January 15, 2016 7:06 AM HomeMorning ReadsMorning Reads for Friday, January 15, 2016 Morning Reads for Friday, January 15, 2016 By Ginny Morning Reads 23 Comments On this day in Georgia history: Martin Luther King Jr. was born in 1929. What’s missing here? A Georgia county. Any Georgia county. 11 bills to watch. Elaine Lucas at it again. Unhappy voters are leaving the established parties, in droves. r-e-s-p-e-c-t. Honestly, what are they teaching kids these days? Trouble in paradise? Lost in translation. Literally. Wuv. Twuuuue Wuv. RIP Alan Rickman. Share this:TwitterFacebookTumblrRedditEmailPrint Related About Author Ginny 23 Comments Teri W/R/T the Gallup link, it would be interesting to see how many nascent voters decide not to affiliate with any party at all, from the get-go. It’s not uncommon for voters, especially the whippersnappers, to say things like, “Well, I wouldn’t say I’m a Democrat, but I certainly have no problem with men marrying each other,” or, “Hoo boy, I’m not a Republican – but maybe there’s something to the concept of taking a hard look at Medicaid spending?” (Please note that these are off-the-cuff, one-cup-of-coffee, sleep-deprived examples and there are certainly better ones out there.) January 15, 2016 8:01 AM Log in to Reply gcp Only saw part of the debate but here is summary: First off, too many goofy questions such as birther issue and Trumpets wealth. Very disappointing. Trumpet. Below average, wasted time on birther issue, still nothing on spending or health care and he brags about a Carl Icahn endorsement? Cruz. Disappointing overall, unable to answer campaign loan question but has interesting tax plan Carson. Irrelevant Jebby. Not bad overall, good response on tariff issue and other issues but not enough to move him up in the polls. Rubio (aka the kid). Good overall performance. Good comments on guns, tariffs though may be too aggressive on foreign policy. Kasich. Not his usual obnoxious self but no one cares about him at this point Christie. Good performance overall . Reminded viewers about social security reform and good explanations of his record as governor but bad policy on marijuana. Now, back to Ga. politics. January 15, 2016 8:08 AM Log in to Reply Saltycracker Still want to believe it is a Cruz/Rubio race. January 15, 2016 9:51 AM Log in to Reply Andrew C. Pope Cruz’ tax plan is only “interesting” because he too afraid to admit to Republican primary voters that he copped it from the Europeans. That’s why he was running away from Marco’s allegation that its a “VAT tax” (I’m guessing Rubio also says ATM machine?) despite the fact that his tax plan does call for a VAT. I think he’s doing himself a disservice by obfuscating the issue. I also think expecting the US to institute any kind of flat tax is as optimistic as Bernie Sanders expecting the US to institute single-payer healthcare. January 15, 2016 11:04 AM Log in to Reply gcp Cruz calls it a 16% “business tax” while others call it a “VAT.” The intent is to lessen and simplify taxes paid by business. January 16, 2016 9:25 AM Log in to Reply Saltycracker The archbishops of the Anglican Church have voted to discipline the Episcopal Church in the U.S. for blessing gay marriages. Sanctions are in place and the report is on all media. http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/01/15/us-episcopal-church-punished-by-global-body-for-accepting-gay-marriage.html January 15, 2016 8:55 AM Log in to Reply Saltycracker And before folks pile on, explain why marriage is a controversial government definition for a group for special benefits when the government is about individual freedoms? Why do people need to join this group to get a better deal from their government ? Grandfather the benefits and get back to individuals. January 15, 2016 9:22 AM Log in to Reply Calypso I do not understand your question(s). January 15, 2016 10:40 AM Log in to Reply Saltycracker Glad you are back. There is no end to the various lifestyles that want in on the “marriage” benefits, tax classifications, SS, afforded by government. Let folks do what they want in their life or religious belief, file clear contracts on their relationships at the county courthouse and let the government treat them as individuals. Government has no business defining “marriage”. Grandfather in what we have so as not to screw over long term planning and begin treating folks as individuals. January 15, 2016 3:09 PM Log in to Reply Calypso Thanks for the sentiment, Salty. I think I see where you’re coming from, though I’m not in 100% agreement. I see two completely different institutions being conflated by some folks, purposefully, or not. There’s a legal marriage, and then there is (or more properly ‘can be’) a religious ceremony known commonly as a wedding. The marriage is nothing more than a legally binding contract between two individuals. I can enter into a legally binding contract to buy a house from another man (I am a man), but until last year I couldn’t enter into a legally binding contract to marry (legal contract) another man (my wife wouldn’t like that, though). This contract is necessary to protect the rights (property, legal standing, estate considerations, and, yes, tax status) of the two individuals in said marriage. The religious wedding ceremony is something the government stays out of and is left entirely up to the religious entity in question. January 15, 2016 3:23 PM Saltycracker C – between two individuals ? Why two ? Do you hate fundamentalist Mormons or some Muslim sects ? 🙂 The govt gets into those calling them illegal. January 15, 2016 5:48 PM Calypso I’m not sure where this reply will show up. I refer to the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment. Until the SC ruling last year, two same sex individuals didn’t have the same protection under the law to marry as two heterosexual people did. As there is no law that allows polygamous marriages of either opposite or same sex folks, there is no ‘equal protection’ for your Mormon or Muslim friends to invoke. January 15, 2016 6:14 PM xdog Japan honors Hank Aaron with the Order of the Rising Sun, Gold Rays with Rosette for his efforts with Sadaharu Oh to bring young people together through the World Children Baseball’s Fair, and hell, for being Hank Aaron. I did not know that Rep. David Scott was Aaron’s b/i/l. http://bigstory.ap.org/article/1492d5a1940844869e0e2da38e80a084/japan-honors-hank-aaron-order-rising-sun January 15, 2016 9:10 AM Log in to Reply Three Jack Good debates last night, both included mostly questions about substance with a few WWE type questions to keep the audience involved. Carly unfortunately was dropped to the junior table but still had another solid performance. In the main event, Trump had his best debate to date. The rest are a bunch of pit yorkies yipping at his heels hoping to gain any sort of traction. None did. January 15, 2016 9:38 AM Log in to Reply Andrew C. Pope I thought Carly’s comment on the Clinton’s marriage was a low blow. Granted, I happen to believe that someone else’s marriage is none of my business. Also, she fails to recognize that her problem isn’t getting fired from HP. Her problem is the fact that no other company has saw fit to hire her as a CEO since HP. January 15, 2016 10:57 AM Log in to Reply Three Jack Agreed in most cases about other marriages. But in this case, it is absolutely appropriate to discuss since the husband is an ex president who was impeached and has a long history of not being exactly faithful to his wife. And the wife overlooks the many discretions as no other wife would unless that wife has personal goals that necessitate her being married to the scumbag. Carly has openly discussed her tenure at HP and subsequent activities including being invited to be a board member for multiple organizations, running for senate and performing consulting duties. If she wanted to pursue a C level position, I’m certain she wouldn’t have any problem landing a high paying job. January 15, 2016 12:17 PM Log in to Reply Andrew C. Pope I mean, if it’s fair game, then I guess it’s fair game to point out that Carly’s husband was still married when they started “dating.” I think the GOP is making a mistake going down the “Bill Clinton is a womanizer and adulterer” road again. It was a huge strategic misfire back in the 90s and I’m not convinced that the passage of 18 years is going to make it magically relevant. I guess they could try and hammer the “Bill Clinton is a sexual abuser and Hillary Clinton supports rape culture” narrative. FBN straight up asked Ben Carson if Hillary Clinton was an enabler of sexual abuse last night, so it looks like that’s the argument the GOP is going to try and sell to people. That kind of red meat may work in the primary, but it will probably alienate a lot of people in the general election. Especially if the GOP nominee is a guy that was accused of rape by his ex-wife and defended himself by saying “durr, you can’t rape your own wife.” I also don’t think the “family values” party should be browbeating a woman who decided to stay married despite her husband’s infidelity being unveiled in very public and humiliating fashion. Plenty of women stay married to unfaithful husbands. Plenty of women stay married to abusive husbands. But if it plays into the “she’s a power-hungry opportunist” storyline, roll with it. Just don’t expect it to work with moderates and with women. January 15, 2016 12:32 PM Log in to Reply Andrew C. Pope My thoughts on last night’s debate: Trump I think this was Trump’s best debate and he has gotten better and better as a candidate since the start. He still has no substance, but he has been so successful at making this entire primary about personality and sound bites that he has eliminated the need for substance. I could sense the crowd falling asleep during the moments the debate got wonky over taxes and tariffs. I think Trump has tapped into the fact that most primary voters can be swayed by swagger and one-liners. As a result, I don’t think his bungling of the tariff question hurt all that much. Even if he backtracked from calling for a 35% tariff by saying he wanted to tax Chinese imports at 35%. He absolutely crushed Cruz’ comment about “New York values.” Cruz Was his response to the birther question really, “if you applied an even CRAZIER citizenship theory, Donald Trump couldn’t run!”? Was his response to the Goldman Sachs question really, “I made a paperwork error”? I’m never going to give Ted Cruz high marks because he looks like a weasel and I know that, deep down, he’s way too smart to actually believe the crap he peddles to people. He’s a huckster and his “I’m one of you!” thing rings a little hollow from the son of a doctor who went to Princeton and Harvard Law, clerked for the Supreme Court, worked at a high-powered law firm, and married a Goldman Sachs exec. This dude is as blue blood, East Coast elitist as it gets. Also, if there are no conservatives in Manhattan, why is he regularly in New York City begging people for campaign donations? I 100% believe that Donald Trump is a better nominee for the Republicans than Ted Cruz. Jeb!!! I thought this was one of Jeb!’s better debates. Unfortunately for Jeb!, I can’t seem to find a single person who wants him as the nominee. He was the first guy in the race, he’s spent the most money on ads, and he’s got the second best name ID (behind Trump, of course)… how is it that he STILL can’t find anyone that wants to vote for him? It’s kind of sad, because he seems like an ok guy, but geez dude, get the hint already. I did enjoy this quote, however: “The idea that we’re somehow better today than the day Obama was inaugurated is an alternate universe” Are we in an alternate universe or are you in some alternate universe where your brother didn’t preside over the utter collapse of the global economy? Kasich When he speaks, I start to fall asleep. When I start to fall asleep, he looks more and more like Gary Shandling. Then I remember how funny Gary Shandling was. “If Bernie Sanders is the nominee, we’re going to win every state.” Not if you’re the one running against him, Governor. Rubio Not a strong performance from Marco. He spent the first half of the debate beating the dead horse that is Benghazi. Maybe Michael Bay hired him to plug his new movie? He spent the second part of the debate flubbing his Planned Parenthood attack line, flubbing his attack on Ted Cruz’s tax plan, and explaining basic concepts of government with a coked-out intensity. For example, he obviously doesn’t understand how tariffs work: “China doesn’t pay the tariff, the American consumer pays the tariff.” So, with a tariff, Marco, China pays the tariff when the goods come into the country. That cost gets passed on to the American consumer, but that’s kind of the whole point. We have a tariff to make sure American-made goods are competitive in price with Chinese-made goods. He also seemed to not remember that the US, like all countries, issues these little things called “visas.” (Granted, he generally has trouble with Visas, and Mastercards, et. al.). “If we do not know who you are, and we do not know why you are coming, you are not getting into the U.S.” Thank you, for explaining what a visa is in an unnecessarily angry manner. Takes real bravery to boldly scream about something is country already does. Christie So, the President hates America and acts like a “petulant child.” Hmm, where was that rhetoric when he was helping you out with federal funds after Sandy? I get it, there’s a difference between governing and campaigning. Sometimes you gotta say stupid stuff to get elected. But dude, come on. I don’t think I ever saw this level of personal animus and vitriol towards George W. Bush from the leading Democratic candidates in ’08. There were policy disagreements, but I don’t recall Joe Biden or Chris Dodd saying that President Bush was a “petulant child.” I don’t remember W. or McCain saying that Bill Clinton hates America when they were running in ’02. This wasn’t just Christie last night, it was the whole stage and it was really disappointing. Carson At one point Ben Carson talked about drones and dirty bombs as if they were new things. He also tried to assert that the President didn’t know that drones are key to modern warfare. I’m pretty sure President Obama knows all about drones and the role they play. But hey, good job staying awake, Dr. Carson. Rand Paul Never thought I’d say this, but I missed Rand Paul last night. His voice would have been nice to have when the field spent the first 30 minutes calling for war on Iran. Or during the 30 minutes the field spent failing to articulate a realistic strategy against ISIS. Gov. Christie keeps calling for no fly zones, does that mean he is willing to shoot down Russian fighter jets? Gov. Christie also seems to think that diplomacy is a bad thing. Sen. Rubio openly advocated for torturing people. Sen. Cruz still wants to carpet bomb people, I guess he’s fine with high rates of civilian casualties? Dr. Carson wants to allow the military to bomb anything with a terrorist inside, I guess he was ok with our recent bombing of an MSF hospital? Sen. Paul’s absence gave all six candidates the ability say increasingly stupid things about foreign policy and national security without being called out for it. Between these six and Sec. Clinton, I feel pretty confident in the fact we’re going to be involved in another war really, really soon. January 15, 2016 10:52 AM Log in to Reply auh2o Gotta wonder how much campaign debt Jeb bought from Graham for his endorsement? January 15, 2016 11:51 AM Log in to Reply Calypso $127.54 worth of campaign debt. The value of Graham’s endorsement. January 15, 2016 1:35 PM Log in to Reply Sally Forth Ginny, ‘you been taking speech lessons from BahBah WahWah? 🙂 January 15, 2016 4:50 PM Log in to Reply ScottNAtlanta On the debate… Christie was for Justice Sotomayor before he was against her Supported Planned Parenthood before he was against Was for gun control before he was against (you get the picture). Does he not realize that this is all public record…some actually on video??? I’ve never been happier that anyone has become more irrelevant than Ben Carson…and he drove that point home. Trump, was…well Trump Everything Rubio said sounded canned. His shrillness and fear mongering really diminishes his appeal as the “happy warrior” Kasich was closest to some common sense, but the base has no interest in common sense. He gets bonus points for not being baited on the Sanders question. Notice no talk about the deficit…thats because every one of their tax plans blow it up massively (not that the deficit matters…I’ve always said that) January 16, 2016 1:09 PM Log in to Reply Andrew C. Pope Marco Rubio says he’s the candidate for tomorrow. Marco Rubio’s vision of tomorrow sounds terrifying. And Scott, there was no deficit talk because none of them want to mention that Obama has reduced deficits. Again, not that deficit matters… but they try to stray away from things they can’t villainize POTUS for. 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