Morning Reads – Thursday, August 23, 2018

On this date in 1962, the first live TV program was relayed between the U.S. and Europe through the U.S. Telstar satellite.

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xdog
xdog

The Tornados and Telstar. Some of the comments are pretty good in a Camelot-lost kind of way.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

https://deadspin.com/ohio-state-suspends-urban-meyer-three-games-updating-1828539226
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If Urban Meyer were the coach at any high school in America, he would have been out of a job immediately after this came to light. If Urban Meyer coached anywhere but one of the biggest college football programs in the country, he would have been out of a job immediately after this came to light. A 3 game suspension for spending 3 years covering for an assistant coach who was beating his wife is an embarrassingly weak punishment.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Agree Andrew. And Hillary would be in prison and likely pardoned already for the crimes she committed. If she wasn’t Hillary, we would have never had the FBI do contortions to exonerate her and then turn around and use the intelligence agencies and a dishonest press to try and frame Trump, ruin him, jail him and now destroy his presidency would we?

Just acknowledge the obvious. I did.

Enjoy the Silence
Enjoy the Silence

I think DTM must have a hard-on for Hillary. Only explanation.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Silence, let me assure you there is not enough Viagra on the planet for that to happen! NOWAY! I would become a member of the Log Cabin republicans before that happens!

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

let me assure you there is not enough Viagra on the planet for that to happen
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It’s that broken, huh? Would explain a lot of your rage around here and your love for Alex Jones, Ben Shapiro, et. al. I guess age catches up with all of us.

Enjoy the Silence
Enjoy the Silence

What do you have against the Log Cabin Republicans?

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

I’m talking about college football, you dolt.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

I know. If Urban was not a big deal and successful coach he would be out. If Hillary was a nobody like you and me she would be in jail. Since she is a big deal she has skirted. She should be in jail. Since she is a big deal she likely would have gotten a pardon already. But since she is a democrat and a big deal dozens more committed crimes to protect her dishonest self.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Literally nothing I posted deals with Hillary Clinton in any way. You elected to cram her into this discussion because of your weird obsession with her. Honestly, go seek professional help.

bethebalance
bethebalance

Wait- Wasn’t Hillary the one that co-mingled a personal email account with official business, and then deleted anything personal, and anything that- using the highest standards of ethics- shouldn’t have been co-mingled, even if it was incidental, without consequence, and in line with practice of some other high-level officials?
It’s not like she used a wholly personal device or personal social media account to conduct official business. Oh wait- everyone can do that?

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

Exonerate? She was publicly rebuked largely because of her husband’s meeting on airport tarmac. Remember when a meeting like that was a thing? . It didn’t raise an eyebrow when Trump and his airplane happened to be in the same airport with the Russian oligarch that had previously purchased a less than $50M home from Trump for more than $90M. A home I might add the oligarch owned for a couple of years without ever visiting it, and he may not have yet been visited it. Trump’s nutting up on others tax and bank fraud convictions because his complicity in… Read more »

Noway2016
Noway2016

Within a week…
https://www.mediaite.com/donald-trump/trump-is-will-consider-pardoning-paul-manafort-fox-news-ainsley-earhardt-says/
With TGM’s logic for doing so that it has nothing to do with Mewler’s stated purpose for the Special Counsel’s being formed. No Russia anything. The Deplorables will love it.

armanidog
armanidog

Why wouldn’t he wait for the second federal trial to take place and then issue a pardon? Or would Trump issue two pardons for two separate convictions?

Noway2016
Noway2016

Two separate works just fine.

armanidog
armanidog

What about the possible New York state charges for tax evasion? I imagine if Trump pardons him the NY attorney general will bring charges.
Mr. Manafort will probably be out of work for a while and I imagine a large chunk of his money will be spent on legal fees.
Anyway he should just plead guilty on the federal charges in the second trial if he will be pardoned anyway.

Caroline
Caroline

I think he may have more charges than tax evasion from NY. However, yes, the states have deferred their charges at this time I understand but Manafort could be charged in a state at any time after a pardon. That is if he doesnt’ get on a plane and go to Russia.

Caroline
Caroline

Trump can pardon him but he’s still going to jail. Personally Trump is just stringing Manafort along. Cohen was at least smart enough to go on and handle this all his own. A pardon means Manafort can talk freely but how free depends on how afraid he is of polonium tea.

armanidog
armanidog

Bill Clinton was investigated for 4 years, from 1994 to 1998. The original investigation was for the Whitewater and the death of Vince Foster. No charges were brought against the Clintons and the final report stated that Vince Foster committed suicide due to depression. “The law conferred broad investigative powers on Starr and the other independent counsels named to investigate the administration, including the right to subpoena nearly anyone who might have information relevant to the particular investigation. Starr would later receive authority to conduct additional investigations, including the firing of White House Travel Office personnel, potential political abuse of… Read more »

Noway2016
Noway2016

I thought yall didn’t like it when Ol’ Noway brought up Willy? But I guess it’s all right when yall do? Consistency, people.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Looks to me like Star was over the top too. I don’t like the Feds abusing anyone. Those FBI files and the dirt digging operation of the Clintons using such info is what was scary to me. The Clinton Foundation seems to me a place of massive corruption. An unbelievable amount of influence peddling and abuse. I still want to know why in the hell we EVER sold 20% of our uranium to Russia to resell to Iran much less North Korean. I want to know who and why signed off on that and why in the hell $145 million… Read more »

armanidog
armanidog

” I still want to know why in the hell we EVER sold 20% of our uranium to Russia to resell to Iran much less North Korean. I want to know who and why signed off on that and why in the hell $145 million shows up there.” Here is your answer on the uranium deal: https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/11/06/561587174/the-alternative-russia-scandal “Claim: Clinton played a key role in helping Russia gain control of U.S. uranium supplies. The Russian state nuclear company, Rosatom, bought Canadian mining company Uranium One in 2010. Uranium One had, and still has, uranium mining rights in the United States. For… Read more »

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Dog, that doenst say WHY it was done or WHY Russians sent $145,000,000 to the Clinton Foundation does it? Nope. If the US is such a small player, then WHY IN THE HELL WOULD WE BE SELLING ANY OF IT?! You make my point. What if the Russians send $145 million to the TRUMP FOUNDATION!? What would the press be doing with that much less the libs? Lets say Hillary was being framed by the intelligenc agencies… What if half of the FBI upper levels were fired for abusing their positions yet the investigation kept on going? What would you… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

did half of the FBI get fired over it for being crooks
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You mean to tell me that 17,500 FBI agents have been terminated? I feel like I would have seen at least one news article on that. Care to link to one?

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

I’m more interested in the claim that Russia gave the uranium to Iran, who then gave it to North Korea. What boner pill-hawking weirdo cooked that one up?

bethebalance
bethebalance

I don’t know squat about uranium, but I can opine on why folks contribute to non-profits, or spend money. One possibility is that it very may well have been that Russia was trying to buy access and favors. After all, that’s their M.O. But it certainly doesn’t mean that there was a quid pro quo, and favors were actually granted. (Every campaign contribution does not result in either access or patronage does it? Even some folks who bundle tons of money just want the candidate to pick up the phone when they call.) So maybe Hillary even picked up the… Read more »

bethebalance
bethebalance

ACP, I dunno anything abt North Korea either, but I figured DTM was talking about the arrangement where Russia enriched uranium tfor Iranian civilian power capabilities, with U.S. oversight, so that Iran didn’t need centrifuge, centrifuges which would also give them the ability to enrich to weapons-grade.
In an odd show of the theory of relativity as applied to foreign relations, it shows that we trusted Russia on this much more than we trusted Iran.
Still, that was a pretty clever compromise, where I’m pretty sure no one would benefit financially, but world security would improve.

Caroline
Caroline

He keeps shopping this debunked conspiracy theory because he doesn’t know any better or he can’t read or comprehend.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Andrew can you read UPPER LEVELS of the FBI. Isnt it a clean sweep of the top 4 fired? Maybe just 3 of 4? Uh that is either 75 or 100% of top FBI officials. Hmmmm. And how many others in the huge web of deceit!? HMMMMM> Who was fired for abusing the power in the Ken Star investigations. I don’t remember nary a one. Maybe there were but I don’t think so. Did the upper levels of the IRS abuse their power and target conservative organizations? HMMMMM?? Did anyone get fired? Maybe just early retirement and a slap on… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

So how do you define “upper levels” of the FBI? If you’re counting Peter Strzok, who Deputy Assistant Director of the Counterintelligence Division, then you’re talking about way more than 4 people.
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The Director, the Deputy Directors, the Associate Deputy Directors, the Executive Assistant Directors, the Special Assistant Directors, and the Deputy Assistant Directors of Divisions and Directorates would probably comprise somewhere in the ballpark of 75 folks. You’re telling me 37 of them got fired? Can you list them?
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I’m gonna place a wild guess and say that you can’t.

armanidog
armanidog

OK, the “guilty” ones are gone from the FBI. So now the FBI is “clean”. Same with the IRS.
The Justice department is in charge of Mueller investigation. Is the Justice department corrupt as well or can we let the investigation go forward?
Or are you posting a “Breitbart” reply?

armanidog
armanidog

Willy Wonka?

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

You tell me if the Mueller investigation is on the up and up. What does Manafort have to do with Russian Collusion. What about payments to hookers. What about barging into a shyster lawyers office and getting all of his records…

Looks like abuse to me. Why not look at KNOWN AND OBVIOUS COLLUSION? I know why! The FBI was GUILTY AS HELL OF IT!!

Caroline
Caroline

The Russian collusion part is apparently going to come into play with Manafort’s trial in DC. Can you tell me why he was caught contacting Russian intelligence twice while out on bail if the Russians had no part in what he has been doing?

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Armani,

Might I recommend Slate’s Slow Burn podcast? Seeing as I don’t remember the Clinton saga on account of being in grade school and not caring about politics, it’s been a pretty helpful and insightful series so far:
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http://www.slate.com/articles/podcasts/slow_burn.html

armanidog
armanidog

Thank you.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Andrew, good call. It is a shame you guys were not around to see how freaking sleezy it was and watching the libs circle the wagons and then listen to the same guys castigate Trump for almost nothing. Paying for a hooker? So the hell what? What about rape, banging an intern under a desk in the FREAKING OVAL OFFICE and lord knows what else? Stealing 1000 FBI files for opposition research, not turning over subpeoned documents…and on and on. It has only gotten worse over the years. They have infected the IRS, State and Justice Departments, the IRS, FBI… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

As I’ve asked you multiple times… please show me evidence that supports your position 1) the Steele dossier is “fake,” and 2) the Steel dossier is the sole evidence upon which the Russia investigation is based.

armanidog
armanidog

“Dog, that doenst say WHY it was done or WHY Russians sent $145,000,000 to the Clinton Foundation does it? Nope.” A CANADIAN company owned the mining rights. The CANADIAN company was bought by a Russian company. The US signed off on the deal because: 1. We have plenty of stored uranium. 2. We have enough nuclear warheads to kill everyone on earth several times over. 3. It was not deemed to be a strategic threat (the pentagon was one of the agencies signing off on it). Even the Washington Post and NYT called for an investigation into the 145 million… Read more »

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Balance. You nailed it. BUYING INFLUENCE! Ding ding ding.. What a rat’s nest of influence peddling. And looky who is in charge…. An election scandal in both democratic and republican primaries as well as the general election. Who is in the center of it? Ding, ding ding. Scandal at the FBI, a huge one along with other intelligence agencies and the Fisa Courts and lord know what else. Same rotten fish in the center. How is that possible? Ding, ding ding. Uh, why have those contributions to the Clinton Foundation dried up? If it was such a great organization and… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

90% of the Clinton Foundation’s money went to salaries? Want to provide proof of that claim? Shouldn’t be too hard.

bethebalance
bethebalance

When I look at it, I see Putin in the middle of the election scandals.
And I see a struggling (but honest) Comey in the middle of the FBI investigations.
And when I look at the Clinton Foundation- there’s actual hard numbers you can find yourself.
See all their financials at:
https://www.clintonfoundation.org/about/annual-financial-reports

So, for 2016, look at page 8:
$233M income, $28M for management and admin. That’s 12% Hoss.
https://www.clintonfoundation.org/sites/default/files/clinton_foundation_report_public_2016.pdf

The Emperor has warped your mind, and led you down a path of distrust.
Sure, be skeptical, but there are things called “facts” which can be “verified”.

Caroline
Caroline

Yes, the Clinton Foundation is highly rated by charity rating sources and unlike Trump and his criminal foundation actually releases their tax returns.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Sure we have so much uranium it is coming out of our ears. BS. But why in another article you sent it says we are a tiny player in the industry? Which is it? It doesn’t add up. Never has. Follow the money. Same with Manafort Cohen and the Clintons. Trump has enough money. Cant be bought. He is a jerk and you don’t like him but he doesn’t need the money does he? He has enough to fight back. Finally someone can fight back when the press and swamp is 95% lib. Some California Congressman got in trouble a… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Trump has enough money. Cant be bought.
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Bless your heart. You aren’t really that astute when it comes to Trump’s finances, are you?

bethebalance
bethebalance

Ah, but what abt all that laundered, ill-got Russian money? And Putin.
Certainly at least worth looking into wouldn’t you think?
God, if that pee tape exists, Putin could end Trump with the push of the Send button.

And it’s worth noting that all of the Clinton Foundation’s tax returns are matters of public record, transparent, and subject to vigorous IRS audit if it was warranted. While Trump and Trump Org. returns are still super-secret.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

I think that’s where Putin overplayed his hand. If he publishes the “pee tape.” Mike Cernovich is going to make a video about how getting peed on is what alpha males do and Tucker Carlson is going to spend a week ripping the “liberal media” for “kinkshaming” Donald Trump.
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When he said he could shoot someone in the middle of 5th Avenue and not lose any support. He wasn’t lying.

xdog
xdog

5th Avenue republicans are so 2016. They’re all Helsinki republicans now.

NoParty4Me
NoParty4Me

If Putin sends pee tape before midterms, no one cares. Candidates too busy staying neutral to get elected. What a farce.

armanidog
armanidog

“Sure we have so much uranium it is coming out of our ears. BS. But why in another article you sent it says we are a tiny player in the industry?” From the Department of Energy in 2008: “At the end of 2008, U.S. uranium reserves totaled 1,227 million pounds of U3O8 at a maximum forward cost (MFC) of up to $100 per pound U3O8 (Table 1). At up to $50 per pound U3O8, estimated reserves were 539 million pounds of U3O8. Based on average 1999-2008 consumption levels (uranium in fuel assemblies loaded into nuclear reactors), uranium reserves available at… Read more »

bethebalance
bethebalance

I’m gonna create a response for the conspiracy theorists on this site.
Instead of “tl;dr” (“Too long; didn’t read”)
it’s gonna be: “tf;dr”:
“Too factual; don’t read”.

Not “didn’t read.”
“Don’t read”, as in “I don’t read facts.”

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Funny. Now who is it that still supports the warmed over Karl Marx agenda? Not me!

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

Sean Hannity, the bubble world’s source of facts and news, and Trump cult chief whatabout, Then and Now:
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Then: @newtgingrinch: “Nobody should underestimate how much Paul Manafort did to really help get this [Trump] campaign to where it is right now.” 19 Aug 2016
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Now: Manafort “worked for Trump for only a little over 100 days” in downplaying Manafort being connected to Trump.
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Giuliani, there’s a bus with your name on it.

chefdavid
chefdavid

We are in the bottom 10 for Online Access to Government Spending Data. https://uspirgedfund.org/reports/usf/following-money-2018

bethebalance
bethebalance

Thanks for passing along that link.

Sally Forth
Sally Forth

I can’t believe all this blather and not one mention of the real travesty that’s headline news in our country right now: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/mollie-tibbetts-murder-suspect-ordered-held-5-million-bond-n902941 Illegal alien heinously murders another young SJW American girl, and nobody on here cares enough to even mention it? This murderer says he’s 24 (but we have no way to verify that) and has been in the US illegally for several years, could even be a DACA person for all we know. Another illegal alien has created another Angel Mother in America, and has separated another girl from her family permanently. Where is all the outrage about… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

I can’t believe you’re focusing on that story, when THIS is the real travesty:
http://www.citypages.com/news/us-born-american-citizen-in-country-legally-charged-in-teens-death/491452661

Sally Forth
Sally Forth

Nope, that dog won’t hunt. Everybody knows that we have plenty of US citizens who commit crimes every day — just look at the city of Chicago’s out-of-control murder rate as a stark example. Americans have to deal with American criminals. But it is a bridge too far for us to have to bear the consequences of other countries’ criminals who have no legal reason to be in this country. If existing laws had been enforced and this killer kept out of the US, the Tibbetts family would not be mourning this senseless murder today. Plus all Americans are having… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

the Tibbetts family would not be mourning this senseless murder today
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The same Tibbetts family that has asked people not to politicize this case?
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Her death is a tragedy, but it isn’t magically more tragic because the crime was committed by someone who may have been in this country illegally. Claiming illegal immigration as a cause of this crime requires gigantic leaps in logic.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Horse manure. The guy shouldn’t be here. How hard is that?

bethebalance
bethebalance

Just calling every other news story “blather” and not “real” shows the ugly politicization. Hopefully, folks and the media aren’t using the tragedy to deflect from other stories. It is obviously a tragedy. I recall hearing that some folks had multiple red flags go up about this murderer, with some threats being made or the like. I think it’s time we have a more informed and effective way to deal with red flags like these, and like with flags from folks with mental illness who post that they’re about to commit homicide. Or even if they say they’re going to… Read more »

xdog
xdog

Willie Horton.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Let’s use your logic, DTM. . The guy wouldn’t be here but for the immigration laws, right? Well he also wouldn’t be in that Iowa town if his employer wasn’t gainfully employing him. Should we hold that guy responsible, in some way, for the murder? He also wouldn’t be in that Iowa town if his parents hadn’t bumped uglies all those years ago. Should we now outlaw any heterosexual sex? Should we ban the type of weapon he used to kill her? After all, he couldn’t have done it but for the gun or the knife. . Illegal immigration was… Read more »

Noway2016
Noway2016

With (new) respect. You’re wrong. Sally’s logic is correct. If this illegal, hence the term, had been kept out of this country, she girl would not have been killed bt his actions.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

I’m merely chasing Sally’s logic to it’s logical endpoint. If the guy’s parents don’t have sex, he can’t kill this person. Ipso facto no one should be allowed to have sex ever again.

Sally Forth
Sally Forth

It actually is more tragic because she was murdered by an illegal alien who should never have been in her town at all. If the existing laws had been enforced when this man breached the US border illegally during the Obama administration, this young girl who trusted her country to keep her safe would still be alive today. He also stole some US citizen’s identity which he gave to the company that employed him these last few years. If you or I committed identity theft, we would be put in jail, severely punished for that alone. But it is somehow… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

So let’s ban social security numbers, because if those didn’t exist he wouldn’t have been able to assume someone else’s identity.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Sally! Ding ding ding. More hypocrisy. Good job of identifying more low hanging fruit. NOWAY will be fatter than a darn hawg!

ScottNAtlanta
ScottNAtlanta

I cant believe that after her parents BEGGED people not to politicize her death, you go ahead and do it anyway. Who gives a crap about the parents…they are just tools, right? DISGUSTING
Screw the wishes of her grieving parents, who are the ONLY ones who have any reason to talk about this and have asked people not to.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Sean Hannity kept reporting the Seth Rich “conspiracy.” Alex Jones still thinks Sandy Hook was a hoax. Republicans had formal investigations into whether the Clinton’s “killed” Vince Foster.
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The whacko nutjob gristmill doesn’t care about anyone other than the folks buying their books, beet powder, and boner pills.

Caroline
Caroline

You got that right. There is a reason it is called the wingnut welfare circuit.

Caroline
Caroline

I understand her parents are big in Iowa GOP politics.

Sally Forth
Sally Forth

She was in college in Iowa, but her parents live in California. Her dad had stayed there for several weeks since her disappearance, trying to find his daughter. According to authorities, he finally went back home to CA only a few days before her body was found. And Scott, it is not politicizing her death to feel compassion for her family and to wish that our nation had not failed this beautiful young woman so badly. Liberal fascists trying to shut down public discussion of inconvenient truths by insulting others is a manipulation of public discourse that has gone on… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

So being a “caring American” means telling a grieving family that their feelings and wishes don’t matter?

Noway2016
Noway2016

So, we can’t discuss it? A crime directly caused by an illegal alien. If our laws had been enforced, THIS man couldn’t have killed her. Pure truth.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

It wasn’t “directly” caused by his immigration status.

Noway2016
Noway2016

All I can say after following that logic is that all people on my side please make sure you ask your like- minded friends to make sure snd vote. Our opponents are extremely motivated by hate. They’re gonna show up. Believe that. Having said that, we just gotta have one more than they do. We have to be motivated by our love of the best country ever envisioned. To make sure we’re protected and not torn down like our opponents have been doing for years. We just need one more that they have.

bethebalance
bethebalance

Immigration status doesn’t kill people.
People kill people.

There’s no point in regulating immigration status because criminals who want to illegally obtain an immigration status are going to do it anyways.

All you need to stop a guy with a criminal immigration status is a guy with a lawful immigration status.

^ All of that is obviously sarcastic, but shows the fallacy and inconsistency of logic and arguments as applied.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Drew. Thanks for asking for BJ to move along. I’m sorry you did, kinda. Just following our sides’ back and forth on the murder of the Iowa girl, it’s obvious that we on this site will not agree. But seeing BJ’s emotional reaction, I think, shows the readers who will never post on here, it shows them the vitriol of The Left. I think it may motivate my side to show up even more.

bethebalance
bethebalance

Noway, it was good to see us all backing you up and upholding some community standards.
I certainly wouldn’t extrapolate that emotional reaction beyond that individual, though. Any more than I would say every Republican is a white supremacist.
Gotta maintain the standards, you know.

Sally Forth
Sally Forth

Amen, Noway. And Andrew, it was directly caused by his not having an immigration status — he is an illegal alien, not involved in the immigration process at all. He is a foreign national who broke into this country illegally, which eventually led to the murder of this young American woman.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Funny how this sort of causation logic only applies when a brown person kills a white girl and not when a white dude shoots up a concert, or a movie theater, or a school, or an airport.
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If you think this crime warrants crackdown on “illegal immigrants” then why do Columbine, Aurora, Las Vegas, Sandy Hook, San Bernadino, Orlando, Parkland, Fort Hood, and so many other shootings not warrant a crackdown on firearms?

bethebalance
bethebalance

I don’t suppose his mental illness had anything to do with it? (To me, anyone who wants to murder, or commits murder, has something wrong with them.) I don’t suppose there was any other way to stop him? Of course, maybe he could have been stopped with a different immigration enforcement regimen. Maybe not. Then what do you do? Give up? No, you build in redundant protections. Stuff that would address the red flags this guy raised. And I.D. fraud is also a huge issue- and one avenue that, if it was caught, could have prevented the murder. And that… Read more »

Caroline
Caroline

David Pecker, President of AMI who publishes the National Equirer is now being reported as cooperating with Mueller. Since I’m guessing from reporting that Pecker was in on what was going on that he must have reached some sort of plea deal. He is basically backing up what Cohen said that Trump knew about the illegal transfer of money and campaign contributions.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Betray Trump? Pecker would.

Caroline
Caroline

Right now it’s each person for themselves. Everybody is trying to save their own hide.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Headline: “Trump undone by Pecker… and also some guy from the National Enquirer”

Caroline
Caroline

That name writes 1,000 jokes by itself doesn’t it?

bethebalance
bethebalance

There are some last names that I just don’t understand why people keep.
Maybe he enjoys being a Pecker?
At least Drumpf had enough sense to change that family name. It’s like Dumb and Rump Dumped out a baby.

bethebalance
bethebalance

Also, I should note that when my family immigrated here, they wanted to change their name to a fancy Fortune 500-style name as well.
But, we stuck with our clunky ethnic name.
Not sure if that was the right choice.

Sally Forth
Sally Forth

To use Noway’s term, Mewler is absolutely scraping the bottom of the barrel in his muckraking efforts to somehow destroy POTUS. And the most ridiculous part of this segment of the witch hunt is that any money that might have been involved was private funds that had nothing to do with campaign contributions. Nada. Zip. Calling a cow a puppy doesn’t make it bark. And last time I checked, private citizens can spend their money any way they choose. So this is just another wild goose chase by Mewler in his efforts to fling poo at we know who.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

I’m Mewler. Mueller is dips**t. Do try and keep up.

Sally Forth
Sally Forth

I stand corrected, Mewler! Plez forgive. It’s hard to keep up, since I only get time to drop by here a time or two a week.

bethebalance
bethebalance

If it had a non-incidental benefit to the campaign, he had to report it, regardless of source. But he tried to hide and conceal it. Just part of his M.O.
There is a reason we have campaign finance disclosures.
It’s called “extreme vetting”.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Is it me or does anyone find it funny that a government dick, Mueller, is giving immunity to a guy name Pecker to dig up crap on something that has nothing to do with collusion at all?

Does that by definition make Mueller a piece of male anatomy himself? And a biased one at that?

It is ironic that the non-verified dossier was bought and paid for by the FBI and the Hillary campaign and is being used to get rid of Trump? Does that strike anyone you as ironic, maybe unfair, maybe dishonest?

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

You spend a lot of time talking about penises and men in spandex and male cheerleaders and Log Cabin Republicans.
.
Just an observation.

MattMD_actual
MattMD_actual

He also fantasizes about having male black friends were former Army or Marines.

There is nothing wrong with being homosexual in this country but repressed feelings can manifest themselves in unhelpful ways.

Caroline
Caroline

If you could put down the Hannity crack pipe for a while you would have known about this long ago. Karen McDougal said that the National Enquirer was running what is known as a catch and kill operation for Trump all during the 2016 campaign. The only thing that is really news today is that Mueller has apparently given Pecker immunity to testify. Andrew has asked you a number of times to prove that the dossier kicked off the Trump investigation and yet you never provide proof. Most of us here know that it was drunk Papadapoulos who blabbed to… Read more »

Ellynn
Ellynn

For those who love Juvenalian policical satire – Granted its not Swift, Orwell or Juvenal… However;

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/aug/23/trump-michael-cohen-broad-daylight

Sally Forth
Sally Forth

By all means, let’s do parse every little detail of a candidate’s private life and their private finances. But all we heard were crickets when this took place in 2013:
https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/01/07/obama-campaign-fined-big-for-hiding-donors-keeping-illegal-donations
Where were the “Impeach him! Impeach him!” nutjobs when this went on? Big-time deliberate hiding of donors and keeping illegal donations that actually were his presidential campaign accounts? And of course he spent all those ill-gotten contributions on getting himself re-elected. Where was the outrage by the media and the anarchists in the streets?

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Pretty sure if Obama was hiding payments to porn stars and mistresses there would have plenty of folks calling to impeach him.

bethebalance
bethebalance

I think the difference between the fine as a penalty and the criminal penalty is the willful intent to violate. It looks like Obama campaign reported things, but untimely, i.e. late.
That’s not trying to willfully hide or conceal, or set up a shell corporation.
Also, Cohen’s criminal plea and penalty was mixed in with his other pleas to the other fraud charges.
Also, fwiw, I don’t think the campaign finance violations are grounds for impeachment. But I believe we may yet see good grounds for that. Maybe not. But I will place my bet on YAS.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

We all know why. He is a lib. Millions. Trump already paid his hooker once to go away. A fair exchange. And then he had to paid her once again for to go away. And she didn’t. And now folks say this is a campaign contribution. Utter nonsense. But who cares right? There is a life lesson, maybe don’t hire hookers or be faithful. Seems to be hard to do for many of us. And Trump should be the one impeached. Where is Mueller?

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Um…. you’re not aware of the basic facts: . He paid a porn star hush money for an affair they had shortly after Melania had given birth (that Donald, such a class act). He also enlisted the National Enquirer to pay off a Playboy playmate Donald had an affair with around the same time. That’s two women, neither hookers, who Donald has paid hush money to. Now, these certainly aren’t the only two ladies he’s paid off in his life, but they appear -at this time – to be the only two he paid off with the express intention of… Read more »

Noway2016
Noway2016

Honest question: Drew, do you actually believe the “pee story” to be true? To actually have happened?

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

I’m on the fence. . On one hand, it’s completely consistent with Russian intelligence operations to entrap prominent Americans in compromising situations in order to exploit and/or blackmail them down the line. Further, Trump’s general pattern of behavior toward Russia, and Putin in particular, reeks of someone that’s trying to tread carefully. . On the other hand, it just seems too ridiculous to be true, even for a ridiculous personality like Donald Trump. I think the more likely source of compromising information is Russia’s extensive financial dealings with Trump and the severe amount of debt his company, and him personally,… Read more »

Caroline
Caroline

Republicans were saying back then that Obama should have been impeached because he wasn’t a US citizen.

Sally Forth
Sally Forth

It’s been large — but I’ve gotta get out from behind this computer and hit the dratted afternoon traffic tangle. Noway and DTM, keep trying to bring some balance to this echo chamber!

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

No problem Sally. It is an easy task. When they have nothing to reply we get the usual name calling. Even the libs couldn’t stand the BJ bozo with the salty tongue. Good job folks. Did anyone every ask BJ what BJ stood for?

Noway2016
Noway2016

Lol! Awwww Nawwww!

Ellynn
Ellynn

If wanting ‘Medicare for all’ makes you a Socialists, then 53% of Republicans are socialists.

https://www.axios.com/support-for-medicare-for-all-poll-2018-midterms-2e6da34b-0147-4cb8-83ef-e32f39c1be69.html

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Everyone knows the Republican Party is the home of socialism. Just go read the platform of the Communist Party USA and see for yourself!!! Wake up sheeple!!!

bethebalance
bethebalance

Points

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Andrew, you could not have read that. If so you wouldn’t possibly say that! I am going to post things for the Communist Party website. You liberal wizards see if you agree with them– Comrads!! Lower taxes, less government, more freedom, less regulations…all conservative. Not there. Strong military? Hell no. Borders. Nope. All Conservative. I cant wait to see your responses. I will post later tonight or tomorrow. I have to go whip some tail on the golf course. Not that big a deal. My buddies (oh yea the black and white marines and army guys–no slowflakes) are not great… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

So I just got back from the golf course, you guys. It was the saddest sight. DTM was all by himself on the first tee box. I heard him say “Gee, Marcus! That sure was funny! Can you tell me about your time in the Marines again?” But no one was there, he was just talking to the wind. . Then he teed up the ball and said “alright, Marcus, grip it and rip it” before hooking a ball clear off the fairway. “Great shot!” he exclaimed. . DTM paced around the tee box and lined up another ball “okay,… Read more »

Noway2016
Noway2016

And I thought IIIIIIIII lived rent-free in Drew’s head!! LMAO! Lordy…

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Don’t worry, Noway, I got a big head.

Caroline
Caroline

The story apparently gets worse. Pecker held stories for Trump for over 10 years doing catch and kill. This guy had blackmail power over Trump and probably other people.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/national-enquirer-safe-reportedly-held-damaging-trump-stories-1137160?utm_source=twitter&utm_source=t.co&utm_medium=referral

Noway2016
Noway2016

Caroline, if what you aay is accurate, then it’s Trump’s “common Practice” and won’t qualify as a unique campaign event. So, no crime. His bad past behavior is gonna actually save him in this instance.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Awwwww!!!! Nawwwww!!!!

That’s where you’re wrong my friend. The testimony of Cohen, under oath, is that the payments to Clifford and McDougal were made, at the direction of Individual-1, for the purposes of benefiting the campaign. That’s the rub, mi amigo. That Trump has a long history of being a disgusting pervert doesn’t salvage it.

Noway2016
Noway2016

We’ll see…

Caroline
Caroline

You had to go and get your talking points before you came back here didn’t you? LOL.

MattMD_actual
MattMD_actual

Who the hell is BJ? What do you kids do when I’m off at work all day?

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

I want to personally thank Caroline for doing a great job reporting on all of those Pecker stories! Keep up the good work!

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Andrew, your golf story was a lot more exciting than mine today. We played nine holes faster than How long it took you to come up with that story! I hope you weren’t on the clock because if you were that might be why the government doesn’t get sh— done! I happened to beat Willie, Fred and Bid D (Demetrius ) today. Had a few suds and called it a day! We got a chuckle about all of Trump’s ho’s who were very well paid turned on him! They were much more upset at the ho’s than they were Trump!

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

I don’t work for the govt anymore. Got tired of not being adequately compensated for my work.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

That could explain some latent and not so latent hostility. But not your support of more and more corrupt and inept government encroachment…

MattMD_actual
MattMD_actual

What, Dre and Black weren’t there?

You are such a liar.

How many guys did you bareback in lieu of tips?

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Question… who do you think more Americans are mad at? Trump paying his ho’s well or the ho’s for telling on him ? Would you rather have Jimmy Carter as president who only lusted after women as he said in the Playboy interview and his lousy economic , tax and energy policies, his Cardigan sweaters and fireside chats, telling us that the world is running out of resources…or a guy like Trump who actually went out with plenty of Playboy bunnies, who knows how to create millions of jobs, lower your taxes, unshackled the American spirit, rebuild the military, drain… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

who do you think more Americans are mad at? . Definitely the dude who cheated on his wife and sexually assaulted a number of women. . Would you rather have Jimmy Carter as president . Considering Carter legalized home brewing and, unlike Trump, had a coherent and successful foreign policy… I’d make the swap. At least one wouldn’t be a perpetual embarrassment. . Trump who actually went out with plenty of Playboy bunnies . Figures the guy who admitted to suffering from severe erectile dysfunction would think this is Trump’s crowning achievement. The dude has money and access to lots… Read more »

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Matt, how can you be such a gasbag? Do you get a woody calling folks liars and gay and Nazis and racists when you are totally wrong, have no possible way of knowing, it is not remotely true, and do so with such a petulant, irritable, humorless, and unappealing way? Why are you so pissed. Is your life that miserable? Maybe you could use an attitude adjustment don’t you think? Does anyone else think it might be a good idea or it just me? I don’t think I have called you anything that is not nail on the head. Keep… Read more »

Noway2016
Noway2016

Matt has been here for years. He’s wished for my actual death numerous times. It’s par for his course. As an actual physician, I’d expect some serious intellect, but that has never really surfaced-ever. Just a really sad and pissed off little sawbones!

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

As an actual physician, I’d expect some serious intellect
.
Have you never heard of Ben Carson, or Paul Broun, or Rand Paul, or Ron Paul, or Dr. Nick?

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

What in the world is Dr. Carson if not a sharp, polite unassuming guy? Did I miss something? Pray tell what shortcomings he has.

I will bite on Rand Paul too. Go ahead.

Caroline
Caroline

Rand Paul is on Putin’s payroll. He’s going around trying to reduce sanctions on Putin. Carson is apparently an idiot savant because while he appears to have been a competent doctor he thinks that Joseph of the bible stored grain in the pyramids.

MattMD_actual
MattMD_actual

No kidding. But in the south, some are brought up to think doctors are close to God-like, that they are brilliant. The first two years of med school contains a lot of memorize/regurgitate/forget. Don’t get me wrong, it takes A LOT of discipline but good doctors have to be outstanding diagnosticians.

I mean Tom Price did a good business and then goes to Congress but makes the mistake of working in this goon’s administration.

It is interesting to see the trolls comment on my intellect considering their contributions.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Says the troll who calls people “little bitches…” You’re a joke, Doc. Always have been.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Hmmm, sounds like the Dr. Mattster has forgotten his Hippocratic oath NOWAY….I am sure liberalism helps him with his hypocritical oath no doubt.

There is so much love thy neighbor and do unto others in the modern socialist movement today right?

Those gun-toting Bible- thumping deplorable, irredeemable rubes just make me sick…

MattMD_actual
MattMD_actual

You are a sensitive little bitch, aren’t you?

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Do you get a woody calling folks liars and gay . Based on what you disclosed earlier today, we know that you clearly don’t. . Why are you so pissed. Is your life that miserable? . That’s a rich question coming from the dude who spends more time angrily ranting here than he does with his imaginary black friends. Oops, my bad, your “brothas.” . Let me tell you how upset I am! Not nary a bit . Your lengthy, incoherent, and impotent response begs to differ. . We would love to have them in the log Cabin Republicans. .… Read more »

Noway2016
Noway2016

Does disenfranchisement mean seeing to it they can’t vote?

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Yep

Noway2016
Noway2016

What do the Other Libs on here think of Andrew’s admission that he will take active steps to see to it that Baby Boomers are prevented from voting? Caroline? B? Balance? Matt? Armani? Yall ok with that? Approve of that?

Caroline
Caroline

It’s snark.

bethebalance
bethebalance

Obv snark. Fwiw, though, my father (a Baby Boomer) held his nose to vote for Trump, and has since become disgusted with him. He plans on not voting this November. This whole trend is a natural result of the path the Republican party took. Not just electing him, but with Congress not providing an effective check on him. It will, as many are opining, likely tank the image of Republicans for most every existing generation- Boomers, Xers, Millenials, Zs. Apparently, those born before ’45 are called the “Matures” or “Silents”? Never heard those terms, but those folks might not change… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Old, white, Baby Boomers should lose the right to vote and we should criminalize email chains and dumb Facebook memes so as to better root out the old people slowly destroying our democracy. I’d also support holding these Boomers in some type of camp or detention facility.

bethebalance
bethebalance

Those email chains were the beginning of the end.
Started right alongside AOL.
Vitriolic, devoid of facts.
Probably foreign interference.

And it was Boomers that were eating that crud up, and passing it around.
But they assumed that if it was on the computer, it must be true.

Noway2016
Noway2016

I gotta ask: why do you think DTM is lying about having black friends?

MattMD_actual
MattMD_actual

Because nobody else ever mentions this, you idiot.

MattMD_actual
MattMD_actual

I don’t think “gay” is a slur.

What I am saying is that you are a closet queen. I am trying to help you here.

Free yourself.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Who cares. Uh, if I didn’t know better I would think Matt and Andrew are twins…it is hard to find actual folks with personalities like that…I think there is a professional term for it.

If Matt and Andrew have dogs, do they run from you when you walk in the front door after a long day. Just curious.

Ellynn
Ellynn

Cohen, Pecker, Flynn, Gates… Who will be the next to hold the Title?

https://youtu.be/HEhpJKITHhA?t=13

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Don’t you mean all of these folks fired for abusing their positions of power? Wow, I had no idea this many have been fired already and many more to come. Resignations/Firings – Department of Justice (Non-FBI): •John Carlin – Assistant Attorney General – Head of DOJ’s National Security Division – announced resignation on September 27, 2016 after filing the Government’s proposed 2016 Section 702 certifications on September 26, 2016. The filing does not disclose known FISA Abuses. Carlin is aware NSA Rogers is conducting a compliance review which will uncover the FISA Abuse. The 2016 certifications are scheduled for Court… Read more »

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Oh, don’t forget the State department folks for abusing their positions. Yep, this is on the up and up… State Department: •John Kerry – Former Secretary of State. Received copy of Dossier from Nuland. •Victoria Nuland – Former Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs. Gave green light to FBI Agent Gaeta’s meeting w/Steele in July 2016. Received copy of Steele Dossier in July 2016. May have seen Dossier prior to FBI Leadership. Gave Dossier to FBI, Kerry. Nuland had known Steel since 2014 through Jonathan Winer. Lied about bilateral talks with Iran. •Evelyn Farkas – Former Deputy… Read more »

Ellynn
Ellynn

Nice cut and paste skills.

By the way, you have names listed more then once…

Ellynn
Ellynn
Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Wait. Is this supposed to be a list of people who were fired after some actual finding of wrongdoing? . Because I don’t think “John Kerry” left for suspicious reasons. I think he left because the Administration ended. Meanwhile, a number of folks on that list are still employed and there seems to be no effort to distinguish between folks who leave as part of a transition between administrations (which is something a lot of folks in govt do, not just at Justice or State) and folks who were fired for cause. . Sloppy work. When someone asks for citation,… Read more »

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Glad you found at least ONE person you question on the list….bad news…Senator Flippy is eyeball deep in this BS! Will he get charged with anything? Of course not. Hell McCain is eyeball deep in it. The entire news media knows its a lie they have spread. EVERY democrat knows its a lie and you guys do too! And YOU DONT CARE do you?! Is that being honest? Just face it, look in the mirror and smile. You just want him gone. To hell with an American election. Honesty is a good trait to have. I guess that is why… Read more »

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Ang, a number of those biased buffoons aint fired yet. But a ton have or did the chicken crap resign routine or retire so they don’t have to testify somehow! But for all of their effort you got evidence of some cooter payments, moldy tax evasion charges that have nothing to do with Trump and NOT A SHRED OF COLLUSION! And collusion is not even a GD crime!! But there is illegal collusion! And all on the democratic side. If you dont believe me, look at the 10 page list! Whoop there it is! Do you find it hard waking… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

You said half of FBI leadership has been fired for abuse of power. You then proceeded to copy and paste a list that:
1) Doesn’t come close to naming half of FBI leadership
2) Includes people who are still working at the FBI (which is hard to do when you’ve been fired)
3) Includes people not at the FBI
4) Includes people like John Kerry, Ben Rhodes, and Jim Clapper who either worked in positions that effectively end at the conclusion of the Obama Administration.
.
Like I said, you picked up a dog turd and you’re claiming it’s a reliable source.

Caroline
Caroline

And it lists Sally Yates as being fired for spying on Trump. Sally Yates was fired by Trump for exposing Michael Flynn as a Russian asset.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

She was fired for not doing her job. You seem to do a better job with Pecker stories!

Caroline
Caroline

Yes, you guys define “doing your job” as doing Trump’s dirty work for him not working for the the country and apparently were fine with a Russian asset having access to everything in the government. Sally Yates should be lauded as hero who stood up for America even if it caused her to lose her job.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Good point!

Noway2016
Noway2016

More Conservative Suppression. If you can’t beat them with ideas and are fueled by only hate, well, just suppress, suppress, suppress. For the umpteenth time, what are you Libs so damn scared of?
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/08/splc-hate-group-gets-visa-and-mastercard-to-block-payments-to-david-horowitz-freedom-center/

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Isnt this what socialist and communist countries do NOWAY? Oops. If it walks like…well. Quack quack!

That is enough from me today. I need to prepare for my critical golf match later today…

It is about time to start the communist party drip campaign. We can play the game who said this? The DNC or the Communist Party? Double points if you can identify the ones that BOTH say!

Peace out!

bethebalance
bethebalance

No, communist countries use the power of the State to disempower private parties.
This is a capitalist method where private parties are making their own market-based decisions.
DTM, all else aside, you haven’t yet learned the differences between capitalism and socialism, or communism and fascism, or democrat or republic or libertarian. You could at least try to elevate your knowledge while you’re participating. Otherwise your words will be hollow, and that reflects upon your character.

Noway2016
Noway2016

His character? Lol! Hey DTM, you’re a bad, bad man! Don’t ever change, Balance!

bethebalance
bethebalance

No, not bad.
Hollow, like any words used without understanding of their meaning.
Don’t words mean anything to you, Noway?
Isn’t your word your bond?
If so, use good words.
More importantly, use words goodly.
As in, know the actual meaning of the words that come out your mouth- or fingers if typing.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Thoughts and prayers for the poor poor white supremacist David Horowitz.

Caroline
Caroline

It’s tots and pears 🙂

Caroline
Caroline

Well, another boom and this one before noon today:
Allen Weisselberg, Trump’s longtime financial gatekeeper and the CFO of the Trump Organization, was granted immunity by federal prosecutors in New York for providing information about Michael Cohen in the criminal investigation. Reported in the Wall Street Journal behind a paywall.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

I had time for a quick visit… And damned if there’s not Caroline right on top of another Pecker and Weaselburg story!! You can’t make this stuff up! Thanks Caroline Great work. NOWAY can you think of a better couple of names for some blithering, snowflake liberals?!

Ellynn
Ellynn
Caroline
Caroline

I see the meltdown is happening.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

No Caroline, the meltdown already occurred didn’t it? On the left. And you guys are still grasping at straws. All this drama, how does it help anyone get a freaking job. It doesn’t. You guys could care less about helping anyone other than yourselves. When is the last time any liberal proposed ANYTHING at all that would help a family do a darn thing. I have NEVER seen anything since I have posted things here for whatever that has been. 2 or 3 months. Only a knucklehead would turn over power to a bunch of radical socialists.

Ellynn
Ellynn

Technically, straws (whether being grasped or not) are no longer in vogue.

I post things about jobs, free trade, technical education, adult education and retraining ALL THE TIME. Of course, I’m technically a Centralist with a lean to the the left, not a radical socialist.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

When is the last time any liberal proposed ANYTHING at all that would help a family do a darn thing
.
I proposed locking Boomers in internment camps, which would help families avoid their s***iest relatives.

Caroline
Caroline

I see you’re Gish Galloping again.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Trump Org. CFO has been granted immunity. Hoo boy, Trump’s tweets this weekend are gonna be lit.

bethebalance
bethebalance

Paraphrasing Kellyanne Conway’s words to Chris Cuomo last night:
Forget about the foreign interference in the elections. It’s CNN that’s been interfering in the elections every day.

This admin is such as house of cards. It is only sustainable for a short while. Depending on how long hot air can sustain a false foundation.

Ellynn
Ellynn
Noway2016
Noway2016

Drew mentioned in another thread that management should just eliminate the MRs. Then where else would those conservatives like myself, Sally and DTM, who are blessed but burdened with the Wisdom of Solomon, get to post The Truth and more importantly, point out Lib Hypocrisy? And where else would I get to enlighten and inform the Lib Idiocy? And finally…where would I get to say, “Awwww Nawwww…!”
https://nypost.com/2018/08/24/former-head-of-cdc-arrested-for-groping-woman/
Which Prez appointed this guy? Repub or Dem?

Noway2016
Noway2016

Do you think this guy is friends with Al Frank(L)en?

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Gasp! You mean to tell me you would have to post things that are germane to the topic at hand? The horror!

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

About to touch down at DCA. The approach past the Capitol gets me every time.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Teen girl kills maggot who was harming her mother. Late father taught her how to shoot! Good Girl with a gun!! You think that maggot will ever be able to strangle..anybody…again??
http://www.therepublic.com/2018/08/17/us-teen-shoots-attacker/

Noway2016
Noway2016

I wonder did she sound anything like this?

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

I tear up every time I see that scene! I got’s to know!

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Sure we want the socialist bozos back in charge so they can tax us to death and call us all “turble” names! Not everyone in America is a radical numbnut! We want illegals on every corner and no rule of law. And we already miss the take a knee snivelers! Maybe they can do that before every CNN show!!

Noway2016
Noway2016

A little history lesson. Do yall remember Dukakis? He was up 19 points after his convention. Then he dissed The Pledge. It wasn’t Horton who defeated Mike. It was his lack of respect for America’s Traditions. I do bleve history is gonna repeat!!!

MattMD_actual
MattMD_actual

Little bitch,

You man is going down. Hard. There is nothing anybody is going to be able to do about it.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Looky NOWAY, more TURBLE comments from Dr. Matt! I was thinking NOWAY had shut you guys up this morning —-the silence was golden—but you just had to pop your head up out of the sewer and start name call again and offer nothing!! I literally log on to this blog to laugh at the comical, misguided vitriol from some of you snowflakes! Thanks little buddy, you made my day! Just like Dirty Hairy! Just think of what a perfect lib role model you are. You know if your kids acted like you do, you would whoop dat ass wouldn’t you?… Read more »

Noway2016
Noway2016

Wow! To paraphrase Drew: “The anger is much in this one…”

Noway2016
Noway2016

Such is the life of Sigmoid!!

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Oh, there are folks doing stuff about it right now Matt. Its called the witch hunt isnt it? The Mueller Thug going after anything that is not collusion. The reason is to get Trump. No other.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Oh, there are folks doing stuff about it right now Matt. Its called the witch hunt isnt it? The Mueller Thug going after anything that is not collusion. The reason is to get Trump. No other.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

This is just perfect. Does this sum up the liberal agenda in America today?.

Would you rather Trump pay off a porn star or the libs stealing all of your money, your guns, your safety and your freedom while calling you non-stop names?

You make the call.

CNN’s ratings were recently crushed by the Food Network, the Cooking Channel, and TV shows like “Ancient Aliens” and “SpongeBob SquarePants.”

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Out of curiosity DTM, how much did your tax rate increase under Obama? In other words, what percentage were you paying under Bush and what percentage were you paying under Obama?

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Here is the llist of 21 new taxes from Obamacare…how is that working for you? Higher costs and lousier service. Most folks have deductibles so high they cant afford to use their insurance. Many doctors don’t take it. Any arguments there? http://s3.amazonaws.com/atrfiles/files/files/092712pr–Comprehensive%20Obama%20Tax%20Hike%20List.pdf There are many other tax increases he passed NOT related to Obamacare. There were countless other intrusions on our lives. So many unnecessary regulations that make everything less efficient and more costly to do business and raise a family. I have a massive list…You don’t need to see it… Bottom Line Andrew, if the socialists win the next… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

You’re not answering my question. How did your tax rate go up from Bush to Obama?

Noway2016
Noway2016

Wow!! Helluva list there, DTM!! Andrew, tell us which Obama tax increase was your personal favorite.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Easy. All of them.
.
Now the question for you: how did your income tax rate change under Obama?

Noway2016
Noway2016

McCain dead…

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Andrew, would you like the list of the tax increases by Obama rather than your usual tit for tat?

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

I’ll do that the moment you answer my question:
What was your tax rate under W. Bush and what was your tax rate under Obama?
.
You seem so convinced Democrats want to raise your taxes, let us know how much the last Democrat raised your taxes.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

More murders in Chicago…Do black lives really matter to liberals in Chicago? Why didn’t Obama much less Mayor Emanuel do anything about this? Do they want Trump’s national guard to help clean this up?

Are there ANY conservatives in charge up there? How about any of the other major murder capitals around the country? Why is that?

Don’t you think a few thousand illegal aliens would help the situation?

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/editorials/ct-edit-clearance-chicago-violence-shootings-murder-20180824-story.html

xdog
xdog

From the statement from McCain’s office announcing his passing: “At his death, he had served the United States of America faithfully for sixty years.”

That was the best thing about McCain. He loved the headlines and the maverick label maybe a little too much, and I’ll never be able to completely forgive him for Palin, but no one ever had any doubts about who he worked for.

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

Palin was an acknowledged mistake. One of the great things about McCain was that he would admit and own mistakes going back at least as far as the Keating Five. . It doesn’t appear Lawton’s post on McCain’s passing is open to comments. I would not have tarnished it with this comment: . Remember when Trump said “He’s not a war hero. He’s a war hero because he was captured. I like people that weren’t captured.” . Remember last May when a WH staff member discounted McCain’s opposition to Trump’s CIA nominee (because of the nominee’s connection to CIA torture)… Read more »

Noway2016
Noway2016

Ted Kennedy died on this same day from same disease 9 years ago. And he’s buried in Arlington…