Morning Reads — December 12

Happy Monday, everyone! I erected a 9ft inflatable minion yesterday to irritate my insufferable neighbors. T’is the season!

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Noway2016
Noway2016

In an effort to salvage a damaged brand, 538 Guru Nate Silver sputters that the midwest was already going red. Lol! Nice call! There are some chicken fights in Rabun County whose winners you may want to predict!

Saltycracker
Saltycracker

The Post may have had Murica’s (sp) di-version on the hacking, Forbes also had a version worth reading:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/paulroderickgregory/2016/12/11/the-battle-over-russian-hacking-is-over-the-legitimacy-of-the-trump-presidency/#6fa49cbe6ed7

Will Durant
Will Durant

I am in agreement with this article’s premise that an investigation devolving into a standard partisan battle will end with the normal non-results. However I am greatly disturbed that the official line coming from Trump’s camp is: “These are the same people that said Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction…The election ended a long time ago in one of the biggest Electoral College victories in history. It’s now time to move on and ‘Make America Great Again.” While the CIA had its issues with a lack of quality intelligence on Iraq the revelations last year finally bore out how… Read more »

CoastalCat
CoastalCat

Trump has no concept of ‘governing’ just as he has no concept of ‘business’. He has flash and dazzle and a running line of crap to feed his cult.
Waiting on him to turn presidential will be a long, long wait.

The Eiger
The Eiger

Yeah, he will never be presidential, but we all know that Pence is really running the show so that makes me feel good. But you just keep on keeping on with the Trump derangement syndrome.

Lea Thrace
Lea Thrace

I know he (Trump) wasnt your guy but I find it hard to believe that you are really okay with the presidency being reduced to puppetry. Doesnt that rub you completely the wrong way?

It’s one thing when we find this out after the fact (ala Reagan or GWB) but knowing this upfront and being not just okay but happy about it is kind of appalling to me.

The Eiger
The Eiger

Who said I was happy he won? Of course it doesn’t make me happy to think that the presidency is being reduced to puppetry. But as a student of history I know that there have been many times in our history where presidents were painted as dumb or not capable of the job. Of course it pisses me off that I know he will have another “grab her by the you know what’ moment soon (probably before he’s sworn in). He is the leader of my team and our country now. So it is what it is. I’m also okay… Read more »

Lea Thrace
Lea Thrace

Whoa. I didnt say you were happy. I was just surprised by your ability to be on Team Trump given your views pre election. But you have laid out how you are able to rationalize it so no big deal. I just was looking for insight into how you are dealing with it.

I do have an issue with anyone’s political goals/aspirations being “pissing off liberals” (or pissing off conservatives if thats your preferred bent). That automatically makes what should be a collaborative effort (running a government) adversarial. But meh. If that’s your thing, go for it.

The Eiger
The Eiger

I know how politics works. Get on board and try to get things done (aka piss liberals off) or shut the hell up. That’s pretty much how it works. The democrats really had a “collaborative effort” when they forced Obamacare care through. And I hope republicans use the same collaborative effort when they repeal and replace it with something that will work. What goes around comes around. Especially in politics. I still don’t like the guy and would have picked 16 other people before him. But I’m fine having Pence as the most conservative president this country has ever had.… Read more »

David C
David C

Pissing off liberals and getting things done are frequently, almost exclusively, at cross purposes. And if Republicans had been less focused on ‘pissing off liberals’ and provided bipartisan cover, you might never have had Obamacare at all because that was what plenty of the Senate Dem Caucus was interested in for all of 2009, and the full 60 only got on board when it was clear that wasn’t going to happen. If the GOP had given them anything to grab on to, Baucus, Nelson, Lieberman and co. would have jumped ship.

The Eiger
The Eiger

Sure. Everything is bipartisan with you guys when you have just lost everything. Take a breather on the sidelines for a while. We will take care of things and piss you off in the process. 🙂

Noway2016
Noway2016

I like this “new” Eiger! Damnnnn….Bart and I don’t have to do ALL the heavy lifting any more!!

The Eiger
The Eiger

This isn’t a new me. This is who I’ve always been. You just misunderstood my hatred for trump during the campaign as a dislike of republicans in general. I’m a very conservative person and simply hated trump because I thought he was ruining our chances of winning.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Will, can you really be that surprised by the response from Trump Tower? He’s coming into office with the highest unfavorables of any President-Elect in modern history. He just won an election in which he lost the popular vote by nearly 3 million votes. This is an administration with a very weak mandate (if it even has one in the first place). A Congressional investigation into Russian influence does not have a “good outcome” for the Trump Administration. If the CIA, NSA, etc. were right and there was Russian meddling in our election, then Trump loses whatever post-election mandate he… Read more »

gcp
gcp

Carousel of contestants continues for SOS. Now we have Rex Tillerson as leading contender? Certainly would be an interesting pick.

Others have serious flaws. Petraeus has legal and ethical problems, Romney has credibility issues, Giuliani too many foreign business contacts, Newtie maybe does not want it or something and Bolton perhaps is too strident.

Will Durant
Will Durant

I find that a Tillerson appointment as our top statesman has some serious flaws as well. Primarily with perception. We already have accusations if not pure facts that big oil has dictated much of our foreign policy in the past. Deposing a democratically elected leader in Iran to put a monarch/dictator with the Shah on behalf of big oil started that ball rolling way back when. Our coddling of the Saudis through the years regardless of their back channel terrorism support has continued that tradition. Even to the point of fighting wars on their behalf. Now we go with a… Read more »

gcp
gcp

Tillerson’s ties to Russia would make for a close confirmation vote but ultimately he would be confirmed. Another one under consideration is James Stavridis but he might be too close to Hilly. Maybe best to say that all are flawed.

David C
David C

Stephen Hadley or Corker would get confirmed 95-0. Tillerson has both a committee problem and a full Senate problem. Foreign Relations Committee is 10-9: Lose a Republican there and he’s done in committee, and Paul, Flake, and Rubio could be wild cards on varying degrees. (Dems are all solid blue staters, so none of them would flip. Lose that vote, and the nomination is probably over. If they push forward anyway, they can only stomach 3 GOP defections if the Dems don’t bite. McCain + Graham + one other GOP, and it fails. With the stench of Putin all over… Read more »

gcp
gcp

Committee recommendation is not binding on the senate. If it’s a 50/50 tie in the full senate Pence is the tiebreaker.

David C
David C

True, but no nominee who failed in committee has won Senate approval since 1945. And that’s why I said they need McCain + Graham + one more. 48 Dems + 3 Rs = 51 And if he failed in committee and they went forward anyway, well there’s your extra R to go with McCain/Graham.

gcp
gcp

If he has a solid performance in the hearings and shows good knowledge on foreign policy he gets the job.

Will Durant
Will Durant

Best comment I’ve seen on the revelation of Tillerson as the nominee:
“It isn’t his ties to Putin that bother me so much as his ties to Exxon-Mobil.”

NoParty4Me
NoParty4Me

Well, of course Republicans don’t want an investigation into Russian hacking. It would most likely reveal their Party and others in government did not have secure email servers. Bwahahaha.

The Eiger
The Eiger

If those republicans were knowingly sending emails that had classified data in it they should go to jail.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Lololol! Just like Hilly!

Saltycracker
Saltycracker

Constant Trump bashing, Jawja and Murica are ignorant, Politico on bad capitalism ? For someone who portrays themselves as a GOP leader, if one can’t find an article to promote the philosophy or have an idea with a few positives over perceived warts, I’d say, “you’re fired”.

xdog
xdog

Some of us prefer propaganda-free postings.

Ellynn
Ellynn

I enjoyed reading the Polticio piece yesterday. However the Ivory tower author overlooked other writers and poets of the Russian Neoclassical era which were inspired by both the French and American revolutions, all of which influence mid 19th century eastern Europe. It also failed to mention the effect of the Prussian and Crimea wars and the political and finical havoc it had on minor Russian duchies. This made Chernyshevsky’s poorly thought out novel an idealistic escape for the minor aristocrats and their 4th and 5th sons which formed the base of the socialist movement of the era.

CoastalCat
CoastalCat

McConnell should immediately resign. His wife should not accept her Cabinet appointment. Why reward Russian hackers and their enablers with high government posts?

The Eiger
The Eiger

What? McConnell’s wife, a former cabinet official, is a Russian hacker? You be trippin?

CoastalCat
CoastalCat

Laugh away. These are dark days for the US.

Noway2016
Noway2016

One word for you: Lithium.

Ellynn
Ellynn

I agree, Lithium would work great here. The question is how do we make sure Trump has his daily dose. (sarc)

MattMD_actual
MattMD_actual

Lithium is used mostly to treat bipolar disorder and in conjunction with antidepressants (to increase their efficacy) to treat major depression disorder.

If someone is upset about Trump being president I’d recommend a stiff drink (if you’re not an alcoholic) or a joint.

CoastalCat
CoastalCat

Trump: Making day drinking acceptable.

NoParty4Me
NoParty4Me

Vodka and caviar, of course

The Eiger
The Eiger

When has day drinking not been acceptable? There is always a place for happy lunch.

MattMD_actual
MattMD_actual

How can inanimate objects be “racist”? Wouldn’t it be more accurate to call them offensive?

Saltycracker
Saltycracker

Offensively tasteless was once a home serving syrup other than Aunt Jemima’s.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Let’s see…Jill-ary Stein’s recount efforts flopped! “OMG” shriek Hilly supporters, “What can we do now…?” Say the Russians delivered the election to Trump?!?!?! Yeahhhhhh…. So, to summarize, Podesta’s emails were leaked by Wikileaks and show embarrassing content that has not been denied. Media in the tank for Hilly. Confirmed what everyone always suspected. Everything that could be done to stop him was tried. And failed miserably. Can you say “Electoral College blowout”? Ok, so the Russians supposedly hacked Podesta but not Hilly’s server? Yeah, that’s believable. The Libs will do anything, anything to de-legitimize Trump, anything but admit they had… Read more »

bethebalance
bethebalance

Hillary’s server was at least more secure than the OPM server. or several Sec’y of State servers…
she may very well have been afraid that Russians intended to hack into wherever she had emails stored.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Good point, btb. Anyone else noticing ol’ Noway’s posts are becoming increasingly paranoid an unhinged? Sad!

Noway2016
Noway2016

If I voluntarily committed myself eould you and Ellynn come and visit?!?!?! Lol!