trumps personal lawyer was talking to Putin and/or his office directly in 2017, and basically Trump lying about talking to the Russians over Trump business while running for president is not important? (Which at this point is the minimum this ends up being,)

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Here are the things I take away from this: The Trump Organization, through Cohen, pursued a Trump Tower Moscow deal for far longer than Cohen testified that he did. Cohen was briefing “family” on the deal. That means Cohen presumably briefed Don Jr. That likely means Don Jr. lied to Congress about the Trump Tower Moscow deal. Cohen also spoke to Trump himself about the deal. Depending on what questions were posed to him, it’s entirely possible that Trump has now lied, under oath, to the Special Counsel. The Trump Tower plans continued well after the Trump Campaign was informed… Read more »

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Its entirely possible that monkey’s fly out of a body part and so far they have not proven a stinking thing! We already know where the collusion is. That IDIOT Adam Schiff did more colluding with the call from the comedians than Trump ever did. Go listen to the damn tape! It is hysterical. I have never seen a bigger hoax in my life other than the liberal climate panic BS! The climate has been the most docile the last 9000 years than anytime in earth’s history. Dat be a long time. If not, we wouldn’t have 7 billion folks… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

When did I mention climate change? Or did you choose to repost your buddy’s Facebook meme because you couldn’t think of anything relevant to say about the Mueller investigation.

If you’ve got evidence that shows we’re bound for another ice age and the only way to prevent it is to create more carbon emissions, I’d invite you to post it here.

bethebalance
bethebalance

Not sure if the pivot from Mueller to climate change was a symptom of ADD or senility, but it appears to be beyond mere political spin.
I submit blessings for healing.

And I’m going to throw in some blessings for understanding.
Because the bit about the Earth’s orbit around the Sun?
Not sure if that refers to, you know, Winter?
Because Winter is coming…

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Balance, I wouldn’t expect most libs to have much understanding of climate change other than Al Gore’s slide show!

bethebalance
bethebalance

This makes me lean towards ADD, augmented by calcified hate.
Maybe don’t just always assume the worst expectation is true.
Possible, but possibilities aren’t definitive.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Here you go little buddy. A lot of info and Al Gore is not mentioned once. Do you want to argue that the last 9000 years have not been one of the most docile climate periods in our history and because of that and the end of the last ice age, man has flourished? The average global temperature has stayed within a range of 2 degrees. Many times naturally occuring temperature changes can be 20 degrees or more in such periods. That is far more normal that what we have enjoyed. Crops don’t do well under that scenario. Whether what… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

I’m familiar with what a glacial period is. Instead of a general wikipedia page and a drunken rant can you post something that directly supports your contention that we’re headed for another ice age and can only protect ourselves by emitting more CO2.

As you said “The earth’s orbit around the sun will start another ICE soon enough. That is a problem…Not a damn thing we can do about it other than maybe add more C02!

You do know we orbit the sun once a year, right? In fact, that’s how the whole concept of years work.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

That all you got? zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz When is Al Gore latest sequel coming out? Would we all like to go see it?

Does Godzilla make a special appearance for all of the squealing masses? Maybe Indypendent can get some free popcorn!

https://www.newyorker.com/science/elements/whats-missing-from-an-inconvenient-sequel-al-gores-new-climate-change-documentary.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

That all you got? zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

I’m sure you’ve heard that line before.

What, pray tell, does Al Gore have to do with the Mueller investigation? You’re becoming increasingly untethered, mi amigo.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Great point again Andrew ole buddy! Al Gore is as guilty of collusion as Trump is.

Now Hillary, Mueller, Strok, Page and dozens more are eyeball deep in collusion. Throw in Adam Schiffless for good measure. Let’s all measure them all for orange jump suits. They will match Trump’s complexion!.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Seek medical help. Seriously.

bethebalance
bethebalance

Hey reforestation, or prevention of deforestation, is a legit component. Not the entire answer, but a legit concern. But as for the science, many climate studies look at changes over as long a period of time as they can, and compare the changes to more modern changes. So, in those instances, it’s about a difference between rates of change, and the differences between the changes since fossil fuel production and use are statistically appreciably different than the changes over other periods of time. So, I don’t know how far back in time they can reach, but the models are surely… Read more »

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Ice Cores go back close to a million years and are pretty reliable. There is not a darn thing alarming about the last 9000 years including the last panic stricken 150! You cant find any time in the history of the earth with LESS climate change than the last 9000. Yet the panic stricken goobers are worried about climate change now. Mankind has thrived because there has been SO LITTLE CLIMATE CHANGE. Lets find cleaner and cleaner energy sources and we are doing so. We have gone from caves to horse dung and its massive problem, fossil fuels that allowed… Read more »

bethebalance
bethebalance

Frankly, it sounds like you support moving towards renewables, with nuclear, as long as its economical. Seems fair. Which seems to make your biggest concern about the way for which energy policy is advocated– as in, you think there is a false urgency used in the advocacy. For that, I would start by saying that’s how many many policies are advocated for. E.g., any advocacy that uses a “slippery slope” argument will use extreme examples to fight off a much more subtle or mild change. And most renewable energy policy advocates are just saying there is a slippery slope, but… Read more »

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

I am for all energy sources that make sense. No discrimination. I am not stupid enough not use fossil fuels at this time because renewables right now are a rounding error —so trying to ban them is idocy. What energy sources are liberals for? Not Nuke, Not coal, not oil, not gas … so what the hell do we use? Their stance is beyond silly. Obama was on record saying he wanting energy prices to rise sharply, yes RISE SHARPLY…to save the planet! Good lord and good riddance. Cap and tax…sure that is a great idea. Take a listen. By… Read more »

bethebalance
bethebalance

I don’t think any of the positions you broadly and universally ascribe to “liberals” is so cut and dry. At all . Fyi, Life never is.
I think the large majority of Dems would say, at least in the short-term, just get coal cleaner, and natural gas safer/cleaner. In the long-term, yeah, move towards renewables.
I may be an outlier, but I support nuclear– BUT I think we should improve the safety/tech first.
Amidst all that, the questions become how you (the gov) support the economics and effectiveness of improving safety/ health/tech improvements.,

bethebalance
bethebalance

This whole investigation feels like it’s definitely in the endgame. Does Trump issue Xmas pardons? Or try to fire Mueller on January 2nd? Because I see that one of the pending step is indicting Don Jr. And family is the real red line for Trump. But Trump also clearly not liking the discovery of the Russian deal, which means something was probly really fishy with the deal. The worst possibility is that some proceeds from the TT project would be kicked back to Kremlin, and the % would be nice and fat for Russia’s extra efforts in election. I obviously… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Got a feeling Whitaker isn’t getting the full-time AG gig. He signed off on the plea agreement and information filed today.

bethebalance
bethebalance

I heard – and it make sense-that Whitaker needs to get an opinion from DoJ Ethics on any conflicts– most probly w particular regard to that old business of his that’s under investigation?
But if that’s correct, then it might be this guy who signs off one way or another:
https://www.justice.gov/jmd/meet-assistant-attorney-general-0

Since we must politicize everything, I guess, this AAG- appointed in ’06- would be a “Bush Attorney” or a “Bushy”.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Absent Whitaker it would actually be the DAG. Rosenstein has been overseeing the Special Counsel since Sessions’ recused himself from the matter. Whitaker has not made such a recusal and, to the best of my knowledge, is currently in charge of the Special Counsel investigation until he does so.

bethebalance
bethebalance

Little clarification- The guy I linked to is the guy who oversees the division which includes the Ethics Office, so he may be the guy who signs off on whether Whitaker has any conflicts re: any investigation, or whether Whitaker needs to recuse. That kind of decision may also go up the chain, and I wouldn’t even be able to tell you if the Ethics Office’s opinion was binding or not. But I think it’s in play.

Benevolus
Benevolus

Maybe this?
“The Trump Organization Planned To Give Vladimir Putin The $50 Million Penthouse In Trump Tower Moscow”

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/anthonycormier/the-trump-organization-planned-to-give-vladimir-putin-the?bftwnews&utm_term=4ldqpgc#4ldqpgc

Benevolus
Benevolus

I find the Manafort situation more interesting. I mean, it’s possible that they planned this. Once Manafort got indicted, they (Manafort lawyers and Trump lawyers) might have gotten together and decided to let Manafort agree to a cooperation agreement and then feed info about the Mueller investigation back to Trump. In return he would get a pardon. If there was incriminating information he had, he would have to lie about that. We already know most of that is true: – He did agree to cooperate. – He continued to talk to Team Trump. – He did lie to Mueller. So… Read more »

Ellynn
Ellynn

Meanwhile in Germany…

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-11-29/deutsche-bank-headquarters-searched-in-money-laundering-probe?srnd=premium

This is tied to the Panama Papers from 2016. This might be a sleeper story based on some of the Trump admiration members with some ties to LLC and holding firms used a shell companies, banks, and real-estate eluded to in the document release.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Meanwhile ask Merkle how the million radicals let into Germany is working out for her and the country!!

Ellynn
Ellynn

The defection and topic changing whataboutism is not going to make the fact the bank the holds a large number of Trump Inc. loans, Ties to the bank Wilber Ross was the chairman of, and almost all major Russian oligarchs was raided by law enforcement in relation to money laundering go away or change.

Sally Forth
Sally Forth

LOL-ROTF!! Jessica, you outdid yourself with that link to the UK news site Metro. Anybody with the temerity to click on that link, check out the McDonald’s stories down the right side of the page.

Those crazy Brits. 🙂

Ellynn
Ellynn

I got an error page when I tried to link to it.

Sally Forth
downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Sally, don’t scare the libs with that alien article. They already think the end is near because Al Gore has some show coming up soon!

A giant phallic shaped rock in space might get them over the edge…It has to be from another world…it must be cold an’ deep too!

We know we lost some libs when Hale Bop came through last time, lets not have another liberal tragedy!

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Not everything is about the libs, homie.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

No but most absurd things in the news that don’t make sh– for sense usually involve some lib(s). Does anyone disagree with that?

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Honest question, what does a story about alien artifacts have to do with liberals?

Ellynn
Ellynn
Sally Forth
Sally Forth

Yep, good article – but I’m partial to the one toward bottom about the man hearing voices in the chest he bought. ‘Guess I’m just having one of those weird humor days.

Benevolus
Benevolus

Hey, somebody post a want ad in Lordstown, OH.

Sally Forth
Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

If you think this was cancelled because of the ships, I’ve got a tower in Moscow to sell you.

Sally Forth
Sally Forth

How much?

Benevolus
Benevolus

Nothing like a strongly worded tweet to get some action.

Mr1raggedhole
Mr1raggedhole

Maybe he could just tell Vlad to “cut it out”. Yeeeeaaaah. Yeeeeaaaah! That’s the ticket!

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Mr1raggedhole—darn it you posted what I wanted to say! Yea cut it out Vlad. Wait till after the election so I can bend over a log again for you! I am sure President Red Line in the sandbox scared Vlad. Vlad was mad because he didn’t get 150 billion in cash from Obama like the Iranians did!! Now why the hell did we do that again? And the 2 billion in cash flown in cargo planes for the mullahs!! Jeeezzzz. What for some walkin’ around money like Jesse Jackson and Sharpton throw out to their voters?!!

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Yo, DD, Drunk Uncle is back on the sauce again.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Stifle that speech, stifle that speech!!
You’re sad, Snivler! Address what he said. Don’t run to the moderators!! You just cannot take any comments you don’t like. And you certainly can’t argue against them! Pathetic.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

I am surprised he lets you prattle on after shadowing folks, creating fake accounts, using horrible language and posting under multiple names …but I don’t make the rules and could care less. The biggest whiner doesn’t like it when someone tosses it back on him.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

His comments about the Iran nuclear deal have been refuted on multiple occasions here and elsewhere and, quite frankly, have absolutely nothing to do with the discussion at hand. I’m not gonna keep pushing the rock uphill and I’m tired of seeing his “copy+paste” rants which have no relation to the grander discussion.

Indypendant
Indypendant

Can one of y’all pass the popcorn?

Noway2016
Noway2016

You yourself referenced ‘Moscow” Ragged mentioned “Vlad.” Sally mentioned “Putin.” So, DTM’s mentioning “Vlad” too, ain’t off the mark within this particular thread under the Open Posting allowance rules within “The Morning Reads.” And just because you say you’ve refuted something…don’t make it so. So, you just keep taking names there, Little Buddy!!

Indypendant
Indypendant

Chicken in the bread pan pickin’ out dough!

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Those nuke deal numbers are facts. You have been pushing stuff downhill for years.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Link?

Sally Forth
Sally Forth

Gosh damn, I can’t leave you guys for even a couple of hours! Gawd only knows how much poo got slung around while I was tied up with my own family circus during the holiday week.

Here, let me give you something you can really chew on:
https://www.puppetstringnews.com/blog/evidence-surfaces-of-vatican-funding-caravans-targeting-america-with-cash?fbclid=IwAR38pEacCAPBhSPSrFQ0yqDDbkj_VaneVOWz6FEjBMSsia9QyWoB06ly-5c#
Looks like it wasn’t just Pueblo Sin Fronteras organizing the Central American caravans from all those predominantly Catholic countries. Senor Pope is subsidizing to get his hands into the U.S. pocketbook via all those minions too.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Sally,

I’ve never heard of “Puppet String News,” but I’m incredibly hesitant to believe anything coming out of a site that peddled QAnon conspiracy theories and only links to sites like the Daily Caller and Gateway Pundit.

I know you don’t like the “mainstream media,” but this website looks like the equivalent of getting your news from the homeless guy behind QuikTrip.

Sally Forth
Sally Forth

I don’t know squat about QAnon, but I believe the Daily Caller is edited by Tucker Carlson and has always proven trustworthy, and the Gateway Pundit tends to be reliable news also. This site is new to me, so I’ve been researching, finding factual info to back up this story. I’ve also seen news reports showing nuns and priests providing food, bottled water, back packs, tents, etc. to the thousands of people streaming toward the US border, as well as shepherding folks onto buses and trucks carrying them up the highways. My own eyeballs keep me from resorting to the… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Priests giving people food, water, clothing, and shelter? Let me find some pearls to clutch. I can’t believe the Catholic Church would engage in such disruptive and ungodly acts like clothing and sheltering the poor, feeding hungry people, and giving water to the thirsty. I wonder who put such a radical notion in their head?! I’m outraged!!! We should find that guy who is out there preaching this message of aid and comfort to the poor and crucify him! I bet he’s a Jew. As for the reliability of the Daily Caller. I’d note that Tucker Carlson is a well-documented… Read more »

Ellynn
Ellynn

So you’re saying my mom’s 3rd Cousin, the Bishop of Bluefields, Nicaragua (who is a US citizen) is trying to get his hands on US money for the Pope…? Seriously? Wow… The man has already been shot for clothing and feeding the poor and the folks trying to escape corrupt dictators when the contra’s attacked him in 1990. Killed 2 nuns he was with that folks stage protests at Ft Benning over… But now he is … whatever you think he is… because some 3rd rate news site tells you the Holy See is “subsidizing to get his hands into… Read more »

Benevolus
Benevolus

I’ve been at some of those School of the Americas protests at Ft. Benning. Really quite moving. I think they did have an impact eventually.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

That news organization could not be any more biased than CNN, MSNBC or the New York Times. When did they abandon honest journalism?

Sally Forth
Sally Forth

ACP, one of the other big Pope Corp. organizations is La Familia Latina Unid. And I have no problem with any of the NGO’s going into foreign countries and doing all the nice things you laid out. As long as they do their charitable work for people in their own countries, show them how to make their own countries better, etc. But it is not charitable to do organizing in other countries to overrun the U.S. with people rank-and-file Americans did not invite. We already have a large population of poor, uneducated people that need help – and charity does,… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

But it is not charitable to do organizing in other countries to overrun the U.S. with people rank-and-file Americans did not invite. Immigration doesn’t operate on invitations, my guy. “Rank-and-file Americans” didn’t invite the Irish, Chinese, Poles, Hungarians, Italians, Japanese, Slovaks, or Russians either. These folks are looking to apply for asylum, a process our government offers to allow them to immigrate to our country. Is it any wonder that US life expectancy experience is dropping like a rock in the last few years? The life expectancy is dropping largely because of opioid overdoses and suicide. Limiting immigration because folks… Read more »

Sally Forth
Sally Forth

Of course average Americans did not individually invite people from other countries, but they did have government assurance that thousands of people with communicable diseases would not be dumped into their cities and towns. We had numerical limits enforced, health clearances, etc. of an orderly immigration process to protect the general population of the US. Living in America is a privilege not to be taken lightly. According to the CDC report this week you are correct that opiod prevalence and suicide are contributing factors to the US dropping life expectancy, but definitely not the whole picture. The CDC stated they… Read more »

Benevolus
Benevolus

Wow. This may be the most honest assessment I’ve heard regarding the fear of immigration. But first: “thousands of people with communicable diseases would… be dumped into their cities and towns: In what universe is this an actual threat? Also, there is nothing about our immigration process that has deteriorated. These ‘caravans’ can approach the border all they want but it doesn’t mean they will get in. They can apply and wait, or they can try to sneak in and risk getting caught. It is still a completely orderly process. “But it’s obvious that all the communicable diseases from foreign… Read more »

Sally Forth
Sally Forth

To your first question, it is a very real threat right this moment with the last count from the Tijuana Health Dept. being over 7,000 migrants from at least four different countries trying to come into the US. Per the THD today, 60% are sick with communicable diseases. See my earlier post for a listing. To your second question, why do you think the CDC posts health warnings for Americans traveling to other countries? And based on personal experience, the sickest I’ve ever been was from trips to central and south America, as well as to Europe. Repeatedly sick as… Read more »

Indypendant
Indypendant

Communicable diseases?

Your mental illness is not contagious.

Benevolus
Benevolus

“trying to come into the US.” Trying being the operative word. What is ‘THD’? The Home Depot? I’ve been sick overseas too, but I’m not sure how relevant that is. If Cubans have an immunity to certain bugs in their water and they come here, do we ‘catch’ their immunity? I don’t understand the beef with language. Census takers are supposed to count everybody, so if they find non-English speaking people they need to communicate with them. That’s not crazy at all. Canada has to print everything in two languages. Switzerland has 4 official languages. I didn’t come across anyone… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Please provide a link to the Tijuana Health Department report you’re citing to. Spanish-language version is fine.

I have traveled to many other countries and have yet to find one that will change their country’s language to fit me

I have traveled to Japan, China, South Korea, France, Switzerland, Germany, Italy, Sweden, Norway, Hungary, Israel, Turkey, the UAE, Mexico, Colombia, Uruguay, Chile, Argentina… I’ve had English spoken to me in every. single. one. Even in countries where I’m fluent in the native language people still use English.

Benevolus
Benevolus

Where did you go in Uruguay? I’ve been thinking about a trip to Montevideo.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Did a weekend in Montevideo, it was fantastic. Best steak I’ve ever had. Visited a few wineries. A+ trip.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

but they did have government assurance that thousands of people with communicable diseases would not be dumped into their cities and towns

When was that assurance made? How was it made? Who made it?

But it’s obvious that all the communicable diseases from foreign countries

No it isn’t.

they shared the commonality of being from Western European countries with similar cultures to the original British colonies

Not really. I mean, they were all white and Christian. But the cultural similarities between Germans and Englishmen in the 1700s were notable.

Sally Forth
Sally Forth
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  • Well, just damn! I can’t make it work – guess y’all have to click on the link to see Beeler’s cartoon.

    Sally Forth
    Sally Forth

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    Noway2016
    Noway2016

    Yea, it really is that simple! Thanks, Sally!

    downthemiddle
    downthemiddle

    Notice the shiny new wall?

    Indypendant
    Indypendant

    That’s the only wall Mexico is paying for, the imaginary one!