Morning Reads for November 12, 2018

Today is Veterans Day Observed. We are grateful for the service of the men and women across our nation who have given up their days so that we can enjoy ours.

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Noway2016
Noway2016

Thanks for the Tucker story. Calling his daughter “a whore.” What say you, Libs?!

NoParty4Me
NoParty4Me

Horseface.

Noway2016
Noway2016

I figured. You all think there’s an equivalence to calling a young girl a whore? You’re pathetic.

Enjoy the Silence
Enjoy the Silence

(a) This guy denies ever calling her a whore and there is no evidence other than Tucker’s own statement that such happened.

(b) She is an adult as is Stormy Daniels, so the equivalence is not just a thought, it is a reality.

(c) This list is a little old, but you should be able to get the point, if you really want to go down the false equivalence angle: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/01/28/upshot/donald-trump-twitter-insults.html

bethebalance
bethebalance

From what I read, the dude who got assaulted said that he said to Carlson’s daughter that he couldn’t believe she was having dinner with him. Regardless of what was said, Carlson should know that he is a public figure who could come face-to-face with people (with all sorts of opinions) if he is out in public. And his kids need to know that too. Doesn’t make any comment directed to his daughter or other companions appropriate. I believe that should be off-limits. But his response? I understand the emotionality of defending a daughter. But he is a public figure,… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

It’s really simple. If you don’t want to be treated like you’re the preppy face of white nationalism… don’t host a nightly television show where you act like the preppy face of white nationalism.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

I’d say take Carlson’s version with a grain of salt. Dude is a pretty well-documented liar.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Por ejemplo: It looks like the Carlson cried wolf on the mob of would-be home invaders

https://twitter.com/DrRJKavanagh/status/1061484728652570624

Raleigh
Raleigh

I have no idea what exactly happened at Mr. Carlson’s House. That said If you show up at my home dressed all in black and covering your face I am going to assume you are not there to ask for assistance. I can assure you will not like my response. If you do it while I’m away and just my wife and children are home, you will like her response even less. Once you leave the public street and venture onto private property all beats are off.

Benevolus
Benevolus

Jeezus. Halloween at your house must be… interesting.

Raleigh
Raleigh

Generally Benevolus when children show up at my door on the evening of 10-31 the proper greeting is usually trick or treat.. I think it’s a little different don’t you? We maybe you don’t.

Benevolus
Benevolus

You are awfully trusting. Bad guys use children as an excuse to cause trouble all the time. I have a friend who went to Rome and someone actually threw a baby at him while another person tried to pick his pocket.
You should stay locked and loaded and ever vigilant. Don’t trust anybody. Be strong! Shoot first and ask questions later.

By the way, what if they “show up at my home dressed all in pink and covering your face.” Is that sinister enough for an unpleasant response?

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

From the police report, it seems that folks were gathered in a public right of way. In case those words are confusing to you, a “public right of way” means anyone is free to gather there. The protesters were so committed to doing this “the right way” that they brought 4 legal observers. Now, I don’t know about you, but if I’m going to commit criminal trespass or assault, I usually don’t bring legal observers along. No one ran from the cops. There were no mass arrests. There was no large scale police response like there would have been were… Read more »

Raleigh
Raleigh

What part of “I have no idea what exactly happened at Mr. Carlson’s House. ” did you miss or not want to read? At 99.99999999 percent of homes the stoop directly in front of the door is considered private property. I think you need to be that close to “knock” on the door. You can go protest to your hearts content in the public right of way but when you cross the property line those rules no longer apply. However your response was entirely predictable.

Benevolus
Benevolus

You sound like a very tough guy. It must be comforting. I wish everyone could be as tough as you. Things would be a lot easier.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Since when is knocking on someone’s door and retreating to the right of way considered criminal trespass?

I guess this gives me free reign to take a shotgun to Mormon missionaries or Girl Scouts that knock on my door since the “rules no longer apply” at that point.

Raleigh
Raleigh

Tell me Mr. A. Pope when do Mormons and Girl Scouts dress head to toe in black, cover their face in black, and chant political slogans in the street? Add to that running up an ringing the door bell to get you to come to the door while they are doing it? As I said your response was entirely predictable and pointless.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

I pointed out that the police report contradicts the more outlandish portions of Mr. Carlson’s version. Given Carlson’s well-established reputation for not telling the truth (ex. his story about “gypsys” pooping in the streets) I said folks should take his version of this latest incident with a grain of salt. You elected to reply with some “Mr. Internet tough guy” posturing about how people legally protesting in a public right of way would not “like your response” to their completely valid exercise of their First Amendment rights. I replied – politely – that the law protected their freedom of assembly… Read more »

Sally Forth
Sally Forth

Second request – can you give us a link to the police report? The link you gave was to a NYC legal aid lawyer who says she has a copy of the report and proceeds to post what she says it says. But no link to or copy of the actual police report. At this point, we’re discussing hearsay as if it’s fact.

Sally Forth
Sally Forth

Foul! This is not a link to a police report. It is some legal aid lawyer in NYC says she has a copy of a report and proceeds to give her personal description. Can you give us a link to the actual police report?

FreeDuck
FreeDuck

Is there some evidence that a) his story is truthful and b) it has anything to do with “libs”?

I will say I’m more concerned with the tweeting of his address and having people go to his house. I think Tucker is a bow-tie white supremacist and have no sympathy for him at all, but this kind of thing can only escalate and isn’t good for anyone.

Ellynn
Ellynn

Congress passed a VA bill to expand GI benefits (Great!), but don’t include the funding to update the IT or software to handle the program changes….? And Zip code issues Who went to collage and had an apartment in the same zip code?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/veterans-haven-t-receive-gi-bill-benefits-months-due-ongoing-n934696

bethebalance
bethebalance

I think it likely that the Judge on that lawsuit extends the certification deadline another day as requested.
But I think the Judge rejects the part that “seeks relief for voters whose provisional ballots were rejected in Gwinnett and Dekalb counties…because they are registered in a different county”.
The Complaint actually requests that all counties (not just DeKalb and Gwinnett) treat those provisional ballots that way. But it still seems an adjustment which can’t be made without a thorough legal proceeding and plenty of time. Time which is not available.

chefdavid
chefdavid

Trying to buy ads before the current election is even certified. https://dailycaller.com/2018/11/10/stacey-abrams-run-off-campaign-ad/

Ellynn
Ellynn

The amount of soy my cousin’s farm in Wisconsin (where my grandmother grew up) was sold and some was covered under insurance when a tornadoes went through (which also removed them from the USGA bail out). They has a manageable lost. My more distant 4th cousins in Iowa (who trade cow stock for breading with my direct cousins) are holding their soy as mentioned in this article. This is a huge gamble. if they are on the losing side, they will not meet the payments for the loans that have secondary lands as collateral.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-11-12/frozen-out-of-china-american-farmers-refuse-to-sell-their-soy

Ellynn
Ellynn

RIP Stan Lee (you know the editorial page cartoons on this will be epic)

https://people.com/movies/stan-lee-comic-book-legend-dies/

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

The race has been called out in Arizona, Sinema def. McSally.

As of right now the “red wave” consists of a net gain of 2 Senate seats in an election where Democrats were defending 10 races in states Trump won.

Truly historic.

Ellynn
Ellynn

As a side note, Hyde-Smith is doing her best to lose in the Mississippi special senate election

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Just Googled it. I’d ask how someone could be that monumentally stupid but the phrase “Senator from Mississippi” pretty much gives me the answer.

Edit: No, that isn’t a shot at Republicans. I’m attempting to imply that everyone from Mississippi is a moron.

Noway2016
Noway2016

You’re correct. My side didn’t do well. Now…The Repubs have to try and find a strategy to win those folks back in two years. Trump will just have to continue to keep his promises, work with Dems on programs that are good for America and if that Dem cooperation isn’t forrthcoming…well…he’s got a phone and a pen!

Enjoy the Silence
Enjoy the Silence

NoWay, I am curious as to your thoughts on this: https://www.npr.org/2018/11/12/665635832/democrats-say-their-first-bill-will-focus-on-strengthening-democracy-at-home?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=politics&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=2041

Do you think any of those ideas are something that both sides of the aisle could get on board with?

Sally Forth
Sally Forth

Hey Noway! Don’t let the spin doctors get to you. Repubs lost the House majority, but by far fewer seats than usual in a president’s first midterm. Plus picked up seats in the Senate, which is usually unheard of. No matter how much end zone dancing by the Dems, the Senate and the White House are still a comfortable Red. Remember that Reagan had a Dem House all 8 years, never had Repub. He just let the government shut down 5 times and got his agenda done, became a beloved prez. And unless ACP can give us a factual link… Read more »

Noway2016
Noway2016

You da man!!

Sally Forth
Sally Forth

Called by whom? Everything I see online says it’s still too close to call. ‘Got a link?

Noway2016
Noway2016
Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

I really love saying “I told you so.” Looks like Cheeto Mussolini got played:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/12/us/politics/north-korea-missile-bases.html

Gregs
Gregs
Noway2016
Noway2016

What do Libs hope to accomplish by CNN’s suit of White House?

NoParty4Me
NoParty4Me

Here we go, back to “libs” again. (tired sigh)

Ellynn
Ellynn

The “libs” are not planning on suing the White House. A reporter and possible his network would be the ones doing the suing.

Noway2016
Noway2016

And what do they hope to accomplish by said suit?

Noway2016
Noway2016

What do White House correspondents and Cabinet Members have in common? They all serve at the pleasure of Donald Trump!! Ouch! Lol!

Sally Forth
Sally Forth

A Veterans Day personal contemplation in light of all the blather: For all the Yankees who care nothing and know little or nothing about the War of Northern Aggression, on this day in history General William Tecumseh Sherman ordered the destruction of railroad and telegraph lines between Atlanta and Northwest Georgia in 1864. He was preparing to change modern warfare by attacking civilians, and to steal and destroy as he deemed fit. (Sort of a throwback to Attila the Hun). His Union troops March to the Sea introduced unknown barbarism to American soil. http://www.georgiaencyclopedia.org/articles/history-archaeology/shermans-march-sea On Veterans Day it bears acknowledging… Read more »

bethebalance
bethebalance

I have respect for all vets.
Do you have respect for the veterans who fought for the Union?

Enjoy the Silence
Enjoy the Silence

I don’t have any respect for Confederate vets. They were fighting to preserve slavery and were traitors to their country.

Benevolus
Benevolus

Some were. Others were just trying to defend their families.

Sally Forth
Sally Forth

Faulty thinking. All wars have their propaganda, and slavery was used convincingly for that by the North. The economy, state sovereignty, pride, and protection of loved ones from oncoming disaster were the overriding reasons males from young boys to old men fought back.

bethebalance
bethebalance

So, applying the same logic, you would correspondingly respect the causes of Union soldiers if they in fact fought in order to end slavery, or maintain the UNITED States?

Sally Forth
Sally Forth

Being Southern for generations, with great-grandparents who lived through the Civil War as children, I have direct knowledge of what their parents’ motivations were. I have no such connection to attacking soldiers, but since the war did not take place on Northern soil, it’s clear they were not protecting their homes and families. I can only surmise that nothing but military orders would force them to slaughter people in other states, no matter what differences of political opinion existed.

bethebalance
bethebalance

So that’s where you have room to grow, on several fronts. First, plenty of the war took place within “Northern” territory, a/k/a “U.S.” territory. Not only with many many bloody battles, but also within the homes of every family of every soldier (every veteran). As is the case with every soldier and vet. And just because the Confederacy didn’t make it up to New Hampshire (at least I don’t think they did), doesn’t mean that Union soldiers weren’t defending their homes, their way of life. Second, you surmising that they had no cause they believed in is just superficial. Of… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

All wars have their propaganda, and slavery was used convincingly for that by the North. Except, you know, the fact that the seceding states all explicitly said they were seceding to protect the institution of slavery. Georgia’s secession ordinance clearly lists slavery as the reason they’re seceding. Alexander Stephens have a whole big speech on how the Confederacy was based on the institutionalization of slavery. Your great great grandparents may have fought for a reason other than slavery but that’s because the “propaganda” was coming from a bunch of soft-palmed rich dudes who didn’t want to get their hands dirty… Read more »

Sally Forth
Sally Forth

Yes. They were just following orders.

bethebalance
bethebalance

That’s faulty logic. Because I don’t honor Nazi vets because they were just following orders. Nor should anyone bestow such hollow “honor”. Granted, soldiers weren’t held personally legally accountable for war crimes until after WWII. But true honor is bestowed through respect for the cause and actions of the vets. So, in order to truly honor the Northern vets, you’d have to believe that they believed that they were also fighting for a cause they believed in. And that the cause they believed in had some respectable worth. It doesn’t sound like you’re there yet. By the sound of it,… Read more »

bethebalance
bethebalance

The sad sad part of this is that these kids probably believed in the cause of the ones who gave the orders. http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/school-considers-legal-action-after-dozens-of-students-appear-to-give-nazi-salute-at-prom/ar-BBPCyI2?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=DELLDHP17 The optimism in me also sees that there are at least a few kids who had the sense and true knowledge of honor not to raise their arms and follow the “orders” of the majority. The relevant part as pertaining to this thread is that just “following orders” is not worthy of respect of honor. True honor arises from belief in the causes of the soldiers, even though each soldier may have varied causes. You find the… Read more »

Gregs
Gregs

National treason day is celebrated on April 22nd. Why dishonor true heroes by lumping them with losers who comitted treason? It is the reason we don’t have a celebration for Hitler, he’s a monster and he lost.

Sally Forth
Sally Forth

Faulty thinking.

chamblee54
chamblee54

The War Between the States is poorly understood. Thank you for this commentary.
There were two great fires in Atlanta in 1864. In September, the Confederate soldiers were leaving Atlanta. Anything that could be of value to the Union Army was destroyed. This was the fire in Gone With The Wind. A second fire was set in November, by the Union Army, before leaving on the March to the Sea.

Gregs
Gregs

Today was set aside to honor veterans who sought to protect the country. Why mar today with a divisive discussion about a cause many believe to be treasonous? Nothing is sacred, nothing deserves respect. This is MAGA!