(Mid) Morning Reads for Thursday, August 2, 2018

Happy Thursday from a very wet and dreary West Georgia.

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Noway2016
Noway2016

Wow! Trump Derangement Syndrome personified! To quote that great philosopher, the late, great Rodney King, “Can’t we all just get along?”
http://www.capecodtimes.com/news/20180731/woman-accused-of-hitting-car-in-hyannis-after-confrontation-over-bumper-sticker

armanidog
armanidog

I found out about the newest crazy conspiracy being spread by Trump supporters. Some of their beliefs: “The Russia investigation is a sham. It’s actually a cover story for special counsel Robert Mueller and Donald Trump working together to expose thousands of pedophiles hidden in plain sight — including Hillary Clinton (and Bill Clinton, and Barack Obama), who will soon be under arrest. (Or perhaps already have been and are on their way to Guantanamo Bay.) The GOP lost the Alabama special election for Jeff Sessions’s Senate seat on purpose — a plan devised years ago to reveal the use… Read more »

bethebalance
bethebalance

And ironically- not really ironically- there is one other world leader besides Trump who the group apparently does not criticize- Putin.
I mean, 4Chan or 8Chan couldn’t be better platforms for foreign disinformation campaigns to prey on the mentally ill and lemmings. The problem is the disinformation campaign has also reached into other social media, and from wherever, the hate gets retweeted or passed on by folks including those w media and political power. Because they’re lemmings, or manipulators.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Can we use the new Space Force to fire these morons into the sun?

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Andrew does the US have weapons that can fire from space? Do we have anti satellite missiles? Why on earth wouldn’t we have a Space Force?

Are libs against that too? If you were in a war, wouldn’t you like to take out the enemy’s ability to see and communicate?

If we didn’t have this, should the military leadership be questioned? I am sure you have some point to this. Maybe those weapons are racist. Is that it?

bethebalance
bethebalance

“Space Force” just has that goofy canned sound to it. Besides the name, I haven’t actually heard many opinions. I happen to like the idea-generally- but for what may not be typical reasons. I tend to think that if such an agency is created, it will create a dedicated and considerable stream of funding to R&D that can be applied to other exploratory and scientific endeavors. NASA started out as a unit within the DoD. Yeah, we’ll figure out how to blow things up in/from space. (I’m thinking lasers that can target anywhere on Earth (if we don’t have that… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Why on earth wouldn’t we have a Space Force?
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One, it isn’t on earth. Hence the term “space” force.
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Two, we have a myriad of ways to disable “the enemy’s ability to see and communicate” that don’t require a Space Force.
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Three, learn to take a joke Mr. Upbeat Guy

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Is that a joke? Glad you are not in charge of our military. Why would want an Air Force? We can blow things up on the ground.
Are you miserable all the time or just here? Do you make other folks miserable all the time as well? I hope your dog likes you…

Enjoy the Silence
Enjoy the Silence

Also, because we would be violating the Outer Space Treaty by militarizing space with weapons of mass destruction. (https://www.state.gov/t/isn/5181.htm)

So what you say? Well, if we go down that path, then other nations will start militarizing space as well….and once that happens it is only a matter of time before someone does something incredibly dumb and dangerous…..at the rate things are going that party will end up being us.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

We are down that path…

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

This dude really thinks we need f—-ing X-wings, doesn’t he?
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I jokingly suggested that Space Force could fire a bunch of conspiracy theorists into the sun. You responded with a dead serious answer about our need for giant space lasers. You must be a hit at parties, my guy.

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

I initially thought your comment seemed a little bit abrupt, Mr. Pope. But that was before seeing the evolution of the comment intending to note that Obama being a Muslim foreigner as unhinged lunacy were mild relative to to today’s Qanon.

Enjoy the Silence
Enjoy the Silence

DTM. What other country is militarizing space? Do tell.

Benevolus
Benevolus
Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

Pressed by normal people, the GOP establishment presents itself as not dignifying it by calling it what it is—unhinged lunacy—-but that’s because their power and livelihood rely on them accommodating it.

Remember when Obama was a Muslim foreigner? MAGA.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Were Obama’s parent’s Muslim? His father was and I am not sure about his mom. If you are born to Muslim parents, does that make you a Muslim at least by birth? Not sure, but I would think so. I have no doubt he is a Christian. I guess he converted or maybe he didn’t have to. I personally don’t care. Although listening to Reverend Wright for 20 years, it might drive some to seek another church if not another religion.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Jeremiah Wright is a better Christian than Falwell, Reed, Graham Jr., Robertson, or Roy Moore.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Or maybe they are all hucksters and dbags…

armanidog
armanidog

“I personally don’t care”. So why bring it up?
I don”t care what religion someone may be, I even have Christian friends. : )
But to lump all Christians or all Muslims into one group is wrong. Think about how many denominations and divisions are present in Christianity. Muslims are the same, they have all kinds of denominations and divisions.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Because someone else brought the Muslim topic up. Not me. I don’t care if he is or is not a Muslim. In this country it doesn’t matter does it?

Ellynn
Ellynn

You missed the whole part where “Q” is really JFK Jr., who faked his death to go under ground and work at setting up Trump as president so JOhn-John could take out the Deep State that betrayed his father and lead to his assassination.

The is an actual real belief

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Just a few too many conspiracy theories for me in that video. I think everyone was on the take…It is a bit too complicated for me to take seriously.

Hey here is a quick question….if millions of folks believe Russia actually stole the election from Hillary, are they just gullible conspiracy believing goobers like in the above video?

Don’t forget that President Obama said only a numb nut would believe that since our elections are so decentralized.

chamblee54
chamblee54
armanidog
armanidog

Serious or prankster? From AJC: “The merry pranksters running the satirical “City of Atlanta” Facebook page are planning an implosion event for Stone Mountain. “Join us as we implode America’s largest Confederate monument!” the page said, creating an event page that quickly became popular Tuesday night. “Say goodbye to a symbol of white supremacy and celebrate with us as we watch Stone Mountain crumble to the ground.” The whole thing is fake, obviously, considering that the City of Atlanta page is fake and whoever runs it has no authority to blow up anything. Stone Mountain isn’t even in the city… Read more »

Will Durant
Will Durant

I would love to see how one could “implode” a solid hunk of granite of that immensity.

Benevolus
Benevolus

A precisely aimed proton torpedo would probably do it.

MattMD_actual
MattMD_actual

That reminds me of morons who talk about “sandblasting” Stone Mountain. You cannot sand blast something like that. You need to drill holes and use dynamite.

Anyway, it shouldn’t ever happen, this is not the same situation as in New Orleans.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

I agree that anyone that wants to sandblast Stone Mountain is a moron! We agree on something. I have some bad news though..Uh, if anyone was talking about sandblasting Stone Mountain, I hate to tell but you they have to be a radical liberal don’t they? That is not a conservative position at all. Who are the same wizards of smart that want to tear down all of the statues in thousands of town squares around the country? Isn’t that another idiotic idea? If there are any liberals that want to tear those down statues, blow up Stone Mountain, or… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Maybe we could use a space laser to blast Stone Mountain from orbit.

NoParty4Me
NoParty4Me

A Conservative would sandblast, dynamite or nuke the carving because they expect to make big bucks selling the chunks.

bethebalance
bethebalance

Ha!
Now tell me that wouldn’t be the perfect complement to the same ole regular Saturday night “laser” show!

armanidog
armanidog

I remember when they carved Stone Mountain, I’m that old. I thought it was mistake then and I still think it is a mistake. It is a blight on Georgia’s reputation.
The Confederacy was wrong. They treated people like animals and committed treason.
I would not sandblast or blast Stone Mountain today. It is what it is. Our grandchildren will have to make that decision.

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

I’m always interested in a story or even a sentence behind a nom de plume if there is one and you’d care to share it here, armanidog.

Will Durant
Will Durant

Probably just a translation error going from Russian to English.

Sally Forth
Sally Forth

Interesting A/P article passed along from a friend in TX about President Trump’s meeting with black pastors this week. Said he’s “the most pro-black president we’ve had in our lifetime.” Wait til the libs get a load of this inclusive concern.

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/politics/article/Trump-talks-prison-reform-with-pastors-13123830.php

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Would anyone like to see Jesse Jackson praising Trump having a lifetime of support to the black community! A big hand for Donald Trump!! When did he all of a sudden hate black folks?! What a bunch of lying, hypocrites. You can find this on almost every subject including illegal immigration! What do you liberals say to this hypocrisy!? Why would anyone believe anything you have to say? He was loved by the black community leaders for years….until he became a candidate. Libs loved him for 40 years when he was a democrat donating to all of their functions! But… Read more »

ScottNAtlanta
ScottNAtlanta

When did Trump “all of a sudden” hate black folks? I dont know…maybe when he refused to allow them to buy into his buildings or rent at his properties? He was also fined “bigly” for doing so.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Does anyone want to bet $100 that black people live in Trump Tower? Or is that more liberal BS? I wonder if Jesse J. has a place there? He has extorted enough money from folks to afford it!

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

“He can’t be racist, he has one black tenant!”

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Maybe it was the race-based housing discrimination:
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/28/us/politics/donald-trump-housing-race.html

Maybe it was the attacks (and continued refusal to retract these attacks) against the Central Park Five:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/donald-trump-says-central-park-five-are-guilty-despite-dna-n661941

Maybe it was the repeated insistence that Barack Obama was born in Kenya
https://www.cnn.com/2017/11/28/politics/donald-trump-barack-obama-birth-certificate-nyt/index.html

I can think of a number of ways in which Donald Trump is a racist turd burglar, but I think these 3 should suffice.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Can anyone tell me what a turd burglar is?

Mr. Bear
Mr. Bear

I don’t know what it is, but I do know that people are going to run with this. Consider: “The break-in at the Watergate was a third-rate turd burglary.” Here we go……

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

If less than 1% of any of our friends is a racist
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Where’d you get that number from, your one black friend?

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

What % your friends are racist? I gave you mine. My best estimate. Actual numbers. You want evidence. There is. I WANT YOUR EVIDENCE. How many friends or associates do you have? Include your Facebook buddies or Twitter if you do that. In your best guess, how many do you think are racist?. Easy enough question isn’t it?

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

You know you really are an arrogant, condescending, smug fill in the blank. Not gonna name call like many libs. I happen to have a lot of black friends but don’t want any merit badge for it. Its by choice. Many sports teams I was on and teams my kids were on happen to have black kids on them and parents that support them. Seems reasonable… The school I went to growing up was about 40% black and my kids public schools in the ATL were about the same. Big deal. We enjoyed each other’s friendship. My golfing group is… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

What % your friends are racist? . I try not to be friends with racist people. Although, I acknowledge that we all have racial biases we act upon consciously or subconsciously. Not sure that makes one racist, but it should be acknowledged. . Do you consider yourself and upbeat kind of guy? A good sense of humor? Or do you walk around pissed off, half cocked and think this country really is a piece of crap. . I love this country, that’s why I went to work in government. I’m an incredibly optimistic and upbeat person. I think you’re conflating… Read more »

Sally Forth
Sally Forth

FWAP-FWAP! Well deserved comeuppance for perhaps the most arrogant person I’ve ever encountered. Hang in there, DTM – GeorgiaPol needs you for, as Paul Harvey used to say, the rest of the story.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Noway, do ever feel bad about schoolin’ these youngun’s so often? Its kinda like that scene in Indiana Jones–the knife fight!

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Sally I don’t need to hang in there. It is hysterical. I have better discussions with a couple radical leftist communist lawyer buddies over beers.

I haven’t seen a good reply from a couple of these guys since I started visiting this esteemed blog a few months back. Usually its just racist, racist or weaker! If I had to defend the radical leftist agenda on a daily basis I couldn’t do it either.

It is like the Indiana Jones scene and the knife fight…

bethebalance
bethebalance

If you’re OK answering, DTM, I am curious how often you have in-depth political conversations with your African-American friends. I ask because statistically 9 of 10 African-Americans will be Dems. And also because I’ve realized that until and unless you have those in-depth real conversations, ideals of equality and empathy can be merely academic exercises, and not necessarily interpersonally connected.

MattMD_actual
MattMD_actual

He is a flat-out liar. If he has black friends then I am the Pope posting under a handle.

Noway2016
Noway2016

If I may offer my answer here. I have many black law enforcement and intelligence agency colleagues. For thirty years, no less. To a person they believe in the content of a person ‘s character before the color of their skin. Always. Forever. Period. The racist moniker constantly vomited out by The Left is pathetic and intellectually lazy. Too bad but I do not expect anything more from them!

bethebalance
bethebalance

Of course that’s what they believe. I’m wondering if they’ve shared anything deeper with you/DTM.
Personal and familial struggles. Dinners at their homes. Policy positions.
(All this, btw, does not have any underlying intent to cry Racism- I am just curious.)

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

You guys, Noway can’t be a racist, tons of his fake screen names are supposed to be black people.
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I love how DTM is inferring allegations of racism by my requests he provide evidence to support his arguments or my fact-based rebuttals of his inane rants.
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I guess when you can’t beat ‘em, pretend they said something completely different. Old people are the worst.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Balance here you go! I have conversations with my black buddies all the damn time. Usually over beers and shots of Jack after 9 or 18 holes. Tomorrow night will be a great night for it. We may finally have a good afternoon for golf with no rain …and some refreshments and smack talking afterward. And no one gets their panties in a wad, name calls and we are friends for it. I am well aware black support is 90% for democrats and I ask them why that is. Most say that is just what they have been told to… Read more »

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Matt, you are an intolerant ass. I would never accuse you of not having any black friends because I honestly don’t know. How would I? Neither do you. Obviously. Why the hatred? Some folks are wanting a discussion right? If you can get you lip out of the way, you might find a discussion. How is this jerk fostering a discussion? Good lord you need help. I hope you are in research and don’t deal with patients on a daily basis. I could imagine your bedside manner and empathy are right at the top.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Usually over beers and shots of Jack after 9 or 18 holes. . And now I know you’re lying. Reminds me of this: https://giphy.com/gifs/film-total-qXZZJK2RriAH6 . Military guys are about 90% republican for obvious reasons . Most recent polling I saw shows the split among veterans is 29/20 Republican with 49 identifying as independent. So you’re way off on this front. . a white person can’t put a Trump sign in their yard . White folk ain’t got no problem putting Trump ish in their yard or on their cars. . Can you name any policy passed by Obama passed that… Read more »

Noway2016
Noway2016

How can you call DTM a liar, Drew? And you too, Matt? You don’t know him. He just explained everything you’ve asked him to discuss. But you simply don’t like his common sense answers so it’s time to scream “liar.” You both are truly sad men. “Racist”, “liar”, “Nazi”, “Different names”, “pedofile lover”. Insults. It’s really all your side has had for 50 years. But since Trump gave our side a common sense advocates, yall are scared shitless. You should be. Did you see his PA appearance last night? Simply amazing!! And finally…postong st 300am?? LMMFAO!! Really?? God, you are… Read more »

Noway2016
Noway2016

Read your sad little reply again. So, DTM can’t have a beer with his black golfing partners? “No, you’re a liar!!! And he’s lying anout having any black friends at all, according to you??? I guess I’m LYING about mine, too, huh? You sound like Danny Hutton screaming out “Liar” on his massive hit for Three Dog Night!!!!

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

I’ve got two infants who aren’t sleeping through the night yet. Believe me, I’d love to be asleep at 3am. . I haven’t called him a racist, I surely haven’t called him a Nazi. All I’ve done is call b.s. on his nonsense rants. I’ve done that with links to polling, to studies, to news articles, and to primary source documents. I don’t need to call him a racist to prove my points because he’s a low-information poster without the work ethic to do even 10 seconds of research before posting. . I’ve called you a pedophile lover for reasons… Read more »

Noway2016
Noway2016

You just called him a liar barely four hours ago. And what “well researched ” effort was that based on? Hmmmm?? Nada! Just emotion-based hatred. As per my habit: Ladies and Gentlemen, I present Smivler, the Perfect Example of…The Democrat Party!

bethebalance
bethebalance

DTM, I appreciate you responding, although I would have been fine with a “Yeah, we talk politics a lot.” I’m obviously in no position to judge your relationships, but it is interesting that your acquaintances trend more like military and law enforcement employees or vets on R v. D. Noway also mentioned that his African-American acquaintances are military/LE…. And that does matter some, but I was just curious. As for the policy issues you raise, I just have time to point out an obvious thing or two. No one likes taxes. But everyone wants an effective government. And pretty much… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Christ, man. Lighten up.
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I was joking how “beers and shots of Jack after 9 or 18 holes” sounds like it was written by a 16 year-old trying to imitate a grown-up. For a guy who brags about how he can take gentle ribbing and has a great sense of humor, your panties are really in a bunch about this.

Benevolus
Benevolus

So you describe how DT was one way (Dem) for years, but now he’s different, and then try to blame people for recognizing that he acts different now?
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But actually, DT isn’t really that different. As always, he will say anything to anybody if they will applaud him, and a lot of people have sucked up to him to squeeze money out of him (which you pointed out).
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The only people who are fooled are those who think DT has any principles or morals beyond “I’m #1”.

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

Indeed you occupy a rarified world. Many more than 1% of my Democratic friends have racists opinions and/or bias.

The 1% level is a symptom of bubble encapsulation. You do know Jason Spencer by himself constitutes 0.4% of state elected officials? One could readily rattle off the names a few County Commissioners and get to 0.4%. That’s elected officials. And what’s known publicly. You’re off by more than a factor of 10.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Dave, that is interesting. You think you may have up to 10% of your friends that are racist. And most of them are liberals… Hey, I don’t dispute that at all. I simply don’t have that with my group of friends. I am from a small town in north GA too. Not the metro area. But lets say 10% are racist. The charge that liberals hurl at others even if they are 10x more than my experience still don’t add up to anything close to the charge that all republicans are racist. It is an absurd charge, a colossal lie… Read more »

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

“You think you may have up to 10% of your friends that are racist. And most of them are liberals” I wrote many more than 1%. 3% would be treble that, and it could be more than 10%,I don’t know and no matter. All racists have racist opinions or bias, but all with an opinion or bias aren’t racist. Stick with the orange one. He’ll KISS it for you. . “The charge that liberals hurl at others even if they are 10x more than my experience still don’t add up to anything close to the charge that all republicans are… Read more »

MattMD_actual
MattMD_actual

It’s interesting how Gwinnett is holding a referendum to basically join MARTA but they are delaying it until March. I smell politics but at least they are taking a bigger step than Cobb, which is going to conduct telephone “surveys” sometime this fall. It still seems silly to me. Why go to the added expense of an additional election in March where voting is much easier for the old farts who are generally resistant to change? The demographics in Gwinnett are changing faster than in Cobb so I imagine this shouldn’t be too much of a surprise. Oh, and let’s… Read more »

Will Durant
Will Durant

Every SPLOST or anything similar is held during a special election or the like. Never a general election.

MattMD_actual
MattMD_actual

This just isn’t true. Clayton Co. voted to join MARTA in November 2014. The Gwinnett commission could have easily put the vote in November.

Will Durant
Will Durant

I meant specifically in Gwinnett. They are never timed for election days when the majority of the voters will be turning out and Charlotte Nash is well aware of the practice. I can recall one when my commissioner was not up for reelection and an ESPLOST was the only choice on my ballot.

Benevolus
Benevolus

So what is the deal with this Kemp endorsement of a tax break for Delta? Is that the same tax break he was opposed to during the primary?

chamblee54
chamblee54

I took got a so called survey. It was from a company called 20 20 insight. It was a thinly veiled robocall in support of Sally Harrel. I will not vote for Sally Harrel as a result.

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

I took your remarks about your voting experience with respect to down-ballot Dem primary races as sarcasm. I don’t know how to take the robocall’s influence on your vote.
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It’s good you’ve returned to some commentary. I like your blog’s old photos.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Been gone all day. Seeing how DTM has literally smothered Snivler with common sense and logic!!! It’s hilarious!! Pavlov, you may really want to take that time away from “this blog.” You really need recovery time.

MattMD_actual
MattMD_actual

What have you been doing all day, old man? Leering at underage girls at the local Wal Mart?

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Anybody seen the bar scene on Second Hand Lions? It’s a great one! It talks about respecting your elders!

MattMD_actual
MattMD_actual
downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Yep that is you Matt. I couldn’t pick a better clip. We agree for a change. You just mutter a few cuss words! Perfect!

Noway2016
Noway2016

Doc, are you a second or third knuckle guy?

Will Durant
Will Durant

Conference calls with the boys on Grizodubovoy Street?

Noway2016
Noway2016

I have never seen Trump this good. Ever. You weenies are in much deep do do in November!

armanidog
armanidog

Nah, he was much better when he hooked up with Marla Maples. I was in love with her when she appeared on Designing Women and he snatched her from my heart. I had to settle for Ms. Sugarbaker.