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MikeSilver
MikeSilver

GeorgiaCarry.Org reiterated it’s endorsements. They are backing Kemp and Shafer. Here is what they wrote supporting Kemp: For Governor, Brian Kemp is in a heated, nasty race with Casey Cagle, who as Lt. Governor, blocked much more pro-gun rights legislation in the Senate than we were able to pass in the last 8 years. Cagle is the man who, when discussing future gun rights legislation in 2009, said, “Let me be very, very clear, I have no appetite for that…. folks should be content with where we are”. This was just before we were able to repeal the public gathering… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Casey Cagle, who as Lt. Governor, blocked much more pro-gun rights legislation in the Senate than we were able to pass in the last 8 years.

But the NRA endorsed him because he did that whole dog and pony show about Delta!

MikeSilver
MikeSilver

The Delta show was a complete lie.

A couple weeks after Cagle’s fake stand for the 2A, Gov. Deal ordered the gas wholesalers to STOP collecting the tax. Delta got its tax break.

The whole thing was a start to finish lie by cagle and deal.

chefdavid
chefdavid

Oh my liberal friends will not be happy aout this. Let the liberal exodus from facebook begin. #walkaway https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ryanmac/congratulations-zuckerberg-call-trump-election-2016?bftwnews&utm_term=4ldqpgc#4ldqpgc

Benevolus
Benevolus

Z called to congratulate one of his biggest advertisers and libs are supposed to freak out?
Strong with the tribalism this one is.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Awwwwwwe nawwwwwwww! Lol!

Indypendant
Indypendant

We’ve always been at war with the European Union.

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

From Orwell’s 1984: “Since about that time, war had been literally continuous, though strictly speaking it had not always been the same war. For several months during his childhood there had been confused street fighting in London itself, some of which he remembered vividly. But to trace out the history of the whole period, to say who was fighting whom at any given moment, would have been utterly impossible, since no written record, and no spoken word, ever made mention of any other alignment than the existing one. At this moment, for example, in 1984 (if it was 1984), Oceania… Read more »

Noway2016
Noway2016

Bring out the Lycans and the Werewolves! Lolol! Where’s Kate Beckensale?

Ellynn
Ellynn

China historically been a wait and see culture… and with the long term 2025 and 2050 plans for economic dominance mixed with their ability to manipulate state run compainies they can afford to wait us out.
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https://www.axios.com/threat-china-trade-war-trump-tariffs-xi-jinping-d793f69c-6035-4347-bc0d-67efda64f911.html

Benevolus
Benevolus
armanidog
armanidog

I’ve been to 4 of those towns.
Breckinridge, CO was unimpressive to me. Very touristy (although expensive) in the downtown area.
Sedona, NM was the prettiest in my opinion.
I grew up on the coast of Georgia and St. Mary’s was a nice little town before the navy sub base was built. Go on to Cumberland Island if you want unspoiled views of the marshlands.

xdog
xdog

Please. Sedona is in Arizona. Still, it’s very pretty although imo not as impressive as Chimayo NM. All that expanse north of Santa Fe is a credit to NM’s Land of Enchantment motto.

armanidog
armanidog

@xdog, You’re right, my mistake.
I have been to Santa Fe as well. It has the town square being so nice in the shade. Loved staying in Taos as well.
West of Taos, I almost got blown off the Hwy 64 bridge over the Rio Grande while walking across.

armanidog
armanidog

50 years ago US astronauts landed on the moon on July 20, 1969. Neil Armstrong walked on the moon surface on July 21, six hours after landing. “Opinion polls taken in various locations have shown that between 6% and 20% of Americans, 25% of Britons, and 28% of Russians surveyed believe that the manned landings were faked.” Fox network in 2001 aired the documentary, “Conspiracy Theory: Did We Land on the Moon? ” which concluded we faked the moon landings. Great heritage there, Mr Murdoch. By the way, satellites from various countries photographing the moon since that time have shown… Read more »

Ellynn
Ellynn

49 years ago…

Noway2016
Noway2016

The greatest achievement in the history of the world!

Noway2016
Noway2016

To the Dems here: are you proud it was America that did this?

Benevolus
Benevolus

Of course you numskull. You see, we don’t have to automatically disagree on everything. That’s just something that has been programmed into you by people trying to manipulate you.

Will Durant
Will Durant

Why would you ask? It looks as if 28% of the country you support still think it was faked.

bethebalance
bethebalance

Not crazy— manipulative.
He plays on the fears or doubts of people who are vulnerable to them.
Looks like every fear or doubt he can find.

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

Disturbing quotes. I’m not saying!
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Worthy of reproducing in its entirety here. Not being familiar with the source, I wish the source had provided details about when the remarks were made.

armanidog
armanidog

@Ellynn, They landed on the 20th, walked on the moon on the 21st.
@Noway2016, I am very proud. Too bad we never really followed up on the landings. Vietnam, the oil embargo, the cold war, Iranian revolution, the Gulf war, etc all got in the way I guess.

armanidog
armanidog

Sorry @Ellynn, it was 49 years ago.

Noway2016
Caroline
Caroline

That would be the word of tax fraud Jeanine Pirro. LOL.

Caroline
Caroline

Lordy, there are tapes and apparently a lot of them. The news is reporting now that tapes of Cohen with Trump regarding Karen McDougal are in the hands of the FBI. The ones I’m most curious about are the ones regarding Shera Bechard.

Caroline
Caroline

New poll:
Georgia Governor GE:
Kemp (R) 46% (+2)
Abrams (D) 44%
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Cagle (R) 45% (+2)
Abrams (D) 43%

Too bad they didn’t poll Abrams vs. Kemp.

Caroline
Caroline

Whoops. I misread. They did poll against Kemp.

ScottNAtlanta
ScottNAtlanta

Thats margin of error. Basically tied

Caroline
Caroline

Yeah, Stacy has gone up a few points and the GOP is basically at the same place they were over 2 months ago. It will be interesting to see what the polls say after Labor Day.

Benevolus
Benevolus

It’s crazy. You can’t open a web browser without bumping into a new Trump-Russia connection.
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“Husband-and-wife duo busted in high-end Russian hooker ring”
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“Yevgen Rizanov and Ksenia Khodukina, both 29, flew women from Russia to New York as part of a “sophisticated long-term operation promoting prostitution,” said Assistant District Attorney James Lynch.
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The Russian nationals were picked up last week in Miami at their tony beachfront pad inside the Trump Towers III, where they allegedly ran their illicit enterprise remotely.”

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https://nypost.com/2018/07/18/husband-and-wife-duo-busted-in-high-end-russian-hooker-ring/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Caroline
Caroline

The news is busting out all over today. Mueller is supoenaing Roger Stone’s Manhattan Madam that worked for him for 10 years.

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

Whoooo! Benevolous, then you each mentioning a hooker situation.

No one was figuring out how Madoff was losing ten figures of other people’s money, but there was no problem with zeroing in on $500 in Elliott Spitzer hooker money.

Caroline
Caroline

https://www.spin.com/2018/07/trump-sex-pest-bc-documentary-models/
This one is even worse because these women were underage. Maybe the Madam was procuring the women for Stone and Trump?

All this is really going to be ugly when it comes to a head.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Can Trump hire Hillary off the scrap heap to head his Bimbo Eruption Team? She did a marvelous job of destroying the hordes of women that her husband abused!

Caroline
Caroline

Bill has a best seller and you’re stuck with Trump. I guess I would be attacking Hillary if I was in your situation too. Living well is the best revenge.

Sally Forth
Sally Forth

Refreshing commentary from Black woman who has left the D plantation:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1018157790878228481

Will Durant
Will Durant

What Mueller’s Latest Indictment Reveals About Russian and U.S. Spycraft

While the indictment only describes the U.S. government’s charges in this case, the specific technical evidence presented is compelling and paints by far the most detailed and plausible picture yet of what exactly occurred in 2016.

It also sheds light on what the U.S. government is capable of doing when it investigates cyberattacks, as well as how Russia’s Main Intelligence Directorate of the General Staff, or GRU, allegedly conducted the attacks — which it denies — and what operational security mistakes they made.

https://theintercept.com/2018/07/18/mueller-indictment-russian-hackers/

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Look at this headline. Democratic socialism surging in the age of Trump! (By the way the Obama created the Tea Party by getting conservatives off their ass to stop this idiocy.) Is this the answer for our ills? Are there folks on this blog that will try to defend this?! Really? Just what example anywhere on earth has this worked?! Isnt this simply more authoritarianism? Are they proposing not doing jack squat for 6 years and leaving you alone? Hmmmmmm? More taxes, confiscation, central control over our lives….Help me here. Can anyone explain anything good that will come from this?!… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Obama created the Tea Party? I mean, I guess it is his fault that he was the first black President.
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Before you go off on one of your “durrrrrr, why do you call Republicans racist?!” rants, I’ll direct you to this link:

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Yep, that sure makes it clear that all conservatives are racist! ZZZZZ. Are you sure that is even a conservative or some liberals hired by Soros to get a photo op? Wonderful conclusive evidence. Lets get specific here. I bet you have 1000 friends or more. I do. You probably have more friends than I do. How many are racist? 2 or 3 at most. I cant come up with that many by the way. Probably half of your friends vote differently than you do if they represent the rest of the country. So there you go. Far less than… Read more »

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Black president…believe me that is not the issue. I would happily vote for Colin Powell, Herman Cain, Tim Scott, Clarence Thomas, Condi Rice.,,all fine people. I don’t view Tiger Woods as anything other than a stomp ass golfer that happens to have more melanin in his skin. Hank Aaron. Great ball player. He is black. So what. 90% of the NBA, NFL, Boxing. In the south we grow up together. If you don’t get along with each other it is YOUR problem. Obama is a polished guy, fine family man and half white as well. Big whoop. If we all… Read more »

bethebalance
bethebalance

I certainly understand the distinctions you make. Just one note is that race is not irrelevant. That’s a mistake so many make- and it is sometimes an intellectual one, not one based on emotional animus. So, in theory, race Should Be irrelevant. But in Reality, it is not. And that reality drives some progressive policies that prioritize socioeconomic equality- of opportunity (the Constitution btw also prioritizes equality). That’s the point of Black Lives Matter. Not to diminish other races, or to say that in theory, or at some point in the future, race becomes a distinction without distinction. It’s to… Read more »

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

I agree with your post. Solid comments. No name calling. Refreshing. Race is NOT irrelevant. BUT it should not be used as a weapon, it should not be lied about and used to buy votes and sew dissention. Is there ANY DOUBT in anyone’s mind that the left uses race as nothing more than a way of buying votes, sewing hatred in hopes of getting the voters to the polls? Anyone screaming conservatives are all racists is a flat out liar. The numbers are not possible. But watch EVERY election this fall much less in the next presidential election. That… Read more »

Caroline
Caroline

Seriously do you not understand that African Americans and Hispanics can think for themselves and they just don’t like what the GOP has to say? The GOP has been using white nationalism going back to the days of Nixon and the Southern Strategy. Do you think that POC don’t see and understand and get the message from the GOP “we don’t want you”? Dems do not need to do it. The GOP does it for them.

bethebalance
bethebalance

I’m not sure where you’re getting your info from, which is important. But I would start by saying that when people use their voices to decry institutionalized racism, it’s not because they prefer to be in that position. And when it is an issue, there is really no choice but to try to break those bubbles that other people live in (whether personally or in policy or politics). And those are not mere soap bubbles. As for what I expect to see Dems to run on, I don’t see what you see at all. There is an extensive platform, diverse… Read more »

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

It’s the 50 year anniversary of the Republican party weaponizing race with its Southern Strategy. Unless you’re a millennial downthemiddle, you’d remember Willie Horton and stalwart Republicans like Strom Thurmond’s blatant appeals to racism. Unless you’re younger than a baby-boomer, you probably “didn’ grow up together” Only 1% or 2% racists? It wouldn’t take much to identify racist public statements by elected Republican officials in the 1%-2% range, let alone what they think, say and do in private, and the order of magnitude larger fraction of the base. Take 60-something year old life long Georgian former Congressman (looking for a… Read more »

MattMD_actual
MattMD_actual

Why hasn’t this waste of life been banned yet?

Noway2016
Noway2016

So the conservative posters are a waste of life?! That’s very tolerant on your part!

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Libs sure love banning free speech don’t they?

Will Durant
Will Durant

And some people are quick to toss off labels like lib, libtard, bed wetter, or any other pejorative they have heard from Hannity and Limbaugh for anyone who disagrees with any stance they are told to take. You are especially good for telling everyone what you think the libs are thinking even though you constantly display that your own thinking lacks the ability to even think for yourself. Case in point: “We will benefit from reduced tariffs.. Trump is smart enough to know that.” –downthemiddle

Noway2016
Noway2016

As opposed to the pejoratives vomited by your side, “racist”, “Nazi” and ” Facist…” “Hate brown people…”

Will Durant
Will Durant

You are the one assigning me to a “side”. I don’t accept assignments or pejoratives from trolls. I assign that name to you for your consistent internet troll-like behavior here. So consistent and constant it’s almost like you are being paid to do it. Could it be Putin Satan?

Noway2016
Noway2016

Bless your heart! Lol!

Noway2016
Noway2016
Caroline
Caroline

From last year but very interesting article: How the GOP became the Party of Putin https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/07/18/how-the-gop-became-the-party-of-putin-215387

This reminds me of some of our posters here:
Russia has been targeting the American right since at least 2013, the year Putin enacted a law targeting pro-gay rights organizing and delivered a state-of-the-nation address extolling Russia’s “traditional values” and assailing the West’s “genderless and infertile” liberalism. That same year, a Kremlin-connected think tank released a report entitled, “Putin: World Conservativism’s New Leader.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Issue sounds settled to me!

Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
Jul 21
Inconceivable that the government would break into a lawyer’s office (early in the morning) – almost unheard of. Even more inconceivable that a lawyer would tape a client – totally unheard of & perhaps illegal. The good news is that your favorite President did nothing wrong!

bethebalance
bethebalance

Since I just caught The Princess Bride, the line that comes to mind is the one after Vizhini (sp.?) kept saying “Inconceiveable!”:
“You keep saying that word but I do not think you understand what it means.”

bethebalance
bethebalance
Will Durant
Will Durant

Since Giuliani et al. approved the release of this particular recording’s content without attorney/client privilege protection what the H E double hockey sticks would you expect? A smoking gun? Also the usual word doctoring like “break into” and “illegal” are noted for describing the serving a fully authorized search warrant to prep us for the future findings to come from Cohen. They want the Trumpists stroked for later and will play those cards when the forthcoming evidence may not be so favorable. Generally though when the FBI serves warrants they don’t schedule an appointment, say, around tea time, shall we?

alpha male
alpha male

Not that the fact averse leftists will realize it, but the release of the FISA warrant against Carter Page spells the beginning of the end of the Mueller witch hunt. It proves that the fictional dossier was far and away the prime “ evidence” used to obtain the warrant. Not Papadopolus or anything else. It was the dossier. And it was not even revealed that it was commissioned by the dems.

Despite all the sound and fury and wailing of teeth, this garbage is all over but the shouting.

bethebalance
bethebalance

There were dozens of redacted pages. We will probably never see them, but will have to trust the judge(s) or investigator(s) that have/will.

Caroline
Caroline

Carter Page is more than likely a Russian agent. He has said he didn’t meet Russians and then when evidence went public about him meeting Russians he changed his story to well, he met Russians but they weren’t anybody important. Then when it came out he was meeting with Russian intelligence officers he just flat out started screaming and calling everybody a liar and then spouting deep state conspiracy theories. Dude, we have said from the beginning that the Dossier was only part of the puzzle. You guys are the ones that are obsessed with discrediting the dossier even though… Read more »

bethebalance
bethebalance

I think the grey area here is that Page was definitely targeted to connect with the Trump campaign, and they made some headway with him (by trying to set up meetings, etc.). But it turns out maybe he wasn’t the best connection (amongst other ones available). But the degree of success does not excuse, nor does ignorance of the law. He may have just thought it OK because he had all these connections. And everyone in the campaign is like, we’re not politicians, how are we supposed to know? But, ignorance of the law does not excuse. I don’t think… Read more »

Caroline
Caroline

Carter Page has been rumored to have been the mule for the Trump campaign carrying messages directly to the Kremlin. This is just another thing we’re going to have to wait to hear from Mueller exactly what the relationship was with Carter Page and the Kremlin.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Look, alpha, I know you aren’t really going to read this with any sense of credulity. Even if you did, I know nothing I say is going to change your mind. . This is one of the reasons I’m no longer going to frequent this website. The discussion on this side is acrimonious and doesn’t make anyone any more intelligent or informed. Add to it the fact some folks get to drop racial slurs, engage in Anti-Semitism/homophobia/mysogyny with zero repercussion and this site has gone from “promising place to discuss politics” to “worse than the AJC comments section.” . Anyway,… Read more »

alpha male
alpha male

Bye Felicia!

Noway2016
Noway2016

Anti semitism?? Who is it that’s always calling the conservatives “Hitler” and “Facist?” It’s not me, nor Silver, nor Alpha, nor Down, nor Raleigh, nor Sally…It’s you!

Noway2016
Noway2016

And your pathetic standard bearer called her opposition coters, “Deplorables!!!” And you expect those who were insulted by her to just roll over and take it?!?!?! Seriously?!?!?!

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

Cut back maybe, but certainly don’t leave altogether. Your legal acumen. and contributions here are an great asset.

“On what planet do you spend most of your time? Trying to have a conversation with you would be like trying to argue with a dining room table… I have no interest in doing it.” — Barney Frank

It’s understood you’ll not change Noway and some others opinions, but consider your influence on the remainder of us (including conservatives) and be more discerning in what you choose to rebut.

bethebalance
bethebalance

I agree w Dave.
You add value to this site.
I vary my levels of interaction, and have limited purposes and expectations. And there are many here who have open minds, but may not comment.
You just have to find what’s in it for you, and ignore the rest.

Will Durant
Will Durant

I have to agree with Dave that your comments here are an asset. Just remember the often used adage of pig wrestling in the mud. No matter what the pig doesn’t possess the faculties to know he has been bested. He only knows he thoroughly enjoyed the proceedings and you are still just covered in mud. There are a few adults left here that value a good political conversation without the mud, even when we don’t always agree. Fewer than there once was unfortunately.

Caroline
Caroline

I also agree with Dave. You knowledge of the DOJ is incredibly valuable in discussions here.

Will Durant
Will Durant

It is not a “fact averse leftist” thing, it isn’t even a right v. left thing, it is simply a right or wrong thing, and in that regard I try to always stay in the right. The “witch hunt” as you and the President continue to label the Special Counsel’s investigation of Russian interference has already produced real indictments using US intelligence findings. No mention of the Steele dossier is in those indictment. Why not take a walk on the wild side and read the article I linked above from The Intercept for a take on what has been revealed… Read more »

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

It’s all about rule of law except when it isn’t.

Caroline
Caroline

He sounds screechingly desperate in that quote. I’m guessing something big is going to hit the fan this week.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Something big is going to happen this week! Hmmmm. I guess this is week 100 that you have said the same thing isn’t it? If Carter Page is so bad, why is he running around talking to everyone? Shouldn’t he be in solitary confinement with Manafort? Does anyone remember another guy getting solitary for tax issues? By the way, if Page is a bad guy, much less Trump, lets bust their ass. If not, lets don’t frame them. Is that fair enough? Let’s bust the ass of the abusers of power too. Unlike many others involved in this, I want… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

If Carter Page is so bad, why is he running around talking to everyone?
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Because Carter Page is an idiot.

alpha male
alpha male

Actually, the question should be, if Carter Page is so bad, after being investigated for 2 plus years now, with all the resources of the FBI and all intelligence sources ,why has he not been charged with anything?

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Ding, ding, dink Alpha! You are correct sir!

Caroline
Caroline

Have you considered the fact that he’s turned for Mueller? Mueller is working his way up the food chain. Maybe he just hasn’t gotten to Page yet. It would seem there could be a lot of reasons why Carter Page has not been charged. These types of investigations take a long time and Mueller has only been working on it for a year now.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Andrew, finally I agree with you about something. Page seems like a wacky goober to me. Not some sinister super spy! He is not bright enough to pull anything off. So thanks for the obvious. No was as an excuse. We have already shown that. We have proof with the testimony already given.

bethebalance
bethebalance

Stupid ppl still commit crimes, even if unwittingly.