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xdog
xdog

Mississippi’s Gaming Commission OKed sports gambling yesterday and in 30 days you can bet on pro, amateur, and Olympic competition at licensed casinos. Sorry, political races are off-limits.
https://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/politics/2018/06/21/mississippi-sports-betting-what-you-need-know/718650002/

xdog
xdog

The Savannah Bananas are lighting up the Coastal Plains League on the field and at the box-office. Not just anyone can be a Banana.

https://www.fangraphs.com/tht/fruitful-franchise-the-savannah-bananas/

Noway2016
Noway2016
Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Yesterday, Jessica linked to Rush Limbaugh complaining that the “liberal media” is going to “get someone killed.” This morning, Ginny has linked to Kurt Schlichter complaining about the “liberal media” manufacturing outrage… Alexandre Bissonnette, the young man who shot up a mosque in Quebec City and killed six Muslims, was just sentenced to 150 years in prison without parole. His most frequently visited websites and social media pages: – Ben Shapiro (editor of the Daily Wire) – John Nolte (editor of Brietbart) – Tucker Carlson (Fox News and founder of the Daily Caller) – Tim Gionet (alt-right social media figure)… Read more »

Caroline
Caroline

There have been numerous cases of talk radio afficianados attempting to murder or murdering people. Limbaugh is one to complain since he was one of the inspirations for the OKC bombing. They never take repsonsbility and always blame someone else. They know violence is probably going to be coming and it’s probably going to be one of their listeners so they’re trying to get out in front of it with statements like Limbaugh made. Yet, these same people were complaining of “violence” at the women’s march by someone who threw glitter. These people are like cancer.

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

It became a war when people started to fight back.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Ruh-Roh…Hypocrite!
The Hag is now quoting the Bible and Jesus to stop immigration laws?
Funny, in a 2014 CNN Town Hall, she said …”we have to send a clear message that just bc your child gets across the boarder that doesn’t mean your child gets to stay…..”
Keeps getting better and better!!!

Caroline
Caroline

Hey, dude keep it up. Your continual attacks on Hillary are ticking off women in record numbers and thousands are running and many have won already. We’re sick of the misogyny but I also know conservatives apparently don’t know how to do anything but sit in the corner with dirty diapers and fling poo at the wall.

Ellynn
Ellynn

Who care if he attacks Hillary. At this point it’s just an exercise in feeding the MAGA base, and you’re laying into his hands. For good or bad, Hillary is a lighten rod. At times she is more hindrance then help to her party, to women in general and to herself. Women are not running because ‘Hillary lost’ so much that a Woman (it could have been ANY woman) who was more qualified, had more experience, a better resume, etc.. lost to a under qualified male with a padded resume, an inflated self serving opinion of his place in the… Read more »

Caroline
Caroline

You missed the part about how seeing the misogyny thrown by conservatives also was a motivating factor.

Ellynn
Ellynn

Didn’t miss it at all.

You missed the part were being married to a non-conservative misogynist (and not addressing it 15 years later through the lens of history and context) was a motivating factor to Hillary losing?

Misogyny comes in all political party flavors. Not just Bloated Man-Child covered in Cheeto dust.

Ellynn
Ellynn

Also, it’s a known fact here I’m dyslexic and can’t spell or type… just to let you know.. 😉

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Hillary is merely a surfer atop a wave of female empowerment. She’s accomplished a lot of things, but the #metoo movement and the scores of women running for office and getting involved isn’t her doing.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Damn, Carlina, my baby sister just schooled uou like a Catholic Nun! Whew! That was great!! Time for a nap after that!!!

Caroline
Caroline

Yes, because you can’t spell? LOL.

Ellynn
Ellynn

And you Norway can start acting like the grown outdated ‘protect the women and children’ homophobic male human you are instead of a bloviating bridge dweller out of central casting for a ‘Three Billy Goats Gruff” programing marathon for the overbearing male equivalent to the Lifetime channel, or I’m going to laser my skills learned from the many Nuns in my family on you like a 1″ thick hickey ruler slammed down on your school boy desk next to your head as you nap.

Caroline
Caroline

You know it’s really too bad it took Trump to wake women up about losing their rights. The GOP has been chipping away at them for a long time. I was telling Gen X women this 10 years ago and they were like oh, it will never happen. Now they see it.

Ellynn
Ellynn

I don’t know what Gen X crowd you talked to, but that was always an issue in my circle. It was one of the main reasons many felt let down by Hillary in 1999 and didn’t back her 2008. The 50’s feminist movement was aimed at not having to live in the ‘married with two kids and cheating husband to protect you and bring home the bacon’ mold and here was Hillary not living up to the standards she had set for herself and otherAmerican women in 1991-1992.

Caroline
Caroline

Yes, I realize that however one of my best friends is Gen X has a horrible husband is miserable and won’t leave. A lot of people say they will leave–I’m looking at David Vitter’s wife here–but when it actually happens they never seem to do it. They say oh, if it was them they would do x, y or z but then when it happens to them they do not. I’m not able to explain why that is. How many conservatives are advocating for Melania to leave Trump? Outside of SE Cupp who wrote one column blaming Hillary for Melania’s… Read more »

Noway2016
Noway2016

What rights are you talking about that the women have been losing?

Ellynn
Ellynn

I didn’t use the word ‘rights’. I rarely do in this context. Having a right is not the same thing as having at least some level of equity. You can legally define a right in most cases. “You have the right to an attorney”. You have a level of ‘expectation’ of being treated equally under the law but you don’t have the ‘right’ to a good attorney to ensure it. Equity is ideal of being fair minded. Women have a right to equal pay for equal work under the law. That’s not going away anytime soon. The devil is in… Read more »

Noway2016
Noway2016

Thanks, Ellynn, the “women losing their rights” question was directed at Carolina’s ridiculous assertion.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Occasionally Baby Sis stumbles 1000% into the truth. Hillary was the worst possible candidate for The Dims to nominate because she is “white hot” hated by most of the country. She and Bill, both. Any other Dim would likely have beaten Trump! Even Bernie! Thefact that The Left and The Press continue to give her a forum keeps the scab fresh. You don’t have any senior member of your party to publicly tell her she was the reason y’all lost and to just go away! Too bad for you. Great for us!

MattMD_actual
MattMD_actual

Bill Clinton had some of the highest approval ratings leaving office of any postwar president. How could he be hated by “most of the country”.

Also, Hillary won 66M votes of out 130M cast. Even with her personality, that doesn’t seem to indicate any “white-hot” hatred by most of the country.

You are just not a very intelligent person.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Matt, please give my regards to Prez Hillary and the, ummm, First Gentleman! Lol!

Ellynn
Ellynn

I didn’t say the most of the country hated her. (Eyeroll)

Hillary is a private citizen and she can speak at any event she wants. Ironically the only time I hear the press giving her a forum is when I read about her on Fox news, Republican congress man start talking about emails, or The Trump issues a tweet.

And I don’t stumble onto the truth. How many times do I need to tell you to listen to me. This is not a new thought in Ellynn’s world view.

Ellynn
Ellynn

This is a great example of the women running for office. It’s also a well crafter ad.

Caroline
Caroline

It is and the one that won the primary in Kentucky. I can’t think of her name. It was funny that Mitch McConnell was the one that told her she couldn’t do what she wanted to do and now she might be elected and be able to look him in the eye face to face and tell him what she thinks of him.

Caroline
Caroline

Amy McGrath great candidate:
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPHaW2775Bg&w=640&h=360%5D

Noway2016
Noway2016

Lol! Ain’t happening!

Caroline
Caroline

I know that. I potty trained two boys and I know how hard it is to do. I just think you can’t help yourself and it’s actually pretty funny. You also apparently have some sort of women in authority problem which evidences itself when you use the word “hag”. I guess every woman who doesn’t do what you think they should do deserves that description. Of course the language you use says more about you than anything else.

Noway2016
Noway2016

LMAO!!!! God, I am so stoked you are here!!! Regarding my use of “Hag”, she’s the only female I use that term with . And thank you so much for worrying about my mortal soul. Now, join me, won’t you? “Kumbaya, my Lord, Kumbaya……”

Caroline
Caroline

No, I know about little boys though mine never sat in the corner and flung their poo like you do. One of these days you might have to grow up.

Will Durant
Will Durant

Noway is only here to troll. Whether actually controlled by Putin or simply inspired by his many minions doesn’t really matter. He is following their playbook verbatim. Create friction, stir the pot, dehumanize the “enemy”, and when out of ammo that fails to wound the idea under discussion then resort to name calling and attacking the other commenters. I am more guilty than most for responding to his drivel but many times I just can’t resist just as the fat trout I caught this morning couldn’t resist some pretty feathers. I’m personally just going to strive to just countermand his… Read more »

Caroline
Caroline

I know but attempting to potty train little boys is something I attempt every once in a while even though I know it is futile sometimes.

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

“When you see Democrats saying, ‘Don’t separate kids from their parents,’ what they’re really saying is don’t arrest illegal aliens,” — Ted Cruz, last week. This week: “All of us are horrified at the images we’re seeing.” https://apnews.com/78a636fca12c464b990339dee94641f2/Cruz's-flip-flop-on-family-separation-shows-threat-to-GOP?utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_medium=AP_Politics If there’s one thing that pols on either side of the aisle know how to do, it’s look out for their own re-election. Dems don’t oppose reasonable deterrents. Who knew that deliberate cruelty to obtain a result that wasn’t going to happen anyway, legalization of DACA people in return for the Trump party getting everything else it wanted, wouldn’t work? Trump does… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Friendly reminder that “illegal entry” is a misdemeanor when it’s your first offense. Outside of Athens-Clarke County we’re not throwing people in jail for indeterminate amounts of time for underage possession of alcohol or similar misdemeanors.

If you want to arrest them, fine. If you want to put an ankle monitor on them while they await a deportation hearing or while their asylum request is processed, fine. But there’s no reason to lock infants up in internment camps just because a bunch of mouth-breathers like Noway use the suffering of brown people in lieu of Viagra.

NoParty4Me
NoParty4Me

Follow the money. Who is profiting from the internment camps? What is the per person fee?

Caroline
Caroline

Well, this is interesting https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-lawyer-michael-cohen-mugs-trump-critic-tom-arnold-n885611

I wonder if Cohen actually did hand over a bunch of tapes to Tom Arnold. I would also wonder exactly what Cohen had to hand over after the SD NY raided his office and residences.

Noway2016
Noway2016

LMAO!!! Stop, please Stop!! Please tell me The Dipshit has not anchored his cae on….wait for it….Tom Arnold!!!!! Completely unhinged!!!

Caroline
Caroline

Well, if he does have tapes they will be released. Who knows that Cohen has or doesn’t have? The only people that know for sure has evidence is SD NY and they are going to use them for charges. Whatever Tom Arnold has or doesn’t have remains to be seen.

John Vestal
John Vestal

No SCOTUS opinion of GA-FL water wars yesterday, but more opinions coming out in mere minutes….

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Breyer with the Florida v. Georgia decision.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Justices in recess. They’ll be back on Monday.

John Vestal
John Vestal

No water wars today, but a reversal/remand in Carpenter (cell phone records case).

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

“Records obtained by the outlet through the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) show that Pruitt spent $2,749.62 on the clothing items as part of his security expenditures.”

“Thank you Scott, very much. EPA is doing really, really well,” Trump earlier this month. “Somebody has to say that about you a little bit, you know that, Scott.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/new-disclosures-show-pruitt-spent-nearly-dollar3k-on-tactical-pants-and-polos-report/ar-AAyVOwH?ocid=spartanntp

The Trump party grift goes on and on

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

I’d say Pruitt and Trump have much bigger issues on their hands: https://newrepublic.com/article/149280/military-drinking-water-crisis-white-house-tried-hide These chemical compounds pose health risks to millions of Americans. They’re in roughly 1 percent of the nation’s public water supply, according to the EPA; in roughly 1,500 drinking water systems across the country, according to the Environmental Working Group. People who drink from these systems, even if their exposure to PFAS is low, now have a potentially increased risk of cancer; of disruptions in hormones and the immune system; and of complications with fetal development during pregnancy. But military personnel and veterans are particularly at risk,… Read more »

Caroline
Caroline

This should come as no surprise after what happened in Flint, MI.

Ellynn
Ellynn

The clothing items are an actual (if some what a vanity ‘I want my folks to look like Eric Prince’s Blackwater crew’) expense for the EPA investigative field crew it would seem.

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

That may be. But Pruitt is well into nut job territory. “The agency also spent $931 in September 2017 on a “breaching kit” — items typically used by law enforcement to gain entry to a locked building or vehicle. Pruitt’s security team has run into problems with locked doors before: His security detail called the police to his apartment on March 29, 2017, when they became concerned that they couldn’t contact him. Pruitt was taking a nap, but the police and guards smashed down the door and eventually had to pay $2,460 to replace it. Despite that embarrassment, the security… Read more »

Noway2016
Noway2016

Damn right! Somebody find Susan Powder and let’s “Stop This Insanity!”
https://www.cnet.com/news/supreme-court-says-warrant-necessary-for-phone-location-data/

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope
Will Durant
Will Durant

A greater reason to switch allegiances has never been made.

Ellynn
Ellynn

My friends call me a food snob because I stop by Whole Foods every 2 weeks. I do this because they have lovely containers of peeled garlic and shallots. Most times all I leave with are ready to use peeled garlic and shallots. Why. The same reason I by frozen pearl onions at Kroger instead of fresh ones – I suck at pealing small items, like a garlic cloves or pearl onions. If that makes me a recover food snob, I plead guilty.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

I use a garlic press… don’t even have to peel it.

MattMD_actual
MattMD_actual

You don’t have to peel garlic, just take the clove, cut the ends down a little and press down the wide edge of a chef’s knife over the clove. I only do this if I’m mincing it.

I sometimes use the jar stuff as well.

Ellynn
Ellynn

So… Which GOP congress member in Georgia or South Carolina is going to point out he is going to be hurting the folks employed by BMW, Mercedes Benz and Volvo in their states? Or the GPA that both imports and exports European cars in Brunswick and Savannah?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-06-22/trump-threatens-to-impose-20-percent-tariff-on-european-cars

Will Durant
Will Durant

How a Trump follower can justify calling themselves a conservative grows curiouser and curiouser by the day.

Caroline
Caroline

Nobody is going to say one thing because it would be going against Trump.

Will Durant
Will Durant

Even if it is going against Buckley and Friedman. Somehow Trumpism has turned the definition of conservatism topsy-turvy.

Caroline
Caroline

I’m not sure conservatism has had an identity in about a quarter of a century or more. After the end of the Cold War they just seemed to flail around embracing white nationalism, crazy ideas of turning the entire middle east into a democracy and just generally becoming the party of God, Guns and Gays. All the money George W. Bush spent did not seem to bother them either. There were no tea party rallies against spending back then.

NoParty4Me
NoParty4Me

LOL! Trump contradicts himself every day. For every bombastic statement, usually tweets, today – there is something from the past, equally stated as definitive that is the opposite of his most recent diatribe.

Sally Forth
Sally Forth

Thank you, Ginny, for some interesting and fun morning reads. And for anybody interested in facts, illegal entry to the US carries criminal penalties (fines and jail or prison time), in addition to civil penalties and immigration consequences (deportation and bars from future entry). The US Code states: “Any alien who (1) enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers, or (2) eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers, or (3) attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation… Read more »

Ellynn
Ellynn

You just WANT Andrew to rely…

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Am I moron for responding to a moron because he deliberately elected to act like a moron?

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

the first commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both You do realize that’s the definition of a misdemeanor, right? Not even a serious one, since the max jail sentence is only 6 months as opposed to 1 year. So yes, it is akin to underage drinking or theft under $500.* According to CBP, 91% of the parents whose kids are being taken away are being prosecuted for misdemeanor first time entry. Half of those people here illegally entered lawfully and have an expired visa. For the record, living… Read more »

Sally Forth
Sally Forth

Nope, but pretending that opinions are facts does. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts. Most important fact in the current propaganda war on America is that a person who comes to the United States without permission of the immigration authorities is inadmissible. Period. In practice, that means that if the person became theoretically eligible for a green card or other immigration status, he or she would be ineligible to apply for it through the process known as “adjustment of status” within the United States. By applying from another country, the inadmissibility problem could be… Read more »

Ellynn
Ellynn

You are sounding just like Charlie Kirk again…

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

I’m torn. Part of me says “this dude is an idiot, why are you dignifying him with a response.” The other part of me says “you’re at an airport with nothing to do.” a person who comes to the United States without permission of the immigration authorities is inadmissible. Period. This is incorrect. I would explain it further but you’ve clearly demonstrated that you have zero interest in substantive discussion. By applying from another country, the inadmissibility problem could be solved This assumes that in-country refugee or visa applications are available or feasible from your country of origin. In the… Read more »

armanidog
armanidog

Hi y’all, I’m new.
Best political I’ve ever seen.

armanidog
armanidog

“Best political ad” is what i meant to write.

Caroline
Caroline

Mueller has added 4 new lawyers from DOJ’s Criminal & National Security Divisions to the Russian troll farm case today. Typically, you staff up when a case is expanding either in complexity or number of defendants. 4 is a lot of prosecutors. Interesting. Must be Americans involved with the Russian propaganda agency since we know Putin is not going to cough up anybody.

Ellynn
Ellynn

I’m going to post this really great explainer on how a photo of a child who the Getty photographer who told a Buzz Feed writer “he feared she was being separated”, and reported by most news sources as going ” to a processing center for possible separation” some how become “was separated” by secondary feeds (including conservative feeds) and then got on the cover by Time 6 days later. I post this KNOWING Noway will not read it and will post a victory link about later. If he does read it, he and others will say it is just proof… Read more »

Caroline
Caroline

Honestly they should have just put a picture of a baby jail on the cover with the faces faded out for security reasons.

I’m sure the nuts will start screaming Lügenpresse over and over no doubt.

Sally Forth
Sally Forth

And while I’m here, about all the “Nazi” bleating – no, there is nothing familiar, not even vaguely, to the Holocaust, and it is a disgrace to suggest that there is. Haters of fellow Americans with whom they disagree have got to bring things down several notches, before their targets start responding in kind. We owe our first loyalty to fellow Americans, not interlopers — this is the UNITED States. And whether or not I voted for a specific person, our President is always OUR President their term. It is clear to all who study history that the death camps… Read more »

Caroline
Caroline

Nobody is saying there are Nazi work camps but honestly Nazi work camps were not work camps when they first started. Right now it’s more like interment camps for children forcibly separated from their parents. And frankly most of this can be stopped in a heartbeat. The GOP has the house and the senate and yet they are helpless to do anything they say.

Sally Forth
Sally Forth

Yeah, I described the Nazi work camps and death camps to make clear what they actually were. And that they were done to people within their own country – not people who illegally crashed the borders of another country. And sadly the GOP does not have a big enough majority to be able to pass a new law — it will also take Democrat votes to meet the required number to pass. But Pelosi and Shumer are stonewalling obstructionists, refusing to let their caucuses vote to make change. If 8 or 10 of them would vote to change it, this… Read more »

Caroline
Caroline

Why should Democrats go along with anything the GOP wants? They spent 8 years not voting on any of Obama’s legislation. Why do you expect Democrats to solve your own moral failures and save you from your own self created disasters? Geez, well, then since you think they are better off I’m sure you will be celebrating when one of your children if you have any just disappears. Certainly they would be in a “better” place wouldnt’ they? The whole child snatching thing is not a new GOP policy. Elian Gonzalez was the first and then you had Newt Gingrich… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

what I’ve seen of the camps looks very much like some of our schools and childcare centers for American children

Are there schools where kids are held against their will for an indeterminate amount of time without the ability to contact their parents or any information on said parents’ whereabouts?

You are, quite easily, one of the dumbest people i’ve ever encountered.

bethebalance
bethebalance

“Their parents (or people who claim to be) abusively dragged them across the deserts all the way from Central American countries” As if it hasn’t been said a thousand times that the families are trying to escape a high likelihood of violence and death. Saying it is abuse for parents to try to save their kids’ lives? And you wonder why some people assume racism? These parents know the risks- of the past and present policies (there are interviews with them that make their knowledge clear) and they still choose to migrate and attempt asylum because between the two risks,… Read more »

ScottNAtlanta
ScottNAtlanta

First Sally, I had relatives that were in those Nazi camps , so you DONT get to wrap yourself in Nazi indignation…period. Terms lie “infestation” tweeted by your Cheeto Jesus are terms right out of the Nazi playbook. The whole policy is right out of Stephen Miller’s (as close to Hitler Youth as we get in this country) policy vault. Not to mention an ati social sociopath thats only 32 years old. Also, if this i so benign, why are the media not allowed to see any of these facilities? Why are these kids being moved around in the middle… Read more »

ScottNAtlanta
ScottNAtlanta

Terms “like” infestation…why did the edit button go away????

Caroline
Caroline

Don’t forget the Red Cross has been denied access to these facilities much like Hitler denied access to concentration camps.
And yes, Trump and the GOP is following the 1930’s Nazi playbook to a T.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

If you’re using technicalities to explain how what you’re doing is different from concentration camps, you should probably reconsider what you’re doing.

Seriously, your argument is “yeah we have internment camps for babies, but at least we aren’t killing them!”

Noway2016
Noway2016
Ellynn
Ellynn

Their stories are always painful to hear. I read an article on some of them in 2017. Your heart goes out to them. The Trump Admin. narrative is if you have compassion for a child separated from their mother trying to escape gang style revenge killing violence so bad that it makes the Blood and Crip fighting of the late 1980’s through L.A. looks like a 4 year old dance revue of ‘The Rumble” from West Side Story you have to be a heartless liberal completely uncaring about Angle Parents. Why can’t we care about both? What I hate is… Read more »

Caroline
Caroline

There was a story the other day about the wife of a service member being taken away. I guess the husband and the children got to stay here but the wife was sent back. Even people who have legal assylum have had their status revoked by Sessions.

ScottNAtlanta
ScottNAtlanta

“What I hate is using the most extreme solution to solve the problem” That there IS the problem…that is the problem… thinking the there is a problem at the border. Unemployment (that Trump loves to bloviate about) is the lowest its been in a generation. There are help wanted signs everywhere, so the argument that they are stealing jobs is ludicrous. There are a whole bunch of S GA farmers that would say otherwise since there were no workers to pick crops (not even the criminals (the real ones) they bused in to do the work could complete it. As… Read more »

Noway2016
Noway2016

Hawg has armed security but doesn’t want us to be able to protect ourselves! Hypocrite!
http://www.theamericanmirror.com/anti-gun-protester-david-hogg-struts-through-nyc-with-armed-guards/

Caroline
Caroline

Pure genius I tell you. I guess it’s the art of the deal where you ratchet up prosecuting misdemeanors to let drug cartels off the hook.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/06/22/zero-tolerance-immigration-crackdown-diverting-resources-drug-cases/727532002/

Noway2016
Noway2016

Don’t y’all love the Lib tolerance?! Totally revolting…Such is the Democrat Party!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5877545/Sarah-Sanders-gets-kicked-Virginia-restaurant.html

Caroline
Caroline

Law of unintended consequences. Conservatives have been advocating for gay people and others to not be served so now it’s okay for everybody. So you have nobody to blame but yourself.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Man, if only there was a law that said you have to serve everyone regardless of your personal religious beliefs…

bethebalance
bethebalance

My personal feelings aside, the reality is that eating at a restaurant is like at-will employment, and unless you are a protected class, discrimination is allowed. That’s why RFRA was hollow. If you want anti-LGBT discrimination, it must be specifically codified. But you will never be able to make a political party a protected class, so being imaginative, if the world got even more politically divided, you could legally see “No allowed.

bethebalance
bethebalance

^Lack of the edit function 🙁
The last sentence should read: “No Dems” or “No Repubs” allowed.

alpha male
alpha male

I absolutely support this restaurant’s right to deny service to republicans and conservatives. But the situation is not remotely analogous to the bakery cases and it’s astounding that some folks try to conflate the two and don’t understand the differences No, those bakers did not want to deny service “ to gays”. Facts are, they served gays on a daily basis. Including the gays who sued them. The bakers discriminated against an act that violated their conscience. They did not want to participate in a gay union. This is a case about free-exercise. And I support the bakers largely on… Read more »

Noway2016
Noway2016

Damn right about the market deciding, ’cause there will never be another conservative patron. Ever. Maybe they’ll last…

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

You’re right it isn’t analogous to the bake shop case… Sarah Sanders chose to be the person she is, gay couples were just born that way.

bethebalance
bethebalance

alphamale,
If you think that these “denial of service” cases don’t have legal commonalities, then you should not opine on anything involving the law.

bethebalance
bethebalance

And right on cue is not only the Supreme Court decision on the flower case, but Walgreen’s denial of service to a woman regarding her miscarriage based upon the pharmacist’s ethical beliefs. “Ethics” and “religious beliefs” being legally interchangeable.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Let’s not complicate this. SHS wasn’t kicked out because she’s a Republican, she was kicked out because she’s an a———. No one is throwing George Will or Mitt Romney out of a restaurant. This had nothing to do with Huckabee’s political beliefs and everything to do with her choice to routinely lie to the American public in support of an administration throwing kids in internment camps.

Noway2016
Noway2016

At least have some cheese with that whine!!!!!

Caroline
Caroline

I have to laugh at anybody who thinks baking a cake is “participating” in a wedding. Participating is officiating the wedding or being a bridesmaid or a groomsman. The people at the service are “attending”. There are no cakes during the ceremony. The cake is at the wedding. Anybody who bakes a cake is no more participating in the wedding than the caterer who brings appetizers to the reception. The baker comes and leaves the wedding cake. They don’t even stay for the reception. I would be willing to be the person that made my wedding cake would laugh heartily… Read more »

ScottNAtlanta
ScottNAtlanta

I think that is just as wrong as refusing to serve gay people. Sarah Sanders is an employee of the WH and is doing her job. Although, she now knows what it is like for those who are discriminated against. My hope is that she will have a new understanding of the way one feels when this happens to them.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Sarah Sanders is an employee of the WH and is doing her job.

She’s also a grown woman that knows full well what she’s doing. Trump doesn’t have a gun to her head, if she wasn’t ok with lying to the American people she could simply quit.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Wow! Novel idea I’m glad you’re embracing. Now apply that to smokers and football players! Ruh- roh!!!

bethebalance
bethebalance

I don’t understand your point. Please do the honor, and apply ACP’s point to the contexts you mention. Because as is, it makes no sense.

Noway2016
Noway2016

He aaid shes an adult who knows what she’s doing and therefore should face consequences for her actions. The the same should apply to the adults who knew the risks of smoking and football.

bethebalance
bethebalance

OK, smokers and football players do know the risks now, after the respective risks were disclosed and not fraudulently suppressed and misrepresented. I don’t think any smoker could go to Court now and win. And- without full knowledge, my guess is that the issues with CTE and football get resolved through their health care as negotiated in their collective bargaining agreement. So….

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/local/wp/2018/06/23/why-a-small-town-restaurant-owner-asked-sarah-huckabee-sanders-to-leave-and-would-do-it-again

WaPo spoke with the owner. Sounds like she asked Sanders to leave in a respectful and tactful manner and Sanders did so without much issue. Telling that SHS later used her official Twitter account to specifically call out the restaurant and insult the owner. I guess that counts at “treating people with respect.”

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

“I am deeply troubled by the emerging details of young children being separated from their parents at the U.S.-Mexico border. We must find a more humane, compassionate approach — one that keeps families together to the fullest extent possible — as U.S. immigration authorities determine appropriate next steps.”— Karen Handel.

How about thoughts and prayers? It’s working with respect to mass shootings.

ScottNAtlanta
ScottNAtlanta

Whats even better was her presiding over the House when the recording of te children crying bout being separated from their families and her saying “you are out of order”…then someone telling her it was “rule 17”. There’s a good visual for an opponent who wants to covey an “out of touch” DC politician”.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

I’d say it’s less of an “out of touch” thing and more of a “she has no clue what she’s doing” thing.

Caroline
Caroline

She looked really bad on that tape.

Caroline
Caroline

More handwringing and a strongly worded letter. She can’t even take a stand on something that is such a gimme as tearing families apart.

Noway2016
Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

1) How are these comments about unaccompanied minors the same as taking accompanied minors, including infants and toddlers, from their parents and sticking them in internment camps? Seeing as I provide actual answers to so many of your “serious questions,” I’d really appreciate a thought-out response to this.

2) Between Daily Wire, Brietbart, and Daily Caller, do you read any websites not edited and frequented by white supremacists?

Noway2016
Noway2016

Are all of us who voted for Trump racists? It seems that’s where your side is galloping toward as November looms! 63 million racists!!! Please say “yes.” It’ll keep my side pissed off and very, very motivated!

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

So you aren’t going to answer my question then?

I guess this is the type of “discussion” Sally and alpha want to see more of.