June 22, 2018 7:04 AM HomeMorning ReadsMorning Reads for Friday, June 22, 2018 Morning Reads for Friday, June 22, 2018 By Ginny Morning Reads 120 Comments Who’s ready for their makeover? It’s shrimp time! These things are everywhere! Life always comes down to the biscuits. Don’t fall for the Outrage du’Jour. Nerds everywhere are already having a hay day with this. Here’s the GMO chicken that Miss Jessica’s been warning us about. Run. The media, it has the sadz. Plus, somebody please tweet out a refresher on Godwin’s Law. Here’s a real Nazi for ya. Look at my surprised face. Sadly, too many can relate to this lament. Share this:TwitterFacebookTumblrRedditEmailPrint Related About Author Ginny Get off my lawn. 120 Comments xdog Mississippi’s Gaming Commission OKed sports gambling yesterday and in 30 days you can bet on pro, amateur, and Olympic competition at licensed casinos. Sorry, political races are off-limits. https://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/politics/2018/06/21/mississippi-sports-betting-what-you-need-know/718650002/ June 22, 2018 7:42 AM Log in to Reply xdog The Savannah Bananas are lighting up the Coastal Plains League on the field and at the box-office. Not just anyone can be a Banana. https://www.fangraphs.com/tht/fruitful-franchise-the-savannah-bananas/ June 22, 2018 7:48 AM Log in to Reply Noway2016 Credit…The Great Man for this! http://time.com/5318121/president-trump-north-korea-war-soldiers-remains/ June 22, 2018 7:57 AM Log in to Reply Andrew C. Pope Yesterday, Jessica linked to Rush Limbaugh complaining that the “liberal media” is going to “get someone killed.” This morning, Ginny has linked to Kurt Schlichter complaining about the “liberal media” manufacturing outrage… Alexandre Bissonnette, the young man who shot up a mosque in Quebec City and killed six Muslims, was just sentenced to 150 years in prison without parole. His most frequently visited websites and social media pages: – Ben Shapiro (editor of the Daily Wire) – John Nolte (editor of Brietbart) – Tucker Carlson (Fox News and founder of the Daily Caller) – Tim Gionet (alt-right social media figure) – Richard B. Spencer (alt-right social media figure) – Paul Joseph Watson (alt-right social media figure) – Ann Coulter – Mike Cernovich (Pizzagate conspiracy theorist) – Alex Jones (Infowars) – Kellyanne Conway (Counselor to President Trump) – David Duke (Former leader of the KKK) – Laura Ingraham But yeah, let’s act like the folks at CNN are the ones stoking racial animus and violence. June 22, 2018 8:19 AM Log in to Reply Caroline There have been numerous cases of talk radio afficianados attempting to murder or murdering people. Limbaugh is one to complain since he was one of the inspirations for the OKC bombing. They never take repsonsbility and always blame someone else. They know violence is probably going to be coming and it’s probably going to be one of their listeners so they’re trying to get out in front of it with statements like Limbaugh made. Yet, these same people were complaining of “violence” at the women’s march by someone who threw glitter. These people are like cancer. June 22, 2018 8:48 AM Log in to Reply Dave Bearse It became a war when people started to fight back. June 22, 2018 9:59 AM Log in to Reply Noway2016 Ruh-Roh…Hypocrite! The Hag is now quoting the Bible and Jesus to stop immigration laws? Funny, in a 2014 CNN Town Hall, she said …”we have to send a clear message that just bc your child gets across the boarder that doesn’t mean your child gets to stay…..” Keeps getting better and better!!! June 22, 2018 9:02 AM Log in to Reply Caroline Hey, dude keep it up. Your continual attacks on Hillary are ticking off women in record numbers and thousands are running and many have won already. We’re sick of the misogyny but I also know conservatives apparently don’t know how to do anything but sit in the corner with dirty diapers and fling poo at the wall. June 22, 2018 10:13 AM Log in to Reply Ellynn Who care if he attacks Hillary. At this point it’s just an exercise in feeding the MAGA base, and you’re laying into his hands. For good or bad, Hillary is a lighten rod. At times she is more hindrance then help to her party, to women in general and to herself. Women are not running because ‘Hillary lost’ so much that a Woman (it could have been ANY woman) who was more qualified, had more experience, a better resume, etc.. lost to a under qualified male with a padded resume, an inflated self serving opinion of his place in the world, and who is a male chauvinistic narcissist bully that most women are smart and wise enough to spot a mile away and avoid at a night club even while 3 sheets to the wind at closing time. The majority of women either had this happen to them or seen it happen to others. They harnessed that felling, be it rage, bitterness, helplessness or pain) and want it to stop. Most women also know that President Clinton might have had more experience and the skills to be president, but personality wise he was (and is) no better the Trump, and Hillary might not be a womanizing jerk, but she is just as much as an carney sales(wo)man as either one of them. And if your a GEN X female (like myself), you might respect her achievements, but you are critical and somewhat godsmacked that a women of her smarts and power didn’t respect herself enough to kick his checking, definision of is ‘is’, a$$ to a curb some where along the line. For those who voted for her in 2016, in many cases she was the lesser of two bad choices. In the majority of the cases of women I know who voted for Trump (they mainly live in Wisconsin by the way) they did so because they HATE Hillary and/or the Clinton Machine. For it’s sins, the DNC was too busy to notice. The women running today figure if Trump can win why can’t they. Most of the female candidates are smarter, know more about US/world history and civics then the man given the most power job in the world, and they are watching him run it in a Emperor’ new Suits. THAT is what is ticking off women (in both parties). They are running because in most cases the GOP males that represent them fell in line with Trump with out question (I’m talking to you David “can’t even reply to a voter email even with a form letter’ Perdue) and for the first time in their collective under 45 post 1970’s ERA, ‘what’s title IX anyway’ world view – they or their children, could lose things they have taken for granted other women fought for that allowed them to who they are today. They watched as Gretchen Carlson took down a powerful misogynist instead of taking the abuse some of them had gotten but keep silent – mainly to keep what they had achieved – and started to think to themselves, me too until others started saying it out loud. To quote a GOP women’s business leader I heard speak in the spring of 2017 paraphrase Dee Synder, “Women are not going to take it, no we ain’t gointo take it. Women are not going to take it anymore.” To say ‘women’ are running because Hillary lost is not the correct narrative and is some cases a disservice to any female who run before her. She might be one of many catalysts to the current Pink Wave but she is not the reason the majority of the women (in both parties) are running for office. June 22, 2018 12:05 PM Log in to Reply Caroline You missed the part about how seeing the misogyny thrown by conservatives also was a motivating factor. June 22, 2018 1:05 PM Log in to Reply Ellynn Didn’t miss it at all. You missed the part were being married to a non-conservative misogynist (and not addressing it 15 years later through the lens of history and context) was a motivating factor to Hillary losing? Misogyny comes in all political party flavors. Not just Bloated Man-Child covered in Cheeto dust. June 22, 2018 1:20 PM Ellynn Also, it’s a known fact here I’m dyslexic and can’t spell or type… just to let you know.. 😉 June 22, 2018 1:40 PM Andrew C. Pope Hillary is merely a surfer atop a wave of female empowerment. She’s accomplished a lot of things, but the #metoo movement and the scores of women running for office and getting involved isn’t her doing. June 22, 2018 1:55 PM Noway2016 Damn, Carlina, my baby sister just schooled uou like a Catholic Nun! Whew! That was great!! Time for a nap after that!!! June 22, 2018 1:12 PM Log in to Reply Caroline Yes, because you can’t spell? LOL. June 22, 2018 1:29 PM Ellynn And you Norway can start acting like the grown outdated ‘protect the women and children’ homophobic male human you are instead of a bloviating bridge dweller out of central casting for a ‘Three Billy Goats Gruff” programing marathon for the overbearing male equivalent to the Lifetime channel, or I’m going to laser my skills learned from the many Nuns in my family on you like a 1″ thick hickey ruler slammed down on your school boy desk next to your head as you nap. June 22, 2018 1:37 PM Caroline You know it’s really too bad it took Trump to wake women up about losing their rights. The GOP has been chipping away at them for a long time. I was telling Gen X women this 10 years ago and they were like oh, it will never happen. Now they see it. June 22, 2018 1:38 PM Log in to Reply Ellynn I don’t know what Gen X crowd you talked to, but that was always an issue in my circle. It was one of the main reasons many felt let down by Hillary in 1999 and didn’t back her 2008. The 50’s feminist movement was aimed at not having to live in the ‘married with two kids and cheating husband to protect you and bring home the bacon’ mold and here was Hillary not living up to the standards she had set for herself and otherAmerican women in 1991-1992. June 22, 2018 1:48 PM Caroline Yes, I realize that however one of my best friends is Gen X has a horrible husband is miserable and won’t leave. A lot of people say they will leave–I’m looking at David Vitter’s wife here–but when it actually happens they never seem to do it. They say oh, if it was them they would do x, y or z but then when it happens to them they do not. I’m not able to explain why that is. How many conservatives are advocating for Melania to leave Trump? Outside of SE Cupp who wrote one column blaming Hillary for Melania’s behavior I have not seen it. June 22, 2018 2:00 PM Noway2016 What rights are you talking about that the women have been losing? June 22, 2018 5:33 PM Ellynn I didn’t use the word ‘rights’. I rarely do in this context. Having a right is not the same thing as having at least some level of equity. You can legally define a right in most cases. “You have the right to an attorney”. You have a level of ‘expectation’ of being treated equally under the law but you don’t have the ‘right’ to a good attorney to ensure it. Equity is ideal of being fair minded. Women have a right to equal pay for equal work under the law. That’s not going away anytime soon. The devil is in the details of how a women proves she is or is not being equally paid. In some states, you can’t legally share what you make with a co-worker. There is no major government agency that looks at a companies legally reported employee income to check if a women is making roughly the same as a male doing the same thing. The current pro- business ruling in the past 10 years by the federal bench over women work place issues have limited options. As Mitch loads the bench with conservative young white male traditionalist judges, the odds are getting worse, and I don’t see a bill on the level of Ledbetter passing congress in the next 3 years. You can’t legislate the removal of bias or retaliation. Most women don’t report harassment or sexual misconduct because it is career suicide. Bias can be slight and sometimes not even realized. A senior male manager has a vender who invites 4 members of the company to go fishing. That’s a traditionally male pastime, and with limited space, he picks 3 males out of his staff of 10 men, 10 women. Or a company has a job opening a woman staff member is perfect for, but it requires 3 -4 days of overnight travel so they skip her since she has a 9 month old and picks the slightly less perfect male with a set of 14 month old triplets and a stay at home wife. If the Freedom Caucus has it their way, a Women will pay more for health insurance because she can give birth. A women might get payed the exact same thing as a male coworker, but if they have to pay 20 % of their health insurance, a women is going to take home less pay, just for being a women. Here is a good article in explaining workplace equity. https://www.forbes.com/sites/ellevate/2017/09/14/why-we-need-gender-equity-now/#735192e877a2 The best way to create equity in the work force and in life in general is placing women in more places of leadership. A major paper ran an article a few weeks ago with some headline like”What Happens when two women win their parties primary for house seat District… (whatever)?” As if no males on the ballet in November was the end of the word. The answer; A woman wins the seat. June 22, 2018 11:10 PM Noway2016 Thanks, Ellynn, the “women losing their rights” question was directed at Carolina’s ridiculous assertion. June 23, 2018 7:49 AM Noway2016 Occasionally Baby Sis stumbles 1000% into the truth. Hillary was the worst possible candidate for The Dims to nominate because she is “white hot” hated by most of the country. She and Bill, both. Any other Dim would likely have beaten Trump! Even Bernie! Thefact that The Left and The Press continue to give her a forum keeps the scab fresh. You don’t have any senior member of your party to publicly tell her she was the reason y’all lost and to just go away! Too bad for you. Great for us! June 22, 2018 5:44 PM Log in to Reply MattMD_actual Bill Clinton had some of the highest approval ratings leaving office of any postwar president. How could he be hated by “most of the country”. Also, Hillary won 66M votes of out 130M cast. Even with her personality, that doesn’t seem to indicate any “white-hot” hatred by most of the country. You are just not a very intelligent person. June 22, 2018 8:56 PM Noway2016 Matt, please give my regards to Prez Hillary and the, ummm, First Gentleman! Lol! June 22, 2018 9:28 PM Ellynn I didn’t say the most of the country hated her. (Eyeroll) Hillary is a private citizen and she can speak at any event she wants. Ironically the only time I hear the press giving her a forum is when I read about her on Fox news, Republican congress man start talking about emails, or The Trump issues a tweet. And I don’t stumble onto the truth. How many times do I need to tell you to listen to me. This is not a new thought in Ellynn’s world view. June 22, 2018 11:25 PM Ellynn This is a great example of the women running for office. It’s also a well crafter ad. June 23, 2018 11:43 AM Log in to Reply Caroline It is and the one that won the primary in Kentucky. I can’t think of her name. It was funny that Mitch McConnell was the one that told her she couldn’t do what she wanted to do and now she might be elected and be able to look him in the eye face to face and tell him what she thinks of him. June 23, 2018 11:58 AM Caroline Amy McGrath great candidate: [youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPHaW2775Bg&w=640&h=360%5D June 23, 2018 12:08 PM Noway2016 Lol! Ain’t happening! June 22, 2018 12:51 PM Log in to Reply Caroline I know that. I potty trained two boys and I know how hard it is to do. I just think you can’t help yourself and it’s actually pretty funny. You also apparently have some sort of women in authority problem which evidences itself when you use the word “hag”. I guess every woman who doesn’t do what you think they should do deserves that description. Of course the language you use says more about you than anything else. June 22, 2018 1:08 PM Log in to Reply Noway2016 LMAO!!!! God, I am so stoked you are here!!! Regarding my use of “Hag”, she’s the only female I use that term with . And thank you so much for worrying about my mortal soul. Now, join me, won’t you? “Kumbaya, my Lord, Kumbaya……” June 22, 2018 1:18 PM Caroline No, I know about little boys though mine never sat in the corner and flung their poo like you do. One of these days you might have to grow up. June 22, 2018 1:31 PM Log in to Reply Will Durant Noway is only here to troll. Whether actually controlled by Putin or simply inspired by his many minions doesn’t really matter. He is following their playbook verbatim. Create friction, stir the pot, dehumanize the “enemy”, and when out of ammo that fails to wound the idea under discussion then resort to name calling and attacking the other commenters. I am more guilty than most for responding to his drivel but many times I just can’t resist just as the fat trout I caught this morning couldn’t resist some pretty feathers. I’m personally just going to strive to just countermand his propaganda in the future and quit rising to the childish antics. Just like that trout I’m not sure that I can. One hint I will give is that when he has no more ground to stand upon his tactical retreat signal is “but.. but… abortion”. June 22, 2018 12:59 PM Log in to Reply Caroline I know but attempting to potty train little boys is something I attempt every once in a while even though I know it is futile sometimes. June 22, 2018 1:10 PM Log in to Reply Dave Bearse “When you see Democrats saying, ‘Don’t separate kids from their parents,’ what they’re really saying is don’t arrest illegal aliens,” — Ted Cruz, last week. This week: “All of us are horrified at the images we’re seeing.” https://apnews.com/78a636fca12c464b990339dee94641f2/Cruz's-flip-flop-on-family-separation-shows-threat-to-GOP?utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_medium=AP_Politics If there’s one thing that pols on either side of the aisle know how to do, it’s look out for their own re-election. Dems don’t oppose reasonable deterrents. Who knew that deliberate cruelty to obtain a result that wasn’t going to happen anyway, legalization of DACA people in return for the Trump party getting everything else it wanted, wouldn’t work? Trump does gets credit for highlighting that cruelty is a hit with two-thirds of the base. The problem was that that is not enough support, even in Texas. The longer the GOP drags out withholding a path to citizenship for DACA people, the more people that are eventually going to be granted amnesty. And that goes for adults that entered illegally too. The longer the GOP drags out lesser amnesty, the more people that are eventually going to be legalized. Immigration could have been handled a decade ago, except that Bush’s capital was tapped out and then there was a Kenyan Muslim in the White House. Another thing for Republicans that opposed the policy is it’s highlighting that Trumpers are inveterate liars, something readily tuned out when they support a Trump position. From the Washington Post: The Trump administration changed its story on family separation no fewer than 14 times before ending the policy “First it was a deterrent. Then it wasn’t. It was a new Justice Department policy. Then it wasn’t. The Trump administration was simply following the law. Then it said separations weren’t required by law. It could not be reversed by executive order. Then it was.” MAGA! June 22, 2018 10:14 AM Log in to Reply Andrew C. Pope Friendly reminder that “illegal entry” is a misdemeanor when it’s your first offense. Outside of Athens-Clarke County we’re not throwing people in jail for indeterminate amounts of time for underage possession of alcohol or similar misdemeanors. If you want to arrest them, fine. If you want to put an ankle monitor on them while they await a deportation hearing or while their asylum request is processed, fine. But there’s no reason to lock infants up in internment camps just because a bunch of mouth-breathers like Noway use the suffering of brown people in lieu of Viagra. June 22, 2018 10:25 AM Log in to Reply NoParty4Me Follow the money. Who is profiting from the internment camps? What is the per person fee? June 23, 2018 8:49 AM Log in to Reply Caroline Well, this is interesting https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-lawyer-michael-cohen-mugs-trump-critic-tom-arnold-n885611 I wonder if Cohen actually did hand over a bunch of tapes to Tom Arnold. I would also wonder exactly what Cohen had to hand over after the SD NY raided his office and residences. June 22, 2018 9:54 AM Log in to Reply Noway2016 LMAO!!! Stop, please Stop!! Please tell me The Dipshit has not anchored his cae on….wait for it….Tom Arnold!!!!! Completely unhinged!!! June 22, 2018 12:54 PM Log in to Reply Caroline Well, if he does have tapes they will be released. Who knows that Cohen has or doesn’t have? The only people that know for sure has evidence is SD NY and they are going to use them for charges. Whatever Tom Arnold has or doesn’t have remains to be seen. June 22, 2018 1:12 PM Log in to Reply John Vestal No SCOTUS opinion of GA-FL water wars yesterday, but more opinions coming out in mere minutes…. June 22, 2018 9:59 AM Log in to Reply Andrew C. Pope Breyer with the Florida v. Georgia decision. June 22, 2018 10:12 AM Log in to Reply Andrew C. Pope Justices in recess. They’ll be back on Monday. June 22, 2018 10:28 AM Log in to Reply John Vestal No water wars today, but a reversal/remand in Carpenter (cell phone records case). June 22, 2018 10:37 AM Log in to Reply Dave Bearse “Records obtained by the outlet through the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) show that Pruitt spent $2,749.62 on the clothing items as part of his security expenditures.” “Thank you Scott, very much. EPA is doing really, really well,” Trump earlier this month. “Somebody has to say that about you a little bit, you know that, Scott.” https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/new-disclosures-show-pruitt-spent-nearly-dollar3k-on-tactical-pants-and-polos-report/ar-AAyVOwH?ocid=spartanntp The Trump party grift goes on and on June 22, 2018 10:59 AM Log in to Reply Andrew C. Pope I’d say Pruitt and Trump have much bigger issues on their hands: https://newrepublic.com/article/149280/military-drinking-water-crisis-white-house-tried-hide These chemical compounds pose health risks to millions of Americans. They’re in roughly 1 percent of the nation’s public water supply, according to the EPA; in roughly 1,500 drinking water systems across the country, according to the Environmental Working Group. People who drink from these systems, even if their exposure to PFAS is low, now have a potentially increased risk of cancer; of disruptions in hormones and the immune system; and of complications with fetal development during pregnancy. But military personnel and veterans are particularly at risk, because PFAS compounds are in firefighting foams, which have been used in training exercises at military bases across America since the 1970s. Those foams have leached into the groundwater at the military facilities, and often the drinking water supply. Nearly three million Americans get their drinking water from Department of Defense systems. The DOD has reported widespread contamination at its bases and posts, as well as their surrounding areas. In a March report to the House Armed Services Committee, the department provided a list of 126 military facilities where nearby water supplies contained PFAS levels above the EPA’s standard, and 36 bases with drinking water contamination on site. “In all, 25 Army bases; 50 Air Force bases, 49 Navy or Marine Corps bases and two Defense Logistics Agency sites have tested at higher than acceptable levels for the compounds in either their drinking water or groundwater sources,” the Military Times reported. June 22, 2018 12:06 PM Log in to Reply Caroline This should come as no surprise after what happened in Flint, MI. June 22, 2018 1:14 PM Log in to Reply Ellynn The clothing items are an actual (if some what a vanity ‘I want my folks to look like Eric Prince’s Blackwater crew’) expense for the EPA investigative field crew it would seem. June 22, 2018 12:17 PM Log in to Reply Dave Bearse That may be. But Pruitt is well into nut job territory. “The agency also spent $931 in September 2017 on a “breaching kit” — items typically used by law enforcement to gain entry to a locked building or vehicle. Pruitt’s security team has run into problems with locked doors before: His security detail called the police to his apartment on March 29, 2017, when they became concerned that they couldn’t contact him. Pruitt was taking a nap, but the police and guards smashed down the door and eventually had to pay $2,460 to replace it. Despite that embarrassment, the security detail now has its own door-smasher. The security expense records also show that $6,786 was spent to install a card reader in the security detail office and to connect a panic alarm from Pruitt’s office to sound in their office.” June 23, 2018 3:59 PM Log in to Reply Noway2016 Damn right! Somebody find Susan Powder and let’s “Stop This Insanity!” https://www.cnet.com/news/supreme-court-says-warrant-necessary-for-phone-location-data/ June 22, 2018 11:06 AM Log in to Reply Andrew C. Pope Trump staffers can’t get laid… https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/06/22/trump-millennial-supporters-washington-dc-218833 June 22, 2018 11:38 AM Log in to Reply Will Durant A greater reason to switch allegiances has never been made. June 22, 2018 1:04 PM Log in to Reply Ellynn My friends call me a food snob because I stop by Whole Foods every 2 weeks. I do this because they have lovely containers of peeled garlic and shallots. Most times all I leave with are ready to use peeled garlic and shallots. Why. The same reason I by frozen pearl onions at Kroger instead of fresh ones – I suck at pealing small items, like a garlic cloves or pearl onions. If that makes me a recover food snob, I plead guilty. June 22, 2018 12:50 PM Log in to Reply Andrew C. Pope I use a garlic press… don’t even have to peel it. June 22, 2018 2:04 PM Log in to Reply MattMD_actual You don’t have to peel garlic, just take the clove, cut the ends down a little and press down the wide edge of a chef’s knife over the clove. I only do this if I’m mincing it. I sometimes use the jar stuff as well. June 22, 2018 9:01 PM Log in to Reply Ellynn So… Which GOP congress member in Georgia or South Carolina is going to point out he is going to be hurting the folks employed by BMW, Mercedes Benz and Volvo in their states? Or the GPA that both imports and exports European cars in Brunswick and Savannah? https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-06-22/trump-threatens-to-impose-20-percent-tariff-on-european-cars June 22, 2018 1:02 PM Log in to Reply Will Durant How a Trump follower can justify calling themselves a conservative grows curiouser and curiouser by the day. June 22, 2018 1:15 PM Log in to Reply Caroline Nobody is going to say one thing because it would be going against Trump. June 22, 2018 1:16 PM Log in to Reply Will Durant Even if it is going against Buckley and Friedman. Somehow Trumpism has turned the definition of conservatism topsy-turvy. June 22, 2018 3:50 PM Log in to Reply Caroline I’m not sure conservatism has had an identity in about a quarter of a century or more. After the end of the Cold War they just seemed to flail around embracing white nationalism, crazy ideas of turning the entire middle east into a democracy and just generally becoming the party of God, Guns and Gays. All the money George W. Bush spent did not seem to bother them either. There were no tea party rallies against spending back then. June 22, 2018 4:16 PM Log in to Reply NoParty4Me LOL! Trump contradicts himself every day. For every bombastic statement, usually tweets, today – there is something from the past, equally stated as definitive that is the opposite of his most recent diatribe. June 23, 2018 8:56 AM Log in to Reply Sally Forth Thank you, Ginny, for some interesting and fun morning reads. And for anybody interested in facts, illegal entry to the US carries criminal penalties (fines and jail or prison time), in addition to civil penalties and immigration consequences (deportation and bars from future entry). The US Code states: “Any alien who (1) enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers, or (2) eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers, or (3) attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact, shall, for the first commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both.” Illegal entry also carries consequences for anyone who might later attempt to apply for a green card or other immigration benefit. The penalties and consequences get progressively more severe if a person enters illegally more than once, or enters illegally after an order of removal (deportation) or having been convicted of an aggravated felony. It ain’t bean bag or underage drinking, for sure. June 22, 2018 2:00 PM Log in to Reply Ellynn You just WANT Andrew to rely… June 22, 2018 2:08 PM Log in to Reply Andrew C. Pope Am I moron for responding to a moron because he deliberately elected to act like a moron? June 22, 2018 2:20 PM Log in to Reply Andrew C. Pope the first commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both You do realize that’s the definition of a misdemeanor, right? Not even a serious one, since the max jail sentence is only 6 months as opposed to 1 year. So yes, it is akin to underage drinking or theft under $500.* According to CBP, 91% of the parents whose kids are being taken away are being prosecuted for misdemeanor first time entry. Half of those people here illegally entered lawfully and have an expired visa. For the record, living in the United States on an expired visa is not a crime, it’s a civil violation, like a parking ticket. *I hope my posting of facts did not offend your delicate sensibilities June 22, 2018 2:19 PM Log in to Reply Sally Forth Nope, but pretending that opinions are facts does. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts. Most important fact in the current propaganda war on America is that a person who comes to the United States without permission of the immigration authorities is inadmissible. Period. In practice, that means that if the person became theoretically eligible for a green card or other immigration status, he or she would be ineligible to apply for it through the process known as “adjustment of status” within the United States. By applying from another country, the inadmissibility problem could be solved – unless the person had already stayed in the U.S. for six months or more without a right to be there. In that case, he or she would run into a separate ground of inadmissibility, based on “unlawful presence” in the United States. If a person was deported from the U.S. on the basis of a conviction for an aggravated felony (other than illegal entry or reentry), then the improper entry itself is considered to be an aggravated felony. (See 8 U.S.C. § 1101(a)(43)(O).) Having one of more aggravated felonies on one’s record is a huge problem that bars a person from virtually all immigration benefits, and grounds for deporting (under 8 U.S.C. 1227, I.N.A. Section 237). So the US Border Patrol and HSA authorities at the Mexican border are currently having to sort out the flood of humanity that has entered the US illegally, and figure out which category they fit. For those illegal aliens to drag along children thousands of miles through the hot desert is committing child abuse, and putting kids into this bad situation is unconscionable. But that doesn’t seem to matter to the leftist media and the leftist/socialist people in our midst. Trump haters do not care about obeying the laws of our nation, nor do they care about innocent fellow Americans who are thrust into their web of chaos and potentially harmed by the bad apples that have used children so atrociously. I believe US officials should start sorting them out by doing DNA swabs to prove whether or not the adults are even related to the children. That would be a good place to start. June 22, 2018 4:23 PM Log in to Reply Ellynn You are sounding just like Charlie Kirk again… June 22, 2018 4:27 PM Log in to Reply Andrew C. Pope I’m torn. Part of me says “this dude is an idiot, why are you dignifying him with a response.” The other part of me says “you’re at an airport with nothing to do.” a person who comes to the United States without permission of the immigration authorities is inadmissible. Period. This is incorrect. I would explain it further but you’ve clearly demonstrated that you have zero interest in substantive discussion. By applying from another country, the inadmissibility problem could be solved This assumes that in-country refugee or visa applications are available or feasible from your country of origin. In the Northern Triangle, that isn’t the case. The wait for visas is too long to do any good, most folks will be killed before they get approvals from the US. Refugee status is almost impossible to obtain. You’ve proven over several posts that you know nothing about the US immigration system. Please stop peddling falsehoods. You’re making everyone else dumber. If a person was deported from the U.S. on the basis of a conviction for an aggravated felony Super super small percentage, but whatever. For those illegal aliens to drag along children thousands of miles through the hot desert is committing child abuse, and putting kids into this bad situation is unconscionable. I would argue they’re trying to save their kids from near certain death, but then again, I’m the parent of newborns that would do anything it took to make them safe and give them a better life. You clearly don’t understand that concept. the bad apples that have used children so atrociously As DHS own figures confirm this is an insanely small percentage of people. I’ve told you this multiple times. The fact you ignore it is further proof you’re just here to peddle whatever moronic thought seeped into your brain and not actual constructive discussion. June 22, 2018 10:57 PM Log in to Reply armanidog Hi y’all, I’m new. Best political I’ve ever seen. June 22, 2018 2:04 PM Log in to Reply armanidog “Best political ad” is what i meant to write. June 22, 2018 3:10 PM Log in to Reply Caroline Mueller has added 4 new lawyers from DOJ’s Criminal & National Security Divisions to the Russian troll farm case today. Typically, you staff up when a case is expanding either in complexity or number of defendants. 4 is a lot of prosecutors. Interesting. Must be Americans involved with the Russian propaganda agency since we know Putin is not going to cough up anybody. June 22, 2018 3:17 PM Log in to Reply Ellynn I’m going to post this really great explainer on how a photo of a child who the Getty photographer who told a Buzz Feed writer “he feared she was being separated”, and reported by most news sources as going ” to a processing center for possible separation” some how become “was separated” by secondary feeds (including conservative feeds) and then got on the cover by Time 6 days later. I post this KNOWING Noway will not read it and will post a victory link about later. If he does read it, he and others will say it is just proof it was all a scam by the media. It’s not, besides what Sec Sanders is reporting from the White House. Children really have been seperated from their mother’s at rates higher then before, and the DOJ does have a lower age limit then any prior administration on the point of separations. It does not make the story wrong. Time has issued out a correction, but that won’t be enough, because the media is not allowed to make a mistake. It doesn’t maker that the President of the United States is allowed to lie – that’s right I said LIE as in not tell the truth, make up facts, ect – 5.9 times on average a day to the American public. This President does not issue corrections, because he doesn’t think he has to.. https://www.axios.com/crying-girl-border-yanela-trump-child-separation-2d689d72-7c44-483e-accc-30c225f8f1c5.html June 22, 2018 4:05 PM Log in to Reply Caroline Honestly they should have just put a picture of a baby jail on the cover with the faces faded out for security reasons. I’m sure the nuts will start screaming Lügenpresse over and over no doubt. June 22, 2018 4:19 PM Log in to Reply Sally Forth And while I’m here, about all the “Nazi” bleating – no, there is nothing familiar, not even vaguely, to the Holocaust, and it is a disgrace to suggest that there is. Haters of fellow Americans with whom they disagree have got to bring things down several notches, before their targets start responding in kind. We owe our first loyalty to fellow Americans, not interlopers — this is the UNITED States. And whether or not I voted for a specific person, our President is always OUR President their term. It is clear to all who study history that the death camps and work camps were not refugee detention centers, and the people in them were not illegal migrants asking for asylum or seeking to become German citizens (or Polish citizens, the country where the Germans located most of the death camps). They were citizens in their own country. In Nazi work camps, people were sent to “work” to be starved, tortured both psychologically and physically, and killed in droves by disease and exhaustion because of the terrible conditions. In Nazi death camps they were killed at the outset, although a very small percentage were spared briefly to help with the cleanup of the mass killing in exchange for a few more months of life, or to work at other tasks for a while under conditions that would kill them rather quickly (within months as a rule). The object was to eliminate them as a group from the face of the earth. That was stark reality, and it is obscene to make the comparison so many people are making. What’s more, the idea that small children (younger than teen years) were often taken from their mothers in Nazi camps is actually a lie, because what usually happened is that mother and young child stayed together. Because both mother and child were ordinarily killed together on arrival. Teenagers who seemed strong enough to work were often spared, however, and sent to those lovely work camps. How sick in the head people are to call the US government efforts for lawfully handling illegal aliens “Nazi”!! June 22, 2018 5:20 PM Log in to Reply Caroline Nobody is saying there are Nazi work camps but honestly Nazi work camps were not work camps when they first started. Right now it’s more like interment camps for children forcibly separated from their parents. And frankly most of this can be stopped in a heartbeat. The GOP has the house and the senate and yet they are helpless to do anything they say. June 22, 2018 5:36 PM Log in to Reply Sally Forth Yeah, I described the Nazi work camps and death camps to make clear what they actually were. And that they were done to people within their own country – not people who illegally crashed the borders of another country. And sadly the GOP does not have a big enough majority to be able to pass a new law — it will also take Democrat votes to meet the required number to pass. But Pelosi and Shumer are stonewalling obstructionists, refusing to let their caucuses vote to make change. If 8 or 10 of them would vote to change it, this would have already been done. Dems want to keep it as a political arguing tool; they do not care a fig about the children. I must respectfully disagree with your description as “internment camps for children”, because what I’ve seen of the camps looks very much like some of our schools and childcare centers for American children. We’ve all seen kids crying Mama or Daddy because they didn’t want to be at school or be dropped off at the nursery when their parents had to go to work. That is not “internment”, nor is weeks or months long summer camp that some kids initially cry about until get used to it. And let’s not lose sight of the reason America presently has this dilemma of what to do with the kids: Their parents (or people who claim to be) abusively dragged them across the deserts all the way from Central American countries, across the southern border of Mexico and all the way to its northern border. It seems to me they are now much better off in the care of our government employees who are diligently trying to stay within the law and take care of the children. For which we taxpayers are paying $600-700 per day, per child, from what I’ve read. Do you really believe that is terrible? If so, what would make you happy? June 22, 2018 6:31 PM Log in to Reply Caroline Why should Democrats go along with anything the GOP wants? They spent 8 years not voting on any of Obama’s legislation. Why do you expect Democrats to solve your own moral failures and save you from your own self created disasters? Geez, well, then since you think they are better off I’m sure you will be celebrating when one of your children if you have any just disappears. Certainly they would be in a “better” place wouldnt’ they? The whole child snatching thing is not a new GOP policy. Elian Gonzalez was the first and then you had Newt Gingrich saying that people’s children should be taken away and put in an orphanage if the parents are poor. June 22, 2018 9:09 PM Log in to Reply Andrew C. Pope what I’ve seen of the camps looks very much like some of our schools and childcare centers for American children Are there schools where kids are held against their will for an indeterminate amount of time without the ability to contact their parents or any information on said parents’ whereabouts? You are, quite easily, one of the dumbest people i’ve ever encountered. June 22, 2018 11:07 PM Log in to Reply bethebalance “Their parents (or people who claim to be) abusively dragged them across the deserts all the way from Central American countries” As if it hasn’t been said a thousand times that the families are trying to escape a high likelihood of violence and death. Saying it is abuse for parents to try to save their kids’ lives? And you wonder why some people assume racism? These parents know the risks- of the past and present policies (there are interviews with them that make their knowledge clear) and they still choose to migrate and attempt asylum because between the two risks, they are smart and loving enough to choose the best chance for their child. The only abuse is in dismissing the validity of these families’ claims for asylum. But we could say this a thousand times- and so many have- and yet it does not register. And you wonder why people assume ignorance and/or hate? June 23, 2018 8:33 PM ScottNAtlanta First Sally, I had relatives that were in those Nazi camps , so you DONT get to wrap yourself in Nazi indignation…period. Terms lie “infestation” tweeted by your Cheeto Jesus are terms right out of the Nazi playbook. The whole policy is right out of Stephen Miller’s (as close to Hitler Youth as we get in this country) policy vault. Not to mention an ati social sociopath thats only 32 years old. Also, if this i so benign, why are the media not allowed to see any of these facilities? Why are these kids being moved around in the middle of the night? Why are state officials not being told about these kids being warehoused in their states? Why are states not being allowed to provide services to these kids? Why does DOJ want to move these kids being moved to military bases? It’s all to keep the press from reporting on the real conditions these kids are facing. Better yet if they are on military bases they can keep the media out by using the ever convenient “we have state secrets on this base so you cant enter”. You might not like being called a Nazi Sally…but these are all early Nazi tactics that were used in the early 30’s against Jews. What they are doing to these families is not defendable. To say otherwise is a lie. You, Sally, are part of the most despicable types of people in this country…the ones who feel ENTITLED to be able to think of themselves as better than anyone else. One can be amused atNorway’s trolling (because we all know thats what he is doing). You are buying and spreading the lies and far right propaganda…and its sickening to read. June 24, 2018 2:56 PM Log in to Reply ScottNAtlanta Terms “like” infestation…why did the edit button go away???? June 24, 2018 2:57 PM Caroline Don’t forget the Red Cross has been denied access to these facilities much like Hitler denied access to concentration camps. And yes, Trump and the GOP is following the 1930’s Nazi playbook to a T. June 25, 2018 8:13 AM Andrew C. Pope If you’re using technicalities to explain how what you’re doing is different from concentration camps, you should probably reconsider what you’re doing. Seriously, your argument is “yeah we have internment camps for babies, but at least we aren’t killing them!” June 22, 2018 11:03 PM Log in to Reply Noway2016 Stories that need to be heard! https://mobile.twitter.com/FoxNews/status/1010235510919454721/video/1 June 22, 2018 6:01 PM Log in to Reply Ellynn Their stories are always painful to hear. I read an article on some of them in 2017. Your heart goes out to them. The Trump Admin. narrative is if you have compassion for a child separated from their mother trying to escape gang style revenge killing violence so bad that it makes the Blood and Crip fighting of the late 1980’s through L.A. looks like a 4 year old dance revue of ‘The Rumble” from West Side Story you have to be a heartless liberal completely uncaring about Angle Parents. Why can’t we care about both? What I hate is using the most extreme solution to solve the problem, which although is real and needs to be addressed, doesn’t require a wall. When I say building a wall is not the solution, you’re going to be dog whistled into telling us ‘Ellynn wants everyone to freely roam across the border, raping women, sell 10 year olds heron and having cartels stage crime spears while MS-13 guards their back’. Not wanting a wall doesn’t mean not wanting a secure boarder. It means not want to use a sea to shining sea wall to secure the boarder. Modern technology has been doing a much better job then a wall in some sections of the boarder all ready. Solutions don’t need to be only this and never that. Yesterday a raid in Ohio arrested 115 undocumented workers. The plant is still open and the folks that hired them were not arrested. Why not? We can stop harden criminal and help the most venerable AT THE SAME TIME. We build a wall, drug lords will find other ways to get past it. Asian drugs are more likely to come into this country by a fishing boat on a remote beach on the Gulf Coast then 10 miles from the McLean crossing. It’s more likely to come into the county hidden deep inside a container sitting in a shipping yard off of Hwy 21 and heading inland by truck up I-16 and I-75 to God know where. Zero tolerances has never worked. It did work in 1995. It will not work now. Even now, the creepy cousin in the White House AKA Stephen Miller is not only wanting to stop illegal entry into the country, he want to lower the number of legal entries. My cousin in the Philippines is about to be returned state side. He was told point blank unless he married his fiancée before he was left, she most likely would not be allowed into the country. Even as a wife of a service member it was going to be harder if the new law is passed. Compassion is not a my way only issue. Neither is preventing the needless pain of the next Angel Parent, June 22, 2018 8:50 PM Log in to Reply Caroline There was a story the other day about the wife of a service member being taken away. I guess the husband and the children got to stay here but the wife was sent back. Even people who have legal assylum have had their status revoked by Sessions. June 22, 2018 9:11 PM Log in to Reply ScottNAtlanta “What I hate is using the most extreme solution to solve the problem” That there IS the problem…that is the problem… thinking the there is a problem at the border. Unemployment (that Trump loves to bloviate about) is the lowest its been in a generation. There are help wanted signs everywhere, so the argument that they are stealing jobs is ludicrous. There are a whole bunch of S GA farmers that would say otherwise since there were no workers to pick crops (not even the criminals (the real ones) they bused in to do the work could complete it. As for criminals…let me remind everyone that MS-13 originated n LOS ANGELES and was an American export to Central America. Also, the fact is that immigrants commit crimes at a much lower rate than American Citizens. Trump can parade victims of violence at the hands of undocumented immigrants, but you could just as easily do the same thing with the thousands of people who are victims of just gun violence at the hands of Americans (just Trump wont sign their pictures). There are rules as to how asylum seekers must be handled and Trump and his minions are doing their damned best to avoid the “rule of law” they love to tout at their rallies. June 24, 2018 3:11 PM Log in to Reply Noway2016 Hawg has armed security but doesn’t want us to be able to protect ourselves! Hypocrite! http://www.theamericanmirror.com/anti-gun-protester-david-hogg-struts-through-nyc-with-armed-guards/ June 22, 2018 9:45 PM Log in to Reply Caroline Pure genius I tell you. I guess it’s the art of the deal where you ratchet up prosecuting misdemeanors to let drug cartels off the hook. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/06/22/zero-tolerance-immigration-crackdown-diverting-resources-drug-cases/727532002/ June 23, 2018 8:54 AM Log in to Reply Noway2016 Don’t y’all love the Lib tolerance?! Totally revolting…Such is the Democrat Party! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5877545/Sarah-Sanders-gets-kicked-Virginia-restaurant.html June 23, 2018 12:53 PM Log in to Reply Caroline Law of unintended consequences. Conservatives have been advocating for gay people and others to not be served so now it’s okay for everybody. So you have nobody to blame but yourself. June 23, 2018 1:47 PM Log in to Reply Andrew C. Pope Man, if only there was a law that said you have to serve everyone regardless of your personal religious beliefs… June 23, 2018 1:58 PM Log in to Reply bethebalance My personal feelings aside, the reality is that eating at a restaurant is like at-will employment, and unless you are a protected class, discrimination is allowed. That’s why RFRA was hollow. If you want anti-LGBT discrimination, it must be specifically codified. But you will never be able to make a political party a protected class, so being imaginative, if the world got even more politically divided, you could legally see “No allowed. June 24, 2018 1:59 AM Log in to Reply bethebalance ^Lack of the edit function 🙁 The last sentence should read: “No Dems” or “No Repubs” allowed. June 24, 2018 2:01 AM Log in to Reply alpha male I absolutely support this restaurant’s right to deny service to republicans and conservatives. But the situation is not remotely analogous to the bakery cases and it’s astounding that some folks try to conflate the two and don’t understand the differences No, those bakers did not want to deny service “ to gays”. Facts are, they served gays on a daily basis. Including the gays who sued them. The bakers discriminated against an act that violated their conscience. They did not want to participate in a gay union. This is a case about free-exercise. And I support the bakers largely on that constitutional basis. In the Sanders case there is no con law component. I support the Red Hen solely due to libertarian impulses. The proprietor started their establishment. They presumably funded it. And they work it. They should be able to serve, or not serve, whomever they please. In fact I support their right, and would in fact encourage them to post a sign stating that they do not serve conservatives or republicans. I suspect however that such a sign will not for long be necessary. Let the free market sort it out. June 24, 2018 2:59 PM Noway2016 Damn right about the market deciding, ’cause there will never be another conservative patron. Ever. Maybe they’ll last… June 24, 2018 4:06 PM Andrew C. Pope You’re right it isn’t analogous to the bake shop case… Sarah Sanders chose to be the person she is, gay couples were just born that way. June 24, 2018 4:34 PM bethebalance alphamale, If you think that these “denial of service” cases don’t have legal commonalities, then you should not opine on anything involving the law. June 25, 2018 10:05 AM bethebalance And right on cue is not only the Supreme Court decision on the flower case, but Walgreen’s denial of service to a woman regarding her miscarriage based upon the pharmacist’s ethical beliefs. “Ethics” and “religious beliefs” being legally interchangeable. June 25, 2018 10:10 AM Andrew C. Pope Let’s not complicate this. SHS wasn’t kicked out because she’s a Republican, she was kicked out because she’s an a———. No one is throwing George Will or Mitt Romney out of a restaurant. This had nothing to do with Huckabee’s political beliefs and everything to do with her choice to routinely lie to the American public in support of an administration throwing kids in internment camps. June 24, 2018 1:12 PM Log in to Reply Noway2016 At least have some cheese with that whine!!!!! June 24, 2018 3:37 PM Caroline I have to laugh at anybody who thinks baking a cake is “participating” in a wedding. Participating is officiating the wedding or being a bridesmaid or a groomsman. The people at the service are “attending”. There are no cakes during the ceremony. The cake is at the wedding. Anybody who bakes a cake is no more participating in the wedding than the caterer who brings appetizers to the reception. The baker comes and leaves the wedding cake. They don’t even stay for the reception. I would be willing to be the person that made my wedding cake would laugh heartily at being considered as participating in my wedding. June 24, 2018 7:02 PM Log in to Reply ScottNAtlanta I think that is just as wrong as refusing to serve gay people. Sarah Sanders is an employee of the WH and is doing her job. Although, she now knows what it is like for those who are discriminated against. My hope is that she will have a new understanding of the way one feels when this happens to them. June 24, 2018 3:14 PM Log in to Reply Andrew C. Pope Sarah Sanders is an employee of the WH and is doing her job. She’s also a grown woman that knows full well what she’s doing. Trump doesn’t have a gun to her head, if she wasn’t ok with lying to the American people she could simply quit. June 24, 2018 4:36 PM Log in to Reply Noway2016 Wow! Novel idea I’m glad you’re embracing. Now apply that to smokers and football players! Ruh- roh!!! June 25, 2018 10:09 AM Log in to Reply bethebalance I don’t understand your point. Please do the honor, and apply ACP’s point to the contexts you mention. Because as is, it makes no sense. June 25, 2018 10:13 AM Noway2016 He aaid shes an adult who knows what she’s doing and therefore should face consequences for her actions. The the same should apply to the adults who knew the risks of smoking and football. June 25, 2018 10:49 AM bethebalance OK, smokers and football players do know the risks now, after the respective risks were disclosed and not fraudulently suppressed and misrepresented. I don’t think any smoker could go to Court now and win. And- without full knowledge, my guess is that the issues with CTE and football get resolved through their health care as negotiated in their collective bargaining agreement. So…. June 25, 2018 11:25 AM Andrew C. Pope https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/local/wp/2018/06/23/why-a-small-town-restaurant-owner-asked-sarah-huckabee-sanders-to-leave-and-would-do-it-again WaPo spoke with the owner. Sounds like she asked Sanders to leave in a respectful and tactful manner and Sanders did so without much issue. Telling that SHS later used her official Twitter account to specifically call out the restaurant and insult the owner. I guess that counts at “treating people with respect.” June 25, 2018 10:24 AM Log in to Reply Dave Bearse “I am deeply troubled by the emerging details of young children being separated from their parents at the U.S.-Mexico border. We must find a more humane, compassionate approach — one that keeps families together to the fullest extent possible — as U.S. immigration authorities determine appropriate next steps.”— Karen Handel. How about thoughts and prayers? It’s working with respect to mass shootings. June 24, 2018 1:38 PM Log in to Reply ScottNAtlanta Whats even better was her presiding over the House when the recording of te children crying bout being separated from their families and her saying “you are out of order”…then someone telling her it was “rule 17”. There’s a good visual for an opponent who wants to covey an “out of touch” DC politician”. June 24, 2018 3:18 PM Log in to Reply Andrew C. Pope I’d say it’s less of an “out of touch” thing and more of a “she has no clue what she’s doing” thing. June 24, 2018 4:37 PM Log in to Reply Caroline She looked really bad on that tape. June 25, 2018 8:03 AM Log in to Reply Caroline More handwringing and a strongly worded letter. She can’t even take a stand on something that is such a gimme as tearing families apart. June 24, 2018 6:55 PM Log in to Reply Noway2016 Well, well, well…more Dim hypocracy! https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailywire.com/news/32109/watch-obama-told-migrants-not-send-their-kids-ryan-saavedra%3famp June 24, 2018 6:56 PM Log in to Reply Andrew C. Pope 1) How are these comments about unaccompanied minors the same as taking accompanied minors, including infants and toddlers, from their parents and sticking them in internment camps? Seeing as I provide actual answers to so many of your “serious questions,” I’d really appreciate a thought-out response to this. 2) Between Daily Wire, Brietbart, and Daily Caller, do you read any websites not edited and frequented by white supremacists? June 24, 2018 7:37 PM Log in to Reply Noway2016 Are all of us who voted for Trump racists? It seems that’s where your side is galloping toward as November looms! 63 million racists!!! Please say “yes.” It’ll keep my side pissed off and very, very motivated! June 24, 2018 7:49 PM Log in to Reply Andrew C. Pope So you aren’t going to answer my question then? I guess this is the type of “discussion” Sally and alpha want to see more of. June 24, 2018 11:19 PM Log in to Reply Noway2016 Awwwwe-nawwwww!! Lol! Hypocracy! https://www.mediaite.com/tv/obama-dhs-sec-jeh-johnson-freely-admits-they-detained-children-families-we-believed-it-was-necessary/ June 24, 2018 7:58 PM Log in to Reply Add a Comment Cancel replyYou must be logged in to post a comment.