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Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Happy belated Valentine’s Day to the First Lady and Donald Trump. I wonder what those two lovebirds are going to talk about over breakfast this morning…

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/donald-trump-a-playboy-model-and-a-system-for-concealing-infidelity-national-enquirer-karen-mcdougal

http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-stormy-daniels-stephanie-clifford-porn-star-affair-807218

bethebalance
bethebalance

That article about how Trump was having multiple affairs, assaulting and manipulating women, with such disrespect for them and his marriage…made me throw up in my mouth, and I’m still nauseous. Of particular note to some (OK, one person) on this forum was his insulting use of the word “hag” for an older woman he doesn’t like. All his lies and hate have corrupted, and when they all come to full light, may God have mercy on their souls.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Damn, that sounds ominous! LOL! What the heck are you talking about? How is my calling The Hag…The Hag, connected to Trump’s affairs and who’s souls will need mercy? I’m confused…

bethebalance
bethebalance

In the New Yorker article linked by ACP, your man was quoted as using that insult against the mother of one of his (numerous) mistresses. I’ve always found that word misogynistic – and it’s clearly a way to hate on older women in particular. Don’t know where you picked up the word from, but there are probably many that did pick it up from the man they so admire. And it’s that admiration-that infatuation with him amidst the world of lies he has created-that is the ominous part to me. All those lies will come crashing down at some point,… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

There’s a great podcast out there called “Slow Burn” that takes a deep dive into the Watergate scandal. One of the episodes dealt with Nixon loyalists who continued to support him even as evidence of wrongdoing mounted. Eventually, the weight of evidence broke even the most loyal Nixon supporters. I remain steadfast in my belief that the same will happen for most of the MAGA folks. Don’t get me wrong, the white nationalists, anti-Semites, and bigots who glommed onto Trump’s campaign as a vehicle to peddle their hatred to a wider audience will still be just as deplorable as they… Read more »

Noway2016
Noway2016

Drew, I supported Moore before the scandal, questioned the timing of the accusation and said if it were true then he shouldn’t be elected. Why do you continue this? Seriously.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Why do you continue this? Seriously. You answered your own question. Your response to multiple, credible allegations detailing Moore’s sexual assault of children was to 1) challenge the veracity of the accusers and 2) continue to support Moore without blinking. In your brain, a woman is only credible if her allegations of sexual assault are levied against Democrats. This is the same mindset Trump employed in supporting Moore. It’s the same mindset he’s employing in supporting Rob Porter. It’s the same mindset he employed with Bill Clinton (back when he liked Bill Clinton), Bill Cosby (back when he liked Bill… Read more »

Noway2016
Noway2016

Love his policies! Common sense. And none of the other Repubs could have gotten elected and therefore counldn’t have enacted any of them.

bethebalance
bethebalance

I would say you’re right abt him getting elected, because he did draw upon a new segment of anti-immigrant voters. But…HRC was not well liked by many Dems, and the Russian trolls would have done what they did, adapted to circumstance, regardless…so…I think any Republican except Ted Cruz could have won as well.

Noway2016
Noway2016

What part of my saying if the allegations were true that he shouldn’t be elected do you not understand? Seriously, I said that as the scenario unfolded and you know I did. So, go ahead and perpetuate your lie as it applies to my case if you must. I still don’t understand it.

bethebalance
bethebalance

Since there are 2 conversations mixed into this thread, I’ll offer a thought- that the position that “If the allegations are true…” was non-committal, and as a starting point threw doubt upon what appeared to be credible testimony, and was a de facto way of saying let’s elect Moore first, then figure it out. But if elected, Roy Moore wouldn’t step down for any reason except being physically removed by police. So, you kind of had to take a stand before the election on whether you believed the women, and whether even if true, you would support your party’s nominee.… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

“If true” is a cop out that operates under the lie that false allegations are just as likely as real ones. Studies have shown that the rate of false accusations of sexual assault is 2%. Even the most pessimistic of studies top out at 10% of accusations being false. Saying “if true” is the polite society way of discrediting the accusers and supporting the accused. There were multiple allegations against Moore (just like there are multiple allegations against Trump) that all shared factual similarities and patterns. On top of that, there were contemporaneous reports of his suspicious behavior toward younger… Read more »

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

The talk will be about making sure Melania’s parents are grandfathered in to the GOP prohibition on chain migration.

Noway2016
Noway2016
Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

“At some point we’re going to be fatigued with everybody being a victim”

Words you should remember the next time you’re whining about Starbucks cups.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Simple reflex. Almost another Pavlovian response. I write something, you just gotta respond. For the record, I have never written anything about a Starbux cup. I don’t go there.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Are you now you’re claiming to be the victim of my sick burns? What would Clarence Thomas say?

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

It’s not like there’s an Anita Hill in Thomas’ background or anything.

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

Guns were the subject of the day yesterday, so I refrained from commenting on Kyle Wingfield’s Thursday morning column in the AJC on the collective state tax increase caused by national tax legislation. Wingfield makes some good points on tax law changes to eliminate the increase, but then there was this: “Georgia’s steeply, and needlessly, progressive rate structure could be condensed to a single rate.” From the Federation of Tax Administrators: http://www.taxadmin.org/assets/docs/Research/Rates/ind_inc.pdf 8 of 40 states with income taxes have flat taxes. Comparing Georgia to the 32 states and DC with graduated rates, only Alabama’s is flatter than Georgia’s. Georgia’s… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Laura Ingraham said that LeBron James is unqualified to discuss politics because he’s only got a high school diploma.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2018/02/16/fox-newss-laura-ingraham-to-lebron-james-and-kevin-durant-shut-up-and-dribble/?utm_term=.b0547609f024

For more analysis we turn to our esteemed panel of Fox News contributors without college degrees:
Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, Charlie Kirk, Kid Rock, and Ted Nugent.

bethebalance
bethebalance

I’m sure there are plenty of elected officials without college degrees. I wonder if Laura Ingraham has ever, or would ever, speak to an otherwise identical white player in the same way. I would say she’s shameless, but it’s just probably just buried so deep she doesn’t even know it.

Benevolus
Benevolus

Re: Story on Jeff Sessions sheriffs comment: 1. Session’s prepared statement did not include the “Anglo-American” comment, and it would have made more sense if he had stuck to that. “I want to close by reiterating my deep appreciation and profound thanks to all the women and men of law enforcement – federal, state, local, and tribal. I want to thank every sheriff in America. Since our founding, the independently elected Sheriff has been seen as the people’s protector, who keeps law enforcement close to and amenable to the people. The Sheriff is a critical part of our legal heritage.”… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Welp, Trump’s narrative about the Russian investigation being a “hoax” just got blown up by the DOJ

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/special-counsel-indicts-13-russian-nationals-russia-investigation/story?id=53147082

Ellynn
Ellynn

Down boy. It only lists Russian activity starting in 2013 of social media and political rallies only, Also using fake I.D.as Americans to ‘unwittingly’ work with Trump Campaign members.

The word ‘unwittingly’ will be the key word by the WH this weekend.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

I’m well aware of what the indictment says. I’m merely pointing out that Trump has emphatically stated on multiple occasions that Russia did not meddle in U.S. elections and that the allegations of Russian meddling were a “hoax” cooked up by Democrats to explain why Hillary Clinton lost the election. The indictment demonstrates that, contrary to the President’s deeply held belief, Russian meddling was real and intensive. The indictment details actions and efforts that go way beyond what has been previously disclosed by intelligence officials. You’re right that the WH is going to seize on the term “unwittingly.” They’re also… Read more »

Ellynn
Ellynn

We still have the DNC hack, the possible Rubio hack, the drunken London meeting etc…

Ellynn
Ellynn

What about the un sealed guilty plea of Richard Pinedo

Noway2016
Noway2016

LMAO!! No Americans had anything wittingly to do with this!! That includes Trump. Nary a vote was changed! Lol! Its over. Anddddddddd Hilly was just a bad candidate. Lost all by herself.

Ellynn
Ellynn

See, you just proved my point on the word of the weekend.

Richard Pinedo is an American. And has plead guilty.

And Trump just tweeted ‘Russia started their anti-US campaign in 2014, long before I announced.’ First time he admitted that Russia messed with the Election, thus no long a hoax.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Ellynn, who is this Richard guy? Tell ne what he’s accused of.

Ellynn
Ellynn

FYI, no one has claimed voter fraud except the presidents.

Ellynn
Ellynn

He plead guilty to selling the bank accounts and ID’s to the 13 in the indictment.

Wonder what else he’s telling folks.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/16/us/politics/richard-pinedo-russia-bank-accounts-guilty-plea-mueller.html

https://www.justice.gov/sco

Noway2016
Noway2016

Hey, Pavlov, was any vote changed from Hilly to Trump? A single one? Hmmm? Nope. Did Hilly lose usual Democrat strongholds because she took them for granted and couldn’t be bothered to show up and campaign? Yep! So, get yourself a viable candidate in ’20 and try again. Poor, Drew. All that hate…

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

So relieved to see that Noway is still around. I was really worried that he was one of the guys named in the indictment this afternoon. I guess they didn’t go after the JV team, huh?

Benevolus
Benevolus

And there is a local connection:
“Another co-conspirator who worked for the ORGANIZATION traveled to Atlanta,
Georgia from approximately November 26, 2014 through November 30, 2014.
Following the trip, the co-conspirator provided POLOZOV a summary of his trip’s
itinerary and expenses.”

Noway2016
Noway2016
Noway2016
Noway2016
Will Durant
Will Durant

Infowars?
I prefer to go old school on my Russian inspired fairy tales:
https://fairytalez.com/region/russian/

Noway2016
Noway2016

Sure, Willy, attack the messenger! Lol! You got nuthin!

Will Durant
Will Durant

9/11 ALEX JONES: Well I’ve been warning you about it for at least five years. All terrorism that we’ve looked at from the World Trade Center to Oklahoma City to Waco has been government actions. They need this as a pretext to bring you and your family martial law. They’re either using provocateur Arabs and allowing them to do it or this is full complicity with the federal government. The evidence is overwhelming. […] What am I saying? I’m saying who stands to gain from this? Who has the motive? Who can bring you martial law and destroy your freedoms?… Read more »

Noway2016
Noway2016

Nice cut and paste. Irrelevant to the abortion story. Hope you didn’t spend too much time on it.

Will Durant
Will Durant

Perhaps it’s overkill, but a bit more than “nuthin”. And certainly enough reason to have not even clicked on your so-called “abortion story”.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Love your piety, Willy! Lol! You won’t be sullied by clicking on an InfoWars story!! Lolol! Lordy!! Speaking of Alex Jones, with his depiction in Homeland, he’s more known and popular than ever before. Unintended consequences?! Lol!

Will Durant
Will Durant

Probably has more to do with the Russian trolls re-posting his drivel all over the net. He is literally just a snake oil salesman preying on the weak minded. I know you are just interested in doing your own trolling but perhaps you might want to click on this one I posted a week or so ago:
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/cognitive-ability-and-vulnerability-to-fake-news/
or perhaps even this one:
http://nymag.com/selectall/2017/05/how-does-alex-jones-make-money.html

Noway2016
Noway2016

I get it. The guy is ultra fringe. I never even heard of him until Trump. Maybe I remember he’d done something on Bohemian Grove. But his site posted some nitwit saying the FL killer’s mom had no right to even have a child in the first place. Just a nut in her own right!

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

It’s not that he’s “ultra fringe” it’s that he clearly doesn’t believe the vast majority of the crap he’s saying. As he acknowledged his his divorce proceedings, he’s playing a character.

Alex Jones says this stuff to take advantage of dumb people who don’t know any better. He does that so he can sell crappy supplements and other unnecessary products to them.

Anyone who believes a word Jones says is admitting that they’re an easily duped rube.

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

Wrong place.

Noway2016
Noway2016
Noway2016
Noway2016
Noway2016
Noway2016
Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

Trump has been adamant that Russian interference was a “hoax” and “fake news” though he has had unfettered access to $70 billion worth of intelligence. He could have known much of what Mueller knows last year if he even cared. Trump has done nothing to prevent interference from continuing, defying Congress by refusing to impose sanctions enacted 517-5.

The powerful word is the word he suggested applies to those that won’t applaud him is a word that applies to him:

Traitor.

downthemiddle
downthemiddle

Can any of us imagine ANY white athlete saying the same things about Obama that Lebron has said about Trump? What if every late night host was saying the same things about Obama that they do about Trump? How quickly would they be fired, kicked off teams and labeled a racist? Does this bother anyone?

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

I checked out for the weekend, but it looks like Noway is now just as unhinged as the President.

I’m guessing he crosschecked the Mueller indictment with his Facebook friends list.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Naw. Just continuing to provide my timely public service by highlighting the national rot that is the Democrat Party.