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Caroline
Caroline

No statement on Putin or Russia from my #treasonweasel rep Barry Loudermilk.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Does it matter? No one who put out a strongly worded statement yesterday is going to do anything. They’re like Trump in that regard: tough talk on social media and in press releases, but when the chips are down they fold as quickly as possible.

Benevolus
Benevolus

Did you see this piece in The Onion? Funny because it’s pretty much true.
Warning: Not safe for snowflakes.
https://politics.theonion.com/gop-leaders-move-goalposts-on-opposing-trump-to-him-bei-1827640709

bethebalance
bethebalance

#NSFS
#NSFNoway

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

I think the good people of Norway can handle a couple of blue jokes.

Caroline
Caroline

You definitely have a point there.

Indypendant
Indypendant

Today will pass and the alt.Republican party will be a step closer to stealing their second Supreme Court seat.

History is not going to judge this period in time kindly.

Those of you who still support this charade, shame on you.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

How are they stealing a 2nd seat? Is this more sniveling? And the first seat was simply applying liberal rules already used before. And is Borking normal behavior for Supreme Court Justices? Nope, sounds like sniveling.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Gotta love The Left’s hate… Please go to other message boards with this. To paraphrase Obama to Joe the Plumber, “Gotta spread The Hate around…!!” Talk a little louder at your lunch at Applebee’s. At any public setting, really. People will listen and take note. And these same Real Americans Who Matter will lie to the same hapless pollsters who totally were humiliated by The Deplorables in ’16. The same pollsters who are breathlessly predicting a supposed “Blue Wave” in November! The same pollsters who predicted Senator Nunn and Governor Carter in ’14! LMAO! What absolute Losers.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

downthemiddle has logged off. Noway has logged on.
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Like clockwork.

Noway2016
Noway2016

And you get thoroughly schooled by both of us!

Benevolus
Benevolus

Things that make you go hmmmm:
On the day a Russian agent is charged with infiltrating the NRA, the Trump administration announces the NRA and similar groups can keep the identity of their donors totally secret.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-tax-groups/us-treasury-moves-to-protect-identities-of-dark-money-political-donors-idUSKBN1K704F

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Even without that coincidence, it’s the antithesis of “drain the swamp.”

xdog
xdog

Is that all dark money or just Russian dark money?

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

For those that think the NFL is failing, revenues increased 4.9 percent last year and hit an all-time high. The league shared more than $8 billion in revenue with its 32 teams, an increase from the $7.8 billion it shared last year.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/24114332/green-bay-packers-books-show-team-got-255m-revenue-sharing

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

According to the Department of Justice, the NRA served as a “conduit” between Russian spies and the GOP. I wonder if Casey Cagle has any opinions on the matter, seeing as he’s the candidate with the endorsement of the NRA.

xdog
xdog

Japan, EU sign trade deal to eliminate nearly all tariffs

“The European Union and Japan signed a landmark deal on Tuesday that will eliminate nearly all tariffs on products they trade. . . . It covers a third of the global economy and markets of more than 600 million people.”

“The deal eliminates about 99 percent of the tariffs on Japanese goods sold to the EU. About 94 percent of the tariffs on European exports to Japan will be lifted, rising to 99 percent in the future.”

https://apnews.com/bb26231767374debafda43f4d99d5bba/Japan,-EU-sign-trade-deal-to-eliminate-nearly-all-tariffs

Benevolus
Benevolus

For anyone who still might not believe the vulnerability of electronic voting machines: I have read the comment “the machines themselves aren’t connected so the actual votes can’t be flipped. ” The nation’s top voting machine maker has admitted in a letter to a federal lawmaker that the company installed remote-access software on election-management systems it sold over a period of six years, raising questions about the security of those systems and the integrity of elections that were conducted with them. Election-management systems are not the voting terminals that voters use to cast their ballots, but are just as critical:… Read more »

Gregs
Gregs

The tweeter-in-chief, the white house and the MAGA cultist are unusually quiet today. Even with talking points from Sean, Rush and Tucker, this latest betrayal of America is hard to defend. Even the WSJ editoralized against the insanity.

Trump blasts NFL players for taking a knee to protest social issues but he stayed on his knees for more than two hours to keep a tape from being released.

#trumpfirst, #treasonsummit

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/ny-edit-putins-poodle-20180716-story.html#

Noway2016
Noway2016

Trump in the presser is the equivalent to Hitler murdering Jews?! Literal insanity. And his not defending his intel folks? They are corrupt at the highest level. No debate there. They have been trying to destroy him sunce the inception of his campaign. Trump won the race on his own. Outworked his opponent!!! Didnt need Ruskie help. The only known hacks were of the DNC. The only collusion is with Dems and Steele. Most recent indictment had no Gringos snd no vote changed and no elections on any level changed. Period. Y’all are truly pathetic.

O_O
O_O

Do you get paid for commenting here comrade?

Lawton Sack
Lawton Sack

Nobody gets paid here. Period.

O_O
O_O

I believe you, I apologize if the insinuation is taboo.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

I’ve gone down the “Noway is a D-list Russian troll that got stuck on Georgiapol duty because he wasn’t good enough for a more prestigious assignment” road before.

Will Durant
Will Durant

Recently he has had a slip or two keeping his legend intact though.

Benevolus
Benevolus

… there is the GAPol hot tub though.

Lawton Sack
Lawton Sack

Ed used it and the EPA shut it down.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Funny comment. What party is the home of the Communist Party USA? The democratic party. What Party hated Reagan and sucked up to Gorbachev so much his head turned red. Actually comrades, go to CPUSA.org. Just read it. It is indistinguishable from the Democratic party platform. So I challenge all the comrades on this blog to find something they disagree with on that site. Good luck and waiting for replies.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

I believe the Communist Party is the home of the Communist Party… That’s kind of how political parties work.

Instead of me doing your research for you, why don’t you come correct and explain for the class 1) what is the difference between socialism and communism and 2) what elements of the Democratic party’s platform constitute communism.

I asked you – or one of the multiple accounts you post under – this question last week and never got an answer.

Benevolus
Benevolus

Right. I can’t really find any kind of manifesto or whatever there to challenge. Mostly all I see is workers rights, election integrity, anti-racism, anti-capitalism, etc.
But I don’t think anyone here would agree with the full-on ‘workers own all the collective output’ if that’s what you mean. I don’t think the Dem platform includes that.

Now you go find some white supremacist site and tell us what you disagree with there.

Benevolus
Benevolus

Did we lose the ability to separate paragraphs?

testing.

Benevolus
Benevolus

Yes, we did. Dang.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Trump in the presser is the equivalent to Hitler murdering Jews?! Who drew that comparison? Not anyone here, from what I’ve read. Stop making stuff up. And his not defending his intel folks? They are corrupt at the highest level. The “highest level” of intelligence officials are people like Dan Coats, Gina Haspel, Chris Wray and other folks appointed by President Trump himself. The people he threw under the bus are the intelligence agents and analysts – some of whom routinely risk their lives in service of this country – that do the day-to-day intelligence work. They have been trying… Read more »

Noway2016
Noway2016

To create the dossier Steele sought info from Russian intel/gov’t agents. That is colluding w Russia, right there. Not Repubs, but Dems.

Indypendant
Indypendant

So you accept the authenticity of the Steele dossier, your only concern is the source?

Do you not see how that makes you look?

Like a fool, in case you’re wondering.

Noway2016
Noway2016

I said no such thing, uou dillweed! I said , and of course it’s the truth, Hilly’s campaign paid for the dossier through Steele and his collusion with Russian government agents to put it together. So, the only acknowledged and proven collusion is by the Dems and Russia. GOP is nowhere to be seen. By the way, how did that laptop taste?

bethebalance
bethebalance

I guess every person ever colludes with Google every day, too. Colluding- one aspect of it- means you share a common goal. Information gathering, especially by a professional, can in fact be objective. Even if you’re paid together that information. Weren’t you paid as an investigator or something? Did you collude with your infor sources?
On top of that, there was no common goal. Putin admits that he wanted Trump to win, and you allege that Steele wanted Trump to lose. Seems like opposite goals, if anything.

bethebalance
bethebalance

And I remain confused why folks don’t just look at what happened – or at anything that has happened with Trump- and say “Yeah. that sucked”, then say you like him anyways and move on. No human is infallible, and it’s no shame to admit mistake. And then there’s the story that a tree that bends with the wind will survive the storm, while the tree that doesn’t will break. Plus, why would anyone stake their invaluable GeorgiaPol rep on refusing to be acknowledge reality?

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Noway, you purport to have done oppo research in the past. If Steele is trying to gather intel on Donald Trump or his campaign’s connections with Russia, why would he ask anyone other than his sources in the Russian government? Also, how is asking your source at KGB somehow the equivalent of an officially sanctioned hacking and espionage campaign?

Caroline
Caroline

Have you ever thought that there were British spies in Russia or Russians that were against Putin that could have supplied that information? Apparently not by your silly comment.

bethebalance
bethebalance

So, now Trump is acknowledging the validity of his intel folks. Given your statement of the intel folks’ corruption, then adding 1 plus 1, carry the 4… that means Trump supports corruption.
So maybe now it’s becoming clear that it makes no sense to deny the overwhelming validity of officials and real patriots.
And maybe it will also become clear that it makes less sense to defend Trump because he’s going to change his mind pursuant to his fickle political will.
And then he won’t have your back.

Noway2016
Noway2016

New thread within this one. Comments getting too stretched on iphone. Trump I hear, acknowledged Russia meddling. He still says neither he or his campaign was involved. Are we assuming it was Russia that hacked DNCC to expose Podesta and Brazile’s comments snd released them? Comments that have never been denied or being accurate in their content? Were those comments detrimental to the Dem ticket? Sure. It made the Dems look sleazy. But their is no evidence whatsoever that Repubs knew of the effort to hack DNC personnel. Therefore no collusion between Repubs and hackers. No evidence at all.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

No he didn’t. He said that he’s heard what his intel people have said but that Putin was very forceful in his denials that anything happened. It’s the “good people on both sides” comment updated for a different context.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Lemme ask: were the leaked Dem emails, hacked by whomever and released by Assange, enough to cast enough negative thoughts on the Hilly ticket, for that alone to have given the victory to Trump?

bethebalance
bethebalance

It just doesn’t matter who won. Why everything has to be seen through that prism is odd. If a crime was committed, it was committed.
If a maggot broke into a home, but didn’t steal anything, isn’t he still a maggot?

Caroline
Caroline

They were hacked by the Russian Intelligence community. There is no “whoever”. Apparently they stole Hillary’s data which yes could swing the election. It’s the same as Nixon breaking into the DNC but this time instead of Americans doing it the Russians did.

Noway2016
Noway2016

And you contend that those stolen emails were responsible for Hilly’s loss?
And further, you’re saying Trump knew of the theft before it happened or was just damn lucky withthe negative content.

Caroline
Caroline

Exhibit A would be yourself. Exhibit B would be Bernie bros pushed on by Russian bots and Bernie himself who wouldn’t speak up about the Russian bots that were helping his campaign. We don’t know that Trump knew about the theft but it sure looks like something was going on. We do know that Doug Stone contacted Russian Intelligence and actually said the emails were going to come out before they came out. We also know from the Mueller indictment that apparently a GOP congressional candidate also contacted Russian intelligence. We also know that Trump spoke regularly with Stone. Yesterday… Read more »

bethebalance
bethebalance

The simple answer is that we just don’t know yet. There’s a lot of smoke that has yet to clear. I tend to think that Roger Stone may be the first to be charged with conspiracy around the hacking. And we don’t know yet what Trump knew. Btw, I’d feel better if it turned out that the campaign – while it flirted with Russians- did not end up leveraging Russian assistance, because that means people made the right choices in the end. Which is more heartening than learning you’ve been lied to, manipulated, and took heavy damage to democracy.

Caroline
Caroline

In the last indictment it said a congressional candidate contacted Guccifer directly for stolen emails. Do you not think that Putin arranged the emails to create a narrative and left out other emails? It obviously was effective to some degree because you believe them.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Sure I believe them. And none of their content was ever denied by the Dems. At least some of the ire your side has had should have been with the unforced error that Podesta and Donna had in putting that info into words!

Caroline
Caroline

Dude, do you think the complete story was leaked by Putin? Of course not. You realize that parts of emails threads can be left out don’t you or are you not smart enough to realize that.
As somone who supports pedophiles and treason weasels, you should be the last person lecturing anyone on what they should do.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Jesus Huckabee Christ, the dude is still throwing caveats out there. Now he accepts the intelligence communities conclusions regarding Russian interference, but it “could be other people also – there’s a lot of people out there.” Also, still no condemnation of Russia’s actions. Even from across an ocean he’s not man enough to stand up to Putin. He’s now claiming that he didn’t mean what he said and he actually meant the exact opposite of what he said. Here’s the quote from yesterday: “I have President Putin, he just said it’s not Russia. I don’t see any reason why it… Read more »

Caroline
Caroline

The press conference that launched 1000’s of campaign ads in the fall.

Noway2016
Noway2016

To Andrew: Steele’s asking official KGB/Russia sources is just that. Asking current Russia employees, if you will, is colluding with those sources to get info. That was done for the Dems. What am I missing?

bethebalance
bethebalance

Holy brick wall, Batman.

bethebalance
bethebalance

Not Andrew, but:
Asking people questions is not colluding.

Noway2016
Noway2016

So, Don, Jr meeting with the Russian contact at Trump Towers about neg info on Hilly isn’t collusion. Thanks for tha clarification.

Caroline
Caroline

He met with a Russian spy but then he’s not the sharpest tool in the box. Mueller is going to be the final arbiter of what that meeting was.
Remember Mueller has all the emails, phone calls etc. from the Trump campaign.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Caroline, regarding Mueller. Did D jr ” intend” to meet with a spy? Don’t bleeeeve so! That pesky intent necessity!

Caroline
Caroline

It would seem the intent was to meet with Russians which is bad enough in itself. Can you answer for me why Republicans think it is a good idea to meet with Russians and not call the FBI?

bethebalance
bethebalance

So, it remains to be seen if there was anything actionable that arose from the meeting. But the intent obviously matters, as does Don Jr’s knowledge, as you allude. Donny at least knew there was a Russian connection. And, to be clear, if it turns out that anyone in the DNC knowingly presented false information to intelligence agencies, they should be prosecuted for that. They’d have to have knowledge that the info was bogus to show intent for that. So if your idea is that the DNC directed Steele to fabricate information- yeah, that’s going to be something actionable. But… Read more »

Enjoy the Silence
Enjoy the Silence

NoWay2016, you really ought to read the transcript of the press conference yesterday, because Putin actually admitted that he aided Trump:

REPORTER: Did you want President Trump to win the election and did you direct any of your officials to help him do that?

PUTIN: Yes, I did. Yes, I did. Because he talked about bringing the U.S. Russia relationship back to normal.

Noway2016
Noway2016

My opinion? He answered yes to the first part of the question. To be fair, I’d like clarification on the second part dealing with any assistance.

Gregs
Gregs

It’s only unclear to cultist. Putin is fluent in English and didn’t need a translator. He was eager to let the world know he is responsible for the cult leaders election. He owns Trump. Trump is the first US president who is a wholly owned asset of a hostile foreign power.

Country over cult.

Sally Forth
Sally Forth

Noway, I figured you’d be on here slogging it out with the usual suspects. It seems totally lost on the hair-on-fire liberal socialists that the whole thing is about Obama’s intelligence community, not Trump’s. Misdeeds of McCabe, Strzok, Page, Brennan, Lynch, Comey, et.al. in 2016 were all with the blessings of our former president who was trying desperately to get Clinton elected. Speaking of which, one of the Obama FBI lawyers, Lisa Page yesterday dimed out Obama’s top FBI officials during her House testimony, gave new intel on how FBI bosses covered up evidence that China hacked Hillary’s top secret… Read more »

Noway2016
Noway2016

Lol! Well said. As usual!

Will Durant
Will Durant

Wow. That’s a Fabulously Astounding Keen Enlightenment you’ve got on those dastardly Chinese. How ’bout we look at 55 year military intelligence veteran James Clapper’s book where he reveals the facts garnered during his role as DNI: Before most of the media had landed in Philadelphia for the Democratic Convention four days later, Russia launched its big surprise. Russian intelligence—specifically their military intelligence agency, GRU, the agency with which Mike Flynn had met—had quietly gained access to the Democratic National Committee networks in July 2015. Sometime in March 2016, Putin and the Russian leadership decided that it was worth the… Read more »

Sally Forth
Sally Forth

And that would be the same Clapper who misled the world with false claims of “weapons of mass destruction” in 2003 which were proven to be nonexistent by international inspectors. Excuse me if I don’t place much credence in his musings.

Will Durant
Will Durant

Yep, he fully owns up to being a part of that finding in the book, but you are implying he was solely responsible when he wasn’t even close to the lead dog at the time (although one that was is named John Bolton). Regardless, your dismissal of a man who served his country for 55 years whose brutal honesty is obvious in the book is oddly the same as one of the first putdowns of America’s intelligence community offered by then President-elect Trump in December of 2016, “These are the same people who said Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass… Read more »

bethebalance
bethebalance

What are your sources for all this?

bethebalance
bethebalance

I couldn’t find a one.
Although I didn’t search every sub-reddit conspiracy theory.

bethebalance
bethebalance

I feel like that post, a conspiracy theory without sources, did a disservice to this site and any who read it (not to mention whatever credibility you had with anyone who cares about real issues). It dumbs down the site, and while I used to read your posts with a deference to hearing you out, I won’t be wasting any more such time. Not that you care, but you should still know.

Noway2016
Noway2016

I’m sure Sally has draped himself completely in black – to mourn the fact that Balance will no longer be reading his fact-based postings. He’s actually desperately needed here. To give some counter balance to the Lib Wingnuts who basically dominate Gapol!

Will Durant
Will Durant

So where did you go to college Noway? Was that UGA or Emory?

Noway2016
Noway2016

Both

Will Durant
Will Durant

What popular establishment near the Emory campus had the only Heineken on draft to be found in the 70s and 80s?

Noway2016
Noway2016

Wow! Folks we have Rand McNally temporarily inhabiting Will’s body!! Jeezzz!

Will Durant
Will Durant

Nah, just asking one you can’t google and your evasion is telling.

Benevolus
Benevolus

Pretty sure it wasn’t Moe’s and Joe’s! But I was a Tech guy.

Will Durant
Will Durant

He is also claiming UGA now and didn’t know what a FO from the Varsity is, and that can even be googled.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Will, since you’re into useless trivia. When a band wanted to get away from it all and they came to Gilligan’s Island, what was name of the band and name its’ members!

bethebalance
bethebalance

If you say that all those things happened, and that those people said those things, then all you have to do is drop a link. Otherwise, it’s either false witness, or wingnut conspiracy theory. Even you, Noway, at least use links, even if they’re from RT, and you didn’t read the article :b I don’t like any extremes- right or left- but if you can support your argument with actual facts, a discussion can be had. And every left-leaning commenter here backs up their positions with sources. And we do have the ability to elevate the level of discussion, or… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Noway’s a liar?

Next you’re gonna tell me he didn’t fend off that would-be kidnapper using just a fanny pack.

Sally Forth
Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

I don’t think those documents say what you and Judicial Watch think they say. Then again, I’m just a guy that used to work at the Justice Department and an actual attorney and Tom Fitton is a gaptoothed huckster without a law degree who peddles readily disprovable theories about voter fraud, the Obama Administration organizing the protests over Trayvon Martin’s murder, and the “deep state.”

But hey, I’m a durrrrty librul, so I can’t be right.

Caroline
Caroline

Judicial Watch: The PT Barnum of legal organizations. You would think after being led down tons of rabbit holes by these idiots that one would learn.

Sally Forth
Sally Forth

Gosh, Fitton speaks so well of you! I don’t really pay attention to his theories, only to the actual legal documents he gets through the Freedom of Information Act, like those contained in these articles. I like to form my own conclusions based on facts, not other people’s opinions. Centrist that I am.

bethebalance
bethebalance

Since I didn’t have any predisposition to Judicial Watch, I feel like I can look at the facts presented objectively. Besides the messy presentation, I found there was mostly theory and conjecture. It’s good that the emails were disclosed and obtained, but the theories are literally in the URL, the main ideas of each paragraph, etc. And there is no coherent link between the content of the documents and the theories. It actually looks like the lack of coherence is intentional, so that you feel OK to jumping to the conclusions of the theories. It would be effective at convincing… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

I read the documents JW released. They don’t align with the conclusion JW is pushing.

Since you’re so familiar with them, maybe you can point me to specific pages, just like I asked y’all to do with the IG report and the Nunes memo and every other “explosive revelation” that has turned out to be a dud so far.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

“the whole thing is about Obama’s intelligence community, not Trump’s … with the blessings of our former president who was trying desperately to get Clinton elected.” If Obama was “desperate” to get Clinton elected, why not go public with the fact the Trump campaign was under criminal investigation for its links to Russian hacking and espionage operations in the United States? Strzok could have leaked it. McCabe could have leaked it. Rice could have mentioned it on a Sunday show. No one did. So, again, to really drive the point home… if the Obama Administration and the “deep state” were… Read more »

Sally Forth
Sally Forth

Your insults do not deserve to be dignified with a response.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

And yet you put the bag down long enough to do just that.

Caroline
Caroline

Not suprised to find out David Perdue is a #treasonweasel.

NoParty4Me
NoParty4Me

Latent response. U.S. Sen. David Perdue, R-Ga.: “Why is my monthly NRA check made out to me in rubles?”

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

“Disagreements between our countries were discussed at length, and what the world saw, and the American people saw, is that President Donald Trump will always put the prosperity and security of America first.” Toady weirdo Mike Pence complimenting treason.

National intelligence employees and others at risk for their service to the country needn’t worry they’ve a fool leader that thinks them of little value. Mitch ‘n Handel ‘n ’em are keeping them in their thoughts and prayers.

Caroline
Caroline

He is so creepy. Maybe Mother told him to say that.

Sally Forth
Sally Forth

The MSM is crickets today about something of actual importance. They will not report that Putin invited Mr. Mueller and his team to come to Russia & participate in interrogating the 13 Russians indicted last Friday by Rosenstein. Why not figure out some way to do that, maybe get some first-hand information.

bethebalance
bethebalance

If you think that Russia would be honest and not demand ridiculous diplomatic quid-pro-quos, or not interrogate and threaten the individuals (and their families) before Mueller ever spoke to them, or allow actually unfettered questioning, then sure. The Kool-Aid is all red over there, comrade. And of course, Donny would need to approve, but he’d have a dozen reasons that he wouldn’t want to rock the Russian boat. God forbid you improve a relationship by reconciling the mistakes of the past.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

… and OJ wants to find the real killer.

Putin’s offer was that Mueller’s team could observe the interrogations, not “participate.” It was also conditioned of opening Mueller’s investigation into a joint investigation of informants and whistleblowers about the murder of Sergei Magnitsky. As I pointed out to you yesterday, the Magnitsky Act has frozen the assets of Putin’s close associates and is a major thorn in Putin’s side. This wasn’t some act of generosity, it was a power play by Trump’s new daddy.

Caroline
Caroline

Silly, he said he would let them come if we gave him Bill Browder. He wants Bill Browder so he can either jail him or murder him. Are you now not only advocating for treason but to hand over one of Putin’s enemies to him? An American citizen?

http://time.com/5340545/bill-browder-vladimir-putin-magnitsky-act-donald-trump/

Sally Forth
Sally Forth

Treason??? It really IS the silly season on here!
He did not say we’d have to “give him” Browder. He said that we should look into Browder, since he’s the billionaire who now lives in England, but lived in and made over $1.5 billion in Russia and funneled $400 million into the US to Clinton’s campaign. Putin said that Browder never paid taxes to Russia nor the US for repatriation of the funds.

Caroline
Caroline

Putin already claimed Browder was guilty. Do you really think the Russians would come and ask Browder nice questions and then let him go? Of course not. They would charge him with crimes in Russia and haul him back there and murder him or put him in jail. Browder is a big threat to Putin and anyone who threatens Putin gets murdered. And he did not give Hillary that money. That’s a hoax but apparently you fell for the garbage Putin was spewing. This is how Putin’s propaganda operation works.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

They said Browder’s friend didn’t pay taxes either. Then they murdered him.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Maybe Lois Lerner was his accountant?

MattMD_actual
MattMD_actual

Sally Forth, when you fell from the stupid tree, you must have hit every branch on the way down. Why are you trying to cover for that disaster of a press conference? Even the spineless, Viagra-addicted water-carrying Trump Republicans distanced themselves to the point of having Trump tell us that he “mis-spoke”. I don’t think he did, he knows he crossed a line by cozying up to a despot. His feelings for the intelligence community were unambiguous. This is one dangerous idiot we have in the White House. Trump surely isn’t the first president to try ginning up some relationship… Read more »

Benevolus
Benevolus

The last time Russia invited investigators: Russian KGB defector Alexander Litvinenko fled to England for asylum. Putin sent the KGB (FSB) to kill him in 2006 by slipping RADIOACTIVE POLONIUM into a cup of tea he was drinking. Litvinenko died a miserable death from radiation poisoning, but he made a death bed confession that Putin and the KGB were behind it. Nobody doubted it, given that this is Putin/KGB style. You defect from the KGB, and we’ll find you, and kill you in the most dramatic, horrible way you can possibly imagine. -Witness dissident writer Georgi Ivanov Markov poisoned in… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Sally,
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Wanted to amend to add that, according to Russian media reports, one of the targets of Putin’s proposed probe is former Ambassador Mike McFaul, whom Putin has previously accused of trying to engineer a revolution and overthrow of the Putin government. By calling it an “incredible offer,” Trump is tacitly supporting the idea that the US government should permit making those who have served our government available to baseless investigations by our adversaries. If that’s not a further middle finger to the intelligence community, or really any foreign policy professional, I don’t know what is.

Noway2016
Noway2016

400 million? Wow! That’s one helluva bribe, even for The Hag!

Caroline
Caroline

It’s a hoax but I’m sure you don’t care. And you had questioned the effectiveness of Putin’s propaganda in the election? You just fell for it yourself.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Aside from the Podesta emails how else were the Americans fed Anti-Clinton propaganda? Facebook ads?

Caroline
Caroline
Sally Forth
Sally Forth

Gotta go — bubbye.

MattMD_actual
MattMD_actual

I heard some dolt from the Freedom Caucus say something to the effect of how great it was that two superpowers had a summit.

Newsflash: Russia is not a superpower. They are a regional power with a lot of nuclear weapons. Both California and Texas have larger GDPs just by themselves. Florida might even have caught up with Russia this year as well.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Not a superpower? Would the highly respected Obama intelligence officials agree with that? Paging Brennan and Clapper!

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Russia’s GDP is $1.283 trillion. That’s less than Canada. That’s less than California, Texas, or New York.

Russia is not a super power.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Lol! Of course not!

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

How do you define super power then? Nuclear weapons? I don’t think India or Pakistan constitute super powers. Strong, robust economy? That ain’t Russia. International influence? Maybe by that metric, but Russia’s “influence” isn’t compelled by the power of its ideals or the strength of its military or the size of its economy and more a result of it being a petro state and having a commodity people want to buy.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Think of something funny like Will just did. I know enough sheriff’s deputies that his other thought might have been a distinct possibility! LOL!!

NoParty4Me
NoParty4Me

1.283 trillion is our close to our new deficit. http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2018/07/17/White-House-Makes-Trillion-Dollar-Admission. “The updated budget now includes a projected 2019 deficit of $1.085 trillion, up from $984 billion in February — and more than double the $526 billion the White House called for in its 2018 budget.”

Benevolus
Benevolus

And we haven’t even gone to war yet.

Caroline
Caroline

I find it awfully funny that conservatives on this board have said oh, there’s no way Putin’s propaganda could have done anything to affect the election and yet here they are swallowing everything Putin said whole. #treasonweasels whose alliance is not the United States. Putin is not our friend. Putin attacked us but it seems most conservatives are okay with that bit of nonsense too.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Question: which did more damage, Podesta’s emails or Comey’s reopening the email investigation?

Caroline
Caroline

You tell me. The email thing went on for months. Comey broke protocol. That actually came out of the NY field office which Giuliani is also implicated in. Are you aware that the NY field office held the laptop until right before the election? Probably not I would guess. Jason Chaffetz also released classified information but no consequences for him are there?

You tell me how much stealing Hillary’s data helped the GOP allowing Putin to microtarget propaganda.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Here is proof that the Russian investigation is a joke. Here is Rosenstein saying the evil Russians he just indicted had NO EFFECT on the election at all. Period. No American did a damn thing. Yet this was his BIG announcement just before Trump’s meeting wit Putin. Not my words. Rosenstein’s… And here is Obama himself ridiculing Trump 3 weeks before the election to quit whining about any Russian influence in the election and anyone that thinks so is a moron and a sniveler. Our elections are too decentralized which is a fact. Obama tells Trump to grow a pair… Read more »

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Obama ripping Trump a new one and now we still have nonstop sniveling from the libs..

Why was this no problem when it is directed at Trump but a national threat when the libs get an ass whipping? We all know why…

Indypendant
Indypendant

8 years, no investigations (and certainly no indictments)

1 wife, no divorces (and certainly no abortions)

But he was black, so we know “downthemiddle’s” true colors.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

So you agree this is just liberal sniveling and nothing more? Good. How many in the FBI have been fired, reassigned over their fair and balanced investigation? The top 3 folks!! Oh, and they got one of Trump’s advisors for tax evasion 10 years ago and a few Russian trolls! Impressive! Just out of curiosity, how many “trolls” does the US employ? It better be thousands! And screwing up the Iranian nuclear program s is just one example. I hope they place a few anti Communist ads in some overseas elections. They might try the USA too since the democratic… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

I don’t like lying, idiocy, over the top America hating and folks getting railroaded.

So I take it you don’t have any mirrors in your house?

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

It should be noted that Rosenstein used the qualifier “in this indictment.” Before noting that the Special Counsel’s investigation is ongoing. The DOJ isn’t going to name someone in an indictment if they aren’t ready to charge them yet. (It’s the same principle behind not commenting on open investigations) That someone wasn’t named in this indictment doesn’t mean they aren’t going to be indicted down the line. From a prosecutorial perspective, keeping the Russia-side crimes separate from the American-side crimes makes perfect sense strategically. Again, not saying there are more indictments to come, but there’s nothing that allows us to… Read more »

Will Durant
Will Durant

The feds actually denied Gwinnett Sheriff Butch Conway his recently purchased hot rod. Another extravagent purchase from ahem, confiscated drug money. First denial from them I can recall: Longtime Gwinnett County Sheriff Butch Conway has always preferred Dodge Chargers as his official use vehicle, but never a Charger like this one. The 2018 Dodge Charger Hellcat has a 707 horsepower, supercharged six point two-liter engine, with a top speed of 200 miles per hour. It’s considered the fastest sedan ever built. And the feds aren’t happy. In a letter sent to the Sheriff Conway last week, the US Department of… Read more »

Noway2016
Noway2016

Now, that is actually funny!

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

‘I think only the president can rein himself in.'” Coward Chuck Grassley doing his part to MAGA!