March 9, 2017 12:04 PM
David Scott: “We Got Smoke and Mirrors” with Trump/GOP/RyanCare
Speaking to WABE on Wednesday, Georgia Congressman David Scott lambasted “The World’s Greatest Healthcare Plan of 2017” (yes, that’s it actual name), saying a bi-partisan committee needs to formed to create a new bill.
“We got smoke and mirrors here”, Scott said adding that Obamacare is not perfect either.
“This bill has to be removed from consideration,” Scott said.
Weve got to find a way here to find Democrats and Republicans to come together.”
Scott said his top priority to change with the new bill is medical liability insurance reform.
WABE’s website has a full 17-minute interview which I have not listened to yet but I’m curious to hear more of what Scott has to say.
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I have a feeling I’m going to be repeating myself quite a bit over the next few weeks.
This is a reconciliation bill. The first in a three part process. David Scott wants medical liability insurance reform and that is to be commended, but David Scott also knows that is an issue that cannot be addressed in this particular reconciliation bill. Reconciliation has a very narrow definition of what can and cannot be considered under the reconciliation order. It will most certainly be addressed in the third step of the process which is a 60 vote threshold bill that will take place after this reconciliation bill and after Dr. Price resends many of the burdensome regulations through the administrative process.
It’s a process people. Anything worth doing is worth doing right. And this cannot be done right with a single bill.
No it cannot. It can be a boondoggle of a mess with one bill or an orderly process to repeal and replace.
Even so, if they want it to be in three parts, let’s see all the parts. What we have here, according to you, is part one with a promise of parts two and three. Hence the smoke and mirrors.
Well, it’s certainly better than saying we need to pass the bill to see what’s in it. You don’t eat an elephant all at once. You do it bit by bit. This is the very first bite of the trunk. It will take some time to get to the rear end.
That’s why this repeal isn’t a hard stop of all programs and subsidies over night. They are phased out to give insurers and providers time to adapt to the new plan. Pushing things off the cliff is so 201 1. You need a new crappy talking point by the way.
Soon. I don’t work for Way and Means or Energy and Commerce, but once they are done marking it up then those figures will be made available. Get you panties out of a wad. Again, at least I didn’t say let’s pass the bill to see what’s in it. You should be happy that this is a process that takes time so everything will get to see the light of day.
I also understand that you will never be happy with anything a republican comes up with so I frankly take all of your comments with a grain of salt.
Who has said there won’t be a CBO score? It will be out early next week. It takes time for them to run the numbers. No one has ever said there will be a floor vote before a CBO score.
Again, cry me a river on republicans working on what they promised to do for the past four election cycles.
If I’m summarizing correctly (and I know you will correct me if I’m wrong), it’s a reconciliation bill. If they start adding stuff to part 1 that’s not tax base (like screwing me over even more then I am for being almost 50 with a pre-existing condition), the bill can’t clear the majority 50 votes needed to remove the mandate penalty (Part 2 or 3 will have the 30% cost increase if you go 60 days without coverage that will not make law markers look like bad guys right?), give out a tax credit to families (single people getting left out in the cold AGAIN) up to the $100,000 income bracket (which is a lot of people and will still not cover the cost) as compared to just giving a much smaller tax subitsity to poor people (which there are less of then people under the $100,000 income bracket) to buy insurance, while allowing insurance companies to charge sick old poor people more then young sick poor people. Ryan can lose 3 GOP senators and still get that tax part cleared in part 1.
All the other really good stuff, like Scott’s medical liability, will be covered in a different part, which has to have the 60 votes in the senate, and as Ryan explained over my lunch, will need democrats help. Making sure tax credits that have no exchange for income lost to the treasury (a mainstay to any pre 2017 bill) are the priority at the moment. Lowering the debit apparently is no longer in vogue…
So what am I missing in Part 1?
I forgot the part were private insurance companies don’t have to cover abortion costs in a plan (even if medically required to save a women’s life) and funding of Medicaid costs for anything to Plan Parenthood. Private OBGYN’s that do abortions and take Medicaid or have high risk military clients can still collect Federal funds that are allowed under the Hyde amendment.
It has nothing to do with clearing 50 votes as far as reconciliation goes. It has everything to do with what the House parliamentarian says can be in the bill. If you put too many non tax related things into the bill it will not be allowed to go through the reconciliation process. Meaning you need 60 votes and not 51.
I don’t have time to address your snark at the moment. Maybe later.
It’s a 51 senate vote that just repeals because it can only have tax related changes to stuff that already exists. All the real replace had to be in a separate bill. The part 2 and 3 of the formula.
Instead of having a real reform and replace bill, which the GOP knows it can’t control the tax related issues since it needs the help of senate dems on a 60 person vote, it really is a smoke and mirrors 3 part political tap dance with the senate rules.
This bill repeals and replaces portions of the the ACA that deals with taxes. It does not just repeal. That is not true. You can call it whatever you want and continue to gripe, but this has to be repealed and replaced in a way that gives insurers and providers a transition time. This is the best way to do that.
Okay so we repeal and replace. I’ll take your word for it.
However you forgot the end of your last sentence. “This is the best way to do that ‘for Republicans, insurance companies and anyone who is not poor'”. Your welcome.
Wrong bill. “World’s Greatest Healthcare Plan of 2017” is Sessions’s bill, not the overall GOP’s. Sadly, because it’s a lot funnier the other way.