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Caroline
Caroline

Comey didn’t do what he was supposed to do. If he had just followed DOJ protocol instead of caving to the right wing and trying to appease them we wouldn’t be hearing about this. The report on Giuliani is supposed to be coming out soon. Trump apparently committed perjury numerous times when he signed his tax forms. I wonder how many counts that is? I guess it depends on how far back they go on the tax forms. The tax experts who have looked at the case are saying Trump’s charity broke every law when it comes to running a… Read more »

John Vestal
John Vestal

Pretty sure it was Bourdain who persuaded a bourbon-softened Brown to go see Blondie. 🙂

John Vestal
John Vestal
Caroline
Caroline

The irony is conservatives wonder why Christianity is in decline in America. Perfect example of all that is Jeff Sessions and the majority of evangelicals.

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

I’m insure it’s a majority of evangelicals, but if complicity is included, I think that a true statement.

Caroline
Caroline

Well, according to Pew 80% of evangelicals support what is going on. So while there are a few voices in the wilderness the vast majority are okay with it all.

Caroline
Caroline

You know what? I wish they didn’t represent a majority of evangelicals. However Pew begs to differ with 80% being okay with white nationalism.
I am hoping that the moderates gain or even take over the SBC because their voice is severely needed in Christianity today. The load against doing things like putting children in jails has largely been carried by mainline Christians so far and Pope Francis has been very vocal about some of the evils going on in the world today.

Noway2016
Noway2016

LOL! Justice withheld exculpatory evidence. Judge has demanded to see it all. Plea was coerced and will be withdrawn. Next!

Noway2016
Noway2016

We’ll see what eventually happens…

Caroline
Caroline

Facts were never Trump’s strong point. Fact checkers are definitely earning their money with him. What he’s attempting to do here is gaslight everybody. He always uses Gobbel’s propaganda tricks of repeating a lie over and over hoping people will believe him. This apparently works with Republicans but not people who use reason and facts.

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

Earning their money on volume perhaps. Trump’s pronouncements are so blatantly false middle schoolers can easily discredit them.

Benevolus
Benevolus

His dementia is getting worse by the day. It’s tempting to feel sorry for him. President Donald Trump said Friday that he “hates” migrant parents being separated from their children at the U.S.-Mexico border and insisted that the “Democratic law” that requires the separation can only be changed by Democratic lawmakers, despite the Republican majorities in Congress. “The Democrats forced that law upon our nation,” he said during an impromptu press conference outside the White House. “I hate it. I hate to see separation of parents and children. The Democrats can come to us, as they actually are, in all… Read more »

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

I though Rocket Man nailed it in identifying Trump as a dotard.

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

Remember when conservatives got bent out of shape when Obama had difficulty saluting an American serviceman when Obama departed a plane with a cup of coffee in his hand? https://www.cbsnews.com/news/outrage-ensues-after-obamas-coffee-cup-salute/ No outrage, natch, when Trump salutes a North Korean general, despite having been briefed it is against protocol for the President to salute foreign military officials, let alone hostile foreign military officials. The explanation was that Trump was being respectful, except that rump and the general look like a pair of stooges in the encounter in video released by North Korean media and not the WH. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/trump-returns-salute-of-north-korean-general-at-summit-state-media-footage-reveals/ar-AAyDTTQ?ocid=spartanntp Trump saluting isn’t… Read more »

Caroline
Caroline

The worst part of all that is that Trump’s salute is being used by NK propaganda to puff up lil Kim. They apparently are playing that clip of Trump saluting over and over and showing the US as having deference to lil Kim and NK.

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

Deference? More likely that Trump is a stooge.

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

Don’t bother with the Comey link. We all knew a year and a half ago that Comey made mistakes, and we all know the GOP twist is to discredit him because his mistakes helped Trump. The GOP has that much integrity!

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

The problem with the point made in The Korea thing link is that Trump’s opinion is that all US-foreign deals have been poopy, and “I alone can fix it.”

Trump isn’t astute. Any North Korea success would be better described as a broken clock being right two minutes a day.
It

Caroline
Caroline

I see Paulie Walnuts is going to the big house today. Has there ever been a campaign manager who did time in prison? It’s likely Manafort is going to die in prison.
Cohen is up next today.

Caroline
Caroline

No, I’m talking about after his conviction which seems likely. The dude is over 70 years old. If he gets a 10 year sentence he likely won’t survive it.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Well, looky here!!!! Lol! Think William Hurt and Robert Pastorelli in “Michael!” “Oh thank you, Jesus, oh, thank you, Jesus!!!!!! We, we Deplorables won’t forget this…
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/06/14/fbi-employee-crudely-slams-trump-voters-as-all-poor-to-middle-class-uneducated-lazy-pos-ig-report-says.html

Noway2016
Noway2016

LMAO! Whistler meet Grave Yard. We’ll see who the “losers” are on November 7th.

Benevolus
Benevolus

It doesn’t matter. It’s the standard conspiracy theory setup.
1. Propose extreme outcome.
2. Real outcome doesn’t meet proposal.
3. Claim ‘deep state’ conspiracy.

P.T. Barnum was too generous. There’s a sucker born about every 6 seconds.

Caroline
Caroline

This is very true. For 3 years now Trump has been saying that Hillary is going to prison. Now the IG report comes out and undercuts all that and exposes the fact that Trump has been lying to them for years now yet, they’re like please sir can I have some more. I would think most of them would have more self respect. Bruce Bartlett wrote about how conservatives have been participating in self brainwashing.

ScottNAtlanta
ScottNAtlanta

Also, dont forget…it was that same part of the Bible they used to quote to defend slavery as well.

bethebalance
bethebalance

I’m sure Sessions just went back to his old note cards for this verse.

Caroline
Caroline

CNBC is reporting that Michael Cohen is saying he is seriously considering cooperating with SD NY and testifying against Trump. They also are reporting that SD NY was able to piece together his shredded documents and retrieve his encrypted messages. It sounds like there must be overwhelming evidence against Cohen and I would imagine Cohen being Trump’s fixer would also include a lot of evidence against Trump.

Benevolus
Benevolus

On another note:
Walmart heirs’ groups deny role in Georgia governor’s race
https://www.chron.com/news/education/article/Walmart-heirs-deny-involvement-in-Georgia-12998169.php

So Cagle just flat out made the whole thing up? Why?
Weird.

Noway2016
Noway2016

With all the attention being paid to the the IG’s whitewash of obvious FBI bias, my Maggot Reports have been neglected. Not anymore! MASafeA!!!
https://www.google.com/amp/amp.wesh.com/article/homeowner-shoots-suspected-intruder-in-oviedo/21292541

Noway2016
Noway2016

Women’s sports are effectively over. What’s next Libs? I know, how bout Jill Mickelson on the LPGA?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/US/transgender-teens-outrun-track-field-competitors-critics-close/story%3fid=55856294

Noway2016
Noway2016

Funny you should use the word “pipe.” You think these angels have fully transitioned yet?

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

For anyone that thinks this IG report was nothing. You haven’t read it. It damning. Lets listen to Rosenstein himself. Tell me this investigation isn’t a farce. The IG corroborated every bit of this. We need a 2nd council to investigate the investigators…Rosenstein looks like the got caught cheating on a test in grammar school!

Caroline
Caroline

Good lord. Sure go ahead and do it. There are cases coming out of the NY AG and the SD NY. It’s not going to help the GOP one iota and the fact that you are using state media pretty much proves that point.

Caroline
Caroline

The meltdowns are becoming legendary. However I guess if I was a Trumper I would be having a meltdown since: 1. The IG report confirmed nothing the GOP has been saying for two years. 2. The NY AG filed a suit claiming the Trump Foundation was a fraudulent money laundering operation. Barbara Underwood also says that there is more to come from Trump kids’ foundations. 3. The Trump Foundation case has been referred to the IRS and the FEC for criminal investigation. 4. Trump’s campaign manager is in jail because he couldnt’ stop talking to the Russians before he went… Read more »

Noway2016
Noway2016

I’m betting Sensinilla or Jamaican…you are Caroline are enjoying at fatty to be sure. Regarding the Clinton Investigation, not the investigation of her investigators, she very clearly broke laws, just like Down pointed out. Some of the laws regarding improper handling of classified do not require criminal intent. Do not require. The fix , for her, was clearly in. You know it, but more importantly, the American people know it. And they’ll make there feelings known in a few short months at the ballot box. And TGM will use the Struk-Page quotes in every waking breath betwixt now and then.… Read more »

Caroline
Caroline

Repeating a lie over and over again won’t make it into a fact. Hillary didn’t break a law. I know it’s hard for you to admit the GOP has spent quite a while lying to you about that. In fact it should never have even been an investigation. They were trying to appease Republicans by having one. It was all started by Russian intelligence and people like Trey Gowdy fell for the bait. We’ve already had quite a few elections and they have not been good for the GOP. As a matter of fact GOP darling Scott Walker send out… Read more »

Noway2016
Noway2016

Just to be ckear, are you saying that an investigation into Hillary’s use of a non-government server and her mishandling of classified information should have been investigated at all?

Caroline
Caroline

Dude, she didn’t mishandle classified information. You apparently did not read the report. There were a few RETROACTIVELY classified information that were SENT to her. That’s like saying the CIA sends you classified information and you should go to jail. If you’ve got a problem with the classified information that that was retroactively classified being sent to her then that is on the person that sent it. So yeah, Putin bought the party of Reagan for a few rubles. The communists were so stupid. They spent money on military equipment. Hillary broke no laws. The GOP has been lying to… Read more »

Noway2016
Noway2016

Lol! Get the bong back from Drew! Quickly!

Noway2016
Noway2016

All of this lack of intent you apeak of is bullshit that will be honestly evaluated once a second counsel is appointed to reexamine the entire email case. The whole action of The Hag’s setting up an unaccountable and illegal server shows intent from the get-go! Oops!!! Lol!

Noway2016
Noway2016

Mewler. Got snother querstion: Obama said he learned of Hag’s use of a private email account when it was first announced in the press. Problem is – he communicated with her through his own private email handle before We The People found out about it. A big, fat lie by the Prez! Houston, do we have a problem?

Caroline
Caroline

You guys have simply lost it. You cannot accept that the GOP has lied and lied to you so you pretend that Hillary must have gotten away with something despite all the evidence to the contrary. PS. There’s nothing illegal about using a private server. Comey used gmail which was a personal account and nobody is yammering about him going to jail for that. Jason Chaffetz also used a private email address and no one is condemning him. The fact that it was a private server made no difference in the state department because everytime she emailed someone in the… Read more »

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Not true at all! COMEY LAID OUT HIMSELF THE CRIMES HILLARY COMMITTED. Then was the judge, jury himself, got fired for it and this whole shebang is due to abuse of power! What are smoking? And a second special council might not help the GOP. You are right. It will help all Americans. From corrupt officials. Lets see how many more FBI agents get fired. And many criminally referred. #2 in command is right now. #1 should be. So its all nothing…the prior link and the grilling that Rosenstein got sums it up accurately. Kind of hard to dispute it… Read more »

Caroline
Caroline

Dude. You need help. Please get some.

alpha male
alpha male

Yep. The take from the mainstream media, aka PR arm of the democrat party, is disgraceful and dishonest. This report is devastating. It show both blatant pro Hillary bias and virulent anti Trump bias, encompassing both the Hillary email whitewash and how the “Russia collusion” investigation has been handled. And one of the lead prosecutors on both cases not only is openly biased, but expresses the apparent willingness to use his position to affect the outcome of the election. There is now no way the Mueller investigation can be considered anything other than a partisan witch hunt by anyone other… Read more »

alpha male
alpha male

Horowitz right now before the senate committee: “ we are not convinced Peter Strzok’s decision to prioritize the Russia investigation above the Clinton email investigation was NOT influenced by bias”.

Game. Set. Match.

bethebalance
bethebalance

“We cannot say there was 0% bias” is a far cry from “The investigations were 100% biased.” Srtozk (sp.?) and his lawyer love were clearly biased, but that doesn’t mean: 1) That his decisions were wrong, in that they would have been different if he was unbiased; and 2) He had the power to bring his biases to fruit. In fact, he may have prioritized the Russia investigation, but there wasn’t a leak about that investigation, only the Clinton one. So there was also clearly some anti-Clinton bias as well (Comey perhaps being the most biased). So in the end,… Read more »

bethebalance
bethebalance

Yes, what you say in your #2 is what I was trying to say in my #1.
I’m sure there is also a poop joke to be had with that line.
As for Giulaini, it seems obvious he knew of the Clinton investigation before the Oct. announcement. He just couldn’t help himself from blurting it out.
And as for those commenters you mention, I avoid emotional entanglement, and view any discussion as an experiment in rhetoric.

Caroline
Caroline

Whoops. Another meeting with the Russians. This one Roger Stone arranged by Michael Caputo. It seems Roger lied about this to the house intelligence committee. I’m not sure if lying to the intelligence committee is a crime but it looks like Stone and Caputo both are going to be indicted.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Message to The FBI / Clinton Apologists: what to do about the Feebies who took the Freebies from the press? Hmmmmmm??? Folks been put in the slammer for doing same thing!

Noway2016
Caroline
Caroline

Man that totally means nothing but then you knew that. BTW Peter Strzok is going to testify under oath and not plead the 5th. He’s tired of having his name smeared by you guys.

Noway2016
Noway2016

When is he testifying?

Caroline
Caroline

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/17/politics/peter-strzok-house-judiciary-committee-testify/index.html

Whenever they want him to. Apparently the GOP has been lying to you about that too. He was always willing to talk.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Smeared!? Lol! So, Carolina, you’re ok with his publicized texts? No controversy, pure as wind driven snow?

Caroline
Caroline

Dude, the texts were not completely publicized. It was a cut and paste job silly where Devin Nunes only released some to create a fake narrative. Just like the GOP has done with emails and all other kinds of things, they alter them and feed them to you guys and the press. Good lord you’re hysterical. He’s willing to go in front of everybody unlike Trump who is hiding and afraid of Mueller.

Noway2016
Noway2016

And it’s Alexa Jones, the Grand Dame of conspiracy! Lol! Total mental breakdown!

Will Durant
Will Durant

I just finished James Clapper’s book and even though I went into it with some skepticism he did change my perspective if not my mind on a few things, reinforced some others, and some of them are currently under discussion in this thread along with the Handel/IG one. The view of an avowed patriot in service to his country for 55 years is well worth the read as he is sometimes defiant and at other times self deprecating in his past actions, but obvious in that he did what he felt was right at the time. Just a few snippets:… Read more »

Caroline
Caroline

Lynch could have handed it off to Sally Yates to make the announcement that there was nothing there. That actually would have been preferable since the FBI hands off their findings to DOJ as a matter of policy and procedure. Bruce Bartlett wrote a book about many conservatives have done what is called “self-brainwashing” where they get all their news from Fox and no longer can determine fact from fiction. I think that is what you have here instead of Russian bots. However they also could have allowed themselves to be brainwashed by Russian bots. I have a friend who… Read more »

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Caroline, so you think Comey was not biased when the report just throttled him? You libs were about the castrate the big babboon…now he is Jesus?! Strzok was head of the investigation of Clinton emails and turns on a time to Trump…then tells his hysterical girlfriend, “Oh they is no way WE are going to let that happen” !! Democratic paid for memo? FISA Court lies. The excuse used to spy on Trump!? All this is just honorable investigative work! I would love to listen to your discussion if this were done to Hillary or Obama! Just try to be… Read more »

Caroline
Caroline

Dude, the report shows he broke protocol the same thing we have been saying for two years. However you have not read the report and just keep repeating your false talking points the GOP tells you to spread.

Noway2016
Noway2016

You and Sniv GOTTA stop missing your Thorozine dosages!!

Noway2016
Noway2016

C’mon, Slick! Be a sport!!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ec8XZLAckA

Noway2016
Caroline
Caroline

ROTFLMAO. You do realize that Matt Drudge was pushing this discredited story like 20 years ago and he got a DNA test done and this whole story was found to be yet another hoax conservatives fell for.