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xdog
xdog

Aretha’s funeral is scheduled for 9:30-3 today. TRIGGER WARNING: Eric Holder, Bill Clinton, and Al Sharpton are among the very many speakers and singers. Also, Ronald Isley will perform.

https://verysmartbrothas.theroot.com/the-schedule-for-aretha-franklins-funeral-is-the-most-o-1828718192

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

I’m laughing at the notion that Bill Clinton is expected to conform to a 5 minute time-slot.

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

I’m laughing at the prospect of a Fox News freak out if Patti LaBelle is in attendance.

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

Or maybe not, since Fox News viewers think they all look alike.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Scanning from top: even in jest, Race Reference One.

Caroline
Caroline
Caroline
Caroline

Well, more bad news for Trump:
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trouble-trump-disapproval-high-63-back-mueller-half/story?id=57507081

It would seem the undicted coconspirator charge has made a dent along with the news of the National Enquirer holding decades of Trump “secrets” and doing catch and kill for him.
Too bad so many Republicans threw their lot in with him.

bethebalance
bethebalance

A few of us were discussing the hit his approval rating would take from the Cohen and Manafort finding of guilt. From another story on the same poll: “Overall, 60 percent of Americans disapprove of Trump’s job performance, with 36 percent approving, according to the poll. This is only a slight shift from the last Post-ABC survey, in April, which measured Trump’s rating at 56 percent disapproval and 40 percent approval.” So, the approval rating took a 4% hit. With polling error, I think nearly any of our guesses could be more or less right. Bottom line- single digits. But… Read more »

Caroline
Caroline

I thought it would have made zero difference but apparently it made a somewhat small difference. I would say 30-33% is his rock bottom number.

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

Too bad so many Republicans threw in their lot in with Trump?
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Agent Orange within months of taking office had defoliated the GOP’s hiding of the appeals to racism that it required to govern. The year since then has been plenty enough time to distance themselves from Trump. A year is more than generous since it was preceded by a year long campaign that accurately previewed Trump, and before then Trump’s multi-year leadership of birtherism.
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There’s nothing bad about seeing people for who they are; racism takes a back seat to greed and lusting for power.

Caroline
Caroline

Yep, as Max Boot says Trump proves everything bad Democrats have been saying about the GOP is true.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Race Reference Two.

Will Durant
Will Durant

I still prefer fivethirtyeight’s aggregate of approval/disapproval polls. They include the ABC/Post poll and weigh the assorted ones according to their historical accuracy or lack thereof and adjust for their bias.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings
The House forecast on there is also of interest along with some pretty graphs (paging Ellynn!).
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2018-midterm-election-forecast/house

xdog
xdog

The right is late to the party re dumping FB. That’s been a thing for the last couple of years.
https://www.convinceandconvert.com/social-media-measurement/facebook-usage-declined-3-reasons/

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Once my grandparents became active on Facebook, I knew it was time to log off. Place went downhill once you no longer needed a .edu email address.

Caroline
Caroline

It’s become a place for us oldsters for sure. I have thought about dumping it but I have relatives all over the country and it is a good way to keep up with them. So until something comes along that is better I guess I will be on there.

Benevolus
Benevolus

Just to clarify about that 100% tax: The tax is to cover 100% of the amount of federal benefits the employees use. (It’s not a tax of 100% of profit or anything like that.)
Bezos makes about $250M every day and many of his workers are on food stamps.
Pay them a living wage and get them off assistance or pay for the assistance. Seems only fair.

Noway2016
Noway2016

His workers are paid at market rates for whatever job they do. Probably higher. Don’t like it? Go work elsewhere. Next.

Caroline
Caroline

Just because you are willing to accept low wages doesn’t mean everybody has to.

Noway2016
Noway2016

If they have the skills to require higher wages, they will be paid accordingly. Don’t like it, there be the door. Maybe they can get “assistance” from their family? How novel…

armanidog
armanidog

I imagine quite a few have or will have left since the job market is more competitive.
I know UPS had a reputation of being a hard place to work but the pay was higher than elsewhere. And the workers were unionized so they had some leverage with management.
No unions at Amazon but I bet they will be or already have raised their wages.

Caroline
Caroline

Actually that is a fantasy but keep it up.

bethebalance
bethebalance

If we lived in your fantasy world, it would all work perfectly fairly. But you ignore major market forces and imperfections, things like asymmetric bargaining power, etc. But you’re tool old to stop believing in delusions now.

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

Don’t feed the troll.

Benevolus
Benevolus

You are supposed to want smaller government. This is a way to minimize federal poverty assistance. This is something we can agree on.

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

The GOP. The party of smaller government except when it isn’t.

Caroline
Caroline

The whole smaller government thing is just their fake advertising slogan. If you look at the details they promote and the legislation they actually pass it’s all about being Big Daddy.

Benevolus
Benevolus

It’s not a matter of them not liking it. They make so little they qualify for government assistance, which we pay for. Of, course we would pay for it anyway if Amazon had to raise their prices to cover it, but that is how conservatives are supposed to want it to work, isn’t it? It’s just a matter of approach. Conservatives would typically just want to cut welfare and let things work out. But too many people get caught in that, like disabled people. So the other way to do it is to impose a living wage. Then, since people… Read more »

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Benev, I those Bezos was a liberal God. You know his paper disses Trump all day long. Did you notice Trump in his Mexican Trade agreement was proposing a $16 minimum wage for auto manufacturing? Should you be thanking the Orange Cheeto on that point? Could Trump we right again?!

What are those poor Mexicans making down there? Maybe they will quit illegally crossing the border.

ScottNAtlanta
ScottNAtlanta

Thats what I was going to say about the Facebook employees who dont like the liberal culture…dont let the door hit ya.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

This is too easy Scott. Could you imagine ANY COMPANY ANYWHERE telling their liberals to take a hike? Oh God I would love to see the response! Could you imagine ANY COLLEGE ON EARTH telling their sniveling snowflake students or faculty to put on their man pants and take a hike? To grow a pair and quit sniveling? To go overseas a few months and then come back and kiss the ground they are walking on? To grow up?! Could you imagine a conservative Washington Swamp trying to set up and frame Hillary while keeping Trump out of prison?! With… Read more »

ScottNAtlanta
ScottNAtlanta

No one is telling them to take a hike. What I am saying is that if you are so unhappy where you work due to the culture, you are free to go elsewhere. That goes for liberal or conservative. That also goes for any institution you chose to be a part of. If you dont like where you are…go somewhere else.

Caroline
Caroline

Republicans are deciding who to cut loose in the house:
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/08/31/republicans-midterms-congress-vulnerable-lawmakers-gop-805496
Barbara Comstock looks to be the first goner.

Ellynn
Ellynn

If she wasn’t before yesterday, she was after Trump cut the cost of living raise on 55% of the population in her district.

ScottNAtlanta
ScottNAtlanta

He didnt cut it…he ELIMINATED it along with all other raises for all Federal Employees…because “fiscal responsibility” (his words). That made me laugh if not that so many people take him at face value no matter what.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Scott, Fiscal responsibility in Washington by any party is a joke. I agree. Seems like Trump could buy a few votes with the pay hike… Why not waste another 25 billion? Everyone else does. His faster policies are the only way to grow out of this. 2% growth aint gonna cut it. I don’t think anyone disagrees with that. Hopefully technology reduces healthcare costs like it has everywhere else. If so, we will be fine. Technology is cleaning up the environment and helping almost everything else. The end is near panic stricken prognostications are silly. Have they EVER been right… Read more »

Caroline
Caroline

I think she was in pretty bad shape before and since they’ve decided to just cut her money off. At this point they seem to be looking to save people in more Republican districts that are in danger of losing and they are basically writing off the closer districts.

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

Buford City Schools earlier this week, in response to a tape of a racist rant by the Superintendent Hamby becoming public, released a statement that racism isn’t acceptable . The BoE statement omitted the important caveat that the racism has to be public information to be unacceptable. . “You know we lost a strong leader when Mr. Hamby went down,” said Buford City School Board Chairman Phillip Beard in Monday’s meeting. Beard, ostensibly Hamby’s boss, knew about the tape a month before it became public. He may even have been in the room during Hamby’s rant however many months before… Read more »

Caroline
Caroline

Direct tie to the Trump campaign and Russia with the indictment of Sam Patten
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/aug/31/paul-manafort-sam-patten-charged-cambridge-analytica

Noway2016
Noway2016

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LOL!

jbgotcha
jbgotcha

Trump is a money launderer.

Noway2016
Noway2016

So, it’s ok for Obama to use the phrase but not DeSantis? Oh, ok…
https://mobile.twitter.com/MarkDice/status/1035029931653136384

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

DeSantis was using the phrase “monkey this up” as a dog whistle in specific reference to a black man. “Monkey around” is an actual phrase people use. I’ve never heard anyone say “monkey this up” and it’s not some Jacksonville-specific colloquialism. DeSantis’ use is intentional and you’re exemplifyig why. Gillum is presenting an actual policy agenda aimed at Floridians of all races, genders, ages, and income levels. DeSantis’s policy agenda is 1) go on Fox and slobber on Trump, 2) ???, 3) profit. He’d much rather drop little rhetorical dog whistles and spark debates over race than have a substantive… Read more »

Noway2016
Noway2016

Now, ol’ Drew is the Language Poe-leece!!! LMAO! Gillum is a Socialist. And, ummm, errr…folks ain’t buying any more!!!! Keep on whistling, Drew…Care to revise that little prediction you made of Gillum’s one percent victory??? People keep seeing crap like this and he’ll lose by 10!! Awwww Nawwww!

jbgotcha
jbgotcha

Trump is a money laundering thug.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Gillum is currently up 5 in the polls, so I still feel okay in my prediction. It’s hard to lose by 10 in Florida regardless of political party.
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I’d also note that neither you nor DTM nor anyone else in your little posse have ever answered the question: what is socialism?

Jack Fitz
Jack Fitz

Having a mortgage where up to $417,000 of which is backed by the Federal Housing Authority is socialism. Sadly, the DTM/Noway crowd don’t realize the real estate market is socialism.

Also, I just realized, DJT made (inherited) his money based off an industry entirely propped up by socialism. Oh the irony.

bethebalance
bethebalance

Every government service is socialist. Even national defense? Yep- it receives taxes in unequal amounts from individual taxpayers, and redistributes the service equally among taxpayers. There’s a reason why “social” is part of “socialism”– it’s because it shows that you love your neighbor as yourself, even if they have less economic resources than you. The only questions are how and where you draw rules and limits. You simply cannot have a “equal under the law” democratic government without some socialism, because a purely capitalist society would have a government that is comprised by and for only those who can afford… Read more »

bethebalance
bethebalance

I was also thinking I never heard Monkey It Up before. Couldn’t find any common usage or etymology online either.
I also think the ole Socialist boogey man routine won’t work with many under 50.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Andrew instead of throwing out the idiotic term “dog whistle” about De Santis when he CLEARLY did not say anything racist about the gosh darn term monkee! Anyone that is stupid enough to believe that should be blowing on a Meat Whistle! Do liberals have anything to run on other than the racist BS? I don’t believe those idiotic polls for a minute. If anybody wants a stronger economy and job they should give Trump a 100% approval rating . If somebody is sniveling today about the US, it’s because there are a sniveling socialist, and they’re out of power… Read more »

bethebalance
bethebalance

What is socialism again?
You have drool coming out from the corner of your mouth.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Race Reference Three

Noway2016
Noway2016
jbgotcha
jbgotcha

Your president is a criminal, regardless of the Russian election interference. He is scared of all his current mob connections coming to light. He. Is. A. Mobster. You are supporting organized crime.

Noway2016
Noway2016

BJ, I’d recommend a larger dose of Ayahuasca…

jbgotcha
jbgotcha

I mean…I’m not supporting a criminal money launderer like you are. Maybe you should take your own advice homie. How does it feel to be a cult follower of a mobster and criminal? Good? Enjoy it while it lasts.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Seriously, Drew, how long does it take for you to change into BJ, here? I’m picturing Bruce Wayne at the top of the Bat-pole and Batman at the bottom. About 5 seconds? Sound about right?

jbgotcha
jbgotcha

He even talks like a mobster. Going on and on about “flipping”, “John Dean style RATS”. He called Capone “Alphonso” like he’s part of the family. His dad and grandfather laundered money and ran liquor for the mob. Maybe he’s born with it…maybe its Mogolivech.

jbgotcha
jbgotcha

The president is a money laundering criminal and so are all of his family and cabinet members (except Mattis and maybe Kelly). This is what you are supporting so ardently. Sad.

Noway2016
Noway2016

More Lib Hate!!! “Blue Wave?” Ain’t gonna materialize! Too much crap like this! Fish in a barrel, Whiners! Fish in a barrel! LMAO!
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/401754-massachusetts-mayor-boycotting-sam-adams-beer-after-its

jbgotcha
jbgotcha

Your president is a mobster, money launderer, and tax evader. Congrats!!! It’s all gonna come tumbling down..SEMION MOGOLIVECH.

jbgotcha
jbgotcha

You won’t even really refute what I’m saying because you know it’s true. It’s worth it to you to ignore his crimes and history for the sake of screwing over immigrants (in some cases citizens). I just don’t see this working out for you.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

It’s like the flipside of the one-note conservative posters.
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If you’ve got to post the same rant multiple times, then you should probably go elsewhere until you think of something new to say.

jbgotcha
jbgotcha

It’s not so much a rant as it is the unabashed truth. You don’t see it? I would bother posting more sources, but they won’t read them . I just want to keep reminding people of the crux of what Mueller is going to expose. He’s picking them apart just like he did Gotti. It does seem to shut NoWay up to a degree.

bethebalance
bethebalance

I’d rather you post sources. E.g., I liked the interview with Sammy the Bull Gravano (even though it wouldn’t effectively support any argument that Trump was in with the mob). But don’t reduce this site to just Noway, and certainly don’t make his silence your goal. Make raising the bar of information your goal. Sure, Noway may not care for info, but it’s still the high road. And the road of less frustration. Noway is just an incorrigible cheerleader. He’ll keep on cheering until the game is over. And he’ll gloat if he “wins”, and he’ll be just “Oh, well”… Read more »

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Thanks Andrew! The dude is this tiresome has a broken freaking record… Trump’s a mobster Trump’s a mobster…Racist racist… The guy is a repetitive nitwit.

bethebalance
bethebalance

Your rants about socialism and saying Dems have nothing to run on, etc. aren’t any better.
Sometimes you add other things, but half the time I could just cut and paste what you write, because it shows no depth or desire for dialogue.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Let me tell you what is tiresome. The liberal agenda. It is not me. It is the same garbage you trot out year after year. Tax, spend, regulate, control, hate, failure and misery. Some 28- year old babe rattles off some socialist talking points that are as old and ineffective as Karl Marx 150 years ago and she is the new fresh faced exciting Obama? Really? Have you heard this scratched, broken record before? I have. Why don’t you guys educate us how this is any stinking different than anything the last 50 years? And get out the racist chant… Read more »

Ellynn
Ellynn

The 80’s called and they want their misogynistic slang back.

Babe? (rolling my eyes)

Caroline
Caroline

I don’t know. Since reason and logic and facts don’t seem to work maybe that’s how you get through.

Benevolus
Benevolus

“Getting through” is not even among the options here. It’s not your choice, you can’t force it, and it ain’t going to happen.
Act accordingly.

Benevolus
Benevolus

Maybe sort of contradicting myself, but just a public service message anyway:
https://georgelakoff.com/blog/

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

I am giving you reasons, logic and facts why the libs agenda is horrible. Sure its repetitive!! Hell, your agenda is what is repetitive— not me! Tax, steal, spend, jealously, failure. Over and over and over. It is a cancer. It is repackaged as liberalism, socialism or progressivism. Some 28 year old attractive female as clueless as they come comes out spouting liberal talking points and she becomes the NEW OBAMA! Good Lord. Really? Who is stupid enough to buy that? I will take a robust economy, folks working and keeping a few of my hard earned bucks…. Isnt liberalism… Read more »

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Try this one on logic. How many folks get tired of liberals saying that they have Trump this time on collusion? Really. None of you can name a damn thing Trump has done. And you still prattle on. The entire investigation is based on collusion…AGAINST Trump. Hell Bruce Ohr is the next one fired. How can Mueller even look in the mirror?

Benevolus
Benevolus

OK, I’ve had a brandy, so… Some 28- year old babe rattles off some socialist talking points that are as old and ineffective as Karl Marx 150 years ago and she is the new fresh faced exciting Obama? . 1. “28 year old babe”, Meaning what? She’s not credible? 2. “socialist talking points”- Says you. And so what? You are the one spouting boilerplate without any actual rebuttal. Do you even know what her ‘socialist talking points’ are? If so, what is your rebuttal? 3. ‘Karl Marx’? Really? Is that the best you got? Any actual comparisons you would like… Read more »

Caroline
Caroline

DTM all you are doing is Gish Galloping and the problem is that you are confusing your opinion with facts. This is a general conservative problem.

xdog
xdog

From Amy Walter of The Cook Political Report, Getting to Know White Voters, which I hope is part of a series. Walter reports on analysis that strongly suggests that ‘what really distinguishes a Trump-supporting white voter from one who doesn’t isn’t education or even gender, it’s whether or not that voter is evangelical.’

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Benev ole bro’, before we get into this wonderful debate can I ask a question? Has Karl Marx’s basic economic philosophy been debunked as a failure over the last 150 years? This is just a quick google search. This seems like a fair summary to me. Do you disagree? Marx’s work laid the foundations for future communist leaders such as Vladimir Lenin and Josef Stalin. Operating from the premise that capitalism contained the seeds of its own destruction, his ideas formed the basis of Marxism and served as a theoretical base for communism. Nearly everything Marx wrote was viewed through… Read more »

Benevolus
Benevolus

You’re the one who brought up Karl Marx. You’re supposed to be connecting him to “some 28 year old babe”.

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

Interesting link. Fear is mind-twisting. White evangelicals know they’re losing control. They know how they’ve treated others, and fear the loss of privilege.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

After a warm cup of coffee this morning it’s time to address some hate, jumbled thinking and liberal wizardry…this one jumps out at me today…Dave thinks that white evangelicals are losing control and their white privilege and are worried about it…… 1. Who thinks it is a great idea to have no set of rules to live by like the 10 commandments,even if you are not a Christian much less an atheist? Would you rather your kids growing up with a religious background and grounding of sorts rather than an atheist ideology? What the hell is the atheist ideology to… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

No party “openly ridicules religion and religions followers.” I ridicule you because you’re both a moron and an insufferable tool. Your religion has zero to do with it.

Sincerely,

A progressive and proud, practicing Jew

Noway2016
Noway2016

“No party openly ridicules religion and religions followers.” What do you call Obama’s ridiculing “Bitter Clingers,” ? Durrrrr, Oh yeah…

Noway2016
Noway2016

Race reference Four

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Liberal Observation about “Getting to know white voters” Why is this so confusing? I’m white. I don’t feel guilty about it and feel more than qualified to comment on something I know about. White voters are not that different that black voters are they? Don’t we want the same thing for our family and kids? Don’t we have the same DNA? If not please explain. What does the liberal agenda offer anyone, white or black? Higher taxes, confiscation, a lot of words and no follow through…empty promises and bromides. Constant name calling and hatred, certainly nothing about love thy neighbor.… Read more »

Noway2016
Noway2016

Lolol!
Please tell me y’all have somebody undet 70!
Otherwise it’s Lurch: The Sequel!!!
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/john-kerry-wont-rule-out-2020-white-house-run/

armanidog
armanidog

@Noway2016,
I mentioned to a friend that there was this crazy Trump guy on a political forum named “Noway2016” (I thought the name was clever).
They said they remembered a song and video “Noway-2016” that was probably your worse nightmare. I saw it and said “Dang, even the rapper’s name is Noway’s worse nightmare”.
“Noway-2016 by J. Stalin”

Noway2016
Noway2016

Actually as much as like to take credit for the name “Noway2016” and the Trump win being next to impossible, I can’t. I was “Noway” at PP first for years and changed it to the current one when Charlie started GaPol. The name means the same, though, with my seeing Lib policies and saying ‘No wayyyyy…”

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Trump is also over 70. Unlike the Commander in Chief, Kerry’s blood isn’t 90% KFC.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Why you hatin’ on KFC bro? Almost all of your largest minority voting block loves KFC. Don’t be hatin’ on no KFC…You clowns actually hate on white folks too which by pure numbers have to be your largest voting block…white guilt? That aint working! Just a suggestion but if you want to win a few elections you might want to tone down that hate. It is not attractive. The pink hat millions didn’t win a lot of converts either if you ask me. Tearing down the statues….probably not… calling everyone racist, racist…not working… Libs, we know the multiple things you… Read more »

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Are you kidding me!!?? Senator Flippy!? Is he still alive? I can’t wait to see Lurch windsurfing again or “reporting for duty” in his Sailor Suit at the convention! He was worse than Dukakis in that tank. Noway, was that right after the loony losers were booing God!? Where is good ole Zell Miller to sum it all up for us? “Never have 2 folks been so wrong about everything for so long.” A DEMOCRAT SAYING THAT ABOUT THE DEMOCRATIC TICKET AT THE REPUBLICAN CONVENTION! Wonder what he would be saying about which socialist fool they will trot out this… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Interestingly enough, Senator “Flippy” was earning a silver star and 3 Purple Hearts while Cheeto Mussolini was contracting syphillis and complaining about how bad his feet hurt.

Noway2016
Noway2016

All I can say is thank God for the Swift Boat guys. They saved this country…

Caroline
Caroline

Because the GOP collapsing the economy in 2008 was such a wonderful thing wasn’t it?

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

He looks like one of those new black Trump supporters to me…Got his Rod, having a fine time, got his chains, nice low rider jeans, got himself some weed, none of dat “mid”shi– neither…He says N word too much though…that aint how I roll!. That is one nifty laser site on dat 45. Let one of those limp wristed libs come take that gat or try to tax dat chedda! I would expect a few mo ho’s but dats me…He would bus a cap in dat a— at de drop of hat. I could see him in a MAGA hat.… Read more »

Noway2016
Noway2016

LOL! What do Boefa Deeze think of that Cortez gal??

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Boefa Deeze thinks she is fine!

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Charlie why let racially insensitive nonsense proliferate on this website? It can’t be because of clicks or engagement numbers.

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

There’s value in Agent Orange’s defoliation in seeing plainly and understanding the wrong. Seeing the complicity may be just as important.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Charlie, is it racist to scream racist all day long and call everyone you disagree with a racist? Charlie, why do you encourage whining and sniveling on this site? Mommy, mommy. Good Lord.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Anotherrrrrrrrt appeal to the moderators? Shall I Fedex over a Joel Chandler Harris book for you to burn? Silence that Opposition!!! LMAO!!! You simply cannot compete otherwise!!

Noway2016
Noway2016

Race Reference Five

Noway2016
Noway2016

Ellynn, you don’t like “babe.” Is there a term if endearment you do like?

Ellynn
Ellynn

So you’re saying downthemiddle really loves Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez? His use of ‘babe’ is just an endearment, like a pet name he uses for her or something… and the socialist talking points are just their form of pillow talk? Well in that context, I can see your point. Otherwise, the 80’s are still waiting.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

I think it’s pretty obvious they both have a thing for her. Pretty sure the right wing fascination stems largely from the fact she’s a young, conventionally attractive woman.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Hence the use of the term “babe…” You folks need to lighten up!

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Andrew I will admit I do like women. No problem. Its probably an old man thing. White or black. I am not much attracted to man bun, skinny jeans openly gay or transgender types. That is okay if you are. That is just me. Those are God’s children just like all of us and I am not judging them in any way. Its just not my thing. It is probably a natural thing to be attracted to beautiful women, both young and old. I am guilty there. I do prefer them over those with a horrible attitude, talk, look and… Read more »

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

I have nothing against her. She is a pawn. The dishonest media supports her like a double cross your heart Playtex! And for what?

If someone thinks they are going to learn something from her about the economy, worth history or something, they will be sorely disappointed!

I do enjoy hearing the words “like, like, like, wow and cool” though. I am about to don my pink hat and go protest ICE with her. Maybe throw a nerf ball at a cop today.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Yes, because we can all learn valuable things about economics from the guy who can’t even articulate the differences between socialism and communism, let alone define socialism in the first place.
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Folks in glass houses, yada yada yada.
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I think the old man is bitter someone as young as 28 is actually accomplishing something.

Noway2016
Noway2016
downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Yep, a natural progression of the modern lib movement. Were white women allowed to go? They will be next on the list.

Noway2016
Noway2016

But let us harken back shall we to other Swedish endeavors!!

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Dat’s what I’m talkin’ about!

Noway2016
Noway2016

I do bleve this here is what DTM been talkin’ about!
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/boom-times-83-execs-say-business-is-better-76-see-more-growth
You poor Whiners! Awwwwwwwwwww Nawwwwwwwwwwwww!

Caroline
Caroline

Actually that proves our point. Nobody said things were going poorly for the executives. We said it was going poorly for the middle class whose wages have been going down.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Noway, where did you find such a positive article? I have not heard anything good from the liberal media since Trump won. I thought we were in the 2nd or 3rd Great Depression! I thought everyone was miserable…

Sheeze, that sounds pretty good. Wait, those business leaders must be lying! Right Caroline?! Maybe Matt, Andew and BJ can counter this heresy!

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

Toady weirdo Mike Pence dishonored McCain at McCain’s memorial ceremony yesterday with his remark that Trump “respected [McCain’s] service” . We can all save ourselves a couple of syllables and over a dozen keystrokes by abbreviating Trump spokesperson to liar.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Someone help me here. “I respected McCain’s service” is hatin’ on McCain but when libs call him a racist when he is running against Obama that is a sign of love and respect?! Please I need a radical lib here for interpretation. Can Charlie help us with that one too? Dave, this is one of your worse posts ever. Yes, lets save everyone a few keystrokes. Does anyone remember Archie Bunker telling Edith to stifle? Some of these pitiful lib replies deserve the “stifle” remark! Keep them up though because I enjoy the daily laughs! I am sure respected his… Read more »

Will Durant
Will Durant

It is easy to see how Driver’s Ed was your only B in high school. Johnny sure can’t read, at least with comprehension: “…his remark that Trump “respected [McCain’s] service”” — Dave It has been clearly demonstrated by President Trump that he did not respect McCain’s service by his 2015 comments I referenced the other day and most recently his ordering the White House flag back to full staff until urged to do otherwise by his own staff and Veterans groups. If you want to urge others to be banned by comments you think are wrong then you also have… Read more »

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Baloney. How does anyone NOT respect McCain for his service? Trump said dumb stuff about getting captured. Idiotic stuff. But he does respect the guy. Everyone does. Or should. How was McCain a racist per the libs when he was running against Obama? How is everyone a racist that disagrees with the lib position today? It is baloney and you know it. How do folks say that about Trump? It is BS? Name a racist policy. Anyone…. You cant and are caught in a liberal lie. And who made YOU the arbiter of comments? Black and white is not okay… Read more »

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

Andrew may be onto something about Noway and you. There was no mention of race in my comment, nor any in Will Durant’s, yet mention of race, just as in Noway’s response, is prominent in yours. Were the words “black and white” the trigger?
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And a whatabout yet again? It’s tired and mediocre, like the GOP and its base. Try something new.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Race Reference Six

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Tired and mediocre? Racist, racist…just check blog daily.

What positive message will liberals run on in the midterms?

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

Betcha didn’t know you were feeding them. The resulting tricks are sometimes amusing fun, but that’s not the only reason I do it.

Ellynn
Ellynn

Can you please cite which ‘lib’ called McCain a racists to I can educate said fool. Name, date, etc.… I need the facts before I point out the crazy.

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

My comment had nothing to do with race, yet that was the subject of the first three paragraphs of your response. That’s called playing the race card. . You don’t need a translator. You need a tether to reality. McCain repeatedly publicly checked anti-Obama racist Republicans in 2008. Please do identify any prominent liberal calling McCain a racist since then. or since McCain lost the 2000 SC primary because of his African-American grandchild in 2000, for that matter. . Your mention of an affinity o a 1970’s racist TV character is another of your Freudian slips. Do you revel in… Read more »

Noway2016
Noway2016

Race Reference Seven

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

I’ll help you with the next one since you’re running out of fingers. It’s ocho.

Ellynn
Ellynn

This morning as I curled up with my coffee and watched the motorcade drive off from Maya Lin’s masterpiece, I recalled a description of her work prior to its construction… ‘It is like an open scar’, it forces us to recall of a time of one of the most divisive periods in our history’. And yet that ‘scar’ helped a country heal. It also reminds any who walk past the names of those who were willing to die for an ideal greater the us for us. I went to my bookshelves and pulled out the book I got from my… Read more »

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

Inspirational.

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

Trump latest strategy to prepare for law violations Trump inevitable knows will be in Mueller’s report may be taking shape —– diminished capacity. It’ll work two ways at trial, since all Trump supporters on the jury will be able to personally identify with it. . “The wall will be paid for very easily by Mexico. It will ultimately be paid for by Mexico.” Trump remarks Tuesday. Now that’s the way a dealmakers closes a deal with Mexico!. . “For years, Google promoted President Obama’s State of the Union on its homepage. When President Trump took office, Google stopped.” Trump tweet… Read more »

Caroline
Caroline

Actually China did hack into the goverment back in 2015. It appears that the GOP has garnered those hacked data from China as it was unsed the VA 7 congressional race. So now they don’t only have stolen information from Russia they have it from China too.

Of course, Hillary’s server was not hacked but Republicans are so gullible they will believe anything.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Has anyone noticed that you cant even die and have a funeral without libs turning it into a Trump hatefest? It was just like the Wellstone memorial a few years back…Did anyone catch Farrakhan (a virulent racist), Jesse Jackson (a professional racist), Al Sharpton (a low rent racist– that should be in jail for tax evasion) and then there was Bill Clinton ogling that babe (don’t blame him, look who he was sitting with!) and good ole Hillary …. All of the race hustlers rolled into the CNN TV screen all at once. It was an angelic scene. I almost… Read more »

Ellynn
Ellynn

Thank God it’s only the libs that turn death into a political point and hatefest. (written in sarcastic font)

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/after-arrest-of-undocumented-immigrant-in-mollie-tibbetts-case-iowa-town-tries-to-escape-the-inescapable-politics/ar-BBMKFvp?ocid=spartanntp

Everyone has the ability to be an opportunist.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Well you can rest easy knowing ain’t no one gonna be there to make your funeral political.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Andrew…so hateful…My feelings are hurt. That was cold…an DEEP TOO! Thanks Richard Pryor!

Ang, what do you think I would need to do to get Sharpton, Jesse and Screwy Louie at my funeral?

gt7348b
gt7348b

Since no one will read this except the most active posters, I’m curious if any of you have seen the Redbox movie I rented this evening “Death of Stalin” and thoughts you had about an admittedly absurd, weird, fictional movie? I’m particularly interested in responses from NW, ACP, DTM, and Caroline. Well, lots others too especially Elynn because I appreciate the coastal perspective

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Haven’t seen it. But I did enjoy Iannucci’s other film, “In the Loop” both as a comedy and as a pretty cutting depiction of US-UK foreign policy establishments. Of course, Veep is one of the funniest shows on television.

O_O
O_O

That’s a very good movie, and I liked the score very much. The way the film started with an orchestral scene almost gave the sense of an operatic performance through the end. It was kind of a light hearted thriller, and I enjoyed watching all the half thought out schemes barely work.

gt7348b
gt7348b

DTM, regarding the funeral, you do realize McCain, a lifelong Republican and one I voted for, choreographed his own service? He was sending a message and you seem to have missed it. People can love their country, habe genuine differences of opinion, and still respect each other. It isn’t about winning, it is about reaching a compromise all sides can live with and certainly not about one man. It is about shared ideals, a common ground and future we can all work to even as we we argue about how to get there. McCain, for all his faults, got that… Read more »

Noway2016
Noway2016

McCain was right to be pissed at Trump. For sure. A lucky rocket or bullet from the enemy brought him down or he would have come home from his mission like most of his buddies. I get that.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

GT, I think most of us would agree that Trump is a jerk, ahole, and more … and brings most of it on himself! The repubs have been bullied by the press and the PC crowd for years and have turned into a bunch of wimps. Trump is a fighter. Period. Anyone and everyone. Heck, the press, the FBI, NATO, the UN, social media, the swamp, trading partners and by gosh is getting most of them back in line after highlighting massive abuse! They needed it! No one was brave enough to confront them before. I am sure McCain had… Read more »

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

Trump is a fighter all right. But he fights for himself and only for the country when that is co-incident with his personal interests. Even then he’s yet to do a good job. That’s just like many of his supporters.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Yall gonna impeach ol’ Clarence?? Good Lord…the desperation!
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/08/29/barbara-litalien-clarence-thomas-impeachment-801680

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Oh for God’s sake can you racist libs just get lost? They want to eliminate any minority that is not a radical socialist. Is a democrat embarrassed at trying to impeach Thomas? Please defend this! I want to hear from any loon that supports this!

Noway2016
Noway2016

The controversy over “First Man” not showing our American flag being planted on the Moon ain’t going away. Keep in mind it was the literal heart of the Cold War and the Space Race with the Soviets. The prime goal was to get there first. We won. Historically, we did put up our flag. On each mission. It happened. So, after 50 years, why would anyone be offended at that history? And if they are, after all that time, why should we even care? This, on top of all the other Lib actions of recent note, are gonna drive Patriotic… Read more »

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

Heavens yes it’s a controversy. It’s almost as bad as when Obama wore that tan suit.
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I shouldn’t point fingers because my comments are rife with poor grammar and typos, but its spelled Pathetic Americans.

O_O
O_O

“That’s one small step for [a] man, one giant leap for Pro-American historical propaganda in overseas box offices” – Neil Armstrong. Wait, no he said mankind, as in the whole world. Given that the entire run-up and execution of the mission was an American endeavor, and that the setting must necessarily be split between the United States and Outer Space, I think people will be unable to neglect remembering that the United States put people on the moon, even without being hit over the head by the flag. The opposite argument is as silly as getting angry at starbucks cups.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

I bet they reshoot it. Great way to get a lot of publicity. Although the hate America crowd in Hollywood and liberals in general may be bigger than I thought. I got it, they should have Neil Armstrong taking a knee!

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Anyone want to bet Trump gives all of the Federal employees that raise?! This guy is smart. He will be viewed as a hero among Fed Workers for the raise — something that was already in the plans! You might remember a post from yours truly saying why piss off that many voters for just $25 billion That is the cost of the wall you know! Maybe the Trumpster gets both!! Love the guy. Maybe this was what he was doing while also playing golf yesterday and ginning up more votes!! This is almost as smart as the libs running… Read more »

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

So the plan is that people will line up to kiss Trump’s ring because Trump won’t exert himself to withhold something that is customary in a good economy? The problem with that reasoning is that most federal workers aren’t dumb as a bag of hair Trump supporters. . Of course the billions in the process of being doled out to farmers just ahead of an election isn’t “free crap”. They’re mostly white and mostly Trump supporters, so they’ve earned it, am-I-right? . Trump reflecting privately, instead of golfing and tweeting, would have been respectful. But doing so isn’t Trump making… Read more »

Noway2016
Noway2016
Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

The sun entering a cycle when temperatures should cool a little, but instead show no sign of not continuing to increase bolsters the case for global warming. Or course Al Gore won’t be happy. Neither will anyone that cares about the future be happy about it.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Tell me, Dave, how’s that global warming on Mars doing these days?? Global Warming is a money-grabbing, a raid into the pockets of America, Socialist Hoax! Trump ain’t putting up with it. As long as he’s in office! Awww Nawwwww!

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

A carbon tax offseting other taxes would be fiscally neutral.
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Your knowledge of the extraterrestrial doesn’t extend any farther than the seventh planet of the solar system.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Another tax?! Lol!! A true Dim!!!!

Noway2016
Noway2016

As for the mid terms , I guess it’s “NooooBama!” Awwwwww Nawwww!
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/404703-obama-readies-fall-campaign-push-but-some-dems-say-no-thanks

gt7348b
gt7348b

DTM, your response just shows you still don’t get it. McCain tried to remind us we are all one nation. We all love our country, we are a nation built on ideas that we haven’t reached yet and open to everyone. The disagreements are about how to reach those ideas laid out in the declaration of independence and our constitution, but we all share those ideas. That, in my opinion, is why McCain made W and O say nice things about each other yesterday and his daughter said it best – America is already great. And it is the North… Read more »

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

McCain didn’t make W and O say nice things about each other. They’d done that before, and will do so again. The ceremony didn’t need to remind us of that either. It was a reminder that our great nation can persevere despite of a dirtbag leader and his sycophants and enablers.

Noway2016
Noway2016

“…and his sycophants and enablers.” Are those kinda like “Deplorables?”
Dave, if you would, please list all of the names yall have called Trump supporters. I’m losing track.

MattMD_actual
MattMD_actual

GT–

You obviously went to Tech as I recognize that your handle is from the old GT login service.

You realize that you are arguing with an idiot, right? Below is an example of the kind of stuff he posts:

DTM:
“Why you hatin’ on KFC bro? Almost all of your largest minority voting block loves KFC. Don’t be hatin’ on no KFC…You clowns actually hate on white folks too which by pure numbers have to be your largest voting block…white guilt? That aint working!”

I have no idea why he hasn’t been banned already.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Why don’t you get a sense of humor, Him-roid! Silence you opposition!!! Race! Race! Race! It’s all you losers have!!!

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Matt, why would they want to ban little ole me? You are the guy posting hateful crap all day long. Not me. I like pointing out your idiocy and hatefulness! What you highlighted to GT is worth a discussion. Why start hatin’ on KFC? One week its limp wristed attacks on Chick Fil-A—one of the best corporate citizens in any community. The comical sniveling attacks on the burger joint in California that backfires in your face that somehow becomes a demonic target of the twinkees—then you clueless, hateful, overzealous buffoons realize they donate more money to libs than they do… Read more »

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

“Why should so white kid much less black kid feel guilty about being born. What good is that to anyone? Is that child abuse? I have never heard more blithering idiocy in my life.”
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Your words about kids feeling guilty about being born when nobody is writing of it is least useful for you pointing out the white privilege that white kids much less than black kids should feel guilty about being born.
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The good thing about Agent Orange is that we now see people for who they are.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

“Limp wristed” … “twinkees” … “ninnies” …
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Me thinks someone is projecting a little bit. Would explain the daddy issues and the obsession with male cheerleaders.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Nothing about DTM’s content other than more whining about a few charaterizations. Completely vacuous. LMAO!! You got less than nothing. You better come up with something “racist” real quick, my friend. You’re gonna get trounced in two months!

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Hit dog yelps. I see you’re getting your hackles up again.

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

It’s not proven, but there is evidence that connecting anti-gay talk and action with being gay.
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https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/homophobes-might-be-hidden-homosexuals/

Noway2016
Noway2016

And yet you’re the only person on this blog to ever use the term “tu*d burglar” in an anti-gay, pejorative manner!
So, you thought of any more “racist” labels to throw out? It’s been almost 24 hours since you and your “Race Rangers” have opened your yap!

O_O
O_O

You ever read Ta-Nehisi Coates?

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Glad another lib hate effort goes down the drain…

Does anyone get tired of the nonstop liberal hate? Chick Fila A, In and Out Burgers, Yade ya…Whose next? You?

How racist is to have liberals trying to impeach the only black Supreme Court Justice in a generation or two?

Gosh I guess folks are only black if they are liberal…is that how it goes? It sure is confusing to be a politically correct goober these days…

How many of you liberals want to impeach Clarence Thomas? And for what ?

Noway2016
Noway2016

Don’t you Whiners remember both of W’s SecStates were black? Reagan had the first black National Security Adviser? Awwwwww. Nawwwww!

gt7348b
gt7348b

DB, it was a reference to Obama’s comment. And I do think we needed the reminder. I keep looking for those who inspire us to be better than we are and it isn’t our current crop of federal politicians and few on the state level (I will say I’m sorry Olens and Franklin left the scene, and especially Jack from Fayette County).

Now, hopefully back to my lurker status except on issues of transportation. BTW – any thoughts or suggestions for the now forming ATL Board or how to help transit in the rest of Georgia like in Thomas County?

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

I find myself increasingly ambivalent about public transportation after 17 years of being a strong proponent of it. Some of it is concern that johnny come latelys showing up with a small trailer and a little gas money will think they’ve earned an control of the car. Some of it is concern that new technology, e.g. uber-lyft, and self-driving vehicles, etc will reduce use and benefits.
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Thanks for the question. I hadn’t looked into ATL Board details so I do that and get back about it here.
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Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

Comments on the ATL Board, not that they matter on a done deal: . I don’t support state level appointees having one-third of the Board votes (or more if the Chair of the Board, the Governor, has a vote) unless the state will be putting up at least 15% of the money. State transportation money has disproportionately flowed from Atlanta to rural Georgia for the three decades I’ve lived in the state. . The ten districts each appear to me to have about equal population. A map of the districts for those interested: https://www.srta.ga.gov/atl/#6541c-9111 Areas that actually have and locally… Read more »

Noway2016
Noway2016

Turning In-Out Burger into the new Chick Filet!! Boycott a business for exercising their free speech by donating to Repubs?! How American!! Decades of your crap. Stopped.Cold!!! Awww Nawwwww! God, life is sooooo sweet!!
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-08-31/california-liberals-draw-line-refuse-boycott-n-out-after-democratic-official-goes

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

Indeed, stopped cold by Democrats. That’s expected because the party isn’t a cult. Go back to fretting about cakes.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Forgot about your other insult of “cult.” How do you feel about a “cult” whipping your ass for Prez? And please, detail your rage!

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

Me, I’m not a Christian, but I hope I would respond in a Christian manner. . Trump told evangelicals a few days ago there will be leftist violence if the Dems take control of Congress in November. Your talk of violence just days later seems cultish to me. . Nothing to detail. . Trump is of course going to say there will be leftist violence if the Dems don’t win too. Just as Trump said that the 2016 election was rigged if he didn’t win and that there was fraud after he became President. He’s a traitor for undermining trust… Read more »

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Dave it was started by democrats. And they high tailed it out of there when it backfired. You don’t get a gold star for correcting hateful idiocy.

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

Unlike Noway, who often comments about links without reading them, I read the linked story. I didn’t dispute that the boycott originated with a few Dems. I asserted it failed because Dems refused to engage in it.

Noway2016
Noway2016

All you Libs ready for TGM’s non-stop campaign rallies after Labor Day?! Twice a week, minimum, till Election Day!!!! I’m worried y’all will run out of DVR space, though…

gt7348b
gt7348b

Thanks for the thoughtful comments on the ATL. The board districts were actually drawn up by the Atlanta Regional Commission and I completely agree about counties funding transit should have a greater voice. It was actually something the Transit Plannjng Board (a predecessor to the ATL) advocated, but the regional cross county districts were the compromise. Heavy rail to Gwinnett Place has always been the proposal since the 1990 referendum that failed. I personally think something should be proposed for South Gwinnett such as making the Clifton line go to Snellville, or if we had built the Tucker Line, extending… Read more »