Morning Reads – Thursday, March 2, 2017

A familiar story: On this date in 1877, Rutherford B. Hayes was declared the winner of the 1876 presidential election by Congress. Samuel J. Tilden, however, had won the popular vote on November 7, 1876.

Peaches

Jimmy Carter

Sweet Tea

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John Vestal
John Vestal

Next Saturday, March 11, will include not one but TWO great events (both in #GA06, fwiw) to benefit the St. Baldrick’s Foundation and the fight against childhood cancers!

Meehan’s in Sandy Springs will host a head-shaving event from noon-4:00pm where long-time friend of PP/GeorgiaPol Rich “Sully” Sullivan will be not only helping to run the show but also getting HIS head shaved for the 9th time to help close the huge research funding gap for childhood cancers!

John Vestal
John Vestal

Then, from 3:00p-6:00p, The Harp Irish Pub in Roswell will be hosting their annual St. Baldrick’s head-shaving event, where Yours Truly will be going under the clippers for the 10th time with my Team Spider Monkey co-conspirators! I’m looking to raise $5K this year, and if TSM can reach our team goal of a bit over $21K, we will hit a total raised (going back to ’08) of $200,000 for the research to not only cure childhood cancers but to also improve the quality of life for the survivors! Hit up one of these great events! And even if you… Read more »

in_atl
in_atl

I wonder if the vegan will get anywhere near the 15-20 years that Joe Torres and Kayla Norton got …

Lea Thrace
Lea Thrace

you seriously comparing the (very stupid and dangerous) actions of a drunk to the willful and intentional racial terrorizing of children with guns?

in_atl
in_atl

Of course. Points of comparison: 1) motivated by ideology (racism the former, veganism the latter) 2) deadly weapons involved (guns the former, automobile the latter, and our experience from any number of police shootings of fleeing drivers shows, automobiles are legally considered deadly weapons) Points of diversion: 1) the former case was a threat of violence, the latter case involved an actual violent act (hitting the chicken truck with the car TWICE meaning that at the very least the second strike was premeditated) 2) the former the convicted was sober, the latter the accused was sober. I would say that… Read more »

bethebalance
bethebalance

Well, the law works in much more specific ways than the conceptual free-form above. E.g., one major point of “diversion” is the involvement of a child, so all sorts of child endangerment issue and laws arise as potentially actionable. Another is the fact that race invokes special protections, and even when there aren’t hate crime laws on the books, special concerns. A prosecutor and judge, then, may not be so concerned with setting an example with a vegan as a racist. Etc.

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

The Washington Post reports Attorney General Sessions spoke twice with Russia’s ambassador to the U.S. when Sessions was a Trump campaign ally during the 2016 race.

”I have been called a surrogate at a time or two in that campaign and I did not have communications with the Russians.”—Nominee Sessions testifying under oath to Congress during the confirmation process.

Five weeks in, and already Trump has picked at least a two that have lied about communications with the Russians. Who could have known?

davidmac
davidmac

Flynn lied to Pence and made him look like an idiot. He was tossed out on his ear.
Sessions lied under oath to the SenJudComm and committed perjury. The JudComm has historically allowed nominees to “correct the record” during their continued testimony, but not 3 weeks after their confirmation. So what happens now?

Noway2016
Noway2016

Nothing. Sessions goes to work. You Libs go into therapy…

davidmac
davidmac

I’m already in therapy, thank you very much. You demean mental illness and do not contribute to the debate.
Noway, I’ve answered your serious questions before, and I do not demean you or your position, though I think it’s untenable. I do not think you are contributing positively to this discussion. I would ask that you engage in some introspection as to whether your goal is to discuss, or merely to hurt.

Thank you.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Your question was what happens now? Well, Sessions ain’t going nowhere. He certainly won’t resign. He’s done nothing wrong. Should he recuse himself for talking to the Russian ambassador in his capacity as a US senator? I don’t think it is necessary. Senators talk to foreign representatives all the time. I think the Dems and the press are desperate to remain relevent and will sit and pick and pick and pick at anything. The DNI Clapper said in December that there ain’t nuthin’ to the Russia crap. Enough already. You folks lost. Regroup, get a new standard bearer and come… Read more »

davidmac
davidmac

>Senators talk to foreign representatives all the time. But The Post’s Adam Entous contacted all 26 members of the Senate Armed Services Committee from 2016 to see whether any lawmakers besides Sessions met with Kislyak in 2016. Of the 20 lawmakers who responded, every senator, including Chairman John McCain (R-Ariz.), said they did not meet with the Russian ambassador last year. The other lawmakers on the panel did not respond as of last night. >He’s done nothing wrong. He, at best, intentionally misled the Senate Judiciary Committee, and did not correct the record. To me, that qualifies as a “wrong.”… Read more »

Noway2016
Noway2016

You are correct in your last sentence. But the ongoing Dem narrative is that the Russians hacked the election and by implication, caused Hillary to lose. The Russians did not hack voting machines. They did not change votes. Now, someone did leak Podesta’s truthful emails that contained info that Podesta and the Dems wish never had been made public. Truthful emails. The substance of which has never been challenged. Did it look bad? Yep. But yall ran a bad candidate and she lost. I will tell you this: I think Bernie would have beaten Donald. I think Biden would have,… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

“They did not change votes.” In the literal sense, this is true. However, Russia’s involvement in the election (via Wikileaks, social media bots, and the promulgation of fake news sites) served to alter opinions regarding Hillary Clinton that influenced the leanings of voters. While they didn’t “change votes,” they did change the ways voters perceived Clinton. “Now, someone did leak Podesta’s truthful emails that contained info that Podesta and the Dems wish never had been made public” Podesta didn’t want them made public because they were his private emails from his personal email account. The guy was a private citizen… Read more »

Noway2016
Noway2016

You and I will always be on differnet sides of this. Let’s just wait and see what happens. My bet is that nothing of a collusion nature will be discovered.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

If nothing collusive happened, why lie about it?

Noway2016
Noway2016

And, and, and, and Drew, you kinda forget to mention, for the umpteenth time, that she got more votes than Trump. Don’t make me have to present both sides of our continuing fights!

Ellynn
Ellynn

The only people calling the Russian hacking a Dem narrative are Trump, people working for Trump or the media outlets that hate the Dems. No one is saying voting machines were rigged and so on… Hillary lost because Hillary didn’t carry the electoral college. Just Like McGovern lost in 1972 by not carrying the electoral college. Yet Watergate still happened. People lied under oath to cover it up and even though it would not alter the election, we still investigated it. (and no I am not saying we are at a Watergate level). If the Russian’s talking to the Trump… Read more »

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

There’s nothing to it since Clapper, a guy that lied under oath to Congress just as Sessions did, says so? Trump’s son past statement that the family’s fortune was unbalanced toward Russia and Trump lying that he would release his tax return to prove that’s no longer true, Trump campaign officials with Russians ties, Russian interference in the election, Trump’s National Security Advisor appointee incompetent or lying about communications with Russians, is followed by the head of Justice Department lying about his communications with the Russians. We can rest assured the GOP Congress will get right on it, after repealing… Read more »

Ellynn
Ellynn

It’s not like Sessions sat on a plane with Trumps wife for 20 minutes discussing his grandchild and golf. He only talked to a possible Russian agents (AKA diplomats of a hostile government) which may or may not be related to his senate job. I mean, under the Trumpters thinking (or yelling into campaign microphones daily) it’s no where near the level of Lynch (or Sessions) possibly colluding with a presidential nominee, maybe being promised to keep her as AG (cause Session never really wanted to be AG…), some how trying to sway the FBI as their technical boss (even… Read more »

Lea Thrace
Lea Thrace

question: Do you take no issue with the fact that Sessions lied under oath?

Ellynn
Ellynn

I take issue with anyone lying under oath. I just didn’t have a parallel for my sarcastic narrative between Lynch and Sessions and being under oath. If you got one for me, I’ll add a chapter two.

(I’m reserving the meaning of ‘is’ for a later and more worthy issue.)

UPDATE Lea, I just noticed you were not a reply to me. I saw you name it below my comment and thought it was… Need. More. Coffee.

Lea Thrace
Lea Thrace

sorry. my comment was meant as a reply to Noway not you. oops. too late to fix

CoastalCat
CoastalCat

I hope Sessions hasn’t moved his sheets and hoods to DC yet…

He must resign. Today is good. He lied under oath to Congress. His word is forever doubted. No investigation under his leadership will be free from partisan taint.
This isn’t even a political issue any longer and shouldn’t be framed as if it were.

Lea Thrace
Lea Thrace

Noway,

question: Do you take any issue with the fact that Sessions lied under oath?

Noway2016
Noway2016

Nope. Using the Hillary defense, ‘he didn’t recall” and besides, there was “no intent” to break the law. This is a non-story.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

So when can I get retractions for all your comments about Clinton being a liar and a crook? If you can get them to me by the end of the week, that’d be great.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Never. She is a gen-u-ine liar and a crook. And if I have to, I’ll resurrect the The Pumkin and say that she will be indicted with in 6 months! How’s that?

Ellynn
Ellynn

If I have to, I will get out the food processor – pumpkin soy lattes… (vegan of course). I have a nice Columbian spiced sugar I can sprinkle over it.

CoastalCat
CoastalCat

Russkies to the left of me. Russkies to the right. Russkies under the bed. Russkies in the kitchen, in the pantry, in the bath tub. Russkies everywhere!

How come every single damn one of Trump’s cabinet, advisers, campaign managers have ties to Russia?
It is past time to get worried.

Noway2016
Noway2016

I’m calling on Sen. McCaskill to resign her senate seat immediately. She’s a blatant liar!
https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2017/03/out-for-blood-dirty-deranged-dems-desperate-for-sessions-destruction

Ellynn
Ellynn

Twitter lies are okay. The President lies on Twitter, so it’s got to be okay right?

Give me a lie under oath and I’ll work with you.

Saltycracker
Saltycracker

Russkie opinion:
I don’t think either party is dumb on what Russia is up to, discredit the U.S.
I think folks in both parties try to figure it out by feeling out Russian contacts or observers.
I think Hillary works everything for personal gain (example, uranium deal).
I think Russia believed, like everyone else did, that Hillary had the election in the bag.
I think Russian hacking was out to undermine her anticipated Presidency.
The media wants it to be Russia helping Trump. Unlikely.
Russia must be enjoying this deflection.

Ellynn
Ellynn
Ellynn
Ellynn

While we all talk about Russian and stuff their is a Capital wide House healthcare bill hunt underway… Even has a Rand Paul subplot

https://www.axios.com/the-hunt-for-the-secret-obamacare-repeal-and-replace-bill-2295114568.html