Bill to Confiscate Assault Weapons Is Expected for the 2017 Georgia Legislative Session

Rep. Mary Margaret Oliver at a press conference in support of her proposed ban on assault weapons.  Photo: Jon Richards
Rep. Mary Margaret Oliver at a press conference in support of her proposed ban on assault weapons. Photo: Jon Richards
The killing of 49 people at the Pulse nightclub in Orlando has revived the discussion over the use of assault weapons, and whether restrictions on the purchase or possession of certain types of guns should become law in order to reduce the number of gun related killings.

Thursday evening, State Rep. Mary Margaret Oliver announced in a Facebook post that she plans to re-introduce legislation that would make certain guns illegal in Georgia, and require their confiscation.

I am hopeful, and will continue to press for a rational discussion on ways to curb the 33,000 deaths per year from gun violence. The Courts are addressing and enforcing assault weapon bans in other states, and the debate will continue, and I want Georgia to be part of the discussion. I INTEND TO FILE AGAIN, FOR THE 2017 SESSION OF THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY, A BILL TO BAN ASSAULT TYPE WEAPONS, and whether you support or not the proposal, I hope you will join me in asking for an open, rational and bipartisan debate on gun violence deaths and how to reduce senseless killing. Thank you for your interest.

During the 2016 session, Rep, Oliver held a press conference to announce support for her bill. House Speaker David Ralston quickly announced that the bill would not be considered by the House.

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gcp
gcp

It was a bad bill this year and it will be a bad bill in 2017. It goes further than the 2015 democrat bill in congress which at least has a “grandfather provision.” Oliver’s 2016 bill has no such provision.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Sigh…

Davo65
Davo65

What Australia Did To Prevent Mass Shootings, And How The U.S. Could Learn
http://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2016/06/16/australia-gun-lessons

“‘If more guns made us safer, the U.S. would be the safest nation in the world.’ You are not; you are 10 to 15 times more likely to be shot dead in the USA per capita than Australia.”

blakeage80
blakeage80

That statement shows a misunderstanding of one of the purposes of owning firearms. Firearms don’t make us safe. They allow us to protect ourselves in an already unsafe situation.

Davo65
Davo65

Didn’t read the article, did you?

blakeage80
blakeage80

Yes. I did. It didn’t help your pull quote’s case any.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Yeah, because the armed security at Pulse really kept that shooting from escalating. Could you imagine if some untrained yokel had his gun, too?

If you frequently find yourself in situations where you feel that you need a gun in order to feel “safe,” you should really reevaluate some of your life choices.

blakeage80
blakeage80

Again, its not about feeling safe. It’s about providing for your own protection. Why don’t you think that is an inalienable right?

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

It’s not an inalienable right, though. The fact we require licenses, concealed carry permits, and destructive device permits (for you would be bazooka owners) clearly establishes that we have alienated, to some small extent, our “inalienable” right to possess a firearm. If you think your “protection” necessitates an AR-15, armor piercing bullets, and high capacity magazines I’m either 1) really concerned about where you live or 2) really concerned you’re having those fever dreams about UN super agents again. I don’t want to take away people’s guns. I don’t really even care if you think you need an AR-15 to… Read more »

blakeage80
blakeage80

“Why shouldn’t we require a would-be gun owner to take similar testing?” Because possessing firearms is protected by the constitution. Driving, as my father often reminded me, is a privilege. Apples and Oranges.

Rights should be protected instead of constantly attacked. It is an unreasonable leap of logic to say that since a radical Muslim shot a bunch of people that I should have restrictions placed on my right.

Noway2016
Noway2016

+1000!
“Rights should be protected instead of constantly attacked. It is an unreasonable leap of logic to say that since a radical Muslim shot a bunch of people that I should have restrictions placed on my right.”
You ‘da man!

GeorgiaHack
GeorgiaHack

So Blake, does this mean that I can count on you to voice your opinion against voter ID, and other such laws that work to infringe on peoples’ right to vote??

blakeage80
blakeage80

How does knowing who you are infringe on your right to vote? I have to prove who I am to buy a firearm and a thousand other transactions.

PM
PM

Georgia requires a license for concealed weapons, no license is required for long guns, bows, etc. Define what you think constitutes reasonable “similar testing”. Some of us resist proposals such as yours because there is so little detail and allows subjectivity for those of us to seriously consider changing the State’s Constitution or the O.C.G.A. You are aware that South Carolina does require training prior to granting a concealed weapons permit – the statistics reviewed 3 sessions ago showed the accidental shootings and intentional shootings to be close to States that do not require testing by a State licensed trainer?… Read more »

LynnG
LynnG

People driving while texting is a much more dangerous situation. Yet taking guns is a democrat goal.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Just damn, Drew. Sometimes you don’t choose your situations. I posted this on PP years ago but here’s a recap. I lived on a dead end street as a child. The street dead ended in our drive way. OK. One night, circa 1988, a car comes screaming down out driveway at 2am. Goes off the driveway and into the back yard, get mired up in wet grass. My dad 66 years old with 90% occlusions in his heart arteries, (he’s passed away three months later..) grabs his gun, throws on a robe goes into the backyard where the car is… Read more »

Dave Bearse
Dave Bearse

Because a nearly 30 year old anecdote is the authority enough…..

Noway2016
Noway2016

30 years or 40, it was an actual event. Just curious, how would you have handled that same situation, Dave?

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

One of the major hurdles to passing meaningful gun control legislation on a state and federal level is the fact that legions of people think Democrats want to take their guns away. It’s dumb, stupid, unrealistic bills like this one that feed that narrative.

Man, what I wouldn’t give for this state to have one Democrat capable of walking and chewing gum at the same time.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Well, no snark, Drew, but in this one instance, this Dem DOES want to take our guns away…Please have more lawmaking morons like her keep speaking; we’ll have guns for the next thousand years! I can see the NRA fund raising off of this dips**t for the next year!

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Which is my point, N. POTUS has to fight an uphill battle because of dumb stuff like this feeding the NRA’s narrative.

blakeage80
blakeage80

Welcome to our (conservative’s) world.

Noway2016
Noway2016

Fun for your Friday…

Noway2016
Noway2016

Sorry…wrong section. Enjoy anyway…

PM
PM

Jon’s report states in the 2nd paragraph the bill would require “confiscation” of “assault weapons”. Any insight how the State of Georgia would go about “confiscating” weapons that are yet to be defined as “assault weapons”? I’m trying to picture if the conversation includes the State going to court to get some sort of writ to enter a business, home, car, property to confiscate “assault weapons”.

gcp
gcp

She defines “assault weapon” in the bill (HB731). Presumably the “confiscation” would come via arrest and/or search warrant. Her bill does give a grace period where gun owners could modify their weapons or turn them into GBI (see sections 16-11-116 16-11-117).

http://www.legis.ga.gov/Legislation/20152016/154275.pdf

PM
PM

WOW!!! The ammunition I use for hog, elk, deer, etc. hunting in my bolt action rifle falls into that bill.

State had better begin expanding the prison system for a new class of felon formally known as law abiding citizens.

Ellynn
Ellynn

At the risk of getting hunted down and lectured into submission, why are some ‘reasonable’ items not expectable for the gun lobby? Example, flagging (not stopping) people on watch lists – like people awaiting trial for violent crimes or who have restraining orders out, or FBI person of interest/known associate tags? Why can’t we mandate tracer elements in ammo (like the auto industry does for paint)? Flag the purchase of large quantities of ammo (like they do with large amounts of fertilizer). Even basic funding for research. Some of Johns Hopkins’ privately funded research (a small percentage mind you) has… Read more »

Will Durant
Will Durant

Even many reasonable constraints to the 2nd bring out the slippery slope arguments. Any legislation starting with confiscation in the argument is a complete non-starter.

gcp
gcp

Her bill only deals with possession, not background checks but yes we do need to broaden and change the firearm purchase process. One obvious change is to eliminate the FBI three day “default proceed” policy. The problem (as always) is that while increased background checks may stop or slow a few criminals most will still obtain a firearm.

Ellynn
Ellynn

I’m not agreeing with Rep. Oliver. What you need to ask is how she got to that point (besides the snarky answers of being a tree hugging rose colored glasses, bleeding heart liberal). People tend to over react and over reach in a gut reaction when absolutely nothing is allowed to occur. It’s human nature. You want to slow down the far reaching right/left for suggesting extremely stupid and crazy measures to any bill, then the opposing far reaching right/left needs to stop shutting down every thing that any reasonable and sane person would agree to. Your not going to… Read more »

gcp
gcp

Extreme bills don’t accomplish anything positive. I actually agree with Pope on his point that this bill just feeds the narrative that Dems want to take their guns away.

bethebalance
bethebalance

i think the whole “slippery slope” arguments are bogus. a law doesn’t have to be created as a slope. same-sex marriage does not slide to inter-species marriage. you build the backstops into the law. and the whole 2nd Amendment is inviolable argument is just simpleton talk. as if the 2nd amendment- or any amendment- is free of ambiguities and impervious to modern interpretation. thus, my thought has always been that the militia clause oft he 2nd amendment must somehow be meaningful- it can not be mere surplusage. therefore, weapons could easily be considered subject to either the first clause of… Read more »

Noway2016
Noway2016

The.grabbers/sieze-ers/restrict-ers/will.never.stop….Ever. Thank God the NRA has the juice to politically obliterate any pol who tries.

bethebalance
bethebalance

yes, some things should be restricted. so radical? that is the nature of human cohabitation on this planet.

augusta52
augusta52

Heck, somewhere around 33,000 a year die in Georgia’s abortion mills. Maybe 1 million or so nationwide. at last check, the 1 million or so there is far above the 33,000 gun deaths per year in this country, yet which gets the most attention from the liberals?

Davo65
Davo65

Another discussion of Gun rights/ Gun control going into the weeds. The thing that will eventually cause this to shift is the rights inability to compromise. Demographics, values, and strongly held beliefs shift over time, but todays ‘conservatives’ know only how to turn hard right. This won’t last-it just remains to be seen how long it will take. It’s starting to change a little already after this last incident…so the cracks are showing.

LynnG
LynnG

What better way for democrats to fund their goals then gun control. Following the history of the prohibition of alcohol and the war on drugs they realize its a rich money making bonanza to have gun control. The black market that would be created will funnel checks to them in off shore accounts. Those arrested and thrown in prison for owning guns are the very people they hate the most. Democrats have wet dreams about gun control, using the deaths of 50 people in Orlando is exciting to them. As you can see they are exploiting the situation. But look… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

I mean, if we’re all gonna put our tinfoil hats on, I’d point out that gun manufacturers do brisker business following mass shootings when they can spin the dual narratives of “the world ain’t safe y’all!” and “Obummer is gonna take ur gunz”

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

A host on the NPR politics podcast made a poignant point yesterday that I’m going to paraphrase: Today is the one year anniversary of the shootings at Mother Emmanuel, where African-Americans were killed because of the color of their skin. Black churches have long been “safe spaces” for American blacks, places where Civil Rights movement was organized and grew, and places where folks don’t have to worry that their son will be shot for wearing a hoodie or their husband will be killed for selling loose cigarettes. Orlando took place in a gay bar and the people there were targeted… Read more »

LynnG
LynnG

Andrew: Did you happen to read todays WSJ “Why Does the IRS need Guns?” by Tom Coburn
While the democrats have been buying record amount of AK-47 guns and bullets for government departments, then they turn around and want to take guns from people who want to protect their families.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Wow, Sen. Coburn has been huffing paint in retirement, eh?

By the way the folks getting the guns aren’t Democrats or Republicans (well they are, but per the Hatch Act they can’t talk about it at work, whatever, you get my point) they’re federal agents who presumably need them in their role as law enforcement officers. I mean if Coburn wants to make it sound like some eeeeevil gubmint conspiracy, I guess that’s his right.

augusta52
augusta52

“We still have groups of people who don’t feel safe in this country.”

Indeed…in places like Chicago (almost 3,000 shootings last year), the southwest side of Atlanta (where daily shootings are almost routine), south DeKalb, the south side of Augusta, the north side of Charlotte, west Philadelphia, the east and south sides of Richmond, Hartford, St. Louis…but because the culprits in those crimes do not fit the liberal bogeyman stereotype–like a Klan supporter or ISIS—well, they don’t get the stinging rebukes from the holier than thou liberals on Capitol Hill, like the Chuck Schumers, Chris Murphys and company.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

The shootings you mentioned don’t merit the same national coverage because they don’t involve mass casualties and they take place somewhere unexpected. Someone just killed 50 people and wounded 50+ more at a night club. That is wildly different from a SW Atlanta shooting. By the way, I want to know what kind of news you watch where there is no coverage of shootings in SW Atlanta. Also, no one is saying that we shouldn’t care about violence in Chicago, Atlanta, or anywhere else. It’s entirely possible to work towards solving both problems and there are folks out there trying… Read more »

augusta52
augusta52

“Decades of cyclical poverty and institutionalized racism that are underpinning of violence in America inner cities.” So no personal responsibility, eh? Crime is all society’s fault? Like “the devil made me do it?” Maybe Tom Sowell had a point when he said that crime causes poverty, and not the other way around……..and I never said there is no coverage of shootings in SW Atlanta. anymore than there is no coverage in the crime-ridden areas south of Augusta’s 15th Street, but it seems like so much of the focus of the Al Sharptons of the world are relatively few bad apples… Read more »

Saltycracker
Saltycracker

I’d like to add to Clinton’s position that those being looked at by the FBI should not get a gun permit, nor be allowed to run for an elected office, especially POTUS.

ScottNAtlanta
ScottNAtlanta

There are different ways I would do this. I would ban the sale and importation into the state of all weapons whose sole purpose is to inflict mass casualties such as anything like ar-15’s (I am not an expert on assault rifles, but I’m sure some of you know enough you could help better define that). I would also ban any clips that hold more than 5 rounds. I would not confiscate anything. That just feeds the crazy. Instead, I would require anyone owning one of the banned weapons to register it by law, and to also report any that… Read more »

Saltycracker
Saltycracker

What else than an assault weapon could slow a mob of looters in a store after a curfue and when the police aren’t up for it ?

ScottNAtlanta
ScottNAtlanta

My guess is you’d end up in jail for using it since you’d never be able to prove they were all looting, and other than that, if thats the best you got…you dont have much, huh.
Oh, and when was that last riot in Atlanta that involved looting?

Saltycracker
Saltycracker

Riot ? More likely, Looters in store after curfue/closing: smash and grab
Groups destroying stores after hours or during curfews: Google that one.

I wouldn’t include the Walmart and store instances like the one last year in Macon as a time for an assault gun as customers were present they needed armed guards or good insurance.

Only takes the rare occasion to get a point across, good or bad.

ScottNAtlanta
ScottNAtlanta

At least you didnt say it was to protect yourself from the government…thats a plus for you

Saltycracker
Saltycracker

First choice is the government to protect me and my property after a major weather event too, but that is not always the situation.