May 17, 2017 7:31 AM HomePoliticsMorning Reads for 5/17 Morning Reads for 5/17 By edatlanta Politics 25 Comments Which of these songs best represents your Mother’s Day (and I know one of these two will cover all of GAPol.com’s readership) “Mama Used to Say” by Junior or “I Wanna Get Rid of You” by Psychotic Pineapple? Remember when Trump said Snowden should be “executed” for sharing classified info with Russia? It’s nuts how he can’t even remember what he’s said to stop incriminating himself. Sanford Bishop: Re-work, don’t repeal, Obamacare. How Trump is more and more like President Jimmy. Experts: Time for Jimmy to return to North Korea. Just wait for it: Race to enter ATL Mayoral Race. Fmr. State Rep Mitchell Kaye: Why Handel deserves your vote. NYTimes: Stacey Abrams one of the “young black Democrats eager to lead from the left” qua governor. Share this:TwitterFacebookTumblrRedditEmailPrint Related About Author edatlanta 25 Comments Dave Bearse Donald Trump to James Comey in a February Oval Office meeting, as documented by Comey in memo prepared by Comey soon after the meeting, per the NYT: “I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, letting Flynn go. He’s a good guy. I hope you can let this go.” spoken after Trump told Comey he should consider imprisoning reporters that publish classified information. It’s only a matter of time before enough Republicans will put their loyalty to America ahead of their loyalty to their party. After Trump’s impeachment, he can be fined and locked up courtesy of 18 USC 1505, Obstruction of proceedings…. May 17, 2017 7:54 AM Log in to Reply Noway2016 It’s all open to interpretation. He didn’t order him to drop the investigation, he suggested that he wished he’d let it go. Trump didn’t INTEND (there’s that word again…) to run afoul of actual laws by expressing a simple sentiment. May 17, 2017 9:12 AM Log in to Reply davidmac Oh come on. When your 3rd-level manager comes to you, Noway, for a sit-down meeting and says “I hope you’ll stop working on Project B-432,” do you treat that as a casual request and keep devoting 50% of your billable hours to Project B-432, or do you drop it on the floor and close the project? May 17, 2017 10:17 AM Log in to Reply Noway2016 You may have a point IF Comey had actually dropped the Flynn investigation. Instead he wrote a memo to the file three months ago and didn’t bring it up until he fired. Very, very courageous! Granted we all roll our eyes and say, “I really wish Trump would just shut the eff up!” But there’s actually no there there. May 17, 2017 10:42 AM Log in to Reply Ellynn Comey is well known for keeping notes and memos on off the record conversations. He penned thousands while Assistant AG under Ashcraft, and while in charge of SP Fitzgerald which lead to the trial against Scooter Libby. Plus who said Comey brought it up? It could have come from inside the FBI, the DOJ, or from a number of congressional investigation if they have copies. May 17, 2017 11:07 AM Andrew C. Pope Hey there, lawyer here. 18 U.S.C. 1505 makes it a felony for anyone to “corruptly” endeavor to influence, obstruct, or impede “the due and proper administration of the law under which any pending proceeding is being had before any department or agency of the United States.” 18 U.S.C. 1515(b) defines “corruptly” as “acting with an improper purpose, personally or by influencing another.” Proving an obstruction charge requires showing three elements (1) there was a proceeding pending before a department or agency; (2) the defendant knew the proceeding was pending; and (3) the defendant corruptly endeavored to influence, obstruct, or impede the pending proceeding. (1) and (2) are clearly met. The existence of an FBI investigation into Mike Flynn has been confirmed. The President has also made statements prior to the Feb. 14 meeting indicating he knew that there was an ongoing investigation. The hard part is (3)… did Trump have an improper motive ? Did he specifically intend to interfere with the investigation? “I wish you would let this go” can be interpreted in different ways. As davidmac pointed out, when the statement is coming from your boss, the person with the ability to fire you without cause, you can plausibly interpret that statement as one made with the intent to scuttle the ongoing investigation. This interpretation is even stronger when you consider that Comey was fired for continuing the investigation into Russia’s connection to Trump associates. So, Noway, this is all a long way of saying that you’re wrong. It doesn’t matter that Comey didn’t drop the investigation. Obstruction, like bribery, solicitation, etc., doesn’t require that the person actually follow through on your request. It’s still attempted murder if you hire a hit man, even if that hit man rats you out to the cops. May 17, 2017 12:16 PM Noway2016 “when you consider that Comey was fired for continuing the investigation into Russia’s connection to Trump associates.” You’re stating that this statement by you is FACT?? You cannot know that. Nope…that statement is your opinion as to the motivation for his being let go. So, for me to get this clear: You’re saying that that statement alone from Trump to Comey is enough for the House to impeach and the Senate to convict Trump? May 17, 2017 12:46 PM Andrew C. Pope I’m not offering my opinion as to Trump’s motivation for firing Comey. Trump already made that clear: “And in fact, when I decided to just do it, I said to myself — I said, you know, this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made-up story. It’s an excuse by the Democrats for having lost an election that they should’ve won.” To answer the second part of your comment, whether Trump’s statements are enough for impeachment and removal is a political question, not a prosecutorial one. Noted policy wonk Paul Ryan is not going to allow an impeachment vote to move forward, as doing so would permanently derail his childhood dream of cutting aid for Blacks and poor people. Even if you get to a trial, you still need 13 Republican Senators to vote to convict a sitting Republican President. Human/jellyfish hybrid Marco Rubio’s position is, no joke, “it is what it is.” Seeing as he’s never shown a lick of courage at any point in his Senate career, I doubt he’s on board for a vote that entails historic significance. You certainly won’t flip the hackiest of hacks like Hatch and Cotton. The “flippable” ones are: Senators who’ll have competitive races in 2018: Heller, Flake Senators who might have competitive races in 2018 if this thing gets worse: Cruz, Corker Senators who don’t like Trump to begin with: McCain, Graham, Sasse Senators who are traditionally more moderate: Collins Non-hacks: Murkowski, Portman, Gardner, Burr That’s 12 and I had to really stretch to get to 12. May 17, 2017 1:15 PM Jack Fitz This is the part that I don’t understand. McConnell and Ryan clearly don’t like Trump, and I’d say that most of the Republican conference in the Senate don’t care for the man either. Getting rid of him would be great. They get Mike Pence as the President (until 2020 cause he’s not electable) and can finally get on with their legislative agenda (as you referred to earlier). Every Democrat would prefer Mike Pence as well. Say what you will about Pence’s policies, at least he’s sane and would be a steady hand for the country both domestically and internationally. May 17, 2017 2:34 PM Andrew C. Pope Hate to say it, but I prefer Trump to Pence. Trump’s malevolence is perpetually being undermined by his own incompetence. You see, Trump doesn’t actually believe in the things he campaigned on and, because he has the attention span of a goldfish, he doesn’t have the mental wherewithal to effectively fight for his policy goals. Pence, on the other hand, has policies that he believes in and cares deeply about. To top it off, he actually knows the legislative process well enough to see those policies implemented. The reason McConnell and noted policy wonk Paul Ryan haven’t, and won’t, jump ship on Trump has to do with legislative reality. Simply put, Republicans need to pass AHCA before they can move on to tax “reform” for procedural reasons and they need to pass both AHCA and tax “reform” within the 2017 budget window if they want to pass both via reconciliation. In other words, there isn’t enough time for them to seriously entertain a Trump investigation (and possible impeachment) while also trying to beat the clock on AHCA and tax “reform.” They already wasted 5 months on AHCA and it’s being slowed down in the Senate because the version that passed the House is too unpopular for potentially vulnerable Senators like Heller and Flake and the Medicaid cuts are too steep for moderates like Collins. Politically, impeaching and removing Donald Trump all but guarantees the Republicans lose the House and would put the Senate at risk as well. These guys are tied to Trump and enabled this nonsense in the first place. There will be ad after ad after ad reminding people of all the times Ryan, McConnell, __(insert generic Republican here)__, went along with or looked the other way while Trump did x, y, or z. To boot, they’re permanently alienating the base of Trump loyalists that will inevitably view impeachment as a personal attack by “the establishment.” May 17, 2017 3:21 PM Ellynn “They — he (Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein) made a recommendation. He’s highly respected. Very good guy, very smart guy. And the Democrats like him. The Republicans like him. He had made a recommendation. But regardless of recommendation, I was going to fire Comey knowing there was no good time to do it. And in fact, when I decided to just do it, I said to myself — I said, you know, this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made-up story. It’s an excuse by the Democrats for having lost an election that they should’ve won.” Pres. Trump Interview with Lester Holt Just one of ‘many’ things that ‘could’ be use to indicate intent. It will take much more. Predictions about Trump have a way of leading to nowhere, so forecasting actually what’s ahead is a fool’s errand at this point by either of you (she says nicely…) May 17, 2017 1:16 PM Benevolus He is leaving soon on a foreign trip, so the “pump is primed” for more Republicans to prepare to abandon ship. – Trump in Saudi Arabia? What could go wrong? – Is he going to talk about The Wall with the Pope? – NATO? Really? – Oh, and Israel. No particular tension there right now. Oh, wait… – I wonder how the “America First” voters are going to feel after this trip? It’s a sad state of affairs when him again talking about how huge his electoral victory was is on the positive end of the scale of possible outcomes. May 17, 2017 1:53 PM Dave Bearse Discerning intent given Trump’s clear mental defects will be interesting. May 18, 2017 10:21 AM Noway2016 Ruh-Roe!!!…James, James, James…tsk, tsk, tsk… http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/05/16/gregg-jarrett-comeys-revenge-is-gun-without-powder.html May 17, 2017 2:25 PM Andrew C. Pope Jarrett is misapplying and misstating 18 U.S.C. 4. He’s been out of the active practice of law for a long while, so I’ll give him a pass… The mere failure to report a felony is not a violation of 18 U.S.C. 4. See United States v. Johnson, 546 F.2d 1225 (5th Cir. 1977). There needs to be some affirmative action to conceal the underlying felony. For example… an FBI agent is attempting to infiltrate a drug cartel. In the process he witnesses multiple low-level drug deals, money laundering, illegal firearms possession, etc. Jarrett seems to think that, by failing to immediately report those felonies to DOJ, the agent has violated the law. Luckily for this FBI agent, Jarrett is wrong. Instead of reporting the felonies he sees, the FBI agent documents them via videotape, recording, or, contemporaneous notes regarding what he saw. That documentation then becomes evidence to build the ultimate case against the drug cartel. You see, Noway, Comey didn’t attempt to “conceal” Trump’s actions. He recorded evidence of those actions, evidence designed to support the ongoing investigation into Russian involvement in the election. May 17, 2017 3:38 PM chamblee54 The Psychotic Pineapple video is preceded by a Jon Ossoff ad. May 17, 2017 10:14 AM Log in to Reply Ellynn You know the ads are focused based on a targeted audience related to the type of video and your own personal browsers/Gmail (if you use it) mined history right? I got a Grammarly ad with the Psychotic Pineapple video and Farmer’s Insurance for Junior’s. I use dictionary and Chicago Style sites, and the office of the Georgia Commissioner of Insurance site a lot, so I’m guessing that’s how I got those ads. May 17, 2017 10:53 AM Log in to Reply Benevolus I got a Loan Depot ad. Hmm, do they know something I don’t? May 17, 2017 11:45 AM Log in to Reply Lawton Sack I didn’t get an ad because I use uBlock Origin. May 17, 2017 3:31 PM Log in to Reply Ellynn Meanwhile in Savannah… http://savannahnow.com/news/2017-05-16/415-million-plan-presented-savannah-s-proposed-canal-district May 17, 2017 11:40 AM Log in to Reply Benevolus Atlanta should take note. Something about water. Most great cities exploit their water features. Atlanta, not so much. I have been a supporter of Chattahoochee Riverkeeper in the past, but now I think it’s time to commercialize the river in the metro area. We can preserve it elsewhere. Maybe we can even commercialize it in a responsible way. May 17, 2017 11:49 AM Log in to Reply Ellynn http://www.seattletimes.com/business/ap-exclusive-the-last-days-of-the-ringling-bros-circus/ I was lucky to grow up about 90 mins. from their museum (hometown of the Bailys) and have the trains pulling the original cars and road cages for the yearly Great Circus parade in Milwaukee as made its rounds through the track systems of Minnesota, Iowa, Wisconsin and northern Illinois a few times past my parents house before the big Milwaukee parade. In the early 90’s in Savannah, I once watched the elephants walk from the tracks, up Louisville Road to the Civic Center. There is nothing that can make you feel so small in the scheme of things as having a elephant walk past a police car and be longer then a Crown Vic. Another piece of childhood, lost. May 17, 2017 12:50 PM Log in to Reply Dave Bearse And no more “Zebra loose on the downtown connector” stories, as I saw on national TV when visiting Mom in California. May 18, 2017 10:25 AM Log in to Reply xdog “No politician in history . . . has been treated worse or more unfairly.” Those poor Coast Guard grads just wanted to start partying with their friends and family and instead they had to listen to that crap. Laughs here (that TR was a bad man): http://juanitajean.com/whine-whine-whine/ May 18, 2017 11:26 AM Log in to Reply Will Durant My first thought when hearing about another White House fence jumper the other day was that it must have been Sean Spicer trying to get out. Now today we see he is being eased out anyway and daily news conferences from this administration are soon to be history. I’m not sure a I’ve ever seen a government official in a more thankless role. May 18, 2017 11:36 AM Log in to Reply Add a Comment Cancel replyYou must be logged in to post a comment.