Morning Reads – Thusday, September 20, 2018

Good morning and Happy Thursday. We’re almost to the end of the week — and thank Heavens for that!

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Jimmy Carter 

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Will Durant
Will Durant

I know some South Georgians that still pronounce it as “Thusday”.

Noway2016
Noway2016

So, will the accuser respond by the Senate’s deadline of tomorrow?

Noway2016
Noway2016

So, will she or won’t she? I feel this is like a Miss Clarol commercial!

Ellynn
Ellynn
Benevolus
Benevolus

In that same vein (and it has a chart!):
New data: Democrats crushing Republicans in 2018 elections
https://www.axios.com/2018-midterm-elections-primary-turnout-gop-4b649497-1573-4e62-a4e2-83190c6eb9ee.html

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

I can beat that Benev! THE NY TIMES SAID HILLARY HAD A 99% chance of winning at 8:00 pm on election night! Do know what a dips—t sounds like parroting liberal polls? You don’t want to do that again do you? You guys better start stuffing ballot boxes like old times! No one should worry about the Russians. It is the democratic machine that is more crooked than a dog’s hind leg. And the fake news and fake polls that are in their back pocket that the dullard proletariat consume like Benev here! I am so skeered the libs will… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Uh, tell us what you are running on again
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Why should anyone bother? People have answered you earnestly in the past. The only reason you float that sentence is because you’re looking for an excuse to type something like:
“DURRRRRRRR! That sounds like communism. DURRRRRRR”

bethebalance
bethebalance

There have been dozens of posts about the wholly substantive issues that candidates of all parties are running on.
But I’ll throw you a bone, DTM. Every Dem is secretly a Communist who wants Putin or someone like him to run our country, but replace the oligarchs with loyal corporate interests. You can find it all at CPUSA.com.

Wait, did I say Dems? I meant Repubs.

Noway2016
Noway2016

You won’t be mad if I disregard it too??

Ellynn
Ellynn

The more you become more one sided and less open minded, the more candles I light with prayer that your wife becomes a nice feminist who makes pink ear cat hats. Esty account is optional.

Benevolus
Benevolus

Disregarding information like this is actually the point of the story, so I don’t mind at all.
To the extent that you are representative of some significant demographic, your response would give the story some credibility.

The Eiger
The Eiger

“Well, at least you got a nice boat.” PALM FACE. Bangs head on desk.

Benevolus
Benevolus

And, “Here’s a hot dog. Have a good time.”

xdog
xdog

And he does empathy better than science. “One of the wettest we’ve ever seen, from the standpoint of water.” At least he didn’t have to explain islands again.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

“One of the wettest we’ve ever seen from the standpoint of water.”
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At least he isn’t treating paper towels like pretend basketballs.

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

Reminds me of the headline, “Drought caused by lack of water”

bethebalance
bethebalance

“I can’t tell you why I care about my golf course much more than your devastated home; I just do. But the golf course is OK, right?”

xdog
xdog

At least he’s getting better at it. Of course there weren’t any tough concepts like ‘island’ to master this time, plus these were real Americans, especially the Guccis.

NoParty4Me
NoParty4Me

yeah, but he is even more self-absorbent.

Benevolus
Benevolus

Does that mean he’s moist?

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

It’s called humor…nice boat…

Ellynn
Ellynn

Trump telling the guy who said his insurance company isn’t going to cover him he would ‘see about that – look into it’ was just cruel.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Offering someone consolation requires empathy and humility, two traits Trump has never possessed.

bethebalance
bethebalance

It could actually be considered appropriate or optimistic IF it was accompanied by genuine compassion for the reality of the homeowner’s situation. But as I reviewed the news about the visit, the only compassion I came across was the scripted statements.
Being honest, there hasn’t been one instance I’ve come across where the Pres. has shown honest (unscripted) compassion or empathy. It’s not just a personal shortcoming or challenge- it is distinctly antisocial.

NoParty4Me
NoParty4Me

As the old saying goes, “The two best days of boat ownership. . . The day you get it and the day you get rid of it.”

NoParty4Me
NoParty4Me

As the old saying goes:, “The two best days of boat ownership are the day you get it and the day you get rid of it.”

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

Kemp’s education proposal is to fund a counselor for a year for every high school (I understand for a year), a one time payment of $30,000 to every school for security, and a new state education bureaucracy.
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Adjustment for individual school enrollments varying by a factor of five is too difficult for Kemp to handle in funding allocation. MAGA.

Ellynn
Ellynn

Most of this was already in the works in the House and Senate ‘School Safety Study Committee’ . reviews. It’s interesting this come out the night before the first hearing of the Senate hearing today.

It should be noted $30,000 will not cover a CCTV system in your average size school. Or a security entry vestibule retro fit with bullet resistant glass or even small missile impact in an existing school..

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

Plant Vogtle: It’s a paradox that it usually becomes a good deal when enough good money has been thrown after bad. The two new reactors were a good deal when the first shovel went into the ground. The remaining amount to complete the reactors is about the same as then, so completing them is a good deal.
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After a few more billions have been spent, and a another billion is added to cost to complete, it’ll be even a better deal than it is now. Get it?

Ellynn
Ellynn

Migration rate of Hinesville Ga… “The first on the list – a city that once touted itself as the fastest growign in the state – is Hinesville which came in No. 48 on the list. Based on census data, the city which is in the extended metropolitan area of Savannah, had more than 7,000 people leave between 2010 and 2017. Despite that loss, the city is actually still growing and saw an overall increase in the population of a little over 2,000 people. This could be due to a high birth rate (12,218 births) and a relatively low death rate… Read more »

Pete Gibbons
Pete Gibbons

Bowman will have one on that list of NFL players soon. #Hardman4Heisman

armanidog
armanidog

He’s been right so far:

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

I am repeating part of this moron’s ranting. Vestige of the slave era! What a fat nitwit. Go libs! Without an electoral college you have mob rule. Blithering fools! Go figure! The last president. Lower taxes, less regulations and more freedom equals the end of the world. Sounds like a panacea to a normal person. No this tells you how F ‘ed up the radical libs are. This radical moron tells you what the liberal agenda is! Massive taxes, less freedom, less wealth, more misery. Why in the hell do women supposedly want this per this wizard? I don’t buy… Read more »

armanidog
armanidog

From James Madison in 1787 during the Constitutional Convention:
“There was one difficulty however of a serious nature attending an immediate choice by the people. The right of suffrage was much more diffusive in the Northern than the Southern States; and the latter could have no influence in the election on the score of Negroes. The substitution of electors obviated this difficulty and seemed on the whole to be liable to the fewest objections.[17]”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_College_(United_States)
Mr. Michael Moore called the 2016 election. I know even you had given up hope of Trump being elected.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Noway called the 2016 election. I was pleasantly surprised. Were you one of the folks crying on election night!? Love that video of all of the goobers saying he would never be president!

bethebalance
bethebalance

“Without an electoral college you have mob rule.”
?
Are you saying a popular vote is mob rule?
I guess mobs have some degree of popularity, and political parties do have loyalty oaths… but I’m not going to invalidate the entirety of the electorate by saying voters can’t think for themselves.

Also, I don’t let anyone speak for me personally.
Do you mean to tell me that every Republican speaks for you?
If the answer to that is No, then you won’t need to ask such silly questions again.
We are all individuals, unless we’re a paid spokesperson or something.

Caroline
Caroline

David Frum: Conservatives will accept the loss of democracy before they will accept losing elections.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Are conservatives the ones protesting, busting out windows, shutting down Supreme Court hearings, hassling anyone they disagree with, shooting softball teams, actin’ a damn hateful fool every day, trying to frame the president with absurd lies and investigations not remotely truthful, trying to sabotage and ruin lives to get their way? I think Beneve said conservatives don’t protest well because they look awkward in the button down shirt, khaki’s and American flags. Caroline, do you know what a moronic statement that is? Well you come up with them multiple times a day don’t you? When is the last time you… Read more »

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Of course the popular vote is mob rule. How is it not?

Isnt a lynch mob mob rule? Do you know what a GD republic is? Did you ever take a civics class?

Caroline
Caroline

So you’re saying we’re run by mob rule here in GA since everybody is popularly elected? You would rather have an authoritarian dictatorship than democracy. You are afraid of democracy.

bethebalance
bethebalance

Because mobs are governed by fear and use of force and lack of individual freedoms and thought.
Popularity is the counting of voluntary uncoerced individual choices rooted in liberty.
Just because there are many of something doesn’t mean they all think the same, or have the same motivation, or would gladly just join in gang behavior just because others are doing it.
If you can’t see the diff, you are beyond help in your monolithic thought.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Good try balance. This guy is a big time lib spokesman. What do you NOT like about what this fat America hating fools spews?! If he was not why is the link here? HMMM?

bethebalance
bethebalance

The link is there bc someone posted it.
It’s like your brain only allows for two possibilities- of anything. All or nothing.
In an infinite universe, that means everything is beyond you.

Benevolus
Benevolus

Where is this lower taxes/more freedom utopia you dream of?
The only places like that I can think of are places with little in the way of centralized government, which is what you want, right? Like Somalia? Or Yemen? Or even Afghanistan?

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Seriously, do any of you think Michael Moore represents America? Does he represent your values? Do you think Hollywood does? Maybe the late night comedians? If so, I have some bad news for you. Do you think most women and most Americans admire Joy (less) Maud Bahar ? I don’t think so. Most folks disdain what Hollywood has turned into over the years. Moore is a fringe fanatic. Now what political philosophy to those folks share with many on this blog? I do not think those voices represent most of America. Not even close. Would anyone like to take the… Read more »

Benevolus
Benevolus

If you want to mention something specific that Moore said that you disagree with then perhaps we can discuss. Otherwise you are just ranting and there is nothing to respond to.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

I already did you knucklehead.

bethebalance
bethebalance

You don’t even make an argument to start with.
For instance, what exactly are Hollywood’s values?
My guess is you can’t even tell me Michael Moore’s values besides some boilerplate cut and paste “libs libs taxes libs communist” BS. Fyi- those aren’t values.

Ellynn
Ellynn
chefdavid
chefdavid
armanidog
armanidog

Did they have cellphones back then?

Ellynn
Ellynn

Why didn’t just build a new bridge in the first lace…. In fact, build two, – the second from the Truman to Hutchinson Island and get all the semi’s out of the Downtown.

http://www.wtoc.com/2018/09/20/harbor-expansion-could-bring-talmadge-bridge-changes-possible-replacement/

jbgotcha
jbgotcha

Kava-aww-nawww was in a frat group called “tits and clits”. Their motto was “no means yes; yes means anal”. Plausible as to his accusations. https://twitter.com/joycemaynard/status/1042777761381838848

Caroline
Caroline

Ew. More and more is coming out. Kavanaugh is definitely creepy.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

The disappointment and outrage of Reed, Graham, Jeffress in this article is just as fake as their “Christian” values. The charlatans are gonna make a buck regardless of who controls the Senate.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/20/us/politics/brett-kavanaugh-religious-voters.html

armanidog
armanidog

Slimy Ralph Reed is the worst of the lot. Read about him on Wikipedia.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

I’m partial to Robert “Jews are going to hell” Jeffress. Although, Franklin “griftin’ off my daddy’s name” Graham is a close second.

Caroline
Caroline

Somebody needs to write a book about how the pro life movement is supporting of rape culture.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Okay folks, always a touchy subject but is abortion terminating a life?

Is that life defenseless?

Caroline, would you like to write a book about the 50 million lives lost since Roe Wade came about?

Why would pro life folks want folks to get raped? Enlighten us on the twisted logic…

Benevolus
Benevolus

I don’t know of any middle ground on that subject. Which leaves little reason to discuss.

bethebalance
bethebalance

Except there may be one piece of middle ground- which is the exceptions to limitations on pregnancy terminations when the woman is a victim of rape or incest.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Or are you too much of a chicken s—t to answer the question honestly?!

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

1) I don’t know why you think that you’re entitled to a straightforward or respectful discussion when you never extend that courtesy to anyone else.
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2) Your question isn’t a question. It’s a platform for you to launch into another diatribe about how “the libs” are to blame for your incredibly small penis and your perpetual inability to get laid.

Caroline
Caroline

Because they don’t believe women have any other value other than to produce children. So therefore anything that happens to women is okay since they have no value. And it’s why they get so upset about abortion. People who have no value also should not be allowed to make their decisions regarding a pregnancy. I mean you guys say it everyday in every way. Apparently you think women are too stupid to get the message that the pro life people send out. And you’re the one who has been complaining about people “shooting out babies”. However, I realize you are… Read more »

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Uh, who on earth said women had no value? Do we all value our moms and sisters, daughters and wives….Why are you such a —? you fill in the blank. I bet BJ can come up with some choice words.. Did anyone hear anything like this idiotic strawman of a statement? Try again. But this is right up there with the most caustic, rude lies you have ever posted. Wait a minute… if you don’t have any feelings or care about the 50 million lives lost, aren’t YOU THE ONE THAT DOESNT VALUE THEIR LIVES? Obviously so. It aint me.… Read more »

bethebalance
bethebalance

No one likes abortions you troll.
But where folks draw the line differs, and the folks above are saying they don’t expect to have an enlightened or nuanced convo with you about it.
I expect they’re right.

Caroline
Caroline

Dude, that’s the message you are constantly giving to women that they have no value. You have spent time here screeching about women marching. Women standing up for themselves bothers you a lot apparently. Apparently conservative women are so hound dog beaten down that you think that women standing up for themselves is abnormal. Again, not allowing women to make their own choices is showing how little you value them. Look at the way the GOP has treated Dr. Ford. They are demanding that she show up at a certain time and sit at a table with the guy that… Read more »

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Christian values are not fake. Tell me how the 10 commandments are not valid thousands of years ago, today and thousand into the future. Ang are these Judeo/Christian values still valid today or have you snowflakes abandoned them?

No most of us don’t measure up… but the values are there. Anyone want to take the other side of that one too?! Good Lord…

armanidog
armanidog

The ten commandments are valid for Christians. None of those three “ministers” follow the ten commandments. Thou shalt not commit adultery-“In March 2018, Jeffress appeared as a Fox News contributor to discuss allegation that Donald Trump had an affair with a former adult film star Stormy Daniels, saying, “Even if it’s proven to be true, it doesn’t matter.” stating it is irreleveant as policy matters more than the presidents personal life.[47]” Thou shalt not steal-Those e-mails and other evidence revealed the participation of the Christian Coalition in the alleged fraud, particularly the Alabama chapter of the Christian Coalition, which received… Read more »

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Uh, Armanie, after your little tirade, why don’t you tell me ANY FREAKING ONE THAT HAS FOLLOWED THOSE 10 commandments faithfully? Any of your liberal heroes? I don’t know any conservatives that have. So isn’t you rant a waste of time?

One guy came a few thousand years ago and stuck to them. That’s it. So are you telling me almost all humans are hypocrites? If so, I agree. If you think libs have a monopoly on virtue, just look at this blog.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

I never said Christian values were fake. I simply said the “Christian” values of Ralph Reed, Robert Jeffress, and Franklin Graham were concocted so those sleezeballs could make money off of well-meaning, earnest, real Christians. . Reed whored out Focus on the Family and the Christian Coalition in exchange for payments from Jack Abramoff. Not sure how that tracks with the message of Jesus. . Graham is aggressively homophobic – publicly supporting and defending Putin’s “gay propaganda law” which was used to imprison and torture homosexuals – and engaged in both birtherism and peddling the lie Obama was a secret… Read more »

MattMD_actual
MattMD_actual

You couldn’t name the 10 commandments without looking them up and a minority of them make it into our legal system.

It’s odd how rape seems to be ok, though. They say nothing about homosexuality, either.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

I don’t think rape is okay Matt. And you are correct, the 10 commandments make no mention of homosexuality. There are other passages that might address that. I don’t care what floats your boat. I don’t advertise that I prefer girls and could care less if you like guys. Why do you guys always bring up rape and pedophilia when no one on this blog, even as warped as you , supports either one? I don’t think anyone here is a Nazi but that gets hurled about. I honestly doubt there are any racists on the blog either but that… Read more »

MattMD_actual
MattMD_actual

Nobody likes you here.

Go away, you complete waste of human life.

bethebalance
bethebalance

Calling it BS—without any actual knowledge of the facts, and probably without personal knowledge shared by any victim– is the real idiocy.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Matt, want to have a popularity contest? Boy you might be the least popular guy I have ever run across. I don’t claim to be the most popular. I am not trying to be. But I love pointing out BS, lies and idiocy.

Do you think folks appreciate your “uplifting” comments on a daily basis!?

Benevolus
Benevolus

Are we going full Old Testament compliance, or just selective? Because we may need to talk about Leviticus.

Sally Forth
Sally Forth

There are no words to describe the insanity of this obstruction of the democratic process by left-wing loons. A never-heard-of woman has been cow-towed to by the Senators whose job it is to confirm the presidential nominee to fill the vacant seat on SCOTUS. Part of those same Senators have first hidden, then manipulated the story that even she says was NOT rape or anything even close. Just her and a bunch of her drunk friends, apparently so drunk she cannot remember anything to back up her story. She has filed no charges, yet demands the FBI investigate her fuzzy… Read more »

Ellynn
Ellynn

“Senators whose job it is to confirm the presidential nominee* to fill the vacant seat on SCOTUS…”
*insert ‘unless it’s President Obama’s pick’

bethebalance
bethebalance

also: “whose job it is to either confirm or reject the nominee”.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Who was it that said that the president shouldn’t pick a Supreme Court justice in an election year? Was that a democrat? Is anyone proud of the way liberals have handle Supreme Court picks for the last 25 years? A show of hands. How about this joke of a process? Would anyone trust a liberal to do anything honestly after watching them the last 2 years much less 20? Why?

MattMD_actual
MattMD_actual

You know, if she really is making this up, it’s odd how she is asking for an FBI investigation.

Why would anyone go this extent knowing that right wing loons would threaten her and her family?

No one is obstructing anything, this claim needs to be investigated. It pathetic how you think an attempted rape is no big deal. Sorry clown, that is a form of sexual assault.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

The GOP is full of dueling positions on this:
1) He didn’t do it! v. So what if he did?!

and

2) These allegations are false! v. We oppose any sort of nonpartisan investigation that would disprove these allegations.

For Kavanaugh’s part, I know why he doesn’t want an FBI investigation. Lying to a Republican Senate committee is a crime that can only be prosecuted if the Republicans care enough to prosecute it (hint: they don’t). Lying to the FBI is a crime that can be prosecuted regardless of what Congress thinks.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

There is no dueling position. It is a joke, A coordinated frame job. Every bit of this is orchestrated and been planned out for months if not years. Anyone deny that?

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

It’s been planned out for years?
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So you expect us to believe Democrats have enough foresight to know who the nominee to replace Kennedy will be way way back in 2012 and yet they lack the foresight necessary to campaign effectively in Wisconsin and Michigan?
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You’re a moron.

Caroline
Caroline

You apparently haven’t heard the new excuse called “mistaken identity”. LOL.

Sally Forth
Sally Forth

I think that any attempted rape is a big deal. I also believe that false accusations to destroy any man’s life are a big deal. Plus the presumption of innocence under the law. He says he was not present for what she has described, whatever it was. Ms. Ford has not even accused him of “attempted rape.” She stated she had on a one-piece bathing suit and had clothes over that, wherever she was and whenever it was. The most one could could make of that is teenage groping through 2 layers of clothes, which I’m sure no male on… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Plus the presumption of innocence under the law . That’s for criminal proceedings. This isn’t a criminal proceeding. Kavanaugh isn’t entitled to a seat on the Supreme Court and he doesn’t have “due process” rights when it comes to a seat on the Supreme Court. . which I’m sure no male on GAPol ever did. . Yeah, I’ve never sexually assaulted someone. Feel pretty confident in that assertion because I’m not a piece of shit. . the FBI does not have jurisdiction . The FBI did Kavanaugh’s background assessment so, yes, they do have jurisdiction. Again, no one is calling… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Feinstein and the Dimwits have refused to give the Committee Chairman an unredacted copy of the letter sent to them. . To be fair, Grassley’s lead confirmation counsel, Mike Davis, took to Twitter last night to announce he was “unfazed and determined” to “confirm Judge Kavanaugh.” Sounds like the Republicans on the Judiciary Committee are suuuper committed to an impartial and unbiased review of these allegations. . falsely accuse him of copping a feel 40 years ago . As I’ve already noted, the instances of false rape/sexual assault allegations is low. Somewhere in the ballpark of 2 – 10%. Here’s… Read more »

Sally Forth
Sally Forth

ACP, I have read the story that Ford has given, including her statement that she had on a one-piece bathing suit with pants and shirt on over that. Two layers of clothes, not easy for someone else to take off. And she can’t remember where she was or when it was. Yet says he put his hand over her mouth, but that she is fuzzy about details. That is her story. Judge Kavanaugh has stated that whatever it was and whenever it was, he was not there, and definitely didn’t do to anyone the things she has described. He said… Read more »

MattMD_actual
MattMD_actual

You have embarrassed yourself and have proved in a very specific way that you are a shit human being.

Exit the thread.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Matt, why don’t you go blow yourself?

More uplifting comments. It is comical! What a loser. I hope the stiffs in the morgue are truly dead so they don’t have to hear you. Uh, Mattster, maybe you should spare us a little heartburn and take another sabbatical!

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

1) It’s not really “he said, she said.” It’s – she has given a consistent version of events for the last six years and passed a polygraph v. he’s got a documented history of lying under oath and says he didn’t do it. . 2) Even if it is “he said, she said,” we’ve got statistical evidence that says 90 to 98% of the time the “she” is telling the truth. So why is the default assumption that Kavanaugh is the one telling the truth? He has a very clear and obvious reason to lie (a seat on the Supreme… Read more »

Ellynn
Ellynn

The guy I mentioned on this site last year who tried to force me into a wall at work (just copping a feel I guess) and I slammed my heel into his foot and hit him in his ribs with my elbow -.I can’t tell you the exact day it happened. It was a Sunday, in the spring, and I can give you the most likely year, but it could have been the following one. I can tell you the place, because I worked there for 4 years. Can’t recall the color of the storage room wall I was smashed… Read more »

bethebalance
bethebalance

Sad sad to hear Ellynn.
Thank you for bravely sharing.

Ellynn
Ellynn

Don’t be sad. I started sharing the basics of that story when I had an office of young female interns I trained who work in a male dominated profession and travel to male dominated work sites in remote areas of the state. I don’t worry over the guys in the office, but I can’t say that about the people who do not work for my employer directly. I didn’t want then to be afraid to speak up. We have a few introverted types. I wanted them to know they had options and I would make sure they would be heard.… Read more »

Caroline
Caroline

I’m so sorry that happened to you. At least they fired the guy.

Ellynn
Ellynn

Only because I demanded they check to see if he had bruises. My life has been positively affected by a standard 5/16″ stiletto heel point on more then one occasion.

Wore these today.
http://www.ninewest.com/Fifth-Pointy-Toe-Pumps/29332413,default,pd.html?variantColor=JJ3QKA6&q=flax

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Good for you Ellynn! Guys like that need to be fired and locked up! Glad you don’t take any crap!

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

This crap sets back real sexual abuse cases because this is an absurd joke. I would be 80% of normal Americans would agree and most women. The 20% radical socialist loons don’t care about the truth.

Caroline
Caroline

Kavanaugh should ask for an FBI investigation if that is the case. He sure acts guilty.

jbgotcha
jbgotcha

You know nothing. Most sexual abuse cases aren’t successfully prosecuted and there are a multitude of factors for that. The pervasive myths about “false accusations” ruining nice men’s lives affect jury outcomes. I’ve worked in the field, and I can tell you that a woman coming forward with a complaint of sexual abuse is harassed and scrutinized like no other. It’s hardly ever worth it for a woman to come forward from a criminal justice POV.

Ellynn
Ellynn

What Sally seems not to grasp – to him it’s just ‘copping a feel’. To the average 4’10” 90 pound 14 year old girl at a party (regardless if she’s had been drinking, how she is dressed, that she walked in the wrong place at the wrong time, ect…), being pushed and pinned down on a bed and’j’ust copped’ by a 5’10” 170 pound drunk male, while his even more drunk friend watches, – being over powered, trapped, the smell of his drunk breath making you want to vomit, the air being crushed out of your lungs as he drops… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Thanks for sharing the female perspective, Ellynn.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Amen Sally. Our liberal friends know this is made up garbage. And do not care. They are happy about it. Am I wrong here?

bethebalance
bethebalance

Yes, you’re wrong.
I know and have represented a number of victims of sexual assault. There is absolutely nothing invalidating about the account.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

There is nothing to validage it either is there counselor. BS. Why did this not come out over the last 36 years? Spare us.

While we are at it, lets prosecute Bill Clinton for his obvious rape. Hell his victim cant get anyone to even listen..why is that? Don’t you care about her? Apparently not? Well why the hell not? Gotcha! I smell lying pieces of whatever…don’t you?

Caroline
Caroline

The FBI already investigated Bill Clinton and found his accuser not credible. She’s now an advocate for pedophiles. Why isn’t Kavanaugh asking to be investigated by the FBI?

bethebalance
bethebalance

If you had any knowledge or even cared to learn about assault and abuse cases, they just don’t get reported for many reasons for long periods of time. It’s been said repeatedly here. Look at the Catholic church issue, just to name one of many examples of how victims don’t come forward right away. And in this case, the victim did, just not publicly. And now that she has, she’s being dragged through the mud for it. And you wonder why she was reluctant before? And why in the world would ppl give death threats? I assume they are deranged.

Ellynn
Ellynn

Yes, Your wrong here.

MattMD_actual
MattMD_actual

You know, I used to think NoWay was the biggest POS on this board.

It has to be Sally Forth by a long shot. He dismisses attempted rape as “coping a feel”.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

I don’t know. This place got a lot worse when DTM started posting.

armanidog
armanidog

My theory is that DTM is the alter ego of Brian Kemp.

Sally Forth
Sally Forth

Matt, you have now officially earned the title of “biggest POS on this board” for slamming me and ignoring the facts. Falsely spreading “attempted rape” when even the woman herself says that did not happen is over the top.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

“Attempted rape” requires an overt act and intention to commit rape. While it’s hard to know what was running through Kavanaugh’s head with regard to intent, acts like trying to remove a woman’s clothes and initiate penetration would certainly support a prosecution for attempted rape or assault with intent to rape. Regardless of whether it meets the definition of “attempted rape” or not, it’s doubtlessly sexual battery and it’s doubtlessly more than “copping a feel.” . By the way, “copping a feel” is still sexual assault if it isn’t consented to. Your perceptions with regard to the “severity” of the… Read more »

Sally Forth
Sally Forth

I agree that these are all terrible things. I do not agree that Kavanaugh did them, because it is not my place to sit in judgement on him or any other man, unless I am one of 12 people on a jury in a court of law. Trying and convicting anyone without any proven facts on the court of internet and news media is simply wrong. I feel pretty sure no male on this board would want that to happen to them. That’s all I’m sayin.

Benevolus
Benevolus

And that is why this should be investigated further.
You can’t say there is no further evidence because we don’t know that. It was a party, lots of people, even some alleged witnesses. Get them under oath. Check the records. There is a significant written record and several others have come forward to corroborate. Why the resistance to investigate?

Ellynn
Ellynn

This isn’t a court of law. It’s a job interview for a position that would make him one of 9 people who are the final word of justice, ethics and morality in the country. If this was the private sector he would have gotten a nice letter thanking him for his interest and time, but he would not be offered a position at this time. Trump employees have been denied security clearance for less in their FBI background check.

Ellynn
Ellynn

Worse case for Kavanagh, he goes back to his life time appointed DC circuit bench with his pal Garland, and Trump picks some one just as conservative that has no paper trail or belongs to a religious group that believes your husband makes all major decisions in your life. And Trump loses a vote that would lean to his side when the question of a Presidential subpoena is before SCOTUS.

jbgotcha
jbgotcha

You are the jury pool. God help any victim that has you on their jury. Jesus.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Ride on Sally! I hope he doesn’t report us to Charlie again. Charlie might ban that caustic troll.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Noway, do you feel disrespected if Matt thinks your are not the biggest POS on the board? If I were you I would have my feelings hurt! I know you are an obnoxious POS but that is why you are one of my FAVORITES! Keep it up! Darn, that is a hard earned badge of honor. I was hoping I was edging up the leaderboard like Tiger Woods did this afternoon! Dang another one of my black golfing friends heading up the leaderboard! I was hoping I was ahead of Sally! Sally I don’t want to take away any of… Read more »

Noway2016
Noway2016

The Great Man. Las Vegas. 10pm. Watch and see what’s waiting on The Weenies on Election Day! MAGA!

MattMD_actual
MattMD_actual

Little bitch: Remember our deal on election night!

Noway2016
Noway2016

Lol! I’ll be here. Just like 2016. Now go gas up the Munster Mobile. You have a full slate of funerals tomorrow!

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Noway, don’t be hatin’!

Noway2016
Noway2016

Lol! I just want Herman to be prepared.

MattMD_actual
MattMD_actual

I’m not a pathologist, moron.

Noway2016
Noway2016

You’re either an ME or a funeral director. Maybe Quincy is a better handle?

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

That crowd looks about 100x larger than a Hillary rally! Is Trump’s security detail holding him up like a puppet?

I guess the unemployment rate would have to get to zero before the libs really lose it… Screw folks working. They need more libs and more food stamps! There simply are fewer and few victims for the liberals to exploit. I am almost feeling sorry for them.

Noway2016
Noway2016

She does look like the famously limp Terry Keiser in Weekend at Bernies’. Although I’d rename a remake. I’d call it Hefting The Hag!

jbgotcha
jbgotcha

“ABC News has also learned that Cohen is also cooperating with a separate probe by New York state authorities into the inner workings of the Trump family charity and the Trump Organization”
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/michael-cohen-spoke-mueller-team-hours-asked-russia/story?id=57959664

Uh-oh. Trump is the dumbest mobster ever.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

BJ, did you hear that Trump was laundering more money! Gobs of it! Maybe he can give it all to the Iranians like you know who!

jbgotcha
jbgotcha

Ironically, Trump has been used to launder money for the Iranian Revolutionary Guard.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/03/13/donald-trumps-worst-deal

Caroline
Caroline

That he is. Cohen has apparently been talking to Mueller for a month about everything Trump did. I guess he needs to talk for an entire month considering the number of crimes Trump has committed.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Caroline, you have to quit sniffing glue girlfriend. I am telling you it aint good for you!

Heck, Cohen has had as much time to gin up a story as Feinstein and the libs have over this last minute Hail Mary! I mean no disrespect to Mary being hailed in the colloquialism. Women mean a lot to me. All of them.

Caroline
Caroline

I guess you don’t realize that Mueller has records of every phone call, every text message, every email from the Trump campaign. Mueller has evidence to back up what Cohen is saying. Mueller has the tax returns. Mueller has bank statements. Mueller has everything and all the major players have either turned as witnesses for the prosecution or have asked for immunity while testifying against Trump. Only silly conservatives who can’t tell facts from fiction would think such a thing.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

And he still hasn’t found jack squat!! And if he did, it would have already leaked! Is this what you want to run on? I hate Trump? Hell you folks hate everyone! I guess we all should join the crowd.

Ellynn
Ellynn

It took 3 1/2 years and 8 investigations to discover the Clinton servers.

Caroline
Caroline

Mueller hasn’t finished but he has more indictments and guilty pleas than any other special counsel in history. He akready has put people in jail. He has forwarded cases to SDNY and the NY AG. Cohen also has been cooperating with the NY AG for the state crimes Trump has committed. The total number of people indicted and who have pled guilty is 32 people.

Noway2016
Noway2016

I was especially impressed with that Two Week sentence!!!! I imagine the guy clinking his tin cup across the bars as we speak! LMAO!

Noway2016
Noway2016

Two minutes ’til The Great Man!!

Noway2016
Noway2016

Graciously giving his time to be interviewed by Fox!!

Caroline
Caroline

Apparently Maryland has opened up an investigation into Kavanaugh regarding attempted rape.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Oh good. I will kiss your -a— if whoever opened that non-winnable witch hunt is a radical lib democrat!! Am I right? Awee naww. How did I know? Hey all of you legal beagles …what kind of evidence is there of any crime here? Not a damn bit. None!! So investigate all you want. For a noncrime. I think the crime is trying to frame someone else isn’t it? Well how many FBI crooks have been fired? I forget. How many more are being indicted? The redacted emails showing the corruption coming out!! Oops. Not looking good if you are… Read more »

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Questions of the day…who is most likely guilty of rape or attempted rape? Bill Clinton or Kavanaugh?

Feel free to add comments. This seems to be very timely and relevant…

Which one have you actively supported over the years?

jbgotcha
jbgotcha

Dude. Both of those Mf’ers are sexual predators. There is no universe where a Democrat predator cancels out a Republican one. This isn’t a zero sum game. Kavanaugh has a history of clerking for a predator and has been accused of being an assailant. Everything the GOP has done (having teenage girls sit behind him at his hearing, writing puff pieces about Kavanaugh being a “carpool dad”) was preemptive. They knew this was coming. They just don’t care.

Ellynn
Ellynn

Please name your source Caroline. It is my understanding Maryland the state can’t investigate sexual assault or rape. Montgomery County, Maryland, can’t open an criminal investigation unless Dr. Ford files a complaint

Caroline
Caroline

She may have filed a complaint. I just saw it reported and yes, you are correct. It was the local authorities that were opening up the investigation not the state of Maryland.

Noway2016
Noway2016

The Great Man is now speaking…

Noway2016
Noway2016

Ohhhhhhhhhh, I almost fergot!!! Ol’ Noway got called by a political pollster today!!!! Lied my ass off!!!!! Awwwwwww Nawwwwww!!!! I’d like to dedicate my answers to Senator Nunn and Governor Carter!!!!!

Will Durant
Will Durant

I received a RNC mailer disguised as a poll recently as well. Chock full of multiple choice questions similar to DTM’s whendidyoustopbeatingyourwife ones. I can’t quote it exactly so will paraphrase as I wrote in my responses and sent them one penny taped to the damn thing.

How strongly do you approve of President Trump?
a) strongly approve
b) ecstatically approve
c) would take a bullet for him…

Noway2016
Noway2016

I assume you rightfully checked “c”.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Darn Will that is a penny more than 50% of Americans that pay no federal taxes and are the libs target audience. If we get anything from those Libs at all it is a bonus! Thanks for being a contributor! A penny saved it a penny not spent on buying someone else’s vote!

Will Durant
Will Durant

Nope. I told them as long as they keep offering candidates like President Trump, Jody Hice, and “my name is Forrest, Forrest Kemp”, that I will not be voting Republican. I didn’t leave the Republican Party, it left me.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Hopefully the door didn’t hit you!

Will Durant
Will Durant

Let me ask you a serious question even a I know all you want to do is troll. The obnoxious way you and DTM act on here, why would anyone even want to be in the same room, much less the same political party? Church? Planet?

Will Durant
Will Durant

” I wouldn’t claim — not yet, at least — that Trump is presiding over a fascist government, but he is very clearly using fascist techniques to excite his base and erode liberal democratic institutions, and that’s very troubling.

But the blame there is as much on the Republican Party as it is on Trump, because none of this would matter if they were willing to check Trump. So far, they’ve chosen loyalty to Trump over loyalty to rule of law. ”

https://www.vox.com/2018/9/19/17847110/how-fascism-works-donald-trump-jason-stanley

Noway2016
Noway2016
jbgotcha
jbgotcha

More fools feeding from the trough of greed, corruption, and lies. Their vanity has been manipulated by the dumbest mobster ever.