Morning Reads — Thursday, November 8, 2018

On this date in 1889, Montana became the 41st U.S.. Chances are, not too many people noticed.

Peaches

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xdog
xdog

40,000 yo cave art is exciting but it’s not the 400,000 advertised.

xdog
xdog

Georgia Southern is filling a need in making a personal finance course available to HS students. I’ve met kids in their mid-20s with college degrees who think revenue = income, who don’t have a clue about compound interest, who think borrowing is OK and repaying debt optional. The earlier that ignorance can be addressed the better.

Ellynn
Ellynn

This is a great program. My only criticism is the schools listed getting the program are either located in areas of Chatham and Effingham Counties with higher then average income families, or in specialized schools that have higher then normal math scores. (One is an all boys school, why is the all girls school not on the list?) Why not have at least one of the programs at Savannah High School, Beach or Effingham County High School? The last 2 women I mentored had no clue how to set up a budget or do basic banking – because their parents… Read more »

xdog
xdog

High income schools get more opportunity. High math scores get the finance intro. That’s the way the world works.

Generally speaking I’d say boys are much less practical than girls, not that girls shouldn’t have a shot at the course work. There’s probably some of the ‘girls don’t do numbers well’ thinking going on too.

Noway2016
Noway2016

I wonder when Jim “Accost-Her” get his press pass back? How long until he apologizes to the young intern?
https://deadline.com/2018/11/jim-acosta-press-credential-pulled-donald-trump-white-house-1202498131/

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

I’m not clear on why Acosta needs to apologize to this intern for the President’s – ahem – “shortcomings.”

davidmac
davidmac

Why should he apologize to her, when she tried to grab the mic from him, unprovoked?
Acosta was gesticulating, and accidentally hit her arm and even apologized in the moment.
Then the Press Secretary released a video that had been edited by Infowars that mis-characterized (“fake news”) the contact.

shakes head sadly

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

If Acosta had grabbed her by the p—-y, Trump likely would have approved. After all, “when you’re famous, they let you do it.”

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Why anyone defends Acosta is beyond me. It looks like there are 100 people in the press conference and everyone of them is respectful and this guy acts like an arrogant ass with no respect whatsoever for the presidency.

Could you imagine this idiot doing this to Obama? He wouldn’t have a job anywhere today.

This is no attack on the press that he liars at CNN are trying to gin up. It’s a rebuke to a rude SOB.

davidmac
davidmac

One need not defend Acosta to point out the cavalcade of lies coming from the administration, and that the justification for their actions is fraudulent.

Enjoy the Silence
Enjoy the Silence

So you don’t like your press being aggressive in tone, but you are ok with your President being aggressive in tone?

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Could you imagine this idiot doing this to Obama?

Yes. Because he did. You realize Jim Acosta is a pretty experienced journalist, right?

Obama got pissy with the press, too. But Obama did a better job of keeping it together than ol’ Quaalude Don over here.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Show us a clip where Acosta was this rude to Obama. CNN’s fawning coverage of Obama was sickening.

xdog
xdog

You do know your new favorite DoJ heart-throb Michael Whitaker drew a CNN paycheck as late as last year. Don’t you? How do you fit that in your black and white world?

Noway2016
Noway2016

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chefdavid
chefdavid

President Trump’s unprecedented media access reveals just how important transparency is to this Administration’s success. During today’s press conference, President Trump took 68 questions—from 35 different reporters. By contrast, former President Obama took 22 questions from 10 reporters during his press conference following the 2010 midterm elections. CBS’ Major Garrett put it crisply: “There is more access to this president than Obama . . . We see him and interact with him and punch in questions with far more frequency.” ABC News Political Director Rick Klein agrees, saying President Trump is “above and beyond, far and away more accessible” than… Read more »

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

If Acosta had only body-slammed that WH intern instead of merely brushing her hand away and holding onto the microphone, Trump would have praised him as “my kind of guy,” and “a great guy, tough cookie.”

Noway2016
Noway2016

All is not lost for CNN. Trump can fax over a news summary at the end of the day.

Ellynn
Ellynn

Or Noway, one of the other CNN WH correspondents who still has is secret service hard pass for the grounds can take his place in the assigned CNN rotation. Most new services major services have 3-4 reporter in their coverage pool.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

DD – point of order

Noway is linking to a doctored video. (cite) He is, quite literally, spreading “fake news.” Is there any way to delete his post?

TheDeepDark
TheDeepDark

You know you can just post under it “This is not real” and get on with your life, right? Were you the kid in school that tattled on everyone?

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

https://twitter.com/jamiedupree/status/1060518917934854144

Karen Handel has officially conceded. In the immortal words of Curly Bill: “well… bye”

Noway2016
Noway2016

I’ll bet Ossoff is wishing he’d jumped in!

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Uh oh, Ginsberg fell in court and broke some ribs…I certainly wish her no ill will at all in all seriousness… But it might be fun to watch the meltdown if Trump gets another Supreme Court pick soon!

The Libs better go out and try to find more fake victims and dream up more crap… They’ve worn out about every possible deviancy so far after borking Bork, borking Clarence Thomas and borking Kavanaugh…

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

“I wish her no ill will but it would be fun if she died so we could own the libs.” – downthemiddle

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Andrew that is your sick mind not mine!!

But listening to libs snivel is pretty fun and it’s an almost nonstop spectacle! Those historic wins in the Senate may come in handy after all.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

I’m literally summarizing your post… on the one hand you wish Ginsburg well but on the other you think it would be “pretty fun” if she died and a court vacancy opened.

Those positions seem pretty at odds with one another.

TheDeepDark
TheDeepDark

A justice can step down, they don’t have to die to leave. Drop it, both of you.

Noway2016
Noway2016

DD, do making up fake quotes that are then attributed to one of your site’s posters ok?

TheDeepDark
TheDeepDark

No. You and ACP need to cool it.

ACP, that’s not what DTM said, and you know it. What good does it do to the discussion posting something like that?

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

DTM contributes nothing of substance, repeats the same tired posts over and over again, exists solely to antagonize others, and – if we’re being honest – his shtick is a bit derivative. The 2-3 days this jamoke was in moderation jail were 2-3 days where the Morning Reads weren’t a complete turd sandwich. I’ll drop it, but the point of my post is to draw attention to the absurdity and nonsense that is inherent to everything DTM does. Get mad at me, ban me, whatever. But if you’re looking for the reason why this place has dissolved into vitriol it… Read more »

TheDeepDark
TheDeepDark

…and continues with your poking of DTM when you could just let it go.

If you don’t like it, ignore it. Your job isn’t to respond to everything you find wrong/offensive/whatever. You aren’t tied to each other, and you don’t have to interact with each other.

If It’s something I need to take care of, I will.

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

Gee, DTM, that was a relevant and insightful response to the comment that Ossoff is wishing he’d ran in CD-6.

Recent election – check
Campaign – check
Branch of government – check
Fake victims – check
Deviancy – check

Noway2016
Noway2016

If he had run again, in this political climate, in my opinion, he would now be the Congressman-Elect. And I’ll bet, like any human being who realizes a Chance-Missed, he is swearing a little bit under his breath.

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

Your comment, Noway, was on subject. McBath’s campaign was much more direct in advocating gun control and in opposing Trump. Tough to say how having lost, and either keeping the campaign style he previously employed or changing it from what he had used would have fared.

TheDeepDark
TheDeepDark

Also, DTM… this has nothing to do with the thread. It should be its own thread.

Either this was a mistake and you posted it in the wrong place, or you were being an ass. Which is it?

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

I am pleading ignorance here! What was posted in the wrong place? The Ginsberg story? Where should I post something like that?

If there is news item right now, where should anyone post it?

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

If I heard that there is a potential new AG… is that a new thread? If so, where do you start a new thread?.

Ellynn
Ellynn

Go waaaaayyyy back to the top of the comment section. It has a nice new shiny comment box just waiting for you…

Lawton Sack
Lawton Sack

You posted it as a reply to Rep. Karen Handel conceding. You should have started another comment thread.

TheDeepDark
TheDeepDark

You create a comment to main article, not someone’s comment…

Lawton Sack
Lawton Sack

I actually think McBath’s low key approach was better suited than all the attention Ossoff would have drawn to the race. I think the GOP got lulled into thinking this was a safe race.

Gregs
Gregs

In my opinion this race was not about Handel or McBath. This race was about Trump. The republicans in this district are not the MAGA crowd. I think McBath is ripe for the pickin in 2020.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

2020 is going to be about Trump, too. Except this time he’ll actually be on the ballot. If I’m at the NRCC I’m really worried about the party’s performance in suburban areas, particularly in Georgia, Texas, Minnesota, and California.

Gregs
Gregs

Two years is a lifetime. Prediction: Trump won’t run again,

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

We saw back in ’16 that GA-6 wasn’t particularly hospitable to Trump. I think the strategy of sitting back and riding Abrams’ coattails was the obviously the correct one.

I had a feeling alarm bells were ringing in the Handel camp when she started attacking McBath on the homestead stuff.

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

On Trump’s tax returns….”Upon written request from the chairman of the Committee on Ways and Means of the House of Representatives…the secretary of the Treasury shall furnish such committee with any return or return information specified in such request.” 26 USC 6103(f)(1), or as Noway and DTM will crow after the Committee receives Trump’s returns, another Trump promise kept.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Trump’s tax return…okay waste 2 years going over that…then what? How does that help the average American? Why do you think he has hired a battery of top tax attorneys and CPAs ?

Why don’t they find out why a fake dossier paid for by Hillary was used to spy on the opposition, lie to FISA courts and have multiple levels of government COLLUDE to spread lies, try to frame and ruin the opposition?

Noway2016
Noway2016

That’s exactly what Trump’s new AG will do on Day One after he/she is confirmed. And them +3 new Senators (including Rick Scott once Nelson’s tantrum is over) will help greatly!!!! Thanks, Diane! LMAO!

Gregs
Gregs

Because we need to know if his decisions are colored by his financial entanglements. Why would anyone be against transparent, open government?

Noway2016
Noway2016
chefdavid
chefdavid

This is part of the promise the democrats made to return to civility after the elections were over.

Ellynn
Ellynn

They stepped off the public right of way and started breaking up the front of the building. All actual crimes. Tucker will have camera’s. They will be arresting them.

NoParty4Me
NoParty4Me

“They were paid protestors to make Democrats look bad!” (laughs hysterically, because we have to hear stupid things like this everyday). Humor. ‘kay?

Noway2016
Noway2016

Shouldn’t Rosenstein have been the go-to guy since Sessions resigned? How is it that the Sessions’ Chief of Staff now has the reigns? Where is that individual in the Chain of Command?

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

puts on DOJ hat That’s actually a really good question. You’re correct that Rosenstein is the 2nd in command at DOJ, however this isn’t a chain of command issue. Under the Federal Vacancies Reform Act, when a Senate-confirmed officer “dies, resigns, or is otherwise unable to perform the functions and duties of the office” the President can designate an officer or employee of the agency to perform in an acting capacity for up to 210 days. My guess is that Trump chose Whitaker because of the fact that – as Sessions’ Chief of Staff – he had the best handle… Read more »

davidmac
davidmac

See my response as well; my guess is that he chose Whitaker for solely political reasons, he doesn’t like Rosenstein, and that Steven Miller put Whitaker’s name in front of Trump’s pen.

Benevolus
Benevolus

So I take that to mean that Trump thinks the Mueller thing will be resolved within 210 days.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

No, I take it that he wants to get this new Senate seated before putting a nominee out there for appointment.

davidmac
davidmac

A great question, with a long answer. Please read it all the way through. The Federal Vacancies Reform Act of 1998 allows the following people to be chosen as an Acting Officer: (a) the first assistant to the Officer (b) a Senate-confirmed appointed officer of another Executive Agency, or (c) an officer or employee of the same agency that has been in the agency for >90d and is paid at GS-15 or better. Whitaker falls under (c). HOWEVER. 28 USC 508 reads: (a) In case of a vacancy in the office of Attorney General, or of his absence or disability,… Read more »

davidmac
davidmac

(self-reply, because edit timed out:)
The above is my analysis. Here is an even longer analysis (not mine):

Will Durant
Will Durant

Actually if you read the President’s most hated rag they pointed out a month ago that the President had already approached Whitaker while Sessions’ body was still warm. No doubt because of his exhibitions in the press to see justice served in the Russia probe: [/sarc]
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-talked-with-jeff-sessionss-own-chief-of-staff-about-replacing-him-as-attorney-general/2018/10/10/e010211c-ccc5-11e8-a3e6-44daa3d35ede_story.html

Obstruction, would a turd by any other name smell as bad?

Will Durant
Will Durant

“How is it that the Sessions’ Chief of Staff now has the reigns?” If you believe the NYT opinion piece linked by Ellynn and written by Mr. Kellyanne and another lawyer he can’t constitutionally: Trump’s Appointment of the Acting Attorney General Is Unconstitutional The president is evading the requirement to seek the Senate’s advice and consent for the nation’s chief law enforcement officer and the person who will oversee the Mueller investigation. By Neal K. Katyal and George T. Conway III We cannot tolerate such an evasion of the Constitution’s very explicit, textually precise design. Senate confirmation exists for a… Read more »

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

Tuesday was a decent night, but as happy as it could have been because of disappointment in the bigotry and proud ignorance of so many Americans. Yeah Kobach lost, but not by much. You’re kidding yourself if you think the views of hardly any Trumpers can be influenced by conversation, fact-checks, or charismatic young Democratic candidates. They’re reactionary, ignorant, vindictive and revel in it, and will vote for horrible candidates to prove it. That Tuesday night feeling now comes to mind every time someone tells me that the key to moving forward is decorum and reaching across the aisle. I’m… Read more »

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Dave, it sounds like you are describing liberals today. Reactionary, vindictive…sound about right? Everyone they disagree with is a bad name…there is a ton of calling the kettle black don’t you think?

I hope you watch the Kavanaugh hearings…. Just walk down the street with a Kanye hat….

Benevolus
Benevolus

Yep. I think we have passed the tipping point. No one is going to be the first to back down now. Both sides feel like they are fighting for their very lives. It’s going to be a street fight for years to come. I having been telling people for years now that as long as we have elections we have a chance to make corrections. But the electoral process is so obviously messed up now that even that is not a fail safe. That was the last hope. Fascism is here. “Democrats won roughly 50 percent of the vote in… Read more »

Gregs
Gregs

For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. Trump was the backlash against America’s first black president. There will be an equal and opposite reaction to Trump’s extreme governance.

It’s not as bad as you make it out to be, America survived a very bloody civil war accompanied by the assasination of a sitting president. Hamilton and Burr fought a duel to the death. The sixties saw several political assasinations, a war and civil up heaval. But….we survived!

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Gregs, Trump was not the reaction to the first BLACK president. It was a reaction to the country’s most radical liberal president in history. Remember Herman Cain was leading the republican polls before he was taken out by the press. I had a sticker on my car that said Honkees for Herman! Herman LOVED those stickers. Ask him!

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Hamilton and Burr had less to do with national political mood and more to do with longstanding personal animus and Hamilton’s scuttling of Burr’s ambitions in New York government.

Benevolus
Benevolus

That may be true in physics, but not in politics, or ethics, or sociology.
If that were the case, there would be no hope for justice or equality ever advancing.

Mandela said no man is born hating another person, they must be taught. But in this country, the hate has taken root and I think it will be a long time before it is unlearned.

edit: Just to add- It’s been 150 years since the Civil War and some aren’t over it yet. But now we have a whole ‘nother realm of hate that has been sanctioned, and apparently is pretty widely accepted.

Gregs
Gregs

The things you’re complaining about have always been true. People have hated since the beginning of time and they’re not going to stop until (depending on what you believe) the end of the world as we know it. My point is that we can lament or even run away from hate but you really can’t get away from it unless you’re going into isolation and then you’d be there. History ebbs and flows. This time is bad but if you review history its been worse lots of times. This country doesn’t have a “golden age” when everybody loved everybody else.… Read more »

Benevolus
Benevolus

The disturbing thing, though, is how many people respond to that. You would think that after Hitler, after Mussolini, after Stalin, after Joseph McCarthy, after MLK and JFK and RFK, that more people would realize what is happening.

Gregs
Gregs

Yeah, but most of the people alive today didn’t live through those atrocities and they get their news from social media or in the case of Trumps supporters , Fox News, Breitbart, Inforwars, Rush, Ann, Mark and Randy.

His small support group is a lot like ISIS. They say and do outrageous things to prove how big and bad they are but the truth is they feel marginalized by progress and are nostalgic for a day when they ruled and everybody else just went along.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Ben, Gregs y’all might find this Adam Serwer piece interesting: I am not arguing that the Democratic Party or its members are particularly virtuous. A little more than a century ago, it was the Republican Party that was reliant on a diverse coalition of voters, and the Democratic Party that rode white rage to power. Rather, I am saying that when a party’s viability is dependent on a diverse coalition of voters, that party will necessarily stand for pluralism and equal rights, because its survival depends on it. And when a party is not diverse, it will rely on demonizing… Read more »

Gregs
Gregs

Let’s say I’m close to the premise of this article. Remember how republicans were so upset because Obama wouldn’t say Islamic Radicals? Well I asign no virtue to democrats at all, they’re just the only game in town. I do feel we have to call Trump and the trumpets what he says they are “white nationalist” who are nostalagic for Archie Bunker. “Those were the days” by Archie and Edith.

https://www.songfacts.com/lyrics/archie-and-edith-bunker/those-were-the-days-theme-to-all-in-the-family

These days aren’t coming back because we won’t let them. We have to learn to live together or die apart.

Sally Forth
Sally Forth

Guys, don’t fall into the same Democrat and media racial agitprop trap as so many other Americans have. Trump was NOT “backlash against America’s first black president.” All that fallacy does is create animosity among people of color against anybody with white skin. It’s divisive rhetoric at a time when we need unity. Trump was the result of decades of far-leftist people of all colors, including white, running our government into the ground with the help of big-money lobbying groups and wealthy globalists who didn’t put American society first in their actions. Millions of people woke up and realized the… Read more »

NoParty4Me
NoParty4Me

Sally, I agree with some of your point from a perception basis, but have “they” figured out they’ve been scammed and will never get what “they” want?

Sally Forth
Sally Forth

I’m not sure, but I guess they figured it was worth giving a try to maybe get some improvement. Or at least shake up the establishment. After decades of downward spiral, it was pretty clear that what we were doing wasn’t working.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

I have a hard time believe the election of the country’s most prominent promoter of birtherism wasn’t the result of racial resentment of Barack Obama. The whole concept of birtherism – a conspiracy theory Donald Trump proudly peddled to promote his TV shows, books, and political career – was the result of racial animus against the country’s first black President. Sally, it’s interesting to see you speak about how “we need unity” before immediately launching into an attack of people who don’t agree with you politically and spewing some nonsense about how “illegal aliens” could be carrying “communicable diseases.” Maybe… Read more »

Sally Forth
Sally Forth

ACP, it is abundantly clear that you and I will rarely, if ever, agree on anything other than how great surfing is in Hawaii. About the caravans — now the Mexican government says there are 3 of them heading for the US Border, the biggest one now in Mexico City and two others of a few thousand each taking other routes. https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/caravan-migrants-trump-1.4897562 Here’s another article from Time magazine a week or so ago: http://time.com/5430436/migrant-caravan-mexico-guatemala-border/ And I’m sure you can find more coverage if you look for it. I believe it’s conservatively about 10,000 cumulatively now, unknown and unvetted people determined… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

unknown and unvetted people determined to crash the southern border of our country

If by “crash the border” you mean “lawfully seek asylum” a process by which they will become both known and vetted.

NoParty4Me
NoParty4Me

voting a dead pimp into office speaks volumes.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

I’m a little more concerned about voting for the admitted Nazi or the neo-Confederate.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Handel will probably be given an ambassadorship by Trump. Probably a NATO position. Clinton gave the one-term congressman, Don Johnson, who Norwood initially beat, a similar post.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

I’m not so sure. She wasn’t a real ride-or-die type when it came to Trump.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Point taken. Just thinking out loud. The Senate 2020 thing, hmmmm, unsure for Handel. Stacey on the other hand, good Lord. She’s just run a massive statewide effort. Perdue should be literally quaking in his boots at that specter. If she runs against him…she wins. Period.

xdog
xdog

I don’t see it. She’s not a diplomat or a big contributor or a heavy Trump booster or Mrs Newt Gingrich.

The current ambassador to NATO is former Senator-from-Revlon Kay Bailey Hutchinson.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Understand but there are several “ambassador” level positions at NATO. Not just the top-level one. Sub-designated ambassadors. Hey, it’s a title.

chefdavid
chefdavid

Here is a life lesson this UGA democratic ethic employee is teaching the kids. https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=11494

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

OCGA 32-6-51 prohibits placing an “unauthorized structure” in a public right of way. Contrary to what the author says, the statute does not prohibit regular citizens from disposing of signs illegally placed in a right of way. The individual in this article was not doing anything illegal. Furthermore, the 1st Amendment protects her right to post – on her personal social media page – about removing litter from public right of ways. I would note that the author of this piece appears to be affiliated with TPUSA, the group that dresses up in diapers to “own the libs.” Adjust your… Read more »

Benevolus
Benevolus

We’re talking about gerrymandering, mass shootings, AG firings, and freedom of the press, and what trips your trigger is a website editor in the philosophy department at UGA picking up litter.
::shakes head::

Ellynn
Ellynn

I personally pulled down a sign on Monday morning in a public right of way. It was over 3 feet tall and blocked the line of sight looking from my driver side to the roadway for on coming traffic.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

You disgust me! What kind of lesson does that teach our kids? Once they see one person picking up litter, they’re all bound to start doing it.

Ellynn
Ellynn

I didn’t pick it up. I laid it down flat next to posts. It was 3 foot high, maybe over 5 feet long. Didn’t fit in my car. Left the posts up. Sign was gone by Wednesday morning. Posts still there. Whoever put it up made sure you could read it from the road, but completely miss judged the line of sight for left turning traffic.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Florida governor’s race headed to an automated recount.

Florida’s Senate race headed to a hand recount.

chamblee54
chamblee54

Here is a blog post about the voter suppression trope. It is based on a GeorgiaPol comment. https://chamblee54.wordpress.com/2018/11/08/we-were-lied-to/

Benevolus
Benevolus

A rating of hospitals is out.
Piedmont, Emory, Kennestone look good. Grady, not so much.

http://www.hospitalsafetygrade.org/search?findBy=state&zip_code=&city=&state_prov=GA&hospital=

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

https://news.uga.edu/after-100-years-remembering-ugas-fallen/

Very cool piece commemorating 100 years since the end of WWI and the 45 UGA men who lost their lives in the same.

xdog
xdog

Thanks for the link.

Ellynn
Ellynn

Kellyanne’s hubby is not down with her boss’s AG placeholder…

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/08/opinion/trump-attorney-general-sessions-unconstitutional.html

Will Durant
Will Durant

This administration has proven over and again that the Constitution is an obstacle to their governance, not a guide.

davidmac
davidmac

Sinema has taken the lead in AZ-Sen.
Combined with a FL recount, Republicans might only net one Senate seat.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Historic! Red wave!

This is why it’s stupid to try and craft a narrative before the votes are in.

Will Durant
Will Durant

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