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Noway2016
Noway2016

Another effort to Erase Our History…These kids will create ‘their own’ oath. How cute!! I know, I know, I know… how bout the GaPol Libs enter or contribute their own little lines as part of this pledge? With your collective creativity, I look forward to yalls contributions…
http://eagnews.org/parents-fight-back-after-school-drops-pledge-of-allegiance-for-student-authored-oath-to-global-society/

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

That’s nothing. We started every day at DOJ with a prayer to Allah and a loyalty oath to the Deep State.

bethebalance
bethebalance

You clearly have no idea how history works. Maybe you don’t even believe in the principle of evolution. Maybe all you have is One Note, and when others want to sing a different note, it’s all “Kids have no respect nowadays!” It’s called innovation. It’s called diversity. It’s called originality. It’s called American. Quick Q: Do you support anyone writing their own wedding vows or must everyone say the same exact thing all the time? There are infinite ways to love our Country- and our spouses. And we should find innovative and authentic and newly relevant ways to do so.… Read more »

Noway2016
Noway2016

“You clearly have no idea how history works…” LOL!
Ask Mike Dukakis how “history worked” for him after dissing The Pledge…LMAO!

Noway2016
Noway2016

Now, now…Don’t deflect, Balance! Be a Good Little Liberal…” I’ll attach The Pledge, just so you can see… Ok? Here it is.
“I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.”
Ok. Now you just put in your little changes. Be as creative as you want! Express yourself!!!

bethebalance
bethebalance

Oh, I’ll write you one. But I take pride in my work, so it will take time. In the meantime, you history buff, do you know anything about the actual history of the pledge? Spoiler alert (an unsurprising one, as it the issue clearly riles you and other One-Note snowflakes): The pledge was perpetuated in part because of fear of immigrants. Perhaps more surprising: The original pledge a nice salute reminiscent of the Heil Hitler salute. Got rid of that, which shows WHY you embrace the power of evolution. Or would you prefer to still participate in that autocratic fascist… Read more »

Noway2016
Noway2016

Getting rid of America As Founded. That’s yalls goal. You guys been pecking away for decades. But TGM’s election at least put you back on your heels.

You know what I think riles yall up worse than anything he’s done since he was elected? His references to God. To quote Keith Jackson, ‘Whoaaaaaa, Nellie!”

Yall want that I attach another Christian reference from an Inaugural Address? No trouble at all. Really.

bethebalance
bethebalance

I’ve been a Sunday School teacher for over twenty years, and have an advanced religious studies degree. I bring God into any circumstance that I can. In fact, that may take some people initially by surprise, but it is always embraced, even by folks who don’t go to church or synagogue or whatever all the time. It is not God, but Trump’s disingenuous invocation of God, that bothers people. He uses God’s name for his own personal ambition, which is using God’s name in vain. I can think of at least 4 other commandments he has violated, just offhand. But… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

I go to services with some frequency and I was Roman Catholic (grew up Catholic, went to Catholic school, and taught Sunday school for 5 years before falling in love with a Jewish girl and converting) for a long enough chunk of my life to know what went down in the New Testament as well. . Pretty sure DJT ticks the boxes for all 7 deadly sins on a daily basis. Honestly, I don’t think there’s a single moment where I can say the President of the Untied States is not being lustful, gluttonous, lazy, wrathful, greedy, envious, or prideful.… Read more »

Noway2016
Noway2016

“I’m also not aware of any portion of the Bible, Torah, Koran, or any other religious text that says “well, actually, cheating on your wife and paying off your mistresses with hush money is a good thing.”

But you’re ok with said wife (Hillary) destroying said mistresses through The Bimbo Eruptions Unit? Fine, fine example of Christiandom at its best!

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Ah, “whataboutism,” the surest sign that the person you’re talking to doesn’t have anything worthwhile to offer in their own defense.

Ellynn
Ellynn

Why not use the pledge, as originally written? Instead we had to ‘Erase Our History’ and change the words in the 1950’s.

Caroline
Caroline

It would seem that most conservatives have no idea that the pledge was changed.

bethebalance
bethebalance

Per the above comment, Noway seems to think the Founding Fathers wrote the pledge.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Dang Andrew …did you read the part of “casting the first stone?!” Looks like you have both barrels blazing again today my boy. Boils and lightning! Lord, Moses why don’t you send 7 plagues!! Turn the Chattahoochee red! Boy you sure would be a great one to be appointed judge and jury! Seems like you spend most of your days talking down to most of us. Anyone getting visions of Barabas or is it just me? You need to work on the cuss words and bitterness. That is for your own good. Aint a bit of it bothering me. If… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

You need to work on the cuss words and bitterness. . I don’t cuss on here. Please don’t conflate me with other folks or with your invisible friends. . Seems like you spend most of your days talking down to most of us. . Correcting obvious factual inaccuracies or outright lies and requesting that you cite actual evidence is not “talking down” to you, it’s trying to engage you in adult discussion and discourse instead of conspiracy theory. . Was Clinton a dumpster fire? Kennedy…John or Teddy, not sure about Bobby? LBJ? Caesar, Pilot? …most of us? . As I… Read more »

bethebalance
bethebalance

Impromptu study for you: 1) We are commanded to point out what our neighbors are doing wrong, to avoid repressed hatred, and to not enable or be complicit: Leviticus 19:17 — “You shall not hate your brother in your heart: you shall rebuke your neighbor frankly, so you will not share in his guilt.” (Interestingly, this verse is just one sentence before a command to “Love your neighbor as yourself.”) 2) Not everybody takes the criticism well, but how they take it is a reflection of their character: Proverbs 9:8— “Don’t rebuke one who scorns/mocks/ is arrogant, because they will… Read more »

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Anywhere you see liberals infest, this is what you get. Please libs, tell us what the new liberal pledge should be?

bethebalance
bethebalance

Let’s see what this Atlanta school comes up with.
Why do you need a replacement like right now?
Good work takes time to create and simmer.

If you guys were alive in 1892, you’d berate the guy who wrote the pledge, and want on a campaign to have it become popularly used. Who needs some liberal school board telling our children what to say every morning?

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

I pledge to spend this day
and every day
thanking my Creator
for not making me into an impotent old man
who tries to get the attention he doesn’t get at home
by acting like a douchebag in a blog comment section.
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I’ll admit it isn’t my best work. But this is what happens when you put in tight deadlines.
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By the way, DTM, still waiting on evidence that the Mueller investigation was improperly initiated and your response to how Obama specifically raised your income tax rate.

Noway2016
Noway2016
Caroline
Caroline

The problem isn’t Stormy testifying. The problem is Donald is going to have to testify under oath now.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Really?

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

This is great news. We can see who has the biggest boobs! Stormy or the democrats!!

Sorry Stormy!

Ellynn
Ellynn

For those not following along with the Little League World Series, Congratulations to Hawaii. After the weekend your state has had, they need a little pick me up.

bethebalance
bethebalance

I was also super impressed with the sportsmanship and good spirit of the Peachtree City team. Congrats to them also for such an exceptional season.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Amen to that! Brings back great memories of hundreds of ballgames! They aren’t worrying about politics nor should they.

Noway2016
Noway2016
Ellynn
Ellynn

The President took Powell to task in the last weeks for wanting to raise the interest rate, told reporter Powell was going to slow down his economic plan.

Will Durant
Will Durant

I’m going to rise to the resident troll’s bait once again as he has recently admitted that he is only posting here for effect and I do hate playing into that but some of it should be countered. How many times do you suppose Donald Trump recited the pledge prior to dodging the Vietnam War draft 4 times? Or stood for the national anthem in salute of a flag that John McCain fought for in that same war while uttering statements like this about the man in 2015: “He’s not a war hero,” Trump said. “He’s a war hero because… Read more »

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

I don’t know if Trump knows the words to the Pledge of Allegiance, but Trump demonstrated here in Atlanta that he doesn’t know the words to the Star Spangled Banner.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Will don’t make this so easy. Did Cliton write to the Colonel that he detested the military. You guys don’t give a rip about the military. You didn’t vote for McCain. Made fun of George W who was a fighter pilot, Obama did not serve which is fine and on and on. What Trump said about McCain was asinine. What Trump is doing for the conservative agenda is outstanding. Love the economic moves, the tax reform, the focus on job creation, lessening the regulatory burden, the hiring freeze in DC, the judicial moves, the military moves, encouraging small business formation.… Read more »

Ellynn
Ellynn

Things you seem to over look… Obama put forward a corporate tax reform plan 3 times. It was shelved by the GOP. We could have gotten reform and helped the economy sooner, except that would give the democrats a ‘win’. A number of the job creation plans are knock offs of either democrat’s and/or Bi-particane proposals in the house prior to 2017, and Ivanka’s is similar to the one Hillary had listed on her website and Trump trashed in West Virginia. I A large number of funding like military and small business formation bills – could have passed prior to… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Made fun of George W who was a fighter pilot
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George W. Bush wasn’t a fighter pilot, his father was.
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You guys don’t give a rip about the military.
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How so?

Noway2016
Noway2016

You’re saying that W was not part of a fighter group? Never flew/piloted a plane?

Ellynn
Ellynn

He did. Texas Air National Guard – to avoid the draft and direct combat

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

So being a fighter pilot makes you a draft dodger….only in liberal America. How many snowflakes do you are fighter pilots?

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

How many snowflakes do you are fighter pilots?
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Say what now?

Ellynn
Ellynn

Personally – just 1, retired AF (he’s gay too). If you count Night Stalker pilots you can add my neighbor. Can I add the B-1 Bomber pilot I graduated from High School with?

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Flying a plane doesn’t make you a “fighter pilot.” To my knowledge George W. Bush flew training flights as part of the National Guard service, but even those records aren’t clear on how many flights he completed and what duties he performed. To my knowledge, Bush never flew in any active duty context and was not involved in any combat missions.
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So, no, George W. Bush was not a fighter pilot.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

I was about to resort to his name calling. Lets be nice. He is an uniformed boob.

I guess the snowflake press never let it be know that he was a fighter pilot. This is a supposedly informed snowflake. You know how clueless most snowflkaes are. They love the communists in their party and hate the founders.

Andrew, did you ever take an economics course? Did you pass?

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

If George W. Bush is a fighter pilot then Donald Trump is a long haul trucker…
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http://www.thedrive.com/news/8596/president-trump-plays-in-semi-truck-at-the-white-house
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Seriously, how many combat missions did W fly?

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

So was W…idiot.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Cool, want to list the number of combat missions W flew? I’ll wait.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Drew, are you affixing these posts elsewhere, too? You need to be heard, Little Buddy and not just here. Rooftops? Coffee houses? Public squares? Megaphones? Skywriting? Please give me even more hope!!

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

So you can’t answer the question and now you’re shifting to something else.
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Good to know. I take it that’s why you didn’t tell me how much your taxes went up under Obama (because they didn’t) and why you haven’t provided the proof that the Mueller investigation was based solely on the Steele Dossier (because it wasn’t).

Ellynn
Ellynn

I actually did vote for McCain in 2000.
I also give a rip about the Military. I have relatives who have or are serving and I have done pro-bona work for veterans. Dated a Naval officer between 1990-1992. Did the whole Gulf War girlfriend thing while his ship was part of the fleet firing off missiles with the USS Wisconsin.

You really need to stop lumping everyone who does not agree with you or Trump all together under one label.

armanidog
armanidog

Interesting read: “Georgia Election Expert Tells Oconee County Republicans Their Party Should Hold On To Governor’s Mansion” “Recent trends show only a 200,000 vote gap between Republicans and Democrats, Bullock said, so Democrats only need to move a little more than 100,000 votes to win. Bullock said that Abrams, former House minority leader from Atlanta, hopes to make up the vote deficit by mobilizing more minorities. “Sure, she is glad to get any White votes that she gets,” Bullock said. “But her emphasis is going to be on trying to register and then turn out increased numbers of minorities.” Bullock… Read more »

Noway2016
Noway2016

God, we all love you, Armani! LOL! Do you REALLY think any Trump supporter is gonna stay home? I hope you don’t get your heart broken easily. Trump is the only man standing in the way of our country being fundamentally changed for the worse. Yall cannot indict a Sitting Prez. Oops!!! Yall ain’t gonna get 67! Oops! And regarding Stacey. She cannot win. She will not win. Rationalization is a wonderful thing!

Noway2016
Noway2016

Honestly, what is it about the Atlanta mayor’s office that seems to be of perpetual interest to the Feebs?
https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/federal-subpoenas-target-former-atlanta-mayor-kasim-reed-his-brother/733755029

MattMD_actual
MattMD_actual

Come on out and say it. You know that you want to.

The blacks, right?

Noway2016
Noway2016

Nice projection of your bigotry, Dr. Dingleberry! Wow!

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Are you kidding me?! You are one hated filled gas bag.

O_O
O_O

I think changing the name of the Russell building is a great opportunity to highlight how easy and painless it should be to replace memorials honoring segregationists with worthier subjects. I wonder if the Daughters of the you-know-what could ever see their way to replacing Old Joe in Gainesville with a Young John leaning on jet.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Go for it if folks feel better about it…Why not name it Hartsfield Jackson? I have no dog in the hunt. Its like sandblasting Stone Mountain. Have at it. A waste of time. If it floats your boat go for it. It changes nothing.

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

I’m ambivalent about renaming the Senate Office Bldg. Unlike statues that were plainly erected to in the name of racism and to intimidate African-Americans (not all or maybe even most of the statues) where removal is a slam dunk if desired by locals, the Senate Office building was named for Russell’s good qualities of which there were many.

O_O
O_O

I agree that this is distinctly different from the statues in that the intention is to honor McCain and not to minimize Russell. What I mean to say is that this can be good practice for switching this dusty old statue with this modern hero, since Russell’s segregationist views will doubtless come up in popular discussion, it’s an opportunity to show how easily we can find consensus. A federal building named after a senator most Georgians don’t know about for an actual G.I. Joe today, a symbolic (as in, not even a real person) confederate soldier for a popular hero… Read more »

Ellynn
Ellynn

My friend from high school had two of her kids at Marquette doing part of this research.

Worth your time.

https://pilotonline.com/news/local/projects/jail-crisis/article_5ba8a112-974e-11e8-ba17-b734814f14db.html

alpha male
alpha male

Shorter version. Many of Trump’s accomplishments would have come to pass earlier were it not for Obama’s incompetence.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

How so?

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

How many air national guard pilots flew combat missions? Are they all woosies?

Why don’t you tell them that? Love to see that!! How many folks in the Marine corp or Army were never on a combat mission?

How many combat missions did Bill and Hillary participate in when they were protesting in Red Square? ….This is too easy…..

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Where did I call anyone a wuss? . Honestly, you suck at both reading and making sound arguments. The fact you made it through grade school (I assume) is a real testament to the low educational standards of whatever institution you attended. . You used the term “fighter pilot” to imply that George W. Bush completed a level of military service far beyond what he actually did. Flying training missions and doing laps of Houtson in an F-102 a couple times a year is not the same as active duty military service. You know this and, certainly, your imaginary black… Read more »

Noway2016
Noway2016

Nawwwwwww…
He’s just pointing out your side’s hypocrisy and inconsistency wherever it raises its ugly head!!

bethebalance
bethebalance

I happen to agree that whataboutism can be a way to point out hypocrisy. But whataboutism also ignores the original charge of hypocrisy. So, instead of responding honestly to the substantive charge, whataboutism devolves the discussion into an elementary-age playground “I’m not; you are” level of discussion. Because guess what- if you want a world – and specifically any political party- devoid of hypocrisy and imperfection- you will never get what you want. The more mature and productive approach is to acknowledge and address any charge, and then do a whatabout, so that those counter-charges can be addressed. DTM actually… Read more »

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Fair enough Balance. I think all care about the military, but I do think the conservative side of the isle would be consider more “pro” military the other. Is that fair? I think the polls were 54% Trump, 25% Hillary and the other 21% preferred not to vote. All of us are tired of wars not well thought out or implemented as well as they could be. If we fight them, lets use overwhelming force and end them quickly, or maybe not at all. I am for things that work. Party be darned. I just don’t see much from the… Read more »

bethebalance
bethebalance

I’d say that the biggest difference on military and defense is that Dems would prefer to spend less overall on defense, and more on veterans health care, and vice versa. But much of the differences have been exaggerated by marketing/messaging, and frankly, I would pin the Republican messaging machine as painting Dems as “weak” on defense because of their preference for lower levels of defense spending. That said, Dems and Repubs tend to universally defend the bases and military industry contractors in their districts, without fail. And the differences in philosophy and action with regard to which conflicts we are… Read more »

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

I have never heard from a more argumentative, bitter douche bag in my life. You have no sense of humor and call folks liars at the drop of a hat about things you have no idea about. How do you come up with this baloney? I am sure I am not the first person to tell you that. I pray you are better in person….I have not run into many folks like you. Your replies really are some of the reasons I get a chuckle at some of the replies on this blog –to see if folks really think the… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

The term “argument” implies that this is a good faith discussion. It is not. Nothing in your behavior suggests you have any interest in discourse or discussion and none of your posts give the indication you’re even capable of it. You exist to regurgitate the things you’ve read in email chains or had shouted at you by pill-hawking, cash-for-gold hucksters on TV and radio. At no point have you contributed an original thought to this blog. . “Argument” implies this is a discussion between equals. It is not. I think it’s been pretty clearly established that you are inferior. Your… Read more »

Noway2016
Noway2016

Looking at your posts versus DTM’s, Drew, I gotta tell you yours are much more petulant – by far. Insults is all you brought un this last posting. As are most of yours. Name calling and more name calling. And now delusions of self-proclaimed superiority!!! God, you are a genuine cartoon!

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Tweedle-dum riding to Tweedle-dee’s rescue.

Noway2016
Noway2016

“I think it’s been pretty clearly established that you are inferior.” “By the by, my determination that you are not my equal…” I am still howling at this! LOL! I know I’ve mentioned that I’ve got a group of buddies that I meet with on a semi regular basis and that I print off a few of the Lib posts on here to take with me for entertainment purposes. Well, today is one of them days! I’ve called all the boys and said I’ve got one that will have them peeing their britches with laughter! I’ll tape it with the… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

peeing their britches with laughter
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So you’re telling me that you’re incontinent?

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Trump and Mexico have come together today for a trade agreement that is much more favorable to the US. The EU is next week..Canada soon and likely China….This is directed to the liberals on the blog. Is this a bad thing? Were any liberals happy when Tax Reform brought back to the US between 2 and 4 trillion dollars that had been held overseas? How much economic growth and jobs will that help create here? Were any of you disappointed that the corporate tax rate– which had been the highest on earth prior to Trump taking office and was shoving… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

that is much more favorable to the US
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Please explain how this deal is “much more favorable” than our current trade commitments.

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

The explanation may be that Fox News said so.

Ellynn
Ellynn

You need to define Liberal. Is it actual liberals like Andrew, or is it any one who does not agree with you and/or President Trump? As a centralist, I would have liked if they addressed this in Obama’s 2011 corporate reform bill to bring that $2-4 trillion here in 2012. I would have liked it if they had measures in place of how companies could spend repatriated funds (like limiting the no. of share buy backs, CEO pay increases vs. total company pay increases, a cap on dividends issued, wage increases instead of bonuses, M & A guidelines). I would… Read more »

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Ellynn you make solid points. I don’t really think the government controlling how companies spend their own money is actually a good thing. I see almost nothing the government is a very good steward of. It was doing no good overseas and I have been railing about that idiocy for a decade but no one did a darn thing about it until now. You should see an infrastructure bill soon. You might even get a liberal vote or two for that if they can get away from watching Stormy and Amaroso tapes. Seems like they have been against helping the… Read more »

Ellynn
Ellynn

Here’s how the infrastructure bill is going to go if GOP still holds house. Point out the hundred of trillions of dollars needed for infrastructure. Point out how bad the current deficit is. Force the democrats to pick between infrastructure or funding social safety nets while still increasing military spending because you know – veterans, and then force a P3 agreement that is more friendly to corporate investors then the public end users, start messing with alternative funding, like a gas tax increase , a car buyers fee, etc… Reminder, one man’s bargaining chips is another man’s family farm. We… Read more »

Ellynn
Ellynn

A good reference on what is involved in a Public Private Partnership (P3)

https://www.p3world.com/

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

The farmers love Trump and voted for him. So do most workers in this country. The left abandoned them ages ago. Do illegals streaming in the country help the US workers? He is keeping his promises. You will be seeing much more global trade and much fewer tariffs that have been ripping the US off for decades. Is anyone tired of paying Nato’s defense bill? Who had enough stones to confront that too? Maybe some of these sniveling folks will thank him. They can thank him for bringing back 2-4 trillion dollars back here too. What is it about a… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Paying NATO’s defense bill…

Can you explain how NATO works?

Ellynn
Ellynn

The tax codes could had added carrot/stick taxes and or credits to repatriated funds. Example, if you use less the x % of funds on corporate leadership compensation, you get a tax credit to use towards the companies portion of federal taxes of employees.. Or have dividends over X % of repat funds taxed 1 % to the company. Give a credit for x % spent on R & D, prevent employee cutback of dual job holders through M & A for ex years after if repat money is used. Require mandatory job retraining for jobs lost through M &A.

Ellynn
Ellynn

3:41 Flag on White House lowered to half staff. (3 Major Veteran group letters later…)

MattMD_actual
MattMD_actual

It is just amazing that this disgusting cretin is president of this country.

Where is a heart attack when you need one?

Noway2016
Noway2016

Spoken like Hippocrates himself! Do no harm, Him-roid, do no harm! Lol!!

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Have anyone ever seen Andrew and Matt at the same time? Two of the most pleasant folks I have ever run across… I have to hand it to you.

You put the snow in snowflakes. These two sunny personalities deserve each other and are the epitome of radical liberalism. I don’t want to tar the average lib with them. I don’t think the average lib is that horrible.

We don’t want em on our side. Some cancers just need to be cut out. Right Doc?

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

The lowering of the flag to half staff is a demonstration of an immature President, not an admission of a mistake. McCain was “partially to blame” that Trump ordered the flag full staff, according to grifter Pruitt supporter, Trump cultist OK Senator Inhofe. “Show some respect for someone with the emotional stability of a petulant child.” [my snark quote]
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/gop-senator-mccain-is-partially-to-blame-for-controversy-over-white-house-flags/ar-BBMwY9J?ocid=spartandhp
fNMi .

xdog
xdog

Inhofe is also the big brain who brought a snowball to the Senate floor to demonstrate the fallacy of global warming.

Any chance we could return Oklahoma to territory status?

bethebalance
bethebalance

There was no apology- for the flag, for the comment which mocked McCain’s torture. So, no apparent spiritual growth. The Pres. remains a toddler, this time it was just the village that got together and coerced him to at least repent half-heartedly, and do the job that his parents never did. Until the Aunties and Uncles in the Repub party can demonstrate proper guardianship, we’ll be stuck with a petty man-child.

Ellynn
Ellynn

Andrew… I was looking at the new Mexico agreement. Weren’t most of the issues covered had more favorable concession in our favor in the TTP? If that’s the case, wouldn’t staying in the TTP have given us better or equal terms for the Auto Industry? With out the steel and aluminum tariffs.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

NAFTA has a 62.5% rule of origin, which means that a Ford F-150 or Toyota Tacoma can qualify as duty-free if 62.5% or more of the content on an official list of parts was manufactured in the US, Mexico, or Canada. At the start of TPP negotiations, the Obama Administration estimated that the average NAFTA car was just 50% North American made. This was due to cars becoming more electronically sophisticated and the failure of NAFTA’s parts list failing to keep pace with those changes. . The rule of origin on cars/trucks was one of the most contentious parts of… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Just to drive home how comprehensive TPP was: . The agreement had the strongest labor rules of any trade agreement in history, including a complete ban on labor discrimination, protections of the freedom to unionize, minimum wage protections, hour limits, worker safety requirements, and bans on child labor and forced labor. All of these would have made American workers more competitive against Asian competitors that have more exploitative workforces. In addition, the agreement eliminated tariffs on 18,000 US products (including $90 billion in US auto exports); killed regulatory barriers on US exports (like Japan’s non-tariff barriers that keep US cars,… Read more »