Morning Reads – January 9, 2017

On this date in 1825, the U.S. House of Representatives elected John Quincy Adams president after no candidate received a majority of electoral votes.

In the legislature

  • House bills passed yesterday. House bills on the floor today.
  • Senate bills on the floor today: HB 43 (Amended budget) SB 48 – Hunting/Fishing and SB 52 – Mental health

Peaches

Jimmy Carter

Sweet Tea

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Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

Truly looking out for the little guy.

in_atl
in_atl

I got nothin’. Or actually I do have something … https://www.gotquestions.org/usury-Bible.html

Saltycracker
Saltycracker

Maybe you’d like sharia compliant lending but I’d think you better have pretty good credit to qualify – a bank better to invest in….

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SmROuXO4lD0

Benevolus
Benevolus

If you have ADHD you might be inclined to refill your prescription every day. Or every hour.

OK, bad joke.

Mike Hassinger
Mike Hassinger

That’s OCD, which SHOULD be called CDO so it’s in alphabetical order.

davidmac
davidmac

But seriously folks, this is not a good thing – it applies to ANY Scheduled drug, not just opioids, because it’s poorly drafted. Also, the bill as written requires counseling to refill the prescription, and that minors can’t get more than a 5 day supply ever, unless it’s acute (broken bone, surgery, etc.) or cancer. Which means taking the kids out of school every week, and taking vacation time from work, for a pediatrician visit. And $20 (or more) copays every 5 days. Hey, protip – copays don’t count toward your deductible! So guess what, you’re paying at least $1400… Read more »

Ellynn
Ellynn

I’m on one of the more restrictive ADHA drugs. I have to call in to a medical specialist (only a psychiatrist in this state can prescribe it) every 28 days to get it, pick up the written prescription that day, no calling it in to a drug store allowed. It has to be filled the same day it’s written. If they don’t have it on hand – you need to do this again the next day with a new written prescription. I have to show ID when I drop it off, I have to show ID and have the back… Read more »

davidmac
davidmac

HHS is having a committee meeting this afternoon. If your senator is on the list – http://www.senate.ga.gov/Committees/en-US/Committee.aspx?Committee=76&Session=25 – call ’em now.

Ellynn
Ellynn

I just did. Thanks.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Serious question: In what way does the ADHD drug make you focus? Say you’ve gone off of it for a bit. How does the drug make you focus better. Can you tell me medically how the drug works on your brain? And do you have a “night and day difference” when you are off of it? Genuinely curious. To be honest, I am ADD but not on any meds. I’m wondering if they’d really help.

davidmac
davidmac

Medically, you have your activity centers and you have your regulation centers. In an AD(H)D mind, the activity centers are moving more quickly than the regulation centers can keep up. So there’s always a distraction, an inattention, that prevents you from completing work.
The medication increases the capability of the regulation centers to take care of the activity centers, and in effect, the stimulant of the medication slows you down by increasing your regular behavior over the hyperactive behavior.

For my kid, there is an absolute difference. It’s easy to tell if he missed his dose.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Thanks, Dave. I never knew how they worked! Yeah, my nephew was/is on Aderall (?) and he swears by it.

Noway2016
Noway2016

David, is this going to be a lifetime thing for him or will a young person eventually “grow out of it?”

Ellynn
Ellynn

Mine is getting worse as I get older. I could make myself focus on a task as a child if it interested me. No so much now.

davidmac
davidmac

Probably he won’t grow out of it. But puberty is strange.

Benevolus
Benevolus

never mind.

Ellynn
Ellynn

With out the meds, I’m working on assort of hyper drive with like a hundred questions and reminders in my mind going one at once. To put this in a Noway reference: Me without the meds; I’m cleaning a gun, but I’m worried over a grip on another gun that needs to be adjusted, oh and the ammo box is empty for the 9mm I might shot next week, but the 8 mm box is too full. I’m not cleaning the 9 or the 8 till the weekend, oh look at the cute bird out the window, I should shoot… Read more »

Noway2016
Noway2016

Love the Noway example!! Mine has surely gotten worse as I have gotten older. Your examples sound an awful lot like mine, too. You’ve given me a good reason to ask the doc for a scrip…

Ellynn
Ellynn

No doc worth his salt will not just give you a scrip. He’s going to have you tested by a trained psychologist doing a whole sort of IQ like tests first.

Benevolus
Benevolus

Noway would fail an IQ test. 🙂

Noway2016
Noway2016

LOL! And I was wondering how long I needed to study for an upcoming urine test. Dang…

Saltycracker
Saltycracker

ADHD drugs are used irresponsibly, emergencies increasing, but when used responsibly and really needed the 5 day refill requirement is a disaster. The legislators must get back to the table.

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

“It’s gotten to a point where it’s not even being reported. And in many cases the very, very dishonest press doesn’t want to report it. They have their reasons and you understand that.”—Cap’n Tinyhands declaring the news media isn’t reporting acts of terrorism. The terrorism is in Europe, natch, since the Great Trumpkin has us safe and sound despite so-called US judges. Is the non-reporting an alternative fact, or reverse fake news by the media? Spicer parroting Trump complaining of how terrible and unfair it was that Nordstrom is discontinuing Ivanka’s fashions….The GOP is indeed fast-acting—it took only three weeks… Read more »

The Eiger
The Eiger

Chris Carr got his first big win as AG. $40 million for Georgia consumers who were being screwed.

“ATLANTA, GA – Attorney General Chris Carr today announced that the Office of the Attorney General’s multi-year legal battle against payday lenders Western Sky Financial, LLC, CashCall, Inc. and related entities has concluded in a settlement providing over $40 million in monetary relief to Georgia consumers.”

http://law.ga.gov/press-releases/2017-02-08/attorney-general-chris-carr-announces-40-million-plus-settlement-online

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

Multi-year legal battle means this was a Sam Olens win.

The Eiger
The Eiger

You are right about Sam. Most of the credit should go to the attorneys that actually tried the case.

“The Office of the Attorney General’s legal team was led by Counsel for Legal Policy Timothy Butler and Assistant Attorneys General Charlene Swartz, Monica Sullivan and Andrew Chesser.”

I know one of those folks really well.

Benevolus
Benevolus

Very curious about that Yemen raid. I hope we get some information about how that was planned and green-lighted. I don’t think the national security team was even in place yet, so who was advising the Prez on this? The intel was likely not as good as we had hoped, but why? And why now and not, say, next month?

gcp
gcp

Alabama Governor appoints current Alabama AG, Luther Strange, to replace Sessions in the senate.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/alabama-attorney-general-luther-strange-to-replace-jeff-sessions-in-the-senate-234836

Ellynn
Ellynn

The same AG who is investigating said governor…

gcp
gcp

Correct, but will be interesting to see who replaces Strange as Alabama AG. Also, it does not stop possible impeachment of the gov.

chefdavid
chefdavid

SB 48 Passes in the Senate. I guess this means hunting licenses and fishing licenses will go up. This will make the tax increase more palpable for legislators when they go back home from Atlanta.

Ellynn
Ellynn
CoastalCat
CoastalCat

Sarah Palin as ambassador to Canada-hot rumor from up north.

That’ll teach them to steal our hockey teams.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Trump loses court ruling. Now what?

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

1) Seek an en banc hearing in front of an 11-judge panel of 9th Circuit judges or 2) Appeal to SCOTUS.

SCOTUS is his best chance, but it’s a steep steep battle. For one, it’s a 4-4 split. For two, I don’t think anyone other than Thomas or Alito is down to write the next Korematsu.

Sally Forth
Sally Forth

Funny you should mention the human trafficking industry du jour. Yep, importing immigrants and refugees IS big business in the US – not just some little charitable do-gooder activity. Private corporations hire tens of thousands of employees and the federal government pays overhead and staffing in two separate federal agencies to funnel taxpayer money to private corporations, the UN, and all these newcomers. Get the popcorn and settle in to read a bit of research I’ve spent my spare time with, while recovering from the Falcons’ loss.. Over $2 billion a year in taxpayer money alone goes into this huge… Read more »

Ellynn
Ellynn

No I’m not mad, I’m sadden. I have donated to many different Catholic organization involved in refugee and orphan relocation/placement, done volunteer work for them and my church growing up helped relocate almost 100 political refugees out of Vietnam, Laos, Iran, the U.S.S.R. and Poland in just my childhood. They still place middle eastern refugees, also cases from Central America and China. They raise far more in direct donations – both monetary and physical – then they do from direct government funds for temporary room and board (normally less then a 18 months), childcare, and basic education skills in English… Read more »

Benevolus
Benevolus

Can I have the executive summary? I’m not sure about what your beef actually is. Is it the taxpayer money spent? Is it that these immigrants are supposed to be voters? Is it charity fraud?
If you were going to fix whatever this mess is what what be your priority list?

bethebalance
bethebalance

Sally, it looks like you’ve done your homework on the budget/policy side, but you have severe misconceptions about realities. I’m curious- have you ever worked in, or with, any of the refugee programs? If you had firsthand knowledge, it would bring the necessary balance to your policy discussion.

Sally Forth
Sally Forth

btb, yes, I have indeed worked as a volunteer with many refugees, even to the point of bringing a Somali family of four into a family member’s home, where they stayed for several days until the agency could get them all signed up on government programs and moved into public housing. Boy, was that a rude awakening! They stood up on furniture, squatted on sofas and chairs instead of sitting. They spoke no English, so communicating was very difficult. They were afraid of the commode, didn’t know how to use the bathroom. They ate with their hands and did nothing… Read more »

Ellynn
Ellynn

Actually, based on census and other records, my Prussian/German ancestors didn’t assimilate into American life as you would think. My great, great grandmother and her brother escaped with literally their cloths on their backs, some curried sausage, a little money from a local convent and an address for a 2nd cousin in Buffalo to help them find their older sister’s family in Wisconsin. They spoke no English and traveled through French Canada most of the way because it was safer for Catholics then traveling through parts of America at the time. It took 7 months and the brother lost fingers… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Having lived in Minneapolis, home to the largest Somali refugee community in the US, I had the completely opposite experience. Of the hundreds of folks I met they were incredibly kind, hard-working, entrepreneurial, and cared deeply about their kids, their communities in the US, and their families back home. That’s the case almost everywhere. According to a GPB story this morning, after 180 days 91% of the refugees resettled in Clarkston are self-sufficient. While I’m in no way doubting your anecdote, these were folks who’d more than likely spent years in refugee camps (which don’t have indoor plumbing, eating utensils,… Read more »

gcp
gcp

“According to a GPB story this morning, after 180 days 91% of the refugees resettled in Clarkston are self-sufficient.”

You need to define “self-sufficient.”
If Somalis have children born in this country those kids are most likely on Medicaid/PeachCare.

Sally Forth
Sally Forth

Right, gcp, plus the parents themselves are most likely on Medicaid and other government programs. Somewhere in all that deluge of information I read this past week there are statistics on use of welfare programs by refugees, and I believe those on Medicaid was seventy-six percent. Drew, you and I don’t see eye to eye on much of anything, and that apparently holds true here also. It seems you find it unthinkable that American citizens might have what Ayn Rand called “rational self interest.” Only refugees and foreign nationals are entitled to that in your book. I didn’t “mean they… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Sally, I’ll trust my own experience living adjacent to a Somali neighborhood for 3 years over unnamed “TV documentaries,” if you’d like to recommend some I’m happy to watch them. Speaking of not naming things, I’d also love to see your source on welfare usage by refugees, because that runs counter to the research done by the Cato Institute, which found that non-citizens (a group that admittedly includes both immigrants and refugees) utilize public benefit programs at a lower rate than US citizens.* To your philosophical point: While you look to Ayn Rand’s concept of rational self interest, a concept… Read more »