Morning Reads — October 24

Happy Monday, everyone! Yesterday, the Young Democrats of Atlanta beat the Atlanta Young Republicans in a game of kickball at Piedmont Park. I encouraged my teammates to invoke the spirit of Reagan to win, but we still lost. There’s so much symbolism in there.

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gcp
gcp

After watching the senate debate it’s obvious Barksdale is the weakest dem state wide candidate in recent times. The questioners asked Isakson about “groping” and “rigged elections” while Barksdale asked about sexual harassment complaints against Trumpet. Barksdale also tried to tie Isakson to a 1968 discrimination suit which was filed against Isakson’s father. Buckley hit Isakson for his bad voting record. Overall, Buckley won the debate but Isakson did ok.

David C
David C

The thing about state / local debates is that (unlike POTUS ones) nobody watches them live. So the only thing you can really do is lose them. You do that by saying something damaging that can then become a TV ad or news story (like Kelly Ayotte in New Hampshire and the “Sure, Trump’s a role model”gaffe.) Judging by press reaction, nobody won and nobody lost this weekend.

augusta52
augusta52

Buckley might be viewed as a semi-serious candidate if he had ads up on network television…which of course he doesn’t. Does he really think he is going to do better than the standard 2-3 percent Libertarian showing by going to forums and little-watched TV debates? You know, the old tree in the forest analogy….

gcp
gcp

Libertarians don’t have the money to do tv ads but I have heard Buckley do radio interviews. I expect him to do a little better than 2-3 %, but not by much, maybe 4 – 5%.

Noway2016
Noway2016

I’m sitting here with other “deplorables ” getting ready to vote. Line is at least 30 minutes. In this state Hillary is effing toast! Life is good!

The Eiger
The Eiger

I hope someone keeps you away from sharp objects on election night.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Maybe if Georgia mattered to the overall outcome. Trump needs to run the table of battleground states AND pick off a state like PA or VA that is leaning Clinton. Clinton only needs Georgia as part of her “embarrass Trump by racking up 350+ electoral votes and making him a bigger loser than McCain or Romney” strategy.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Just as a way of backing my taunting up with actual numbers…. Based on RCP’s electoral map, 272 electoral votes are already “lean Clinton.” Even if Trump runs the table of toss-ups, he loses. Here are RCP’s “toss-ups” at the moment in order of electoral votes with 538’s polls-only forecast for Trump’a chance of winning that state Texas (38) – 81.3% chance Florida (29) – 26.0% Ohio (18) – 40.2% Georgia (16) – 70.9% North Carolina (15) – 29.4% Arizona (11) – 45.1% Minnesota (10) – 12.4% Iowa (6) – 45.8% Nevada (6) – 27.6% ME-2 (1) – 48.2% As… Read more »

The Eiger
The Eiger

It’s pretty clear that Clinton has moved from a presidential campaign to a campaign to gain the majority in the senate and possibly the house. She has already won the race for the White House and now she is trying to win the senate too. That is why she is now sending people and money to MO , AZ and IN. Roy Blunt will be the biggest surprise loss of the night.

bethebalance
bethebalance

true, we are all deplorable somehow.
however, i do not share such optimism of life.

augusta52
augusta52

Yes,. it looks like Clinton will hold the 18 states and DC (242 combined electoral votes) that have voted Democratic in the last 6 presidential elections (1992-2012). From there it is easy just to get a barebones victory—Florida (29 electoral votes) or combination of North Carolina (15) and Virginia (13)—and again that is just a barebones victory. for her. While Trump may pick off Iowa and Ohio (which backed Obama last time), she may offset that by gaining Arizona and North Carolina. Trump’s venture into Virginia is folly—he’ll probably lose Northern Virginia by over 200,000 votes and certainly won’t carry… Read more »

Ellynn
Ellynn

Good run down on Mathew communication issues in the Savannah/Chatham areas.

http://savannahnow.com/hurricane-guide-news/2016-10-23/hurricane-matthew-response-created-mixed-messages

Benevolus
Benevolus

Pictures of your ballot should be prohibited. It is an invitation for fraud. And there is no compelling reason to have one.

Having said that, it’s pretty hard to enforce. But like so many other laws (speeding, having bolt cutters in your car) it should be an available charge if other wrongdoing is detected. In other words, if voter fraud is detected and it turns out that a voter taking a picture of their ballot (in order to get paid, for example) it should be a chargeable offense.

bethebalance
bethebalance

i still don’t see where the fraud would come in. pls expound.

Benevolus
Benevolus

The main thing that keeps people from paying others to vote a certain way is that they can’t ever be sure that they did vote that way. But if you can take a picture of your cast ballot, it’s like a receipt. Cha ching!

bethebalance
bethebalance

sure, i see the open door there, but it doesn’t seem very convincing to me. probly anything in the universe could be the subject of a fraud somehow. weighing it against 1st amendment rights, not only of expression, but of association- with political party- and possibly the benefits of encouraging voting, at first blush i like the selfies. if anyone somehow had the spare time and money to challenge it- if it was their pet cause- these bans would probly be shot down in due time. not that i can claim any constitutional law issue on the subject. researching that… Read more »

davidmac
davidmac

And in fact, the 1CA shot down NH’s ban this year. GA’s ban probably wouldn’t survive a court challenge either.

bethebalance
bethebalance

‘appreciate the info.

davidmac
davidmac

Not sure where you get that it’s an invitation for fraud. It’s maybe peer pressure/intimidation.
That said, I can just as easily take a #ballotselfie of the sample ballot I can print from the Georgia SOS’s office, indicate my votes, and publish that.
It’s not a voting instrument, it says “SAMPLE” all over it, but it sends the same message.

Noway2016
Lea Thrace
Lea Thrace

the fact that you cant seem to possibly understand why its in poor taste to use a phrase like that for a black man in America tells me a lot about you.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Gotta love the Perpetual Victim.

Lea Thrace
Lea Thrace

Would you call those of Jewish heritage who get offended at holocaust jokes or a comment about gassing, perpetual victims?

Noway2016
Noway2016

Pick your group who’s been done wrong, Lea. Why don’t you boycott and get Obama to rename the Bureau of Indian Affairs?! Hmmmm?! How about the Irish Immigrants of the mid 1800’s?! Point is: Folks need to move on and make a successful life in the present. Obsessing about past injustices is mental poison.

bethebalance
bethebalance

for things to move forward truly peacefully, past injustices require an equal and opposite dose of justice in order to achieve justice that is balance. if someone is saying they need to have a conversation, but you don’t think the conversation is necessary, guess what the right thing to do is.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Just to fact check, the use of “Indian” is conflicited as many native groups use the term themselves. For example, Indian Country Today, the website and news organization. So that boycott would be pretty unsuccesssful.

Lea Thrace
Lea Thrace

answer the question i asked please.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Bad things have happened to every group throughout history. No amount of hand wringing/continued lamenting can change it or bring those victimized/aggrieved back. But the grievance industry is making huge money for those in charge of it. Quit picking the scabs. Isn’t “Success the Greatest Revenge?” I’ll say again: “Point is: Folks need to move on and make a successful life in the present. Obsessing about past injustices is mental poison.” You have my answer.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Or, simpler solution, don’t make allusions to lynching when talking about a black head football coach

Noway2016
Noway2016

Or maybe, Andrew, not taking his comment in the “lynching” context, cause it shore as hell wasn’t meant in that way! Sheeeeeeeeesh1

bethebalance
bethebalance

i don’t think he meant lynching directly either. but he did make a comment about a hanging to an individual who is rightfully sensitive to such jokes and references abt hanging. it’s like the “eggshell” concept in torts- the damage you cause upon an individual is still your fault, even if it was compounded by their particular weaknesses. e.g., you could cause a death by a paper cut to someone with blood clotting problems. analogously, no word, however small, is without consequence, and the smart – and daresay compassionate- person proceeds through life knowing that there are elderly, disabled, young,… Read more »

drjay
drjay

it’s kinda one of those issues…south park did one of their typical over the top episodes about just such a thing…the south park city flag had an image of a lynching and chef wants it changed…the kids end up having a debate about whether to change the flag or not and they don’t even realize the racial angle and present a case against the flag based on killing/capital punishment being wrong…so on the one hand (i hope) the sports guy wasn’t even thinking about the fact that the coach is black and was just trying to make an analogy that… Read more »

Ellynn
Ellynn

So we agree; the whole Confederate grievance industry thing (a group who’s been done wrong), that no amount of continued lamenting can change – can be dismissed. Cause as you said, folks need to move on, make a successful life, stop obsessing about past injustices, mental poison, blah blah blah.

You did say “Pick your group who’s been done wrong…”

Ellynn
Ellynn

And before I start getting a whole load of “Your in the South now” type replies and “Delta has flights every day” quips, it is called satire, with a dose of mirrored irony.

bethebalance
bethebalance

yeah, it’s real easy to say “get over it” if you’re not still trapped underneath it.
some things heal slowly, and as i mentioned, justice is in the form of equal and opposite reactions. centuries of repression means could mean potentially centuries of remedy. i’d get used to that.

Lea Thrace
Lea Thrace

its really a simple yes or no question…