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Noway2016
Noway2016

But I thought it was Global War…., no wait, Ahhh, yes, Climate Chan…Now, what?! HUH??!?!?? LMAO!
Paging Mr. Gorged! Mr. Al Gorged!!!
https://metro.co.uk/2018/11/16/a-mini-ice-age-could-be-on-the-way-and-its-going-to-get-very-very-cold-8146529/

Raleigh
Raleigh

Come-on Norway get with the program, in the 70’s Al Gore was saying it was global cooling, in the 90’s It was global warming, now it’s climate changes since they can’t predict if it is going to cool down or heat up. You know the amount of climate change is directly tied to the amount of grant money at stake. Don’t make me need to come here and correct you again.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Yes sir!!

chefdavid
chefdavid

But what about Quaternary glaciation?

chefdavid
chefdavid

I’ve been saying this for a long time. We don’t need to worry about the so called global warming because we are all going to freeze before then.

Benevolus
Benevolus

Maybe you can get some good deals on coastal property before the word gets out.

https://www.coastalpropertyliquidation.com/index.php/creative-2

Benevolus
Benevolus

As usual, you are getting your so-called ‘information’ from dubious sources, leading you to erroneous conclusions. That headline is designed to get clicks from poor suckers like you desperate to reinforce their flawed world view by any means possible. What that guy is talking about is the 11 year sunspot cycle. We are approaching the low point in sunspot activity now, and he claims (it is apparently disputed) that low sunspot activity is associated with lower temps. But this is a cycle that just lasts a few years. This has nothing to do with overall global warming due to greenhouse… Read more »

Raleigh
Raleigh

The sun spot cycle is an 11 Year cycle however we have only been recording accurate sunspot numbers for about 250 years. Before that we have some personal observations by various scientist of the times. The current sunspot cycles most active period had only about half the sunspots of the previous cycle and much lower that the last few cycles. During the Maunder Minimum which was a period between about 1600 to 1700 there were almost no sunspot sightings. This period corresponded with the “little Ice Age”. Does this mean we are heading into another low sunspot era? No way… Read more »

Noway2016
Noway2016

You poor sheep!!! LMAO!!

Noway2016
Noway2016

Good ol’ B!!! Maybe a ram but a sheep nonetheless!

gulch
gulch

Predicted that she would sue to force a new election: https://www.ajc.com/news/state–regional-govt–politics/kemp-holds-steady-lead-over-abrams-state-prepares-certify-vote/WI5zxjHjLNR2WbvcEBVYWL/ But for Galloway of the AJC to acknowledge this is revealing: That came even as more national Democrats are picking up on Abrams’ line of attack questioning the legitimacy of Kemp’s possible victory. Hillary Clinton and U.S. Sen. Cory Booker of New Jersey have both declared Abrams the victim of an unfair process. And U.S. Sen. Sherrod Brown of Ohio told a group in Washington, “if Stacey Abrams doesn’t win in Georgia, they stole it.” Some conservatives see a double standard. Gov. Rick Scott, for instance, has been roundly… Read more »

chamblee54
chamblee54

“Her campaign has said it has heard from 25,000 voters who had problems casting their ballots,” I don’t believe this.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Total BS! She’s rapidly approaching footnote status.

gulch
gulch

I am going to go further. Abrams has from the beginning accused Kemp of rigging the process and disenfranchising voters – including instances where Kemp was following state law i.e. the “purging voters” thing when state law requires them to be purged, things that he had no control over such as the Randolph County decision by a local elections board trying to comply with the federal Americans With Disability Act and issues with voting machines when elections are managed at the local level in Georgia and not the state level – because in addition to using that to increase turnout… Read more »

Benevolus
Benevolus

Jack Kingston!?!

gulch
gulch

The highly respected former congressman from Savannah. Good policy guy, never been accused of corruption or associated with scandal, narrowly – and regrettably – lost to legacy mediocrity and ethically challenged David Perdue in the senate race. You don’t think that he would have been a much better nominee and governor than Kemp? I realize that he is too conservative for your taste, but you get to pick the nominees for the GOP when conservatives get to pick the Democratic candidates.

Benevolus
Benevolus

Wow. Yeah.
He defended body slamming that reporter.
Denies evolution.
Wants a Constitutional amendment to ban same-gender marriage.
Dismissed Parkland students as ‘leftist stooges’.

He would be a good candidate. Maybe in Mississippi.

gulch
gulch

If you don’t realize that candidates like Stacey Abrams are as offensive to conservatives as Kingston is to progressives then there is no point even trying to have this discussion. You gladly support the fringe 10% of your own party while wanting the other side to only elect centrists.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Stacey Abrams’ isn’t the fringe, homie. She just got nearly half the vote here in the State of Georgia. She won the Democratic primary in a rout. I don’t think you understand what the term “fringe” means.

gulch
gulch

First of all I am not your “homie.” For kicks, I could even charge you with cultural appropriation for using that term to begin with.

Second if Abrams’ political showing validates her ideology then the same is true of Kemp, Kingston, Ted Cruz, Trump and all of the other conservatives that you show so little respect to either them or the voters that elected them.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Kingston has never gotten 49% of the vote of a statewide electorate.

Noway2016
Noway2016

“Nearly half…” Almost. Close. But not 50 plus 1. That’s gotta sting!

Benevolus
Benevolus

Au contraire. I hope the other side does nominate their fringe 10%.

By the way, if Jack Kingston is the center, who is on the fringe?

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Please provide a cite for the notion that Jack Kingston is “highly respected.” Are we talking about the same Jack “the Jews are funding the gun control marches” Kingston? Jack “the President might have been born in Kenya” Kingston? Jack “let’s end Medicare” Kingston? Dude was a clown when he was in office. Saw him at the Jittery Joes in Five Points a few weeks back. He’s still a clown. You want a Republican candidate who wouldn’t have looked like some idiot redneck* you should have stuck with Cagle. *Again, I feel the need to note that Kemp’s “idiot redneck”… Read more »

gulch
gulch

If Kingston is a clown, then what does that make Abrams? You mean your side gets to have partisans whose views are to the left of 70% of the population – and 85% of Georgia – but the GOP has to run Lincoln Chafee and Margaret Chase Smith types? Yeah, that’s real fair.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

How are Abrams views “to the left of 70% of the population – and 85% of Georgia” when she got 48 to 49% of the vote?

gulch
gulch

Said it below. If Abrams’ political success validates her views, then Kingston and Trump winning races in Georgia does the same for them.

NoParty4Me
NoParty4Me

This is the same old DTM blather, put several unrelated, generalities together that have no meaning or relevance, and proclaim they apply to some single-minded definition of a group.

chamblee54
chamblee54

I don’t know if this translates into respect. Jack Kingston was on the Bill Maher show the same night as Milo Y., Malcolm Nance, and Larry Wilmore. Mr. Kingston made a good showing for himself. Links to this are in the blog post below. https://chamblee54.wordpress.com/2017/02/18/distractions-and-the-clown-show/

chefdavid
chefdavid

What?
“In Kemp’s eight years as secretary of state, black voter registration in Georgia has gone up every cycle, with an overall increase of 462,000 voters, or more than 31 percent, between 2010 and 2018. That outpaces white voter registration both in real numbers and as a percentage of all voters. Black voter turnout has been consistently around 50 percent for midterm federal elections and 70 percent during presidential years. ”
https://www.weeklystandard.com/michael-warren/2018-midterms-whats-the-truth-about-the-53-000-pending-voters-in-georgia

Benevolus
Benevolus

Not sure what your point is.
It’s not like Brian Kemp was out there registering voters. There has been massive voter registration efforts over the last few years, much of which was organized by Stacey Abrams. All those applications get turned in. I was led to believe that they were processed by the counties, but now we are all agreeing that the SoS does actually process these applications? And that since Brian Kemp didn’t sh*tcan all of the African American registrations that he is somehow a hero? Is that the narrative here?

gulch
gulch

I agree that merely because Kemp didn’t disenfranchise all black voters doesn’t mean that he didn’t disenfranchise any. But I challenge you here: Abrams has been dishonestly blaming Kemp for the actions of local elections boards that are clearly beyond his control as well as misled people into thinking that his actions that are entirely consistent with state law in purging voters are illegal and racist. At one point – and only because of being directly challenged (by Republicans and not by the media!) – the Abrams team admitted that Kemp was following the law by purging voters in those… Read more »

gulch
gulch

Still waiting for a reply here. Crickets …

Benevolus
Benevolus

Jeez, I’m working over here! This ‘exact match’ is the biggest issue, and that was purely Kemp’s discretion. So he owns that one. Other than that, yes, the political rhetoric is a bit inflammatory- on both sides. But here in the US we really try to avoid filing criminal charges against political opponents during an election unless it is very serious. That is banana republic stuff. Kemp’s staff also recommended that Randolph county close 7 of 9 polling places. This is in an environment where Republicans across the country are actively and obviously trying to suppress the vote, so anything… Read more »

gulch
gulch

“Kemp’s staff also recommended that Randolph county close 7 of 9 polling places.” That isn’t what actually happened. A consultant hired by Randolph County recommended that they close 7 of 9 polling places because they didn’t have wheelchair ramps and the county didn’t have the money to install them. The consultant had ties to the SOS office but it was the Randolph County election board who chose to hire the consultant, and it was the county who chose to accept the consultant’s advice, which wasn’t binding. It only became an issue when and because the Abrams people decided to make… Read more »

Benevolus
Benevolus

OK, maybe ‘staff’ wasn’t the right word. “Although the immediate crisis in Randolph County is over, a number of questions remain. Although Kemp—the GOP gubernatorial candidate who currently serves as secretary of state—eventually opposed the plan, he seems to have played a behind-the-scenes role in its inception. The poll-closure scheme was devised by a consultant named Mike Malone, an associate of Kemp’s who supports his run for governor. Kemp, who has a notorious history of racial disenfranchisement, asked Malone to recommend poll closures in multiple Georgia counties, including Randolph.” https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/08/randolph-county-georgia-rejects-plan-to-close-polls-before-the-november-election.html “During his nearly eight years as secretary of state, Kemp… Read more »

chamblee54
chamblee54

“But without the context and with hyperbolic rhetoric, the claims of voter suppression aren’t much different from the demagoguery Democrats decry from the likes of Kemp and Donald Trump.”

chamblee54
chamblee54

“Now what about the voter purges? An investigative piece by American Public Media reported that nearly 600,000 Georgia voters were removed from the rolls in 2017. Team Kemp has an explanation for that: A 2016 lawsuit brought by Common Cause and the NAACP over the state’s voter list temporarily halted the biennial purge of inactive voters. After the lawsuit was thrown out, Georgia had two cycles’ worth of inactive voters to remove from its list.”

Noway2016
Noway2016

Channeling Claiborne Darden: “It’s ova, it’s ovaaaaaas!!!!”

gulch
gulch

What is it that prevents voting by smartphone or other computers? I mean if you can use computers not only for banking but to file income taxes and submit other documents where your identity has to be verified and your privacy protected what is it that prevents a voting app? Google could create one in 6 months. (Apple: give them 3 years but it would work better.) None of this stuff with 3 hour waits, faulty voting machines, exact matches, showing up at the wrong precinct, voter ID laws that allegedly disenfranchise people etc. would be a problem. Of course… Read more »

Benevolus
Benevolus

I suspect that given all the data breaches of companies like Yahoo, Equifax, and JPMorgan, there is not enough confidence to entrust our election system to the internet.
Also, I think you would have to build it in such a way that the voter couldn’t log in and save and view their ballot, because then you would be back in the scenario of people selling their votes.

Instead, we should have automatic voter registration when you turn 18, and the ability to vote on holidays and/or weekends. Not to mention paper ballots.)

gulch
gulch

I do not agree with automatic voter registration or same day registration. Participating in democracy should require some effort, and registering to vote is the absolute easiest government task to perform. “I suspect that given all the data breaches of companies like Yahoo, Equifax, and JPMorgan, there is not enough confidence to entrust our election system to the internet.” That is the purpose of storing the ballot on your phone: a paper trail which would make auditing and recounts easy and automatic. “Also, I think you would have to build it in such a way that the voter couldn’t log… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Participating in democracy should require some effort

But not the effort of actually leaving your house to go the mailbox or a polling place?

Automatic voter registration. Expand vote by mail. Go back to paper ballots. (although Broward County’s ballot design may wind up screwing Nelson in that Florida Senate race) Expand early voting. Make Election Day a national holiday. Have districts drawn by a non-partisan commission.

gulch
gulch

One of the reason why I oppose automatic voter registration is that some people – Jehovah’s Witnesses and Anabaptists for example – do not wish to register to vote for religious or other reasons and their views should be respected. But there is no good reason to make voter registration compulsory, and no the fact that other countries who do not have our Bill of Rights do it isn’t a good reason. What is the difference between voting by mail – which isn’t truly leaving the house – and voting by phone? Expanding early voting and making election day a… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Jehovah’s Witnesses and Anabaptists for example – do not wish to register to vote for religious or other reasons and their views should be respected. You know what they can do? They can write to the state to have their names removed from the voting lists. The law requires conscientious objectors to register with the selective service. Should there be a draft, at that point they can file a petition for exemption. Why not treat voting the same way? Register everyone automatically on their 18th birthday and, if you have some sort of objection to democracy, you can ask to… Read more »

gulch
gulch

And the people who have religious objections to the Christmas and Easter pageants at their public schools can just go to the library for their duration – they can use that time to study and do homework so it would actually help them academically! – right? Sounds fair to me. Or how about we simply refrain from imposing on people’s beliefs as much as possible and just require people who want to vote to register to do so? Especially since it is easier to register to vote than it is to get a public library card.

Benevolus
Benevolus

Ahhh, separation of church and state ain’t all it’s cracked up to be anyway.
/sarcasm.

Ellynn
Ellynn

How to have automatic voting registration AND make gulch happy. You get/change/update a drivers license or DVM Photo ID. In between the section where it asks if you want to be a organ donor, or a vet, you have an opt out of being registered to vote. Example; “As a Georgia resident, you will automatically be registered as a Georgia voter upon your 18th birthday if you are legally allowed to vote. If you wish to remove your name as a registered voter please check the box.” The DVM is required to have a certified birth, certificate, proof of Georgia… Read more »

Benevolus
Benevolus

Participating in democracy should require some effort, so you want to allow voting by cell phone? The prospect of selling votes may pale (arguably) in comparison to other fraud, but piling on more potential fraud isn’t helpful. I don’t think the absentee ballot system is all that bad anyway. What about that is problematic? I don’t see how storing the ballot on your phone would ever be considered an official ballot for purposed of recounts. Even if we did this, your ballot would need to be transmitted to some central place where it could be stored somehow. Once you have… Read more »

Benevolus
Benevolus

I’m not sure I agree with same day registration either. Or at least, I don’t understand how they validate those ballots. I suppose it would be like our provisional ballots, that have to be checked later before being counted? If so, maybe that’s OK. Seems like it would delay the vote counting if it was too widespread.

xdog
xdog

‘Please listen carefully, as our options have recently changed.’
Yeah, that’ll work.

gulch
gulch

I never get that problem with my banking app. So why would that problem occur with a voting app? Also, even when my banking app is down, I can still go to my local bank branch if I really need to. So anyone who can’t vote using the the app can still use the horsewhip and buggy method of voting as a backup. Never make the perfect the enemy of the good, especially since the fiascos in Florida and Georgia show that the current system is still far from perfect. Such as our voting machines that are running on Microsoft… Read more »

chamblee54
chamblee54

“So why would that problem occur with a voting app?” This is Georgia we are talking about.

gulch
gulch

That is why I said “hire Google”. The whole public-private partnership thing in order to come up with a technology solution that actually works. Or at least works better than the ObamaCare rollout actually did, but that was only because the IT job that the government initially used was a campaign contributor, which was the same reason for a ton of issues that happened during the Bush presidency. In this hypothetical scenario campaign contributors would be barred from seeking the contract.

chamblee54
chamblee54

” In this hypothetical scenario campaign contributors would be barred from seeking the contract.” That puts the high back in hypothetical.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

“Hire Google” is a f-ing awful idea. You do know that they contribute heavily to campaigns, right?

NoParty4Me
NoParty4Me

Voting by app or online. Dumb. Another easily hackable, non-accountable, , easily manipulated by those running the election, voting method. Dumb.

gulch
gulch

And this differs from our current system how? Especially if the progressive allegations – and despite your moniker you are a progressive – against Bush in 2000, Trump in 2016 and Kemp now are to be taken seriously? Oh and there is stuff like this: https://www.naplesnews.com/story/news/politics/2018/11/15/florida-recount-democrats-launch-plan-altered-state-form-fix-ballots/2009178002/ Yeah you are right. Voting by Internet is MUCH WORSE than what we have now. And keep in mind what I stated earlier: filing your taxes, submiting your student loan papers and a bunch of other government duties that require identification, security and privacy has been done online FOR DECADES as opposed to banking.… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Someone hacks into your bank account or gets your SSN, that’s personally catastrophic but collectively not all that damaging. The problem is fixable.

Someone hacks into voting machines, that changes the outcomes of elections, changes the course of public/foreign policy, changes the granting of gov’t contracts, changes a whole host of issues that go well beyond just one person.

gulch
gulch

I am going to say this again. You would have your ballot stored locally on your phone and encrypted. That would make detecting a hack and correcting it easy and automatic. Whereas doing so now using our current systems is impossible. The official ballot would be deleted from your phone immediately after the election. An unofficial ballot could be stored as long as you want to preserve your voting history for your own purposes if you choose (or be provided to pollsters, data miners etc.) We (often blindly) support technology for everything but voting. Curious. Self-driving cars that could kill… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

That would make detecting a hack and correcting it easy and automatic. No. Storing the backup with the voter then requires the voter to both 1) know about a hack and 2) take affirmative steps to notify the appropriate authorities. #2 raises a whole bunch of questions. If your vote is hacked, who do you tell? Local police? GBI? FBI? Local elections board? Secretary of State’s office? US Attorney’s office? Whereas doing so now using our current systems is impossible. That’s not even remotely close to being true. Self-driving cars that could kill and main [sic] you and countless others… Read more »

NoParty4Me
NoParty4Me

Thanks for the label…NOT. Since you love labels, here’s one for you: “New troll on the block.” I’m not stupid enough to files taxes do other highly personal business online. I never made the assertion that voting alone was vulnerable. We weren’t discussing those other online systems.

Will Durant
Will Durant

You guys are being punked or gulch is just ignorant of the history of “unbreakable” codes and the need for proven accountability to the voters. I think we should start with a system requiring a unique bar code tattoo in the middle of everyone’s forehead… or a butt load of black and white marbles… or Lots of thumb dipping ink… Or, if we adopt his plan, a billion monkeys, a billion keyboards, and some quantum computing power.

chefdavid
chefdavid
alpha male
alpha male

Goes to show how much important McConnell’s plan to stack the judiciary our way really is.

Stacey Abrams is an abject joke. And the entire state needs to remember this stunt and her efforts to flat out steal this election if she ever offers for public office again.

gulch
gulch

I reject that talk. When Republican presidents nominate judges that generally reflect a conservative legal worldview they are “stacking the judiciary their way.” But when Obama, Carter, Clinton etc. make every single appointee an ideological clone of Ruth Bader Ginsberg, Elena Kagan and Sonia Sotomayer that is just business as usual? When was the last time the Democrats installed their version of a David Souter? You would have to go back to when Byron Whizzer White turned out to be SLIGHTLY more conservative than John Kennedy wanted.

Benevolus
Benevolus

Or it could be that Kagan, et. al are the new mainstream.
The world does change.
Whizzer White is dead. Women deserve equal pay. We’ve landed a device onto a comet.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Intentionally stalling and blocking Obama judicial nominees in order to create a large number of judicial vacancies for a potential Republican President is the textbook definition of “stacking the judiciary.”

Also, speaking as an attorney and someone who does a fair amount of appellate (but not SCOTUS, yet) work…

Kagan, Sotomayor, and Ginsburg are much closer to being ideological “moderates” than Thomas or Scalia (or Alito, given the way his decisions have gone lately)

Ellynn
Ellynn

The Dems tried.

“Judge Garland’s record demonstrates that he is essentially the model, neutral judge. He is acknowledged by all to be brilliant. His opinions avoid unnecessary, sweeping pronouncements”

http://www.scotusblog.com/2010/04/the-potential-nomination-of-merrick-garland/

Sen. Hatch even dared Obama to Nominate him in 2016.

Noway2016
Noway2016

LMAO!!!! Three dozen??? Any bets on whether the 36 schmeckle’s were smart enough to get a hefty retainer? Doubtful! More suit to be filed later against Stacey for non-payment!! This keeps getting better and better!
https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/homenews/campaign/417074-abrams-legal-team-preparing-unprecedented-challenge-in-ga-governors-race%3famp

Ellynn
Ellynn

This aged well…

Eye roll….

Ellynn
Ellynn

Wait… I’m partly wrong here. This did age well, but it still earns an eye roll…

bethebalance
bethebalance

I’m just wondering if Noway’s use of Yiddish to describe lawyers is either a conscious or unconscious bias or stereotype.

alpha male
alpha male

And in other news, that gulping sound you just heard was Christine Blasey Ford and her attorneys swallowing hard when they just heard the news that Grassley indeed is leaving the chairmanship of judiciary and one Sen. Graham will take over.

Remember that FBI investigation these jokers wanted? Don’t be a bit surprised if they now belatedly get one. Only the subject of said investigation will not be Brett Kavanaugh.

Bring it on Lindsey!

Noway2016
Noway2016

Be still my heart!!!! Lololololol!!!

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Cool, because Congressional investigations launched by South Carolinians with bad accents always wind up producing substantive findings of wrongdoing. See, for example, the 800 different Benghazi investigations.

Sally Forth
Sally Forth

Absolutely! Graham will shine sunlight on all the wrongdoing under the Obama administration’s FBI. And while he’s at it, turn that light on Holder, Lynch, and minions at the DOJ. It oughta produce a lot of perp walks.

xdog
xdog

Screenwriter William Goldman has died at 87.
Link.

Link.

Ellynn
Ellynn

One of the greatest lines he ever wrote.

Ellynn
Ellynn

It kind of reassuring in a very strange and eye rolling way that I can leave you boys on your own for 36 hours, and you are all exactly the same.

Ellynn
Ellynn

While driving 500+ miles around the eastern half of Georgia, I listen to this podcast…

https://www.yahoo.com/news/george-conway-republican-party-become-personality-cult-trump-130234835.html

It is a fascinating listen.

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

I’d meant to chime in that I fully support Pelosi for speakers. Proven and experienced leadership sharp on marshalling the caucus, and battle tested and strong in the face of adversity.

Contrast her with Boehner for whom the job was too much, or the feckless nothingburger named Paul Ryan.

Besides, at this point in Pelosi’s career, why put up someone new and good for Trumpers to trash?

bethebalance
bethebalance

If you’re not a fan of the Amazon bidding war or other tax-expenditure economic development policies:
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/11/amazons-hq2-spectacle-should-be-illegal/575539/

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

From the Post: “The CIA has concluded that Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman ordered the assassination of journalist Jamal Khashoggi in Istanbul last month, contradicting the Saudi government’s claims that he was not involved in the killing, according to people familiar with the matter. The CIA’s assessment, in which officials have said they have high confidence, is the most definitive to date linking Mohammed to the operation and complicates the Trump administration’s efforts to preserve its relationship with a close ally.” But hey, Jared needed the money. The veracity of the sixth Saudi story of events is that Khashoggi’s… Read more »

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

We gotta give Crown Prince MBS the benefit of the doubt since MBS has not been found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, am I right? Just like it was proven in court that MBS took the Lebanese PM into custody and compelled him to publicly announce his resignation as PM, so there’s precedent. The WH has said Trump will be making an announcement on the matter Tuesday. I figure no announcement, announcing there will be an announcment sometime in future, or no MBS sanctions based on the above reasoniing have it covered with high confidence which I’ll tab at 96%,… Read more »

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

Thousands of US military have been deployed through the holidays as ICE agent stunt doubles to repulse the imminent caravan invasion. Merry Christmas, soldiers. It’s a Donald J. Trump gift to you and your families.

Noway2016
Noway2016

I have worked many a Thanksgiving and Christmas in service to my country and never once bellyached about it. Just stop!

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

What’s your point? This is in service of Trump.

bethebalance
bethebalance

Correction: In service to Trump’s political decisions- as opposed to true national security needs.

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

Trump’s political decisions and national security needs are one and the same in his mind and the minds of his followers.

Noway2016
Noway2016

No it means just what I said. The soldiers on the border are there because they are needed there whether it be holidays or not. Quit complaining about it. You’re the only one bothered by it.

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

Trump’s political decisions and national security needs are one and the same in his mind and the minds of his followers.

Will Durant
Will Durant

The soldiers are not allowed to publicly complain about it, but Dave is far from being the only one bothered by it. Thousands of wives, husbands, kids, and extended family are definitely bothered by it, mine included. And yes, sacrificing to actually defend our country is what they signed up for, but this isn’t that, not by a mile. They are simply cast as bit players in a political kabuki theater piece. Even though the role they are cast in is outside of their core competencies and is borderline illegal.

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

This comment is being placed here instead of one of the Abrams’ posts because I don’t want to get on the wrong side of the new sheriff. Sheriff is a tough enough job as it is.

“[T]hey remind me that there’s a lot of liberal folks in those other schools who maybe we don’t want to vote. Maybe we want to make it just a little more difficult. And I think that’s a great idea.” Runoff GOP candidate for US Senator from MS, fresh off her comment about public hangings.

Noway2016
Noway2016
Noway2016
Noway2016

Nelson concedes!!! No thefts in FL!! Browsed election chief needs to be prosecuted for her illegal actions! Thanks to TGM for sending in his election lawyers!! He’s continuing to save this country!!