Morning Reads for October 29, 2018

We enter the final stretch of the 2018 mid-term elections after an unbelievably horrific series of events from last week.

The lunatic who was mailing bombs to prominent Democrats was captured. Apparently he had “mommy issues.”

A wacko white supremacist killed two African Americans at a Kroger in Louisville, Kentucky “...before an armed bystander reportedly fired back, prompting him to flee. Police were unable to confirm accounts that Bush encountered a second armed man, who engaged him in a brief standoff where no shots were fired… Police apprehended Bush minutes later.”

A vile anti-semite carried out “…the deadliest attack on Jews in U.S. history, killing 11 people inside a Pittsburgh synagogue.” There’s no circle of hell hot enough for that bastard. Or either of the others.

Let’s make this week better, ok?

Peggy Noonan wrote a thought-provoking piece about the need for civility and understanding. Among the better sentences: “…Neither side appreciates—neither side credits—the anxiety the other side legitimately feels. They have no sensitivity to it. They had better get some. …There is too much blindness to how the other side is experiencing the situation. It’s in the news media, too. Politicians should have a greater awareness of their own role in the drama. …Politicians, don’t lecture us. Clean up your own side of the street.”  Worth reading the whole thing.

Here’s a story about a group actively trying to bridge the partisan divide not by winning the argument, but by seeking a goal of “…curiosity and an open heart.

The nation’s eyes are on Georgia, where all polls point to a statistical dead heat between Republican Brian Kemp and Democrat Stacey Abrams, as Don McKee points out in the Marietta Daily Journal. In a base-vs.-base election, with turnout at the national level on track to break the records set in 1966 and 1974, all polls and election models should be taken with a very large of grain of salt.

Celebre-tics: On Friday, comedian Will Ferrell was live and in person, encouraging KSU students to vote for, you guessed it, Stacey Abrams.

It’s Halloween and vampires and zombies are everywhere, but John Barrow promises he “..won’t bite ya.” Huh? Barrow, who usually makes good ads, has opted for one of the strangest closing arguments to voters that has ever been made.

More of this please: “Georgia public-school students improved their performance on the SAT in 2018 and outperformed their counterparts in the nation’s public schools, recording a mean score of 1054 compared to the national mean of 1049.

Sadly, More of this too, please: “State Labor Commissioner Mark Butler said this week that workers in seven more Georgia counties may now be eligible for federal Disaster Unemployment Assistance (DUA) to compensate for income lost as a direct result of Hurricane Michael. The additional affected counties are Calhoun, Clay, Laurens, Randolph, Sumter, Tift, and Turner.”

The Gulch Deal in Atlanta has promise. Details about the complicated development at this link.
Will President Trump Visit South Georgia?  Greg Bluestein seems to think so. “National media outlets reported Trump is set to stump for Kemp in Macon on Sunday, just two days before the Nov. 6 election.”

 

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Indypendant
Indypendant

“Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will… Read more »

armanidog
armanidog

Knock, knock: Who’s there?
“Dishes”
“Dishes, who?”
“Dishes how I talk since I had my teeth pulled”.

VALDOSTA — Construction workers bit off more than they could chew Tuesday when they discovered teeth buried in a building wall.

Workers were readying commercial space at the T.B. Converse Building, located on North Patterson Street in Downtown Valdosta, when they found an estimated 1,000 teeth buried in a second floor wall.
Harry Evans, researcher for the Historical Society, said the Converse Building was constructed in 1900. Its first tenant was Dr. Clarence Whittington, a dentist.

https://www.valdostadailytimes.com/news/local_news/hundreds-of-teeth-found-in-downtown-valdosta-wall/article_2c6a0635-f973-58c2-8e18-949e63e4d9c7.html

Caroline
Caroline

This past week was an absolutely horrific week for our country.

Peggy Noonan can take her same siderism deflections and eat them for lunch. According to her we are supposed to try to understand Neo Nazis. I already understand Neo Nazis and white nationalists and their ilk. They are not hard to understand. I am just not going to be sympathetic to their views. They and their views need to send crawling back under the rocks.

davidmac
davidmac

More worth reading than Noonan is Ioffe:

The pipe-bomb makers and synagogue shooters and racists who mowed a woman down in Charlottesville were never even looking for Trump’s explicit blessing, because they knew the president had allowed bigots like them to go about their business, secure in the knowledge that, like Nemtsov’s killers, they don’t really bother the president, at least not too much. His role is just to set the tone. Their role is to do the rest.

Caroline
Caroline

That’s a great article. Thanks for the link!

Caroline
Caroline

I read that article last night because someone linked to it on twitter. It is so true and I asked my Rep. Barry Loudermilk to take responsiblity for his part in this disaster and pointed out that he refused to condemn the Nazis marching in Charlottesville. I’m sure he will do nothing of the kind. My neighbor across the street is Jewish and I have not talked to her since the massacre. I am trying to think of a kindness I can do for her. This seriously has me heartbroken. I have cried for two days like I did when… Read more »

FreeDuck
FreeDuck

Loudermilk visited my workplace several months ago. He decried the lack of civility then but owned none of it. I believe he is up for re-election…

Noway2016
Noway2016

“I believe he is up for re-election…” No sh*t, Sherlock. As is every single member of the House of Representatives. Your knowledge of civics is dizzying.

Enjoy the Silence
Enjoy the Silence

You know that there are districts without challengers, right?

Caroline
Caroline

He is and I just voted for Flynn Broady Jr. who will represent the entire district not just the far right. Barry will never own up to his part in it. That’s just who he is. I don’t have a lot of hope he will be voted out but I do hope if the GOP loses the house it will relegate him to being not relevant.

Benevolus
Benevolus

“Let’s make this week better, ok?”

OK. What are we going to DO?
Nothing. As usual. This week may be better, but not this month or this year, or next year.

Benevolus
Benevolus

Yes it is a complicated issue. It is difficult. But there are experts who have studied this and can guide us towards an improved outcome. We, as laymen citizens, don’t have to understand all the details, at least not yet. All we have to do is profess our willingness to do something and not keep putting up endless hurdles that prevent anything from getting done.

bethebalance
bethebalance

Welcoming the stranger/ loving your neighbor has always been one of the more difficult commandments to keep. The importance of it, and the difficulty, is why it is repeated a number of times in the Good Book I don’t get how anyone could call themselves a true Jew or Christian if they don’t follow that law, and at least have empathy for folks like those who would seek asylum.

bethebalance
bethebalance

My great-grandparents left Poland and Ukraine around the same time. Running from Russian pogroms. Those who didn’t leave are gone.
One day I’ll make one of those ancestry trips where you reconnect with the old country for a minute.

bethebalance
bethebalance

That sucks.
Yeah, they still got some problems there.
The “Law and Order”- styled party, with its xenophobia, democracy-busting, and Holocaust-revisionism, is doing well.
Maybe I’ll wait a few years.

armanidog
armanidog

I may go to Macon to protest against Trump/Kemp. Anyone else going?
I imagine Noway and DTM are vying for tickets for the event.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Andrew, your comments about the Jewish bombings I totally agree with. Its horrible How in the hell can anyone be that filled with hate in this country is beyond me. You then try to splatter that event on conservatives is where you lose any rationality and its sick. And untrue. This country fought WW2 to get rid of scum like that. There is no place in any party for the stinking Klan or other hate groups. None. And then you follow with the hateful idiocy of saying somehow I love Russia when I am the one for a strong economy,… Read more »

bethebalance
bethebalance

Dude- check yourself.
You say ACP posted ramblings, but it was You who went from zero to CPUSA in 7 sentences.
You say ACP “splattered the event” on conservatives but there was nothing at all like that in his post.
Check yourself.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Go to the CPUSA.org. Its the damn truth. I am not making anything up. You goobers lobbed the Russia stuff. I give you facts. All it is is an anti Trump website sounding virtually identical the DNC platform. You tell me where its different.

Show many anything conservatives are saying that are trying to harm Jews or any group. It aint out there.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

I read it. Try it yourself.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Guess where this cut and paste info came from….yet the CPUSA.org. Communist Party USA Does it sound familiar? I am posting this because apparently no one will bother reading the link and I am being challenged again. I don’t like posting long articles. Don’t miss the Stacy Abrams endorsement and almost every other DNC platform. Totally anti Trump. Election 2018: A guide to united action BY:Joelle Fishman| September 20, 2018 There are just a few weeks before the November 6 election; just a few weeks to put the breaks on the fascist project led by Trump and open the door… Read more »

bethebalance
bethebalance

Is this what you call hate-filled? What gets you so worked up? Good god, are you offended by vanilla ice cream?
If you think that’s even approaching hate, you have NO IDEA what hate is.
Also, no one GAF abt the Communist Party right now.
We were talking abt anti-Semitism and improving civil discourse.
At least the Communists seem to care about civil rights and welcoming the stranger. Where is the Judeo-Christian values in hating the strangers?

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

You Nimrods snivel about the Russian Communists love Trump. My point is you guys sound just like the Communist here in the US! I guess your narrative is ass backwards! As usual!

Oh where are the CHRISTIAN VALUES IN ALL OF THE HATEFUL POSTS DAILY from you and the haters on the blog!! I have never listened to a more hateful group literally in my life. All radical libs. Not the conservatives.

Oops! Gotcha!

Will Durant
Will Durant

This is coming from a “Christian” who has stated on here that God/Jesus helps those who help themselves is scriptural. His one consistency in almost every utterance is his ignorance.

TheDeepDark
TheDeepDark

downthemiddle, what was the point of this comment? You have added nothing constructive to the conversation. Your comments are just as visceral as those by the people you call “idiots” and “nimrods”. If you cannot add to the conversation please refrain from commenting on it. I need a “I understand” or “I don’t understand”.

bethebalance
bethebalance

WTF are you talking abt?
You are no longer DTM to me. You are WTF.
(Because you make no sense.)
Stop whatabouting and focus.

Caroline
Caroline
Indypendant
Indypendant

Deflect, deflect, deflect….radical right wing terrorists vote Republican.

Caroline
Caroline

Melissa Faye Greene posted this. I did not realize it has been 60 years since the bombing of the temple here. I find it incredibly sad that something written 60 years ago is something many people still need to hear in 2018. 60 years ago this month, The Temple in Atlanta was bombed by anti-Semitic white supremacists who believed Jews “masterminded” the Civil Rights movement, just like the Pittsburgh murderer claims Jews “bankroll” the migrant caravan. The next morning, Ralph McGill [1898-1969], publisher of The Atlanta Constitution who’d reported on Hitler’s rise in Europe, published a bitter and still-true editorial:… Read more »

NoParty4Me
NoParty4Me

Thanks. I was looking for this, but you posted it first. Everyone should read this today.

bethebalance
bethebalance

Thanks for posting.
It is simply stunning to see the unfortunate commonalities between then and now.

FreeDuck
FreeDuck

I can’t read Noonan’s op-ed because of the paywall, but I really hope there was some context around the quote provided here, and that she was not suggesting that white supremacist “anxiety” is legitimate. It isn’t. Nobody is coming to kill, rape, or replace white people.

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

“This wicked act of mass murder is pure evil, hard to believe, and frankly, something that is unimaginable,” Trump said of the carnage in the Pittsburgh synagogue. “Evil.” You know, the term Trump also applies to your garden variety fake news journalist and the media, whose fault this is in the first place don’t you know, or Democrats or the Democratic Party. Just so you know how bad, or rather how not so bad, the synagogue shooting was. One thing you can count on after establishment Republicans dismissing Trump’s previous calls to violence as insignificant, Trump being Trump, a joke,… Read more »

Caroline
Caroline

The same siderism votimus from the GOP is beyond disgusting to me. Like interruprting someone eating a meal is the same as massacreing 11 people.

NoParty4Me
NoParty4Me

When elected officials won’t meet constituents face to face with public meetings, answer calls or emails, lie continuously about legislation, lie about their intentions, lie about opponents, lie about what “the other side” is doing, viciously attack “the other side”, completely ignore their constitutional duty, ignore the obvious will of their constituents, completely ignore every shred of civility and ethics in doing your elected duty…then yes, expect people to get in your face because there is no other way to reach them.

Caroline
Caroline

That largely is the crux of the problem. If the GOP forced their reps to actually hold town halls a lot of this finding people in DC eating out would be avoided. Nobody would care because they had been able to voice their concerns to their reps and the reps would have been forced to defend their position or change it.

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

It’s not the same except to the extent that interrupting is wrong too.

Caroline
Caroline

My problem is they are implying that it is the same. That Maxine Waters saying confront your representatives which is a part of democracy is the same as Trump saying that the caravan is full of criminals that are going to invade America. I mean peaceful protestors upset Republicans.

bethebalance
bethebalance

I am OK with peaceful interruptions. I think the sacrifice you make when you are a publicly-paid lawmaker is that you must be able to be lobbied anywhere, by any citizen that has an interest in legislation you may vote upon. Except your home. It may suck that you can’t go out to eat without being lobbied, but that’s part of the cost of the job. Now, if security tries to push you away when you want to talk politely, I think you’re allowed to shout (not yell) your position. (Your position, not empty insults). I don’t believe in unnecessary… Read more »

Benevolus
Benevolus

I don’t care anymore. I am sick and tired of people telling other people when and where and how it is appropriate to protest. I’ll draw the line at violence (which isn’t actually protest) but politeness or decorum is out the window. Too bad. Nice already lost. It’s over.

Caroline
Caroline

I think there are a good many that feel as you do especially after all the sanctimonious lectures about Kapernick kneeling when here we have bombs and massacres coming from the same group of people that have been lecturing everybody else about “civility”.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Caroline you are the Queen of sanctimony and hate..

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Caroline PEACEFUL protests are fine. Its your liberal mobs that piss off NORMAL folks.

Caroline
Caroline

More but muh trolling I see. You have had meltdown after meltdown about the women’s march which was completely peaceful. Your statements are ridiculous and silly. Have a good evening.

Benevolus
Benevolus

It’s too late. If ‘we’ wanted to get better Trump wouldn’t have 47% approval, we would have passed some sort of anti-mass-murder legislation after Sandy Hook, and people would realize that defending the 2nd amendment isn’t actually what the NRA is doing,

Rude is the new normal.
Violence as a way of solving problems is back in vogue.
The gullibility of people is as pervasive as ever.

4 of the 10 worst mass murders in the US since 1991 have occurred in 2017-2018.

Caroline
Caroline

Right wing domestic terrorism has been a problem for roughly a quarter of a century now. IMO the only way to defuse it is to destroy the propaganda machine that promotes these odious lies.

NoParty4Me
NoParty4Me

That would take standing up against defamation, libel and slander in court. Unfortunately, that is off-limits for political candidates and elected officials since they want to use these tactics every campaign season and once they are in office.

Caroline
Caroline

I’m thinking more desstroy their funding. Socially shun those people that support their lies. I don’t think we can rely on the courts to solve this problem. It’s going to take a grass roots effort.

NoParty4Me
NoParty4Me

BOYCOTT. CONTACT THE ADVERTISERS. https://www.foxnewsadvertisers.com/

Will Durant
Will Durant

Certain products are going to be marketed to a targeted audience. For example the manufacturers of Dulcolax and Viagra typically won’t care about being boycotted by youngsters. P&G maybe, but boycotting P&G would mean throwing off decades of indoctrination that Bounty Cascade Charmin Crest Dawn Febreze_Downy Gillette Olay OralB Pantene Swiffer Tide Luvs Pampers… are not the top brands in their category. Roger Ailes was an evil genius on par with the fictional Goldfinger. Getting a certain segment of the population to accept partisan propaganda as “fair and balanced news” was, and is still, brilliant, even if it was only… Read more »

Benevolus
Benevolus

A few years ago there was a billboard on my commute. All it said was “DON’T TRUST THE LIBERAL MEDIA.”
I still don’t know who did it, but I think it was brilliant.
Even if you considered yourself a moderate or independent, this would make you think you might have to drift right just to stay in the center.

If I was running the doomsday clock I would have it about 11:59:59 right now. The nukes may be the mechanism, but it’s attitudes that will cause the button to be pushed. Who is going to ‘calm us down’? Really?

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Doomsday clock? Really? Drama queen! Go buy a set of Depends, extra large and take 2 aspirin and call your therapist in the morning. How silly can it get? Have you tried your safe space in a while?

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Listen to this drivel. Lets pass a anti mass murder jlaw!! Wow, That is the perfect liberal solution! Same with the gun grabbing. Aint gonna do a damn thing but make you less safe. I thought murder was already against the law Benev. Did I miss something?

A perfect lib solution…..

ScottNAtlanta
ScottNAtlanta

Stacey Evans didnt win the Democratic nomination…might want to fix that in your piece Mike

ScottNAtlanta
ScottNAtlanta

If we want to talk about toxic media environments…look no further that Fox. Dont try the “MSNBC is just as bad”…they’re not. Yes they have a partisan lean, but voices like Hannity, Ingram, Tucker Carlson, Judge Jeannie, and Lou Dobbs consistently give voice to conspiracy theories, lies, and hateful rhetoric. You dont ever see that from the prime time line up at MSNBC, and I challenge anyone to find one (that hasnt been creatively edited). Fox even said Lou Dobbs went a step too far and pulled an episode where his “guest” from Judicial Watch said this so called “caravan”… Read more »

armanidog
armanidog

Jimmy Carter’s letter to Kemp:
“In Georgia’s upcoming gubernatorial election, popular confidence is threatened not only by the undeniable racial discrimination of the past and the serious questions that the federal courts have raised about the security of Georgia’s voting machines, but also because you are now overseeing the election in which you are a candidate,” wrote Carter, who served as Democratic governor of Georgia himself before winning the presidency in 1976.

armanidog
armanidog

From Gallup 10/29/18, Trump’s approval poll:

Approve 40% Down 4% from last Monday.
Disapprove 54% Up 4% from last Monday.

https://news.gallup.com/home.aspx?utm_source=link_wwwv9&utm_campaign=item_238232&utm_medium=copy

Caroline
Caroline

I have to wonder what it will be in a few more days.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Classic. After a tragedy the libs are giddy about some stinking polls. Do you think I am exaggerating about anything? Living proof! Maybe we can get 4 more shooting before the end of the week!! Call out the mob.

Will Durant
Will Durant

Did you even bother to read the MR links? You want a whataboutism. The commander in chief and nominal head of the Republican Party seemed to be more concerned with the effect on the polls than the plight of the intended Democrat victims of Cesar Sayoc’s attempted bombings. This was while the alleged perpetrator was still at large: “Republicans are doing so well in early voting, and at the polls, and now this ‘Bomb’ stuff happens and the momentum greatly slows — news not talking politics,” he wrote in a 10:19 a.m. [twitter] post on Friday. By referring to likely… Read more »

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

Cancel rallies? Trump can’t even be bothered to seriously fake concern about anyone or anything that is not personally beneficial. It would interfere with tweeting, TV, and the jawing with cronies that constitute executive time.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/01/donald-trump-schedule-white-house-executive-time

xdog
xdog

Bert W. tweeted: “You’re right Erick.

I appreciate your public persona in Washington and LA media as a compassionate conservative who lives in reality, while on Twitter and other sites, you spew vile, hateful, bigotry mixed with conspiracy theories.

It’s quite the double life you lead.”

Worthless huckster.

Caroline
Caroline

Don’t forget the defense of a pedophilia along with anti-semitism.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Here is the hate queen with her daily pedophile hurl. Do you know what an idiot you sound like? No one supports pedophilia. Much less bombings and racism. You are the reason Trump was elected and hopefully the libs get an ass beating in the midterms.

Noway2016
Noway2016

You, Andrew, are the only one who fans racist flames by using the word “Jew” to describe Soros. Fox doesn’t. I don’t. DTM doesn’t. I would never have known of his ethic background had it not been for your incessant “ethnic” references. Seriously. I’m not very good at identifying ethnicity from last names. Soros gets his chops busted because he funds activities to destabilize Western Governments. He or someone like him or organizations with his political leanings, are indeed, funding the Illegal Latin American Mob who’s stated goal/plan is to enter the US illegally. So, why don’t you lay off… Read more »

Caroline
Caroline

You don’t know about this:
https://deadline.com/2018/10/fox-bans-lou-dobbs-tonight-guest-for-perceived-anti-semitism-1202490988/

Fox News is a hotbed of antisemtism and racism too. Judicial Watch is an antisemitic organization. You have been so radicalized by conservative media you don’t know down is up or up is down.

Is the Jewish community in Pittsburgh that had members massacred wrong too? They said the same thing.

Read the following linked article. It is a good distillation of all the anti-semtism the GOP has been vomiting up lately.

https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/.premium-trump-didn-t-pull-the-trigger-in-pittsburgh-but-he-prepped-the-shooter-1.6595902

NoParty4Me
NoParty4Me

Funding???? These people are broke, and walking thousands of miles. Who is getting paid here? idiot.

Noway2016
Noway2016

“So another Jew?” There you go. Using the phrase again. You. Not me or anyone else. You’re sad.

Benevolus
Benevolus

Nevertheless, triggered by Trump hate/rhetoric.

Mail bombs. Trump fanatic.
2 shot in KY Kroger. Trump fanatic.
That’s just the past week.

Words matter. Y’all have been brainwashed. You have to be considered a threat to society at this point. You are the ones he is preaching hate to. Dems, Mexicans, how many others? He has made hate OK. So stop with the sniveling. YOU made this happen.

Dems have been blaming themselves for not turning out enough to have prevented this catastrophe, but the real blame is on all the stooges who submitted to their baser urges and embraced the hate, and still do.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Had a good day today…then glance at this rancid crap late in the day and the haters are all out in full force. All I can say it that some of you are sick f—s! What the hell good are any of your doing other that stirring up hatred?! Not a damn thing.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Nope. I think I’ll just point out your fake and ginned up lies about folks saying “Jews” are doing dastardly things. Ain’t happened once. You gonna be here on Election Night?

bethebalance
bethebalance

Noway, just because you don’t think there was any anti-Semitism in attacks on George Soros doesn’t mean it wasn’t generated by anti-Semites, propagated by anti-Semites, and celebrated by anti-Semites. Someone from the ADL said it best when they said that many folks may not recognize the signal that the Soros conspiracy story (or other media -like a meme Trump pushed, or his ad featuring Blankfein, Soros, and Yellin), but the white supremacists see the signal loud and clear, and know exactly what it means.

Noway2016
Noway2016

You’re bleating is better than even this…

Will Durant
Will Durant

How many times are you going to resort to zzzzzz…, sominex, or another fillers when you lack a lucid counterpoint or even an answer to a direct question? You are not here for political discourse. You are only here to troll and antagonize. Or as you have stated before, purely for effect.

So I will ask you once again; how do you think these tactics help convince people to vote Republican?

Noway2016
Noway2016

You planning to be here next Tuesday, Will? You’ll have all the proof you’ll need then!

Will Durant
Will Durant

Oh I have little doubt how Georgia will go, in spite of your antics. The House will have a Democratic majority however and therefore some brakes will be applied to the demagogue. So are you going to respond with anything substantive or just keep dodging?

Noway2016
Noway2016

Well, if all goes the way I think it will…I’ll be doing my signature phrase most of the night! Lol! “A……..N……”

Will Durant
Will Durant

Noway, the Artless Dodger.

bethebalance
bethebalance

I second the call for links to “proof” of funding.
I think unsubstantiated claims like this are in fact conspiracy theories with anti-Semitic origins and effects.
Need I remind you, Noway, that we all agreed just last week, to improve the level of discourse by providing links and not propagating BS?
Just because Deep Dark is taking a couple of days off doesn’t mean you shouldn’t be held to standards- standards you agreed to, as well.

bethebalance
bethebalance

This is the most thorough fact checking I could find on the matter.
https://www.factcheck.org/2018/10/no-evidence-soros-is-funding-immigrant-caravan/

I never used this site before, but their About page has a fully transparent list of donors, and a staff of professional journalists.

Now Noway, the ball is in your Court to refute the range of very specific facts they set forth, and all their thorough debunking.

Will Durant
Will Durant

If any conspiracy theory fits the plight of the Hondurans it would be using the Alex Jones’ trope du jour, the false flag. It makes much more sense for a wealthy Trump supporter (or Junior and the Russians) to have drummed this up and inspired Trump’s fear mongering antics to fire up his “base” supporters while blaming this “invasion” of brown people including some middle easterners on the Democrats. Of course this is just as unsupported as the Soros claims but makes more political sense. It just won’t get play on Fox and Friends.

chamblee54
chamblee54

https://theintercept.com/2018/10/29/the-lessons-for-western-democracies-from-the-stunning-victory-of-brazils-jair-bolsonaro/
Glenn Greenwald talks about how the voters feel the ruling class has let them down. The response of the ruling class is to insult the voters. In America, when the voters did not rush to install Hillary as President, the Democrat response was to call the voters racist.

Benevolus
Benevolus

Hillary got 3 MILLION more votes, so shut the f up.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Jesus, B. It doesn’t matter! Listen to yourself…

Caroline
Caroline

It matters when you are talking about Brazil because they do not have an electoral college.

Noway2016
Noway2016

LMFAO!!! Who the eff gives a rats-rear end about Brazil!? You are literally deranged!

Caroline
Caroline

No, just factual. Thanks for another post backing up the fact that you have been radicalized.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Caroline….do us all a favor…move to Brazil if you don’t like it here! And I bet they will not let you shriek your hatred down there.

chamblee54
chamblee54

The election was for the electoral votes. The popular vote is meaningless.

Caroline
Caroline

They don’t have an electoral college in Brazil. They elect their president by popular vote with a kind of instant runoff type round 2 if no one gets the required majority on the first round. So if we ran our elections that way Hillary probably would be president.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Lord, Jesus! LOLOLOLOLOLOL! Tell me, O Learned One, what are the election procedures in say, Outer Mongolia, which has about the same amout of relevancy. You are literally Ate Up With Stupid!!!

Caroline
Caroline

Thanks for another radicalized post.

chamblee54
chamblee54

Did anyone listen to the video? Mr. Greenwald lives in Brazil, and knows what he is talking about. I learned a few things.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

What about the folks on Uranus for crying out loud. I will pay for you to go a civics class it if would improve the quality of your posts.

Benevolus
Benevolus

Well then you should say ‘when the electoral college didn’t rush to install Hillary Clinton’, because the voters DID.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Why is this issue a fixation for you, B? The popular vote does not matter. Your gal didn’t campaign intelligently and she lost. Your continuing to point out her popular vote win is of no relevance. To anything.

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

It’s visceral for me too, but don’t let it rule you., Benevolus.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Benev are you truly a piece of work…. Here is quarter, call someone who gives a sh– about the popular vote. Well call Al Gore.

Maybe he can tell the moron that said that said were about 99% toward Armageddon or some other idiocy. Maybe Gore will agree with you on the popular vote and the panic stricken Depends wearer about the end of the world. What a freaking loser of an argument!.

Benevolus
Benevolus

Wipe the spittle off of your chin and try to write something that makes sense for once.

bethebalance
bethebalance

That last sentence doesn’t even make sense. Some blamed misogyny- and that may have been a factor- but, breaking news, Hillary wasn’t African-American.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Chamblee, listen to these hateful POS…it is stunning and getting worse..

Caroline
Caroline

Well, I got a call from Lester Maddox today. Err, I mean Kemp stating that we have to stop those socialists from San Fran (Steyer I guess) and millionaires from NY (I’m guessing he means Soros) from taking over Georgia because liberals were showing up in Georgia to vote in record numbers. I guess Kemp’s voters are idiots who don’t know any better judging by that call.

I also got a call from Tom Steyer telling me to vote because democracy is on the ballot and we need to remove a dangerous President from office.

Who makes more sense these days?

Noway2016
Noway2016

Just think, Carolina, if you get a similar call from Kemp next Wednesday, it will be from the newly elected Governor! Lol!

Caroline
Caroline

He doesn’t seem as confident as you do. As a matter of fact that robocall sounded downright panicked and he’s entirely not too bright for thinking that calling my house would help him round up votes. Again, maybe he was so desperate he figured my house was worth a call.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Let’s discuss it next Tuesday night. You gonna be here?

Noway2016
Noway2016

You do realize it was a recorded voice, right! LMAO!!

Caroline
Caroline

Of course, but since you are radicalized you wouldn’t realize that is what I meant. You’re the one that thought he actually called my house. Still being recorded did not keep him from sounding desperate. As a matter of fact someone came by my house last week and stuck a flyer under my door that sounded desperate too. Something about Bone Saw Brett. The person did not even knock on the doors in the neighborhood. I guess they were afraid to hear what people thought about Kemp.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Hey Buttercup, was Lester a Democrat? Are you claiming that Tom Steyer is the voice of reason??!! You need professional help. Among other things.

TheDeepDark
TheDeepDark

Caroline… this is warning. This post does nothing to create a civilized conversation. Another one like this and you will be on time-out like MattMD_actual. Do you understand? I need a yes or no in reply.

Noway2016
Noway2016

The work of radical, hateful Libs! Disgusting!
https://dailycaller.com/2018/10/29/gunman-gop-office-florida/

Benevolus
Benevolus

Well, to follow your idiotic train of thought, it could have been a Repub trying to gin up sympathy before the election.

Noway2016
Noway2016

The Great Man will do three rallies in one day! LMAO!!! Next Monday! MAGA!

Caroline
Caroline

The rest of us probably need to figure out a way to duck and hide from the impending terrorist attacks. Every police station in the country should be put on high alert. Certainly will not be going to Kroger that day.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Yea I would hide in the house worried about going to Kroger too….get a grip please… Why let the terrorists win? I don’t mind going to Kroger or any where else.

TheDeepDark
TheDeepDark

Noway, this comment adds nothing to any conversation, and is not made to do anything but antagonize. Unless you are adding that it is a policy speech, and can enumerate what policies will we talked about, please refrain from posting these types of comments. I need a “I understand” or a “I don’t understand” in reply.

Noway2016
Noway2016

I understand!!

TheDeepDark
TheDeepDark

Thank you.

Noway2016
Noway2016

DD, real question. Conservatives on here think Repubs are gonna clean up next week. Libs think their side is gonna do the same There may be a stray “AwwwwNawwww” hurled by either side. Will that be allowed? I just wanna know our new boundaries! Thanks!

TheDeepDark
TheDeepDark

Unfortunately, neither of the options that you speak of have really been debated in any logical fashion. You guys rehash the same inane crap over and over, day after day. Trump is the devil. Trump is a great man. Republicans are racists. Democrats are stupid. It’s the same thing over and over again. There are very few of you that add anything to any conversation. It’s disappointing because some of our authors put out great content that all of you ignore to try and puff up your online persona vs someone else’s online persona. If you want to know the… Read more »

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

Trump has said the US election system is rife with fraud. If you think things are chaotic, ugly and violent now, wait until fifty-plus million people that believe whatever Trump says decide that Congress isn’t really a legitimate governing institution because Republicans no longer control it.

Caroline
Caroline

Voting is only good when the Russians are helping you steal data from your opponents like they did in 2014 and 2016. Regular people voting is just downright fraudulent in his sick mind.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Idiot. Do I have to get Obama to say to you personally that only a NUMB NUT would believe Russia could impact out election?…that was 3 weeks BEFORE the election aimed at Trump’s sniveling! You should play that on an endless loop, huddled under your covers with your 25 cats —since you are afraid to go to Kroger. Just call Uber Easts….they can bring cat food too. Listen to your hero Barak on the subject! Once again. I have to post the same article once of month for the goobers…ENDLESS Sniveling is not an attractive trait folks. https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/100000004715581/obama-to-trump-stop-whining.html Hopefully we… Read more »

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Dave, conservatives are not panic stricken ninnies. We don’t ginned up by BS. Your party seems to spread it so often you idiots are starting to believe your own BS. Hey take it from a conservative. We don’t buy the liberal BS. Why do you? You should know better.

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

Panic stricken is calling out an additional 5,000 military now hungry people with nothing but what they’re carrying, many women and children, wanting a better life that may arrive at the US border in a few months. It’s an invasion!

Panic stricken is Jew billionaire George Soros paying them to do it.

Panic stricken is jumping to the conclusion that “this ‘bomb’ stuff” is a Democratic ply to seek to influence the elections, which by the way is OK, as long as its the Russians.

Noway2016
Noway2016

“is Jew billionaire George Soros”. Dave, please cut that shit out! Seriously. Nobody on this site has said stuff like that. You and a couple of others do that. It’s not truthful in describing my or any other conservative’s opposition to Soros.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Eeee-mergency meeting at Myrtle’s tomorrow! Grady requested more posts ftom here! Said with all that’s going on he and the boys needed good belly laughs!!! Myrtle herself is making apple crisp!!!! Schweeeet!!!

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Andrew you were hurling blame hours after the tragedy. Before you look at the splinter in someone else’s eye you might get the Redwood out of yours..

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

It’s not as if a Jewish false flag was novel for Trump. He was suggesting Jewish false flags after only weeks in office. MAGA.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-jews-antisemitic-hate-crimes-false-flag-reverse-david-duke-kkk-ku-klux-klan-a7604801.html

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Hey Andrew, why do the libs just love Sharpton? Would you like a few quotes from him and his hatred of Jews? Now why did CNN give the proven racist a show? He was in the White House with Obama 72 times and likely more than that. Google it. Has Trump had those anti-Semitic racists in the White House? Screwy Louie Farrakhan, Obama’s neighbor in Chicago—a lib hero and conservatives rightfully call out these racists and race baiters for what they. Why are they hugged and cuddled by you guys? Trump is a huge supporter of Israel, Obama wouldn’t even… Read more »

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Andrew, I thought you libs hated big donors in politics….Obviously that is lie isn’t it?!

Benevolus
Benevolus

No, it just means you are stupid.

Noway2016
Noway2016

You have brought it to my attention. I just do not see the stories about Soros reference his ethnicity. I don’t see articles that attack his ehtnicity. Only his politics. My Myrtle’s buds don’t care about anyone’s birth origin, if you will. They care about an individual’s political efforts. You have no worries about me and my potential negative feelings for anyone Jewish. Like I said, I do not even know when a last name may be Jewish or not. That type of thinking simply doesn’t enter my mind.

Noway2016
Noway2016

I get your point. I’m not gonna change yours and you won’t change mine.
One week out, I’m just tired. Unless one of yall on the other side just says something just totally outrageous, I’m done until Tuesday. Maybe I need to go see the new “Halloween” today!
In any event, I’ll be here Tuesday to either get my butt kicked or do the kicking.