August 17, 2018 6:56 AM HomeMorning ReadsMorning Reads for Friday, August 17, 2018 Morning Reads for Friday, August 17, 2018 By Ginny Morning Reads 159 Comments So many potholes, so little time. Atlanta go boom! Prayers for Mike Bobo. Numbers and pretty pictures. Playing chicken with China? Nothing to see here, move along. This is guaranteed to offend someone, somewhere. No publish for you! I wanna go! I wanna go! Rosie, these will not be. Share this:TwitterFacebookTumblrRedditEmailPrint Related About Author Ginny Get off my lawn. 159 Comments GeorgiaHack What a bunch of worthless links. August 17, 2018 7:43 AM Log in to Reply Noway2016 Please explain. You don’t like the stories Ginny has linked to this am or the links physically do not work? August 17, 2018 7:48 AM Log in to Reply Mr. Bear Aren’t you a little ray of sunshine. August 17, 2018 8:05 AM Log in to Reply ScottNAtlanta I thought all the buildings imploding was cool. I like while the Wachovia Building was coming down some guy is screaming “do it again, do it again”. That was funny. BTW, I am the only one allowed to complain about Ginny’s links around here (Ace of Spades…really? Couldn’t link InfoWars?) August 17, 2018 7:49 PM Log in to Reply Dave Bearse Trump’s military parade is due to legislation with McCain’s name on it. A decent human being would have shown a little gratitude and respect, but Trump isn’t decent, gratitude toward someone not fawning over him is alien, and despots and dictators are the only ones that gets his respect. . “The parade, slated for Nov. 10, is estimated to cost $92 million, the official said. The figure includes $50 million from the Pentagon and $42 million from interagency partners such as the Department of Homeland Security. An initial estimate last month pegged the prospective cost for the parade at $12 million.” . That’s plenty of money for that Space Force float I mentioned a couple of weeks ago. https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/16/trump-military-parade-expected-to-cost-80-million-more-than-estimated.html?__source=twitter%7Cmain . The story says the parade may be next year. 10 Nov is a Saturday when Trump is working hard for us on the golf course. Saturday is a day accommodating for protesters. And Trump could be pouting because of Tuesday election results. What good is a parade if the cult leader isn’t feeling it? My money is on it being next year. August 17, 2018 7:59 AM Log in to Reply Caroline Frankly at this point I don’t think there is ever going to be a Kim Jung-un style military parade for Trump. They keep putting it off and I think they will keep putting it off. Seriously nobody wants the stupid thing except Trump. August 17, 2018 8:50 AM Log in to Reply chamblee54 https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1030422407591485440 Glenn Greenwald contributed this on twitter a few minutes ago. “@ggreenwald No country’s political class, except maybe Israel’s – maybe – exploits and trivializes anti-semitism accusations for cheap political gain as brazenly, cynically and recklessly as the British political class does:” If we were to substitute “racism” for “anti-semitism” ……. August 17, 2018 8:13 AM Log in to Reply Dave Bearse Giuliani threatened Mueller yesterday by saying if he didn’t finish the Russia probe soon they were going to “unload on him like a ton of bricks.” Mueller is no doubt quivering since Giuliani’s legal representation thus far has appeared to be dead weight. August 17, 2018 8:21 AM Log in to Reply Caroline Trumpers are really scared right now so they are lashing out at everybody and everything it seems. August 17, 2018 8:52 AM Log in to Reply Andrew C. Pope Trump’s $92 million military parade has been postponed. With any luck, Trump will be able to use the money saved to pay 90 mistresses to keep quiet about their secret abortions. August 17, 2018 8:47 AM Log in to Reply Caroline LOL. And the money will come from small donors according to Lara Trump. August 17, 2018 8:52 AM Log in to Reply Noway2016 Next the Libs will want to ban baseball bats! https://nypost.com/2018/07/30/brothers-kill-burglar-in-queens-home-cops/ August 17, 2018 8:58 AM Log in to Reply Ellynn Only the aluminum ones. August 17, 2018 10:30 AM Log in to Reply bethebalance I like the pint-sized souvenir ones that are generally only used for memorabilia purposes. August 17, 2018 3:05 PM Log in to Reply bethebalance A rebuttal to that Rasmussen poll about support for Trump among African-Americans: http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/analysis-no-one-third-of-african-americans-don%e2%80%99t-support-trump-not-even-close/ar-BBM2zUU?ocid=ientp Bottom line- looks like the sample size was too small. I wonder if I (or anyone here) can find the crosstabs to see how many African-Americans were asked. August 17, 2018 12:29 PM Log in to Reply Caroline Rasmussen is pretty well known as a terrible polling company. I don’t think they ever show their crosstabs. August 17, 2018 12:46 PM Log in to Reply bethebalance So naturally, the details of the poll are secret. But they can be bought. It looks like the Washington Post at least got to see the details because they were able to comment on the sample size without divulging any trade secrets. But why you shouldn’t trust that number: The NAACP did its own polling about support for Trump among African Americans. And one has to assume they asked enough African-Americans. Released last week, it showed 21% support. https://www.naacp.org/latest/new-poll-nations-competitive-races-may-hinge-trumps-racism/ The rub is that the sample was contained within 61 competitive Congressional districts. I.e. not a representative sample at all, but still a useful one. But you take those 61 districts, ignore the sample and parameters of the poll, and you get this: https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/08/09/naacp-poll-black-americans-support-trump-surges/ and https://hotair.com/archives/2018/08/08/trumps-approval-rating-african-americans-hits-record-high/ Needless to say, hotair.com is full of yes, hot air. And Breitbart and every other like news source was happy to unjustifiably extrapolate from 61 competitive districts to all 435. Not what I would call science, but some of the same old disingenuous political spin, marketed for consumption by lemmings. It’s not that the NAACP poll isn’t useful, though. Just that to be “news”, the headlines and conclusions should be on the actual facts. The articles didn’t even mention the limits of the sample. Readers of Breitbart– you are being lied to, and treated as stupid consumers of clickbait. August 17, 2018 12:52 PM Log in to Reply Noway2016 Wow! 9 month wait for big rigs?! Booming economy! Thank The Great Man! https://www.wsj.com/articles/get-in-line-backlog-for-big-rigs-stretches-to-2019-1534500005 August 17, 2018 2:19 PM Log in to Reply Ellynn Georgia just started this week taking container to the new Appalachian Regional Port from Savannah. That should save the need for about 150 new trucks. August 17, 2018 2:59 PM Log in to Reply Caroline Manafort jury supposed to come in with a decision at 5:00 p.m. today. August 17, 2018 3:54 PM Log in to Reply Andrew C. Pope No. . They’ve asked if they can finish deliberations and go home at 5pm. Probably because they, like me, are sick of working and want to get a start on the weekend. August 17, 2018 4:28 PM Log in to Reply Noway2016 More fakenews from Carolina! Lol! August 17, 2018 4:31 PM Log in to Reply Andrew C. Pope Eh, I think it’s more a “misinterpreted a tweet about jury deliberations.” I’m more than willing to give someone a pass on that. . It’s definitely not the same level as claiming Barack Obama was born in Kenya or Donald Trump has real hair. . . . Side note: I think its pretty incredible this jury isn’t being sequestered. August 17, 2018 4:36 PM Log in to Reply Noway2016 I was actually hoping she was right. Verdict at 5. Pardon at 6! August 17, 2018 5:00 PM Log in to Reply Caroline A pardon does not help Trump at all. Manafort will have to testify against him in that case because he will lose all 5th amendment rights. August 17, 2018 5:08 PM Caroline Yep, I correct myself downthread. The reporting made it sound like the jury was gonna be done at 5:00 today. Since there are 31 charges against manafort I guess this is going to take a while. August 17, 2018 5:09 PM Log in to Reply Noway2016 5th Amendment be danged! It doesn’t matter, Carolina. Manafort has nothing damaging on Trump. Period. Pardon it will be! August 17, 2018 5:12 PM Caroline Mueller wanted to hold back information on the Manafort case to other cases. Manafort was Trump’s campaign manager. There are a lot of questions about what went on during that time and Rick Gates, the start witnesses for the prosecution, was on the Trump campaign the entire time as deputy campaign manager. August 17, 2018 6:39 PM Caroline Welp, are gonna reconvene Monday morning in the Manafort trial. August 17, 2018 5:07 PM Log in to Reply Noway2016 Trump gonna put some Absorbine, Jr. on that signing hand!! Got to keep it all limber for that pardon! August 17, 2018 5:15 PM Log in to Reply Caroline That would probably be political suicide for Trump and the GOP but of course that doesn’t mean they won’t do it. Also Manafort basically admits guilt by accepting the pardon. However as skanky as Manafort is I’m sure that will not bother him one bit. August 17, 2018 6:46 PM Log in to Reply bethebalance Funny how you also presume he’s guilty of money laundering, tax fraud (defrauding the IRS), or whatever the numerous charges are. I guess for you, some maggots are free to commit crimes. August 17, 2018 6:51 PM Log in to Reply Noway2016 I’ve said if he’s guilty, convict him. I’ve also said that nobody was interested in these 13 year old crimes until now. Even the judge said this was only pursued to try amd get TGM. As a result, TGM will pardon. Put on your safety goggles to avoid that upcoming thumb. August 17, 2018 7:40 PM Caroline Are you aware that Manafort has another trial coming up in September? This charges being handled right now are in the Eastern District of VA and no where did the judge say this was about getting Trump? It is the defense that said no one cared about these crimes which of course they are going to say. No matter what Manafort is going back to jail to await charges in DC. August 17, 2018 8:14 PM bethebalance “Nobody was interested” in these crimes: Except anybody who cares about crimes being committed, and specifically people interested in punishing and deterring and preventing white collar crime, and ethics in government. The relevant friends I know take properly registering as a lobbyist, e.g., very seriously, and cases like this fortify their ethics. Plus, sometimes criminals don’t get prosecuted because the Statute of Limitations has passed, but what- we’re supposed to forget about crimes if they happened over ten years ago? Or forget about the tax money he should have paid? Some folks will complain abt Stacey Abrams needing to set up a payment plan for $50K in taxes, but not care about someone who flat out evades millions or more (I’m guessing)? You can cheerlead for a pardon, but in my opinion, you might as well pardon Jack Abramoff or Bernie Madoff (are they still in jail?) Cheating, lying, stealing, all fine as long as you’re buds with the Pres.? (Or, more likely, if your honesty is a threat to the Pres….) August 17, 2018 8:39 PM Ellynn This is a wild read…. https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/she-works-for-trump-he-cant-stand-him-this-is-life-with-kellyanne-and-george-conway/2018/08/15/3b89b82a-9b46-11e8-843b-36e177f3081c_story.html?utm_term=.17fe882c06f9 August 17, 2018 6:22 PM Log in to Reply Caroline I saw that the other day. Kellyanne and George are both gross and they deserve each other. I will have to say though if it ever came down to a divorce all George would have to do is play tapes of Kellyanne on TV to get custody of their children. August 17, 2018 6:47 PM Log in to Reply Sally Forth Ruh Roh….. the conspiracy shoes are falling… https://saraacarter.com/breaking-bruce-ohr-texts-emails-reveal-steeles-deep-ties-to-obama-doj-fbi/ August 17, 2018 8:42 PM Log in to Reply Noway2016 Awwwww Nawwwwww! Lol! Good catch, Sally! August 17, 2018 8:59 PM Log in to Reply Andrew C. Pope I don’t see the issue. Care to explain it? August 18, 2018 8:58 AM Log in to Reply downthemiddle Can someone explain to Andrew how smelly the whole collusion investigation and sham really is? Duh! Have fun watching Ohr get hammered this week and how crooked he and the FBI were and are. Remember the libs celecrated for a day or two the brave Medal of Honor- worthy Strzok was? Only to see what a bizarre lying loser he was and go down in flames. The list is getting longer and longer. How many of these folks getting fired much less jailed count as a good swamp draining? Oh, can anyone give us a shred of evidence of something Trump did wrong? Do we have any evidence that the FBI did wrong? The list will get a lot longer. And some on this blog think this is looking bad for Trump… Really?! Socialism/communism is a great thing? Really? Everyone other than you is a racist? Really? Ruh Roh George!1 August 19, 2018 7:21 PM Log in to Reply Sally Forth Here ya go, Noway! President Lincoln established precedent for dealing with false reporting by the 4th Estate: http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=70018 August 17, 2018 8:51 PM Log in to Reply Noway2016 Let’s hope Trump sees this!!! August 17, 2018 9:01 PM Log in to Reply Sally Forth Ain’t that the truth! Can you imagine military seizing their operations and shutting them down?? That would get somebody’s attention. August 17, 2018 9:08 PM Log in to Reply Noway2016 I’d settle for Trump booting CNN and NYT out of the WH. Penalty for Fake News. He’ll have Sarah send them a news summary at the end of the day! August 17, 2018 9:18 PM Log in to Reply Sally Forth Yeah, I wasn’t seriously expecting POTUS to become Abe. Your idea sounds more likely — no for-profit corporation has an automatic right to be in the WH, especially not heckling the press secty as those guys do. August 17, 2018 9:30 PM Sally Forth Ya gotta love ’em! https://www.timesfreepress.com/news/breakingnews/story/2018/aug/14/georgia-congressional-candidate-sentenced-six-months-jail/476964/ August 17, 2018 9:24 PM Log in to Reply Noway2016 Sally, what political party is this candidate from? I fergot! August 18, 2018 2:57 PM Log in to Reply Sally Forth I believe he’s a Demorat! August 18, 2018 4:16 PM Log in to Reply Noway2016 Awwwwwww Nawwwwwwww! August 18, 2018 4:26 PM Log in to Reply Noway2016 Demo-rat!!! I love it!!! If that was intentional, you’re a freaking genius!! August 18, 2018 4:34 PM Log in to Reply Sally Forth Yup, it was on purpose. Guess I’m a freaking genius! August 19, 2018 6:53 PM Noway2016 Sally, can I steal that? To go along with all my other descriptors of the Dims! August 19, 2018 7:20 PM downthemiddle Awe naw! When he said he hated his county or country, it had to be a lib right? Honestly guys, lets not get too giddy. The longer the rap sheet the better it is for most lib candidates. They can walk in the shoes of the voters they target. Calling the cops all sorts of names probably identified him as a lib too. And thinking he is above the law certainly makes him just like a Clinton! August 19, 2018 7:35 PM Log in to Reply armanidog 50 years from now some kid will read about this stuff happening in Georgia and think, “Man, those were some bad people back then”. “Brian Kemp’s Bid for Governor Depends on Erasing the Black Vote in Georgia It’s working. By MARK JOSEPH STERN AUG 17, 20186:26 PM On Thursday evening, the election board of Randolph County, Georgia, met to discuss a startling proposal to eliminate three-fourths of the county’s polling places months before the November election. A rural, impoverished, and predominantly black county, Randolph has just nine polling locations, all of which were open during the May primaries and July runoffs. The election board may soon shut down seven of them, including one in a precinct where about 97 percent of voters are black. Its plan would compel residents, many of whom have no car or access to public transit, to travel as much as 30 miles round trip to reach the nearest polling place… To understand the brazen attack on black suffrage now occurring in Randolph County, it’s important to remember that Georgia is in the midst of a seismic demographic shift. As whites cease to be the majority in more and more counties, Republicans have clung to power by disenfranchising minority voters. Kemp’s opposition to the Randolph County plan marks the first time that he has adopted an affirmatively pro-suffrage stance. During his nearly eight years as secretary of state, Kemp engaged in mass voter purges, removing hundreds of thousands of voters from the rolls. State officials appear to have singled out black voters in targeted purges. Kemp also canceled or suspended 35,000 voter registrations using Exact Match, a version of Kris Kobach’s notorious Crosscheck program that compares registrants’ information with motor vehicle and Social Security databases. If a single letter, space, or hyphen did not match the database information, the voter application was rejected. Black voters were eight times more likely than whites to have their registrations halted due to Exact Match. Kemp doesn’t need to continue shuttering polling places to disenfranchise minority voters in November. Perhaps most egregiously, Kemp launched an investigation into Abrams’ efforts to register more minority voters despite no evidence of fraud. He used the probe to harass and intimidate voting rights advocates. Later, he refused to register 40,000 would-be voters who had signed up through the drive. Speaking to Republicans behind closed doors, Kemp explained the stakes: “Registering all these minority voters that are out there … if they can do that, they can win these elections.” .., It should come as no surprise, then, that Kemp seems to have played a major role in the Randolph County poll closures. At the meeting on Thursday night, the election board revealed that the move had been encouraged by Mike Malone, an associate of Kemp’s. Malone, who attended the meeting, explained that Kemp—who now claims that the poll closures are a bad idea—had asked him to go around the state and “recommend polling place closures” to various counties. Ten Georgia counties have already taken Malone’s suggestions and closed polling places. All of those counties have large black populations.” https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/08/georgia-voter-suppression-brian-kemps-bid-for-governor-depends-on-erasing-the-black-vote-its-working.html Republicans will have a lot to answer for in the future. I can see the party disappearing in 25 years. August 17, 2018 11:00 PM Log in to Reply Caroline Sunlight on all this is the best solution. It seems people found out about this and were calling the board of elections in Randolph County. It appears to the GOP voter fraud = POC voting. August 18, 2018 5:56 AM Log in to Reply Noway2016 “To understand the brazen attack on…suffrage” Gimme a break. By the way, one of the funniest things I’ve ever seen was a skit on The Man Show when they were wanting to end Women’s ‘Suffrage!’ LOL! All these babes were signing Adam Carolla’s petition to “Stop the Suffrage…” Hysterical!!!! August 18, 2018 7:44 AM Log in to Reply Andrew C. Pope I don’t think you’re in any position to be questioning someone’s intelligence. August 18, 2018 8:48 AM Log in to Reply Noway2016 So, Mewler, what decaying, concrete monuments are you defacing today? Got your pick and acid ready? August 18, 2018 9:01 AM Log in to Reply downthemiddle NOWAY! Wonderful work again… I’m sure the same wizards of smart support Bernie Sanders, karl Marx and the rest of the liberal agenda! Did you notice no one wanted an American flag either? August 18, 2018 2:49 PM Log in to Reply Dave Bearse A reduction in the number of polling places is in order, but the numbers to be eliminated and the process and timing are wrong. . The County’s population is 7,000, of which 20% are less than 18 years old, so there are probably only a few hundred votes cast per polling place in a general election. Randolph County and one or more neighboring counties should be consolidated into one County. August 18, 2018 1:48 PM Log in to Reply Noway2016 Oh, glad to see they’ve replaced the swimsuit competition with the wood-chopping competition! LOL! Question: Guys, Would you rather be stranded on that proverbial island with Stana Katic or Madeleine Albright??!!!?!? Inquiring minds… https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/people/2018/08/17/miss-america-cara-mund-leadership-bullied-manipulated-silenced-me/1019920002/ August 18, 2018 8:00 AM Log in to Reply Andrew C. Pope “Why won’t they let me, a lecherous old man, drool over 20 year old women? Without the swimsuit completion where can I, a creepy old pervert who apparently doesn’t know how the Internet works, see women in bathing suits?” Noway2016 August 18, 2018 8:50 AM Log in to Reply Noway2016 LMAO! Little Sniv…I hope your better half appreciates your sensitivity…I think Alan Alda has found his successor! August 18, 2018 8:58 AM Log in to Reply Andrew C. Pope Seriously though, why can’t you just stare at scantily clad women somewhere else? Why do they have to be parades on TV for you? August 18, 2018 8:59 AM Log in to Reply Noway2016 Too feminine for Miss America?? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PdeqDdBckBo August 18, 2018 10:55 AM Andrew C. Pope Seeing as I don’t freebase Metamucil, I can’t say I understand the reference. . I’m just curious why Noway is so desperate about the swimsuit portion of the Miss America pageant? It’s kind of creepy, especially given his previous position of pro-molesting-16-year-olds. Does Mrs. Noway know that you’re such a lecherous old weirdo? August 18, 2018 11:44 AM Dave Bearse He’s following the lead of his cult leader that walks into beauty pageant dressing rooms. It’ll MAGA. August 18, 2018 1:51 PM armanidog @ Noway So are you taking the role of Frank Burns? : ) August 18, 2018 9:14 AM Log in to Reply Noway2016 No, I believe Little Sniv is taking over the role of Prude as well. Carry on… August 18, 2018 9:17 AM downthemiddle Has anyone seen Andrew and Klinger at the same time? August 18, 2018 10:47 AM downthemiddle Andrew, acting like you’re happy that there is no longer a swimsuit competition is not gonna get you anywhere with the chicks! I just want you to know that… being for male Atlanta Falcons cheerleaders won’t help either… it is only taking a job away from a hot babe… that is very insensitive and anti-woman! The metro sexual movement will not get it done. August 18, 2018 2:53 PM Log in to Reply Andrew C. Pope And posturing online about “hot babes” and snickering about male cheerleaders won’t fill the massive hole created by all the affection your father withheld. . August 18, 2018 3:05 PM Log in to Reply Noway2016 Welllllllll, if it ain’t Dr. Sigmoid Fruit!!!! Dazzle us with more analysis!!!!! Good Lord!!! To repeat what I’ve implored to you on more than one occasion: Sea Kelp!! August 18, 2018 3:18 PM Andrew C. Pope A hit dog yelps, so clearly I’m not wrong. . I feel an immense sense of pity for you Noway. August 18, 2018 3:22 PM downthemiddle NOWAY, Dr. Sigmoid Fruit Cake is spot on! Wonderful diagnosis. August 19, 2018 7:39 PM Noway2016 ““Why won’t they let me, a lecherous old man, drool over 20 year old women? – Bill Clinton, 1998 Thanks for the reminder, Sniv. It seems like today, more than most, you are just Ate Up With Supid! LMMFAO! August 18, 2018 3:02 PM Log in to Reply Caroline Oh, so now you are finally letting us know why you bring up Bill so much. You are jealous! August 18, 2018 3:06 PM Log in to Reply Caroline Questions like that were the inspiration for George Carlin’s men are stupid rant. August 18, 2018 9:38 AM Log in to Reply downthemiddle How long would it be before you killed your self if you were stranded on an island with Hillary !? Be honest… August 18, 2018 1:28 PM Log in to Reply Dave Bearse Why not answer your bud Noway? August 18, 2018 2:02 PM Log in to Reply Noway2016 Well, Greenpeace would push Hillary back into the water and the Professor and I would fix The Minnow!! August 18, 2018 2:52 PM Log in to Reply Andrew C. Pope What’s the purpose of this comment, other than to demonstrate for everyone that you’re nothing but trash? August 18, 2018 2:07 PM Log in to Reply downthemiddle Sticks and stones will break my bones and you a still a —-ck! August 18, 2018 3:12 PM Log in to Reply Andrew C. Pope Insults lose their sting when you can’t spell. August 18, 2018 3:13 PM downthemiddle NOWAY, did Andrew call you a piece of trash? Boy that is deep my brother. It is cold an’ deep too like Richard Pryor used to say… Hateful. Just plain hateful. But at least he didn’t call you a pedophile- loving, racist piece of trash. Maybe he is mellowing out as his snowflake years start to wane. Andrew bad news here… If you are not a sniveling liberal in your twenties some say you might not have a heart (clearly false) and if you are not conservative by the time you are 30, you don’t have a brain. August 19, 2018 7:46 PM Log in to Reply Dave Bearse Gee, that bad news was novel. Delivering it in the fashion of modern conservatism was a nice touch too. Touche. August 20, 2018 1:03 AM Sally Forth Surely even all you liberal socialists have got to be outraged about this. Suing to doxx jurors?!! And suing was more threatening than simply doing it. It’s like the mafia leaving a dead fish on your windshield. Doing it on a Friday during jury deliberations is utterly repugnant. I would say “Shame on CNN,” but they have gone down so far these days that they have no shame. http://thefederalist.com/2018/08/17/cnn-just-sued-government-get-names-addresses-manafort-jurors/ (p.s. please forgive if you respond and don’t hear back from me — GP/wordpress still is not sending me notification of follow-up comments. So the only way I can dialogue is by rechecking the blog, and even that is spotty.) August 18, 2018 1:31 PM Log in to Reply Andrew C. Pope It isn’t “doxxing” and it isn’t anything Fox, WSJ, the New York Post or other organizations also haven’t done. I think the Federalist is attempting to sensationalize something that’s pretty commonplace among crime reporters. They want the names so they can reach out to the jurors after the trial for potential interviews. . August 18, 2018 2:06 PM Log in to Reply Noway2016 Snivler, Jesus, just stop! Lololol! Such pure motives, huh??? They are genuinely the enemy of the people. Trump, per usual, is 100 percent right. They want to intimidate and bring litetal harm to the jurors. August 18, 2018 3:26 PM Log in to Reply Andrew C. Pope Prove it. August 18, 2018 3:27 PM Log in to Reply downthemiddle Noway, prove it, prove it! August 19, 2018 7:47 PM Caroline I guess you are not aware that the judge has already had death threats from Trumpers and has the Federal Marshals protecting him. And with your statement you are admitting that the Trumpers will attempt to murder these jurors. August 18, 2018 3:30 PM Log in to Reply Noway2016 Caroline….Trumpists, as you call them, care not one iota about this trial. It has nothing to do with TGM. Nothing. It’s pure political harassment on a guy that was unfortunate to have worked on the campaign for 90 days. August 18, 2018 3:37 PM Andrew C. Pope Trumpists, as you call them, care not one iota about this trial. . Says the dude currently commenting on it. August 18, 2018 3:38 PM Caroline Why are you so worried about their names getting out then? It’s pretty obvious you are worried about their names getting out because you think Trumpers are going to attempt to murder them. There’s no other rationale for what you are saying. August 18, 2018 3:42 PM Noway2016 I do bleve it was Carolina, who breathlessly called for a “verdict” yesterday at 5 pm, that started all of this. Talk to your underling and keep her in line. August 18, 2018 3:50 PM Sally Forth I guess you’re not aware that the death threats came from the violent far-left and fascist Antifa jerks, not from “Trumpers”. Those anarchists dressed in black with black head/face coverings to conceal their identities while they attacked policemen last Sunday are going to rampage if they don’t get the verdict they want. Yelling “Kill the police!”, “No Border, No Wall, No USA at all!”, “Shut them down!”, etc. of choice chants and acts of violence to stop free speech by anyone but themselves. Surely you didn’t miss seeing or hearing about all that went on by thousands of anarchists, “counter protesting” about 40 people calling themselves Unite the Right who stood peacefully in Lafayette Park. They are on a quest to destroy free speech in this country, and the Marshals are protecting the judge from them — not Trump supporters, who have nothing to do with the trial. The loony left just wants to have their way at everyone else’ expense. August 18, 2018 4:06 PM Caroline https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/17/judge-in-paul-manafort-trial-said-hes-been-threatened.html There is nothing about antifa in this article and frankly why would they want to do anything to people who were going to put Paul Manafort in jail? The only people that would be upset about Manafort going to jail would be Trumpers. Trump is the one that has been attacking the case and it makes no sense that antifa would be doing the bidding of Trump unless antifa is really as it has been rumored that they are Russian agents looking to create chaos. August 18, 2018 4:13 PM Sally Forth CNN is clearly working overtime at intimidation. If CNN wasn’t trying to intimidate the jurors as they headed home for the weekend, they would have waited til the Jury made its decision. But CNN wants to plant the seeds that if they don’t choose guilty then CNN will dig through their lives and drag them through the coals. And anybody who ever turns on the station knows that CNN is definitely not “Trumpers.” August 18, 2018 4:20 PM Caroline Are you kidding? You are going to blame CNN for a guilty verdict when the evidence against Manafort is overwhelming? You obviously did not pay any attention to the trial if you think CNN can decide a verdict. This sounds like something coming from the fevered swamps of Breitbart making up excuses for what they know is a guilty verdict coming down. August 18, 2018 4:25 PM Andrew C. Pope Y’all all sound like idiots. . Caroline, no one is trying to murder anyone. . Sally, this is the same thing the AJC does in local murder cases. It’s called reporting, it has nothing to do with witness intimidation. . Honestly, what’s more plausible, a writer for The NY Times wants to interview a juror after the case to get her version of what happened in deliberations or multiple news organizations are going to threaten the lives of jurors in a white collar crime trial? . I hate to break it to you, but life isn’t like the movies. Y’all all sound completely ridiculous. August 19, 2018 8:11 AM bethebalance Not sensationalize– but weaponize. It’s like taking a pencil off of a writer’s desk, then handing the pencil to a deranged man, and telling him the writer is trying to stab with it. Next thing you know, the office is in chaos. Dangerously irresponsible. August 19, 2018 12:06 PM Log in to Reply bethebalance I also think it’s telling that the allegation that the media is trying to dox the jurors is kind of buried in the middle of the article, and not even directly asserted. That’s because there are plenty of lawyers who know they couldn’t blatantly outright say that the media will be doxxing– because that would be called libel. But they sure do dance on that line. All that said, if I were the judge, I would allow only limited questioning of the jurors, on conditions of anonymity, and no publication of their names and addresses. There is just too much politically-driven craziness out there and these folks should not bear one iota of risk for their public service. August 19, 2018 12:16 PM Log in to Reply Andrew C. Pope It’s no wonder we’ve reached the point where folks are taking AR-15s into pizza restaurants trying to uncover non-existent child sex rings. . This hyperbolic, vitriolic, sensationalistic media environment we’re in really needs to be addressed by the social media services that give nonsense like this oxygen. As Caroline, Noway, DTM, and Sally have shown… buying into and regurgitating nonsense is a bipartisan problem. . This site promised that the comment threads would be heavily moderated. I don’t see that happening when folks can post paragraph after paragraph of vitriol and conspiracy. August 19, 2018 12:45 PM Dave Bearse Speculation is that Trump has other security clearances drafted and ready to alter the news cycle. There are many more to draft though, since Omarosa has 200 tapes. August 18, 2018 2:14 PM Log in to Reply Caroline Apparently not only does she have tapes but she has video recordings and text messages. A whole stockpile of stuff as reported by the AP. August 18, 2018 2:40 PM Log in to Reply Sally Forth If true, that all just proves that she is a criminal who breached national security by recording audio or video inside the White House and official meetings. Especially sneaking devices into the WH Situation Room. The loony left is sinking pretty low when they condone such a piece of low-life as credible sourcing. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45174890 August 18, 2018 4:29 PM Log in to Reply Caroline I don’t think Trump wants to go there. There’s a thing called discovery which would be deadly for him. If the situation room is a problem then Kelly is in trouble too. Do you really think Omarosa had the top level security clearance to even go into the situation room in the first place? What was Kelly trying to hide and what was he trying to do? This situation involves more people than just Omarosa. Omarosa has tapes. You don’t have to take her word on anything. August 18, 2018 4:39 PM Log in to Reply downthemiddle Great news for the libs. You can now watch Omarosa tapes for the next 6 months and be in a permanent state of ” outrage” while the rest of the country is working, raising their families and enjoying life. Why don’t do you all just form a new network with CNN, MSNBC, Stormy, Hoggie, Rachel Maddow, Omaroso and all of the fired FBI employees? Maybe you could pipe in some scintillating Hillary comments about the dozens of reasons she lost the election over and over again. Boy would you all would be in Hogg heaven! You guys could amuse yourselves for a while and leave the rest of alone alone. August 18, 2018 2:35 PM Log in to Reply Caroline Outrage? Are you kidding? We’re laughing that Omarosa pulled one over the entire white house. Trump has declared war on her and screamed for her to be put in prison because as we all know that’s his answer to everything. So far it’s Omarosa 2 Trump and his enablers 0. August 18, 2018 2:43 PM Log in to Reply Sally Forth Spoken like a true patriot. August 18, 2018 4:29 PM Log in to Reply Caroline Trump is not a patriot so yes, spoken by a patriot not an apostle of Putin. August 18, 2018 4:43 PM Log in to Reply downthemiddle Why on earth does anyone give a rat’s -s what some nitwit name Amoroso thinks about anything or has taped someone going to the bathroom? Maybe this is why libs got their a– beat last time and most likely this time. Drama queens. Just be shrill little whiners and do NOTHING but steal your money, call you names and do nothing but sew hatred. Just look at this email string. Almost all of it is drivel and garbage coming from numb nuts… Look at the DNC platform or the Communist Party USA platform and see if you can find any difference. Its sheer idiocy. Run on that and I hate Trump. Good luck. August 19, 2018 11:05 AM Log in to Reply Andrew C. Pope You strike me as a Krylon guy. August 18, 2018 2:43 PM Log in to Reply downthemiddle Does CNN actually still have press credentials? How? I guess they want to get the million pink hat wearing zealots and Antifa goons to go intimidate the jurors. Does this surprise anyone? Even I am a bit taken back by the act of intimidation… August 18, 2018 2:38 PM Log in to Reply Andrew C. Pope Don’t huff paint, kids. August 18, 2018 2:42 PM Log in to Reply Noway2016 Speaking of huffing, Pavlov, which type if condom is easiest to snort, lubed or dry? August 18, 2018 3:32 PM Log in to Reply Caroline White House counsel Don McGhan has apparently been cooperating with Mueller. He also calls Trump King Kong behind his back. August 18, 2018 2:45 PM Log in to Reply Caroline Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/18/us/politics/don-mcgahn-mueller-investigation.html August 18, 2018 3:08 PM Log in to Reply downthemiddle King Kong huh! That is jus’ Turble! August 18, 2018 3:50 PM Log in to Reply Noway2016 They actually have a nickname fro Trump?! Scandalous! August 18, 2018 3:55 PM Log in to Reply Caroline That’s not the point of the article but then I’m not surprised to see you only focus on the nickname and not what is actually happening. August 18, 2018 4:16 PM Log in to Reply Noway2016 This is an emergency message to all of the conservatives who comment here. Someone in the White House has a nickname for Trump!!! Gasppppp! To Silver, Sally, DTM, Raleigh snd Alpha: Trump has a nickname!!! I’m actually dizzy with angst!!!! I hope Urgent Care is open… August 18, 2018 4:02 PM Log in to Reply Caroline The emergency call should be sent out to all of them that McGhan is cooperating with Mueller because he was afraid Trump was going to make him the fall guy for obstruction charges. Trump has been focused on stripping people of their security clearance when he had someone in his own office cooperating with the special counsel’s office. August 18, 2018 4:17 PM Log in to Reply Sally Forth Come back in off that limb, find some solid ground. You linked an editorial style article in the NYT that is filled with speculation of what the writers think this or that means. The only factual thing is that POTUS instructed McGhan to cooperate fully with Mueller. Period. As for your speculation of where the President has focused, only one person has had his security clearance removed, for due cause. I feel sure that many others should also be relieved, but have not been. Dang, POTUS just has too many fish to fry! August 18, 2018 4:40 PM Log in to Reply Caroline No, dear it is not an editorial. It is an article. No, Trump did not instruct McGhan to cooperate fully with Mueller and attempted to draw McGhan in on his obstruction of justice schemes like attempting to fire Mueller and get rid of Sessions. August 18, 2018 4:46 PM Sally Forth Take two aspirin and go to bed. Maybe this delusional state will be gone by tomorrow morning. August 18, 2018 4:57 PM Caroline I guess you did not read the article and only went and got talking points from Breitbart. McGhan does not want to go to jail like John Dean did. Can you blame him? August 18, 2018 5:01 PM Dave Bearse Know it all Trump thought White House counsel McGhan would subordinate protection of the Office of POTUS to personal protection of Trump. . Trump’s personal lawyers believed serial liar Trump that he and his family and campaign did no wrong, thus thought McGhan cooperation thus would help end Mueller’s investigation. . That strategy is long dead because serial liars are prone to perjury, and criminals take the Fifth (“The mob takes the Fifth Amendment, if you’re innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?” – DJT), meaning Trump legal representation won’t ever condone Trump testimony except under severely circumscribed conditions. . August 18, 2018 5:12 PM Log in to Reply downthemiddle Mcghan? Who or what is that? Who gives a -t? Elect these bozos and lock you wallet in the safe is that it? Let these socialist numbskulls educate your kids, pay $60,000 a year and have your little snowflakes come out vote for Bernie Sanders and wear pink hats? Hell no! I don’t think so! If those poor kids are around little leftist tools all of their lives, they will need therapy for the rest of the lives living in a perpetual world of hate and outrage. These folks have all of the advantages of any folks ever born on this planet at any time in world history and are too obtuse and ungrateful to be thankful for it. Thank a liberal. August 19, 2018 11:13 AM Log in to Reply Caroline McGhan is Trump’s white house counsel. I guess you weren’t aware of that fact. August 19, 2018 4:15 PM Dave Bearse “We have a president that will tell numerous dis-truths in the course of a day, yet that’s not challenged. What’s cancerous here is in an open political system, there has to be some measure of objective truth. I’m baffled by the way so many people have looked the other way.” Mark Sanford. . Bafflement? It should be no surprise that the GOP establishment would ignore the petty animosity and lies of its leader after 40 years of establishment Republicans largely ignoring the dog whistle appeals to racism within GOP ranks. August 18, 2018 4:32 PM Log in to Reply downthemiddle Dog Whistle…..When I hear the term” dog-whistle”—I automatically think ” numb-nut”…does anyone else? It seems libs have hearing better than any animal on earth. It can hear things like racist, racist, misogynist and other hateful things when no one else can. Is it a blessing or a curse? What does a symphony of dog whistles sound like to a liberal? Honestly, human’s can’t hear dog whistles can they? So even libs claiming to hear the dog whistles have to be lying again don’t they? I am just trying to figure this angle out…It is hard to do… But we are talking about normal humans… No one accuses liberals of being normal. I guess only an ultrasensitive, misguided leftist misfit can hear them… Hearing things that are not there must be a scary thing. Therapy might help. Always trying to help my fellow man, I suggest the liberals all get together for a séance at Andrew’s house as soon as possible and channel Karl Marx, Castro and others for a little relief! Bow woyingly yours…DTM August 20, 2018 9:23 AM Log in to Reply Noway2016 Y’alls own side is turning against you!? Too bad, Libs!! Lol!!! http://thehill.com/policy/technology/technology/402450-bill-maher-on-social-media-bans-alex-jones-gets-to-speak August 18, 2018 9:31 PM Log in to Reply Andrew C. Pope No one gives two rips what Bill “I’m a house n——-“ Maher thinks about anything. August 19, 2018 8:02 AM Log in to Reply Noway2016 You honestly did NOT say that!!! Holy Hell, Andrew!!! No “lol” or “lmao” on this post!! Those usual phrases could not describe how hard I’m really laffing at you!! And you call ME a racist! God, where is DTM and Sally when I need them! You are a genuinely sick –ck! August 19, 2018 9:40 AM Log in to Reply Noway2016 Agaun, unbelievable!! So your side insists on 100 percent conformity?? Wow!! So, how do your fellow Race Rangers feel about your use of a terrible phase like that? Any credibility you ever had here is gone on any subject whatsoever. August 19, 2018 9:57 AM Log in to Reply bethebalance I can’t claim to know who Bill Maher may or may not represent. But I would call him as much Libertarian as Dem. I watched the show, and he repeatedly agreed that no private platform like Facebook or Twitter has any obligation to provide that platform to anybody else. (His analogy was that you could write something pornographic on a T-shirt but that doesn’t mean Baby Gap has to put it on their shelves.) But Maher has consistently been a defender of free speech, no matter how offensive it is. Not consequence-free speech, but suggesting that allowing the offensive speech is better because it at least exposes it and allows opportunities for debate and rebuttal. I personally agree with the position about not suppressing the speech. Even bigots can preach in the public square as long as they don’t advocate for violent crimes or cause clear and present danger. And they can equally be ignored or shouted out in the public square. As long as no one threatens or commits violence. Maher was just arguing that it’s better to confront the speech than suppress it. Not that there was any automatic right on a private platform. I think that if it were the year 1900, Alex Jones would be out on a street corner with a sandwich board. The front would say “The Civil War was a hoax. ” And the back would say “Buy my cereal.” August 19, 2018 11:58 AM Log in to Reply Caroline That’s another one of those conservative fairy tales. Nobody gives a rip about Mahrer. Weren’t you guys trying to getting him taken off of TV not too long ago? August 19, 2018 8:25 AM Log in to Reply Noway2016 We’re not the censors, Sweetie. August 19, 2018 9:42 AM Log in to Reply downthemiddle Actually I think Andrew is quoting Maher from some other caustic quote he made a while back, but it shows how the left just uses race for the advancement of their socialist agenda. This formal liberal darling is now living in the Big House —per Andrew! Unreal comment actually. Conservatives are called the racists by the libs. You know half the damn country every election cycle. Hardly. Does this remind anyone of the joke, how do you know when a liberal is lying”? I think this is perfect example of how libs glom on to anyone that might advance their socialist/ communist agenda and as soon as they say something they don’t like–they will drop them like a hot potato. Maher is a caustic dbag and is occasionally funny, but he is actually right on something for a change—and of course the libs find themselves on the wrong side of another battle —they are against free speech! And don’t give a GD do they? Now any black person that might be conservative is nothing more than an Uncle Tom or reside in the Big House so to speak. Right Andrew? Look at how they treat any conservative black person…No one on this blog or anywhere else can deny that. Look how they treat any conservative woman!! Good gosh. Anyone deny that? Does Teabagger come to mind? Look at how they treat the average conservative Joe. With disdain. And it is getting worse. Deplorable—love that word. That you Jesus and Hillary once again…and again…and again! I have never seen a party use people with less care than a prostitute. Maher might be the next Cindy Sheehan, Kapernick, Hoggie, Amorosa, much less McCain or anyone else. They hate McCain… just send him a few kudos if he is busting Trump’s ass. The libs clearly don’t want free speech, the just want liberal swill. Hell they will turn on the Founders of this country is they can squeeze out a few numb nut votes from knuckleheads who can be swayed into hating their own country. Unreal isnt it? The love the Communist Party USA, embrace them and give them a home in their party— and hate the Founding Founders. Help me libs…how is that possible? Can anyone say how confused— to put it nicely– can anyone be? They will turn on the flag, the police, civility, law and order, the church, organized religion, try to destroy capitalism, destroy basic values going back eons to advance their messed up agenda. So Maher is in the Big House now because he believe in free speech. Remember this is the same party of the Trail of Tears and Indian extermination, the Civil War, the Klan, against women’s suffrage as NOWAY pointed out some hilariously, the party of segregation and against the Civil Rights Act and currently the anti first, 2nd and God knows how many other amendments. They are against the borders of this country, the laws of this country, their looniest base state is trying to secede from the union, trying to tear down statues, rewrite history, let illegals take over and screw US citizens, intimidate you from voting or putting out a sign in your yard, keeping you from eating at restaurants unless you have on your pink hat, intimidate jurors on a trial, try to overthrow an election, tried to frame the opposing party’s candidate and keep their own candidate who clearly committed numerous felonies out of prison, use their dishonest lackies in press to advance a narrative they know is a lie and don’t care, polluted the upper echelons of the IRS, FBI, justice department and others along the way to advance their warped agenda. They are tyring to turn your kids into radical snowflakes, have infected the universities and turned them from bastions of learning into anti free speech safe spaces! But other than they are a great group of folks trying to unite the country. Thank goodness they are getting that a— beat! August 19, 2018 11:56 AM Log in to Reply Andrew C. Pope Source? August 19, 2018 12:46 PM MattMD_actual You are such a God-damned loser. This is what you do with your life on a nice Sunday morning? You seriously need to find a hobby. Wait, shouldn’t you be in church? August 19, 2018 4:10 PM Caroline https://newrepublic.com/minutes/148597/bill-maher-gets-caught-roseanne-barr-crossfire There were attempts to get Mahrer off TV in retaliation for Roseanne. August 19, 2018 4:19 PM Log in to Reply Noway2016 Who’s next, Carolina? Y’all got Diamond and Silk, Jones…Been working on Drudge for years! Gimme a clue! August 19, 2018 5:50 PM Caroline Diamond and Silk who were passing Russian propaganda? You’re going to defend them? I see this a lot in conservatives. They are unable to tell facts from fiction, propaganda from hard news. Perhaps some reading will help you: https://www.amazon.com/Truth-Matters-Citizens-Separating-Stopping-ebook/dp/B0722FZL5M August 19, 2018 6:24 PM downthemiddle Caroline, we don’t need to try to ban libs on TV or print much less intimidate them from eating at a restaurant. We just need you radical libs to be seen in full color and context, your own words, to show everyone what you stand for and what we don’t need in this country. You are welcome to your opinion of course. Same as me. You libs are the ones banning free speech. Just look at this blog, the press or anywhere you hear a group of libs squawking about something. We truly don’t want all of the libs to go away. We still need you guys to remind folks what we don’t want to become if we want a prosperous, successful, pursuit of happiness kind of place to live. That includes free speech. You can continue to call the folks you don’t like racists, or woman haters, deplorables or whatever the next hollow accusations you guys hurl —and your side should continue getting hammered. Its amazing what can happen when folks have a job, some self respect and don’t need to be pandered to and preached at. Its called freedom. The libs give us all a clear choice. You either embrace their agenda or you don’t. I don’t see anything on the agenda that is very appealing to be honest with you. But we still have a choice as long as conservatives are here to allow it. August 19, 2018 12:25 PM Log in to Reply Andrew C. Pope Banning free speech? . Please tell me what part of the Constitution protects your right to upload YouTube videos or use Facebook? August 19, 2018 12:47 PM Log in to Reply bethebalance An interesting angle that popped into my head: With the recent net neutrality decisions (assuming they are upheld), I think the premise is that the Internet is not a “common carrier” and thus not a “public” service. This could imply that any ISP or domain owner or host has full power to regulate speech that flows through them. Unintended consequences, perhaps… As mentioned in my comment above (which I hope you read, DTM), there would be nothing that anyone can do to stop Alex Jones from wearing a sandwich board and passing out fliers on the street corner. Unless he preached others to commit violent crime, or committed libel or slander. August 19, 2018 1:06 PM Noway2016 Well, if it ain’t George Wallace reincarnated! Any other racist phrases you wanna use this afternoon!? Just like DTM pointed out, yall will do and say anything to push The Narrative. And you’re gonna lose. August 19, 2018 2:12 PM Caroline You haven’t been paying attention is all I can say. And secondly you don’t seem to have even the most basic understanding of the 1st amendment. August 19, 2018 4:20 PM Log in to Reply downthemiddle Comcial Carolina. Do you see us trying to ban the latest conspiracy peddling leftist loon on MSNBC? The latest lie or preposterous agenda proposed or Russian collusion nonsense by conservatives when all of Russian spies were on the FBI and DNC payroll? Do we want to ban liberal speakers on college campuses? (If we did there would be none!)peech!) Do we run around intimidating members of congress we don’t like ? Have we shot any liberal softball players recently I don’t recall any conservatives advocating abducting children of any liberal politicians and putting them in prison with pedophiles. Do you? Speaking of pedophiles, I haven’t heard that conservatives support pedophiles in 2 days from you guys on this blog? And have ever heard conservatives say libs love pedophiles? The answer is no one does. Visualize 20 liberals in a group and 20 conservatives. Then ask yourselves who is the most hateful, miserable vindictive group of pit vipers? Does anyone disagree with that? August 19, 2018 7:06 PM bethebalance Dedicated to Dave’s appreciation of Orwell’s “1984”, and upon Giuliani’s “Truth isn’t Truth”:: “Doublethink means the power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one’s mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them.” ― George Orwell, 1984 Doublethink is also all about “alternative facts”. The concept has legs. August 20, 2018 10:11 AM Log in to Reply Noway2016 A former National Spelling Bee Champ? https://freebeacon.com/politics/al-sharpton-messes-name-legendary-aretha-franklin-song-r-e-s-p-c-t/ August 20, 2018 1:09 PM Log in to Reply Andrew C. Pope Your homeboy can’t spell counsel. So let’s call it even. August 20, 2018 3:57 PM Log in to Reply Noway2016 So, DVD of the rally left on your front porch like last time? August 20, 2018 4:10 PM Log in to Reply downthemiddle Wasn’t he part of Obama’s cabinet? He met with Obama 150 times. How many race baiting rallies and protests could have possibly been organized by the White House and Sharpton? I am sure they helped unify the country. I doubt anyone misses seeing Al on a daily basis. Wonder if Al will have to spend his life in prison with Manafort for not paying millions in taxes too…or it okay since he is a lib? August 20, 2018 9:41 PM Log in to Reply Noway2016 Rally for The Great Man! Tomorrow! West Virginia!! Set your DVR! August 20, 2018 3:34 PM Log in to Reply Add a Comment Cancel replyYou must be logged in to post a comment.