Morning Reads for Tuesday, August 9

Good morning! And thanks to Will for covering last Tuesday’s reads.

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xdog
xdog

Thanks for the King of Pops read. I want to work the phrase “vertically integrated lolly-maker” into conversation soon.

Lea Thrace
Lea Thrace

That Venn diagram overlap consists of you and I Teri. And I am damn proud of that fact!

Ellynn
Ellynn

I could be in that Venn. Can we go old school too… Picture Lin doing Mercer’s ‘The Phony King of England’ (I’m a Robin Hood ‘ lover) ‘Once Upon a Dream’, ‘Bippity Boppity Boo’, and if we really want to go deep, “Johnny Fedora and Alice Blue Bonnet”. I can picture it how… The Rock doing ‘I’m Late”.

Lea Thrace
Lea Thrace

One of us! One of us!

Ellynn
Ellynn

I know! a beat box vocal update of Peter and the Wolf.

Ellynn
Ellynn
Bart
Bart

Says the ’50 former national security officials’ who nobody outside of a small circle in DC have ever heard of. Did they gather in Kennebunkport to conjure up this publicity stunt right after drawing straws to see which nobody would step forward to represent the NeverTrumpers? Too bad for short straw drawee Evan McMullin (https://www.evanmcmullin.com/). I guess David French wasn’t obscure enough.

Lea Thrace
Lea Thrace

Say you disagree with what they assert but to claim that no one has heard of people like Ridge and Chertoff outside of DC is more than a bit disingenuous. Particularly since the topic at hand was national security. Those are pretty big names in the national security realm.

davidmac
davidmac

Chertoff, Ridge, and Negroponte would like a word with you. We’ve definitely heard of them.

The Eiger
The Eiger

Who cares if Joe on the street has heard of these guys. They are experts in their field.

I guess we shouldn’t care what John Gagliardi (489 wins), Eddie Robinson (408 wins), Scobey Warner (336 wins), Ken Sparks (334) or Larry Kehres (332) have to say about coaching football becasue they aren’t household names like Paterno, Bowden and Bryant.

Bart
Bart

Ok, so y’all picked the 2 or 3 names that are maybe recognizable to a few outside DC. But those are the same ‘experts’ who gave us Iraq, slow Katrina response and the multi-colored terror warning chart. Kind of like Romney offering ‘expert’ advice on how to run a presidential campaign.

The Eiger
The Eiger

15 years of democrat talking points are coming straight our of your mouth right now. That’s what blind loyalty to party gets you.

Ellynn
Ellynn

What I find unsettling is I seem to know as much if not more about basic national security, geo-political history, current headline making events, basic civics, the Constitution, freshman economic theory, funding streams of basic federal budgeting, and the use of soft and hard power (both domestically and international) then Trump appears to have shown us publicly in the last 13 months – and I can assure you, not a single person outside of my mother would ever vote for me to become leader of the largest standing army in the world or have access to state secrets and nuclear… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Just because you haven’t heard of them doesn’t make them unqualified. They make a cogent argument supported by their experience actually doing things in the foreign policy and national security world. If a pro skateboarder said “hey, you probably shouldn’t skate down this 50 foot ramp with no helmet on.” Would you dismiss his opinion because “nobody outside a small circle in [wherever pro skateboarders congregate]” has ever head of him? The number of people engaging in anti-intellectual, anti-institutional, anti-fact rhetoric in this campaign is staggering. These are 50 people with decades upon decades of real world experience. Trump’s foreign… Read more »

Bart
Bart

I didn’t say that because nobody heard of them it makes them unqualified. What I am saying is because nobody has ever heard of them, most folks won’t care. They need a catchy moniker like the ‘Gang of 50′ or ’50 Wannabes’.

But it would be easy to question their collective wisdom in ignoring all the instances where Trump’s opponent has failed leading to actual consequences. Seems the establishment types are syncing up against the outsider, party affiliation be damned!

The Eiger
The Eiger

“Seems the establishment types are syncing up against the outsider, party affiliation be damned!” No we aren’t. We see him for what he really is. A damn racist, misogynist democrat. The first line of his economic plan released yesterday was “ensuring the wealthy pay their fair share.” Where have we heard that? A Bernie rally? Come on Bart. Other than “he isn’t Hillary” why should anyone who is a Republican vote for this charlatan. I’ll take my chances and beat Hillary in 2020. I haven’t completely lost my morals and beliefs and that’s why I refuse to vote for the… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

He eats pizza with a fork and knife, too. This man is more out of touch with real America than Romney ever was.

Can’t wait to see him bust out the finest silverware for his inevitable photo op at the Varsity.

The Eiger
The Eiger

I guess we should give him a pass. It’s hard to pick up your fried chicken and pizza when you have such small hands and tiny Vienna sausage fingers.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Seems like the establishment types are syncing up against the outsider, party affiliation be damned. Seems like the rational adults in the room are recognizing that competent leadership is more important than blind partisanship. To-may-toe, to-mah-toe. So your criticism is not the actual substance of their argument, but the fact that some random mouthbreather in Puxatawny won’t be able to recognize them? Duly noted. By the by, when you say Clinton failed “leading to actual consequences,” I assume you mean Benghazi. Don’t really think it’s the best look to say “people aren’t going to give much creedance to 50 randos… Read more »

Davo65
Davo65

Yep…the system is rigged.

LOL

bethebalance
bethebalance

the system being “rigged” is another tag line stolen from bernie.
along with having top earners paying their fair share.
sure, drumpf is def lying to so many ppl abt his true colors, but perhaps not abt those policies. or perhaps he is lying abt those, too- lying to everybody, and just stealing bernie’s lines to trick them into voting for him bc they are so “disaffected”

davidmac
davidmac

Bart, I think you may want to review “The First Law of Holes.”

augusta52
augusta52

With regard to the “mortal” sin of underage drinking, I can’t help but note the irony that one of the most liberal counties in Georgia, (certainly the most liberal white-majority county in the state) has a police force that would make old Atilla blush….add to the irony the push to raise the drinking age from 18 to 21 came under the so-called “states rights” president, Ronald Reagan. You might have called it blackmail, as in “your state doesn’t have to raise the drinking age to 21, but the same time, we Feds don’t have to send you some of your… Read more »

Benevolus
Benevolus

Just heard on MSNBC that Clinton is expanding staff in Georgia. I guess we might find out what it’s like to be in a swing state!

Indypendant
Indypendant

Yard signs, bumperstickers, and buttons?

Oh my!

Ellynn
Ellynn

They are already here. More like Ads, campaign stops and voter registration drives.

gcp
gcp

Twelve UGA student/athletes or former student/athletes and one UGA coach on the US Olympic team. Very impressive.

davidmac
davidmac

“If she gets to pick her judges,” Trump said, “nothing you can do, folks. Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is.”

Did Trump just propose assassination as an option under a Clinton presidency? Or, if not assassination, armed insurrection?

Lea Thrace
Lea Thrace

sadly, you know that his supporters will YET AGAIN defend the indefensible.

davidmac
davidmac

Rep. Price’s office, staffer “Devin”, said that Price would not stand by Trump’s statements. I told him that Rep. Price needs to disavow Trump today. He’d “pass it along.”

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Trump needs a drummer to do rim shots so we can tell when he’s joking about inviting Russians to hack the State Department or suggesting the assassination of Hillary Clinton.

Someone should have Gabby Giffords explain to him what happens when a politician does the ol’ “wink, wink, nudge, nudge” to crazy people.

xdog
xdog

Trump’s “a pathetic coward who can’t handle the fact that he’s losing to a girl.”

That’s just perfect. Nobody sticks in the knife and gives it a good twist better than Warren.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

I’m sure he’ll call her Pocahantas or something and think he’s evened the score.

Bart
Bart

Unbelievable. You people really need to get a grip. He was obviously talking about protests, no different than Hillary and the dems encouraging their leftists groups to agitate and disrupt events every time they come up with some BS mis-interpretation of a Trump statement.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

For someone whose words are so frequently “misconstrued” (e.g., Mexicans are rapists, that federal judge is incapable of doing his job because he’s Mexican, ban all Muslims from the US, let me make fun of this handicapped guy for a minute… *gasping for air*, let me disrespect this Purple Heart for a minute, John McCain isn’t a hero, the Khan family are pro-Sharia plants from the Clinton campaign, Russia should hack the State Department… Really, I could do this all night) you would think he’d exert a modicum of effort towards communicating more clearly. After all, that’s what a sane… Read more »

The Eiger
The Eiger

Face …. Palm…..

Your continued defense of his dumb remarks makes me want to cry for you. You should have just kept your mouth shut on this one. There is nothing to defend. He clearly was talking about shooting a sitting president. If you can’t see that then you are completely blinded with partisanship.

Bart
Bart

You really think Donald Trump was calling for the assassination of his opponent? Face….Palm….I give up.

Just imagine the firestorm if he had the father of a mass murderer sitting behind him yesterday when he made the remark.

The Eiger
The Eiger

I think Trump wasn’t thinking as usual and that is the damn problem. You are right about having a mass murder’s father sitting right behind Hillary, but instead of staying on message and letting the news media go after Hillary he says this. I’m not the only one who believes he meant to kill a sitting president when he said what he said. You are the one with blinders on and are in the minority on this one. You are like a lost puppy. I’m trying to bring you home before you get run over in the street by Trump.… Read more »

Ellynn
Ellynn

Some who follow Trump will believe he’s calling for her death. If you haven’t looked around the internet or Facebook lately, they already have meme with firing squads, “Hillary” gun season and “Her blood in exchange for the 4 hero of she killed herself”. AND that was before yesterday.

If I had said what he said, I would be talking to the secret service right now. But he’s Trump so I guess it makes it alright.

Bart
Bart

Secret Svc – Is this Ellyn? Yes, OK. Did you mean to imply that 2nd amendment supporters should assassinate Hillary Clinton?
Ellyn – No, of course not, how ridiculous.
Secret Svc – We apologize for having to ask, but MSNBC felt you were calling for the assassination of HRC. Good day to you, we have a few more calls to make.

Ellynn
Ellynn

They don’t call you. And the chats are a lot longer.

Not to mention I read it first on the BBC yesterday. So I guess I should expect a call from MI-6 too.

Indypendant
Indypendant

Ring Ring

Bart: Hello?

CNN: Bart this is CNN, Hillary Clinton has been shot, do you have any comment?

Bart: You’ll probably blame Trump

CNN: The shooter was wearing a “Make America Great Again” hat

Bart: So what, probably a Dem plant

CNN: The shooter left a manifesto on gun rights and his absentee ballot filled out with vote for Trump

Bart: More liberal media lies.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Why does it matter that Omar Mateen’s father was there? Seriously? Has he done something illegal? Last I checked, it was the son, not the dad, that did the shooting. Dude has a Constitutional right to be there and to support whatever candidate he chooses to support. What Trump meant isn’t as important, it’s that he spoke in a way that someone could plausibly interpret his words as condoning assassination. This is the same thing we saw with the Russian emails, the David Duke “disavowal,” etc., etc. He’s running as the Republican nominee for President of the United States, his… Read more »

Benevolus
Benevolus

Everybody says something stupid every now and then, but most of us adults have an internal editor that tells us when we have done that and we can quickly correct it. Trump does not seem to have that editor. He doesn’t understand that we speak differently depending on the context. One can tell tasteless jokes sitting around in a bar with a few friends, but not at the City Council meeting. To Trump, Twitter is the only standard for communication. Maybe this has to do with him always being rich and the boss, so he has always been able to… Read more »

FreeDuck
FreeDuck

“You really think Donald Trump was calling for the assassination of his opponent? ”

What do you think he meant? I mean, if he was talking about protesting wouldn’t he have been addressing the 1st amendment folks and not the 2nd? It’s clear to me that he’s nodding to either assassination of Clinton and/or the hypothetical judge, or he’s winking at the idea of armed insurrection. I don’t see a third interpretation. I’m sure it was all a joke. He’s not very funny.

davidmac
davidmac

Henry II spoke similar words, and Thomas Becket was murdered by the king’s followers.
Netanyahu spoke similar words, and Yitzhak Rabin was assassinated by the Israeli right.

As former CIA director Hayden said yesterday, as a leader, you’re not just responsible for what you say, but also for what people hear.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/10/opinion/trumps-ambiguous-wink-wink-to-second-amendment-people.html

augusta52
augusta52

So Georgia Tech’s athletic director is gone after just 3 years? Off to greener pastures in Indiana? Wonder what sort of contract he had here….I swear one of the best jobs is to be a coach, get fired and then paid several years not to work (coach)..hard to find that in the real world!