Morning Reads for Tuesday, June 25, 2018

Goooooood Morning! Theresa here, filling in for Teri.

Notable reads for today:

  • Commentary– “The treatment of Sanders at the Red Hen restaurant is the very incarnation of the double standard many conservative Americans feel they’ve lived under for years. Their social media feeds are full of liberals supporting the very same behavior for which they’ve been condemned as (literally) “bigots” and “Nazis.”
  • There is a fine line between ethical high-ground and common-sense. In this case, the line seems to have flashing neon lights.
  • If you know me at all, you know I am *slightly* obsessed with all things Southern. THIS is the perfect little Southern Know-How Manual from Garden and Gun.
  • Commentary– “Marriage counselors say that when a couple view one another with contempt, it’s a top indicator that the relationship is likely to fail. Americans, who used to know how to disagree with one another without being mutually contemptuous, seem to be forgetting this. And the news media, which promote shrieking outrage in pursuit of ratings and page views, are making the problem worse.”
  • Who doesn’t love a good tip from Southern Living?
  • Podcast- “The Problem with the Solution” I am not going to be happy until everyone has listened to this podcast from Invisibilia. Give it a listen and let’s discuss!
  • Maxine Waters is currently in the process of losing her mind and Chuck Schumer realizes it.
  • Suspect arrested in fatal shooting of Long Beach Fire Captain.

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Noway2016
Indypendant
Indypendant

Don’t feign surprise, the only thing you’re surprised about is that you didn’t do it to a lib’ral first.

Good guy with a gun at IKEA? Allen wrenches make me nervous, too.

John Vestal
John Vestal

More SCOTUS opinions at 10:00am today, and it’s a pretty good bet we’ll get the Georgia-Florida water wars case. Stay tooned.

John Vestal
John Vestal

OK, GA-FL opinion NOT coming today. Next (and last) opinion day yet to be announced. I’m guessing Thursday.

John Vestal
John Vestal

Wrong again….tomorrow (Wed) is the LAST day of the term, per the Chief.

Lea Thrace
Lea Thrace

The Supes are toying with you John!

xdog
xdog

OK, Sanders got 86ed from a leftier-than-thou eating joint. That was too bad. Most people I know think that act was an embarrassing over-reaction and in some deep sense un-American. It shouldn’t have happened.

Now, can we expect the right to start showing concern at Sander’s constant dissembling and evasion? Maybe her boss’s too? Maybe even expect a direct answer to the question ‘What are the administration’s plans to reunite the kids you’ve shipped around the country with their parents?’

MikeSilver
MikeSilver

We now know the depths of the depravity of Liberals and Democrats and what they would do to us if they are in power. Vote like your life depends on it, because it does.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

We now know the depths of the depravity of Liberals and Democrats

She was politely asked to leave a restaurant. It’s not like the owner took Sanders’ kids away from her and threw them in an internment camp halfway across the country.

Caroline
Caroline

They control all three branches of government and are whining because someone was politely asked to leave a restaurant. The truth is they are mad we are not like North Korea where we all go around all day and laud the glorious leader. They have brought shame on themselves by their own actions but boy nobody better point that fact out.

MikeSilver
MikeSilver

When a kid illegally crosses the border, the government has no idea if the claimed parents are real or if the kid is part of a sex trafficking/kidnapping scheme. The government has no idea if the claimed parents are molesting, raping, beating their own kids. There is no way to know if the child is safe or is in fear for their lives or the lives of others. We have two bad choices dumped on us by the border crossing parents: 1) don’t protect the kids from rape, abuse, and enslavement or 2) protect them in safe locations away from… Read more »

armanidog
armanidog

“We see that Liberals and Democrats desire Child Rape and happily side with the Mexican Drug Cartel and Sex Traffickers. Like I said, we are now seeing the depths of depravity of Liberals and Democrats.”
Do you really believe that? That is a broad brush.

Gregs
Gregs

Can you say “false choice?” Can you build a bigger straw man?

bethebalance
bethebalance

That post is the real depravity.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

When a kid illegally crosses the border, the government has no idea if the claimed parents are real or if the kid is part of a sex trafficking/kidnapping scheme. Mike, I explained this to you last week. DHS’s own numbers maintain that a statistically insignificant number of these cases involve smuggling or suspected smuggling. It’s like y’all compete to see who can be the most obtuse. There is no way to know if the child is safe or is in fear for their lives or the lives of others. That same logic could be applied to any child anywhere in… Read more »

Caroline
Caroline

Actually they do have a process for identifying sex slavers and kidnappers. But I’m sure you really don’t care to know that. By your standards every child in America should be taken from their parents and put in detention centers and interment camps. I’m laughing at the people who nominated a pedophile for senate in Alabama and are still operating the house of representatives under rules set by a convicted pedophile. The same people who want “legitimate rape” legislation. I’ve been watching the Handmaid’s Tale and I have to say if I hung out in the bizarre world a lot… Read more »

Noway2016
Noway2016

Red Hen meet Natalie Maines!! LMAO!

alpha male
alpha male

Yep. We now have an elected member of Congress publicly inciting to riot. Chastising her is not nearly enough. At the very least, she needs to be expelled from Congress.

bethebalance
bethebalance

Not to riot, but to protest. Although I do not agree with anything that is not civil. Like a direct incitement to violence, like if someone told someone in their audience that they should punch someone else in the face.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

There’s a literal Nazi (not just someone acting like a Nazi, but a guy actively associating with and peddling propaganda from neo-Nazis) chairing the Constitution and Civil Justice Subcommittee.

ScottNAtlanta
ScottNAtlanta

Under that logic…time to impeach Trump since he has actually INCITED people to violence.

ScottNAtlanta
ScottNAtlanta

As opposed to the president who tells people at his rallies to punch people and if they harm anyone he will pay their legal bills. You are a bunch of hypocrites. There is no equivalence. The threats of violence and for that matter REAL violence (bombing abortion clinics, shooting dead abortion providers IN CHURCH). So take your unrighteous indignation and bury it in the back yard with your self respect.

Noway2016
Noway2016
Noway2016
Noway2016

I challenge my Lib opponents to actually take a gander at the love, respect and adoration afforded The Great Man!! THIS… is why y’all will lose in November!
https://m.youtube.com

MikeSilver
MikeSilver

Linkie don’t workie.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Mike, I clicked it and it did. No matter, it’s last night’s speech by Trump in SC!

MikeSilver
MikeSilver

This link may work …. https://youtu.be/NjPU3J2oEns

I’m still looking the much heralded d Bi-Partisanship that the Democrats and Marxist claim they desire. All I can find is physical violence against Conservatives. I’ll keep looking.

Gregs
Gregs

You noticed? We’ve seen this before: David Koresch, Jim Jones and Adolf Hitler all have one thing in common with the Donald.

Noway2016
Noway2016

You don’t post too often. Which is good, actually. You’re a blithering idiot.

Gregs
Gregs

Thanks. You’ve made my points twice today. First, you noted the cult-like behaviour of trump supporters at these rallies. Second, you proved another tenet of cultism, no one may criticize or make a negative observation about the cult leader without being attacked, insulted, dehumanized and ultimately, killed. Finally, many cults will not allow the members to gather information from outside of the sphere of the cult leader but they do encourage the cult members to spend all day on social media trolling others and insulting people they don’t know. Again thanks, I don’t need to comment much because many of… Read more »

Noway2016
Noway2016

So, supporters who continue their support a year and a half later are cultists? Seriously? I assume you don’t include The Hag’s supporters in your characterization because right about now she’d never get a crowd that could even fit into a broom closet. Brings to mind a song by Robetta Flack and the late, great Donnie Hathaway. “Where is the Love”? LMAO!!! No, you and your side continue to hassle folks at restaurants!! Pathetic. Losers.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

I have a hard time believing a room full of folks chanting “space force” is full of critical thinkers.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Says the man whose side is populated with lemmings wearing bright pink pu**y hats! LMMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Gregs
Gregs

I really don’t want to silence you or anyone else. I’ve learned a lot about the current state of politics by reading your days long stream of consciousness postings. Donald Trump and his worshippers are dangerous because they first dehumanize anyone who does not conform to the MAGA cult. After dehumanization, the cult can then justify 1) banning muslims, 2) seperating children from parents, 3) calling our military killers, 4) cozying up brutal dictators in Korea, Russia, Turkey, Philipians….5) banning Muslims just because, 6) equating people who protest nazis with nazis….I could go on but the point is you keep… Read more »

Caroline
Caroline

Looks like North Korea. So you’re right if we’re getting rid of democracy.

Lea Thrace
Lea Thrace

Today is the 26th.

No worries. Blame Ed. It’s almost always Ed’s fault anyway.

ScottNAtlanta
ScottNAtlanta

I thought it was the generic…blame others (since we’re being all civil and such)

Will Durant
Will Durant

It isn’t a librul vs. conservative battle as the Trumpsters would have you believe. President Trump is simply not a conservative. This is true in both the traditional fiscal and social views of conservatism if you view his actions rather than his rhetoric. As long as the Republicans continue to back the near insanity of this regime then they are facing the demise of their party as we know it as well. One case in point although there are many others. Last week it had to be explained to the man by staffers that immigration policy could not be set… Read more »

bethebalance
bethebalance

I will repeat- he doesn’t want to solve any immigration crisis because his base is motivated by anti-immigration animus. He needs it. Odds are that he will also not let it get resolved in 2019 either, regardless of the party in power. Not so long as he wants to get re-elected. If he did solve it, he would have to create another crisis (whether economic or national security) to fan the flames.

alpha male
alpha male

Trump wins travel ban and pro life centers in California defeat the forces of death.

Good day at SCOTUS.The republic survives another day.

Noway2016
Noway2016
Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Korematsu part deux.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Keeping America Safe and keeping his campaign promises. Landslide 2020!

Noway2016
Noway2016

Thank you, Neil Gorsuch!! MAGA!

armanidog
armanidog

It’s all about the ratings.
Trump has captured his demographic and believes he will be renewed in 2020. The rival networks have to identify their audience and get them to tune in.
The poor audience may get reality show fatigue and decide to turn it off.
We better have a reason for that audience to change channels instead.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Psh.. don’t put this all on Trump. Republicans have scuttled every major bipartisan immigration reform package of the last decade plus. Trump is merely removing the filter from the racial animus that has driven this party since Nixon’s Southern Strategy.

atlindy
atlindy

A time-honored tactic: calling legislation that was/is: 1) written by Democrats 2) is advanced by Democrats and progressive activists 3) has very nominal support on the part of Republicans, conservative activists and their voters as “bipartisan.” Now legislation that is: 1) written by Republicans 2) is advanced by Republicans and conservative activists 3) has very nominal support on the part of Demoocrats,progressive activists and their voters is NEVER called bipartisan. It is always called right wing, Republican, conservative and often far right and extremist. Even when said legislation actually attracts a somewhat decent percentage of Democratic support. Bottom line: there… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

So a bill crafted by a Republican Administration, Republican Senators, and Democratic Senators isn’t bipartisan? I’m not sure you know what the term “bipartisan” means.

Also, as someone who was working on this issue back in my halcyon days working on the Hill. I can attest that the work done by Republicans as part of the gang of 8 was anything but “nominal.”

xdog
xdog

That gang of 8 bill would be the one that might well have passed the House and sent to conference but never got called up because Boehner caved to freedom caucus, right?

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Hastert Rule strikes again.

Caroline
Caroline

I guess you don’t remember Marco Rubio being the author of an immigration bill and then the minute the far right Republicans raised objections voted against his own bill. The truth is the far right has killed every immigration bill since 2007.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Caroline, I think it’s been pretty firmly established that the braintrust of Noway, Lindy, Sally, and beta bro very rarely have any clue what they’re talking about.

Caroline
Caroline

Paul Manafort loses in court again today. This time in Virginia. Has anybody ever in the history of the country had a campaign manager in jail? Even Nixon didn’t reach that point.

Ellynn
Ellynn

May I introduce you to Former AG and two time Nixon campaign manager, John Mitchell

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_N._Mitchell

Caroline
Caroline

Kind of. John Mitchell went to jail as AG even though he had been a campaign manager on Nixon’s first campaign. Paul Manafort sure has had a long career in Republican politics though going back 40 years. I guess he was too young to be on Nixon’s campaign or he probably would have been on that one too.

Ellynn
Ellynn

He resigned as AG to run the 72 campaigns and was convicted as part of the Watergate as being at the meetings to plan the robbery and then the cover up.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/longterm/watergate/stories/mitchobit.htm

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Remember when Noway started bleating about how Judge Ellis’ stern words to the Special Counsel were proof that Manafort was gonna walk?

I told you he was wrong.

Caroline
Caroline

I thought it was Mueller was going to get reamed when the actual decision came down and then Mueller was going to just give it all up. Or that is what other conservatives said. I will take your word on what noway said.

The first trial is apparently supposed to start July 25th. I guess noway is already preparing the excuses for Manafort or is going to start explaining how Manafort was really only just a coffe boy. The Trump campaign sure had a lot of coffee boys it seems. Even Generals were coffee boys.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Funny thing, Manafort is being tried for something he did way before his Trump association. Great job! Lol!

bethebalance
bethebalance

Not so far before that the statute of limitations has run, I’m guessing. But what if a maggot had broken and entered into a home illegally ten years ago, but his crime was only discovered after an associate of his was being investigated for a different crime? Let the maggot go?

Caroline
Caroline

You’re just proving to those of us who post here that you apparently are unable to read.

Will Durant
Will Durant

In today’s version of Twitty Pulpit Splainin’ from Sarah Huckabee Sanders we get this gem: “Just because you don’t see a judge doesn’t mean you aren’t receiving due process,” (Politico). This was in response to a question regarding a couple of yesterday’s tweets from Il Duce: “Hiring manythousands [sic] of judges, and going through a long and complicated legal process, is not the way to go – will always be disfunctional [sic]. People must simply be stopped at the Border and told they cannot come into the U.S. illegally.” “If this is done, illegal immigration will be stopped in it’s… Read more »

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

“Just because you don’t see a judge doesn’t mean you aren’t receiving due process.” is something to be expected out of the mouth of Groucho Marx, or Moe Howard.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

“at very little, by comparison, cost”

Seeing as illegal immigration has a net positive impact on our economy (a finding from a Trump Administration study) I’m gonna guess that Cheeto Mussolini doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Also, can’t we just use the space force money to hire more judges?

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

Better yet, we can increase tax revenue by further cutting taxes for the rich and corporations. GOP theory is that every tax cut reduces revenue, but we make it up on volume.

Ellynn
Ellynn

Breaking News… Man most likely to be Speaker of the House if Dems win it back in November JUST LOST his primary. It’s like Canter losing in the primary.

Ellynn
Noway2016
Noway2016

Well, that’s a little victory for the Whiners to crow about!

bethebalance
bethebalance

I can’t speak a lick about the regulations or laws which establish the immigration courts, but they are Executive branch courts. So perhaps the argument is that due process for asylum seekers is just an administrative decision. But even then, you can at least seek appeal and review in Circuit Courts, I think. And in theory, rejecting someone at the border is an administrative decision if asylum is pleaded, so a lawyer could still seek appeal in Circuit Court for a rejection. Not efficient, but maybe more disinterested judges. Also don’t know, but I imagine criminal convictions of illegal border… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

This article is a helpful explainer:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/fact-checker/wp/2018/06/26/president-trumps-misconceptions-about-immigration-courts-and-law/

In short, those seeking asylum are entitled to an immigration proceeding before a judge. Trump is potentially alluding to expedited removal, which we do a lot of in non-asylum cases. The problem with that is not only the due process rights afforded by our Constitution, but also the rights afforded under the Universal Declaration of Human Rights which, as a treaty, has the force of law.