Morning Reads for Friday, January 15, 2016

On this day in Georgia history: Martin Luther King Jr. was born in 1929.

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Teri
Teri

W/R/T the Gallup link, it would be interesting to see how many nascent voters decide not to affiliate with any party at all, from the get-go. It’s not uncommon for voters, especially the whippersnappers, to say things like, “Well, I wouldn’t say I’m a Democrat, but I certainly have no problem with men marrying each other,” or, “Hoo boy, I’m not a Republican – but maybe there’s something to the concept of taking a hard look at Medicaid spending?”

(Please note that these are off-the-cuff, one-cup-of-coffee, sleep-deprived examples and there are certainly better ones out there.)

gcp
gcp

Only saw part of the debate but here is summary: First off, too many goofy questions such as birther issue and Trumpets wealth. Very disappointing. Trumpet. Below average, wasted time on birther issue, still nothing on spending or health care and he brags about a Carl Icahn endorsement? Cruz. Disappointing overall, unable to answer campaign loan question but has interesting tax plan Carson. Irrelevant Jebby. Not bad overall, good response on tariff issue and other issues but not enough to move him up in the polls. Rubio (aka the kid). Good overall performance. Good comments on guns, tariffs though may… Read more »

Saltycracker
Saltycracker

Still want to believe it is a Cruz/Rubio race.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Cruz’ tax plan is only “interesting” because he too afraid to admit to Republican primary voters that he copped it from the Europeans. That’s why he was running away from Marco’s allegation that its a “VAT tax” (I’m guessing Rubio also says ATM machine?) despite the fact that his tax plan does call for a VAT. I think he’s doing himself a disservice by obfuscating the issue. I also think expecting the US to institute any kind of flat tax is as optimistic as Bernie Sanders expecting the US to institute single-payer healthcare.

gcp
gcp

Cruz calls it a 16% “business tax” while others call it a “VAT.” The intent is to lessen and simplify taxes paid by business.

Saltycracker
Saltycracker

The archbishops of the Anglican Church have voted to discipline the Episcopal Church in the U.S. for blessing gay marriages. Sanctions are in place and the report is on all media.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/01/15/us-episcopal-church-punished-by-global-body-for-accepting-gay-marriage.html

Saltycracker
Saltycracker

And before folks pile on, explain why marriage is a controversial government definition for a group for special benefits when the government is about individual freedoms? Why do people need to join this group to get a better deal from their government ?
Grandfather the benefits and get back to individuals.

Calypso
Calypso

I do not understand your question(s).

Saltycracker
Saltycracker

Glad you are back. There is no end to the various lifestyles that want in on the “marriage” benefits, tax classifications, SS, afforded by government. Let folks do what they want in their life or religious belief, file clear contracts on their relationships at the county courthouse and let the government treat them as individuals.
Government has no business defining “marriage”. Grandfather in what we have so as not to screw over long term planning and begin treating folks as individuals.

Calypso
Calypso

Thanks for the sentiment, Salty. I think I see where you’re coming from, though I’m not in 100% agreement. I see two completely different institutions being conflated by some folks, purposefully, or not. There’s a legal marriage, and then there is (or more properly ‘can be’) a religious ceremony known commonly as a wedding. The marriage is nothing more than a legally binding contract between two individuals. I can enter into a legally binding contract to buy a house from another man (I am a man), but until last year I couldn’t enter into a legally binding contract to marry… Read more »

Saltycracker
Saltycracker

C – between two individuals ? Why two ? Do you hate fundamentalist Mormons or some Muslim sects ? 🙂
The govt gets into those calling them illegal.

Calypso
Calypso

I’m not sure where this reply will show up. I refer to the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment. Until the SC ruling last year, two same sex individuals didn’t have the same protection under the law to marry as two heterosexual people did. As there is no law that allows polygamous marriages of either opposite or same sex folks, there is no ‘equal protection’ for your Mormon or Muslim friends to invoke.

xdog
xdog

Japan honors Hank Aaron with the Order of the Rising Sun, Gold Rays with Rosette for his efforts with Sadaharu Oh to bring young people together through the World Children Baseball’s Fair, and hell, for being Hank Aaron.

I did not know that Rep. David Scott was Aaron’s b/i/l.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/1492d5a1940844869e0e2da38e80a084/japan-honors-hank-aaron-order-rising-sun

Bart
Bart

Good debates last night, both included mostly questions about substance with a few WWE type questions to keep the audience involved. Carly unfortunately was dropped to the junior table but still had another solid performance. In the main event, Trump had his best debate to date. The rest are a bunch of pit yorkies yipping at his heels hoping to gain any sort of traction. None did.

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

I thought Carly’s comment on the Clinton’s marriage was a low blow. Granted, I happen to believe that someone else’s marriage is none of my business.

Also, she fails to recognize that her problem isn’t getting fired from HP. Her problem is the fact that no other company has saw fit to hire her as a CEO since HP.

Bart
Bart

Agreed in most cases about other marriages. But in this case, it is absolutely appropriate to discuss since the husband is an ex president who was impeached and has a long history of not being exactly faithful to his wife. And the wife overlooks the many discretions as no other wife would unless that wife has personal goals that necessitate her being married to the scumbag. Carly has openly discussed her tenure at HP and subsequent activities including being invited to be a board member for multiple organizations, running for senate and performing consulting duties. If she wanted to pursue… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

I mean, if it’s fair game, then I guess it’s fair game to point out that Carly’s husband was still married when they started “dating.” I think the GOP is making a mistake going down the “Bill Clinton is a womanizer and adulterer” road again. It was a huge strategic misfire back in the 90s and I’m not convinced that the passage of 18 years is going to make it magically relevant. I guess they could try and hammer the “Bill Clinton is a sexual abuser and Hillary Clinton supports rape culture” narrative. FBN straight up asked Ben Carson if… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

My thoughts on last night’s debate: Trump I think this was Trump’s best debate and he has gotten better and better as a candidate since the start. He still has no substance, but he has been so successful at making this entire primary about personality and sound bites that he has eliminated the need for substance. I could sense the crowd falling asleep during the moments the debate got wonky over taxes and tariffs. I think Trump has tapped into the fact that most primary voters can be swayed by swagger and one-liners. As a result, I don’t think his… Read more »

auh2o
auh2o

Gotta wonder how much campaign debt Jeb bought from Graham for his endorsement?

Calypso
Calypso

$127.54 worth of campaign debt. The value of Graham’s endorsement.

Sally Forth
Sally Forth

Ginny, ‘you been taking speech lessons from BahBah WahWah? 🙂

ScottNAtlanta
ScottNAtlanta

On the debate… Christie was for Justice Sotomayor before he was against her Supported Planned Parenthood before he was against Was for gun control before he was against (you get the picture). Does he not realize that this is all public record…some actually on video??? I’ve never been happier that anyone has become more irrelevant than Ben Carson…and he drove that point home. Trump, was…well Trump Everything Rubio said sounded canned. His shrillness and fear mongering really diminishes his appeal as the “happy warrior” Kasich was closest to some common sense, but the base has no interest in common sense.… Read more »

Andrew C. Pope
Andrew C. Pope

Marco Rubio says he’s the candidate for tomorrow. Marco Rubio’s vision of tomorrow sounds terrifying.

And Scott, there was no deficit talk because none of them want to mention that Obama has reduced deficits. Again, not that deficit matters… but they try to stray away from things they can’t villainize POTUS for.